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  • Re: Saka Maurya Dynasty: 324-232 BC

    From Sai Alhuwalia@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 12:31:38 2022
    coinage of mauryas and nandas were same and had elephants sun bull and magadha symbol
    didnt had land,water,mountain
    where do u find these in schthians/other places
    their weight was same as that of persian and greek coins due to influence of archmedia
    (in the origin of punched coins in india) in present day gandhara region.

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  • From Sai Alhuwalia@21:1/5 to Sai Alhuwalia on Sun Nov 20 13:08:25 2022
    On Sunday, 20 November 2022 at 14:31:40 UTC-6, Sai Alhuwalia wrote:
    coinage of mauryas and nandas were same and had elephants sun bull and magadha symbol
    didnt had land,water,mountain
    where do u find these in schthians/other places
    their weight was same as that of persian and greek coins due to influence of archmedia
    (in the origin of punched coins in india) in present day gandhara region.
    traditions of rig veda were caried forward by brahmins/rishis
    and it's the vedas that have mention of 3 upper catse..many historians think it was added on later but there's no concrete proof of the same
    the earliest rig vedic written manuscript was found in CE not BCE(before christ/common era)
    BRAHMINS WERE CUSTODIAN OF VEDIC CILIZATION AND CARIIED IN MEMORIES FOR CENTURIES UNTIL IT WAS WRITTEN DOWN MUCH MUCH MUCH LATER!!!
    even tho later on it got relegated to minor gods
    SANSKRIT IS AS OLD AS VEDIC PEOPLE ..IT WASN'T SPOKEN DURING BHUDDIST PERIOD..IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO CRUDE AND ANCIENT INDO EUROPEAN LAGUAGES.
    AND SANSKRIT MENTIONED IN RIG VEDA WAS VERY AND IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM PRESEENT DAY SPOKEN SANSKRIT..
    LANGUAGE WOULD PROBABLY PALI

    2)CHANDRA GUPTA MIGHT HAVE BEEN PUNJABI BUT SURE AS HELL WAS NOT SAKA..
    HE PEOBABLY WAS SAKYA ..ANCIENT SUB HIMALYAN EASTERN COMMUNITTY/TRIBE..THIS IS SOMETHING MENTIONED IN BHUDDIST TEXTS AS WELL
    MOURYA CLAN IS PRESENT AMONG RAJPUTS AS WELL.
    MAURYAS HAD INCREDIBLE PERSIAN AND GREEK INFLUENCE DUE TO TRADING..THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY WERE PERSIAN
    SO IF ARCHTITECHTURE RESEMBLED SOME PERSIAN INFLUENCE..THEN IT'S NO WONDER
    the Buddhist custom says that the Chandragupta was an individual from the Maurya Kashtriya group of Pippi Halivana. The custom in this manner suggests that the Moriya faction was connected to the Sakya clan to which Gautma Buddha had a place. This infers
    that the Mauryas in some sense, were Kshatriyas. The Maurya title of the Chandragupta's family is said to have been obtained from the Moriya clan.

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  • From Sai Alhuwalia@21:1/5 to Sai Alhuwalia on Sun Nov 20 13:31:30 2022
    On Sunday, 20 November 2022 at 15:08:27 UTC-6, Sai Alhuwalia wrote:
    On Sunday, 20 November 2022 at 14:31:40 UTC-6, Sai Alhuwalia wrote:
    coinage of mauryas and nandas were same and had elephants sun bull and magadha symbol
    didnt had land,water,mountain
    where do u find these in schthians/other places
    their weight was same as that of persian and greek coins due to influence of archmedia
    (in the origin of punched coins in india) in present day gandhara region.
    traditions of rig veda were caried forward by brahmins/rishis
    and it's the vedas that have mention of 3 upper catse..many historians think it was added on later but there's no concrete proof of the same
    the earliest rig vedic written manuscript was found in CE not BCE(before christ/common era)
    BRAHMINS WERE CUSTODIAN OF VEDIC CILIZATION AND CARIIED IN MEMORIES FOR CENTURIES UNTIL IT WAS WRITTEN DOWN MUCH MUCH MUCH LATER!!!
    even tho later on it got relegated to minor gods
    SANSKRIT IS AS OLD AS VEDIC PEOPLE ..IT WASN'T SPOKEN DURING BHUDDIST PERIOD..IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO CRUDE AND ANCIENT INDO EUROPEAN LAGUAGES.
    AND SANSKRIT MENTIONED IN RIG VEDA WAS VERY AND IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM PRESEENT DAY SPOKEN SANSKRIT..
    LANGUAGE WOULD PROBABLY PALI

    2)CHANDRA GUPTA MIGHT HAVE BEEN PUNJABI BUT SURE AS HELL WAS NOT SAKA..
    HE PEOBABLY WAS SAKYA ..ANCIENT SUB HIMALYAN EASTERN COMMUNITTY/TRIBE..THIS IS SOMETHING MENTIONED IN BHUDDIST TEXTS AS WELL
    MOURYA CLAN IS PRESENT AMONG RAJPUTS AS WELL.
    MAURYAS HAD INCREDIBLE PERSIAN AND GREEK INFLUENCE DUE TO TRADING..THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY WERE PERSIAN
    SO IF ARCHTITECHTURE RESEMBLED SOME PERSIAN INFLUENCE..THEN IT'S NO WONDER the Buddhist custom says that the Chandragupta was an individual from the Maurya Kashtriya group of Pippi Halivana. The custom in this manner suggests that the Moriya faction was connected to the Sakya clan to which Gautma Buddha had a place. This
    infers that the Mauryas in some sense, were Kshatriyas. The Maurya title of the Chandragupta's family is said to have been obtained from the Moriya clan.

    ALSO THE SAME AUTHOR (GUPTA GUY) WHICH SAYS CHANDRA GUPTA WAS FROM PUNJAB..SAYS THAT HE WAS A KHATRI LOLLLL

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  • From Sai Alhuwalia@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 16:38:35 2022
    CHANDRAGUPTA MAURYA WAS ALREADY IN TAXILA WHEN ALEXANDER INVADED..CHUTAD
    HE DIDN'T CONSOLIDATE POWER BY THEN..
    ONLY AFTER IS THAT HE DEFEATED NANDAS AND GREEK STOOGES LEFT IN INDIA
    ALSO GREEK CONTEMPORARY SOURCES TELLS THAT CHANDRAGUPTA DIDN'T LEAVE BRAHMANICAL WAYS OF LIFE
    IF HE WAS A JAAT..THEN WHY DID GREEKS WROTE THAT HE WAS STILL LIVING ACCORDING TO BRAHMANICAL WAYS OF LIFE

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  • From Sai Alhuwalia@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 16:29:17 2022
    Avestan terms for soldiers ("rathaestar") and citizens ("vastriyo")
    are similar to Vedic-derived terms (kshatriyas, vasihyas) but the Avestan
    term for priest ("athravan") is not even close to "Brahmanas"

    SO HOW DOES rathe-star RHYME with SHAT-RIYA
    and athar-van not with brah-man
    UNDERSTAND 'man and van' both rhyme
    we usually see (middle to last letters) for to check the rhyming scheme..
    i didn't even to do research to know the blatant lies ..anyone with a knowledge of rhyming scheme would know instantly


    and vaishyas was for traders..(not for normal people...)
    like u have said..the whole upper 3 caste is mentioned in RIG VEDA

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  • From Sai Alhuwalia@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 20 16:47:59 2022
    PURANS CAME MUCH LATER..AND NONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ARYANS BEING BAD PEOPLE..MAYBE PUNJABIS..BUT AT THAT TIME
    THERE WAS NO HISTORIAN TO TELL THEM THAT VEDIC HOARDES LIVED IN PUNJAB..
    THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE WAS SOME SORT CLAS GOIN BETWEEN BRAHMIN IN GANGA AND VEDIC HOARDES..
    CONSIDER IT AS EVOLUTION OF RELEGION/DHARMA..

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  • From Sai Alhuwalia@21:1/5 to Sai Alhuwalia on Sun Nov 20 16:51:38 2022
    On Sunday, 20 November 2022 at 18:48:01 UTC-6, Sai Alhuwalia wrote:
    PURANS CAME MUCH LATER..AND NONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ARYANS BEING BAD PEOPLE..MAYBE PUNJABIS..BUT AT THAT TIME
    THERE WAS NO HISTORIAN TO TELL THEM THAT VEDIC HOARDES LIVED IN PUNJAB..
    THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE WAS SOME SORT CLAS GOIN BETWEEN BRAHMIN IN GANGA AND VEDIC HOARDES..
    CONSIDER IT AS EVOLUTION OF RELEGION/DHARMA..

    since both events coming of non-vedic dieties and vedic dieties are centuries apart..none would have know their forefathers were in fact vedic hoardes who came from north before relegating their gods to minor gods.
    so u see there wasn't a clash but an evolution in their relegion/dharma

    regards

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