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  • Jimmy Carter Turns 100

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 1 22:04:11 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    Former US President Jimmy Carter is 100 years old, and still with us,
    albeit in hospice care.

    He was one of the first to use the term “apartheid” to describe Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, back in a book he published in 2006.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Tue Oct 1 22:34:12 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    In article <vdhrkr$2t1fi$10@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Former US President Jimmy Carter is 100 years old, and still with us,
    albeit in hospice care.

    A truly motherless, 'tarded piece of shit, whose surrender to
    Iran's Islamo-Nazi regime paved the way for where the Middle
    East is today. Fuck him and his diaper.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Tue Oct 1 23:18:46 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 22:34:12 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <vdhrkr$2t1fi$10@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Former US President Jimmy Carter is 100 years old, and still with us,
    albeit in hospice care.

    [ad-hominem rhubarb]

    Typical of right-wingers, isn’t it, to resort all too readily to attacks
    on the character of those who express different viewpoints from them. They can’t respond with facts, because the facts tend not to be on their side.

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  • From Tall Henry@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Tue Oct 1 23:26:00 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    In article <vdhrkr$2t1fi$10@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Former US President Jimmy Carter is 100 years old, and still with us,
    albeit in hospice care.

    He was one of the first to use the term "apartheid" to describe Israel’s >treatment of Palestinians, back in a book he published in 2006.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/dec/20/20061220-092736-3365r/ Carter's Arab financiers
    To understand what feeds former president Jimmy Carter's anti-Israeli
    frenzy, look at his early links to Arab business. [...]

    https://www.nydailynews.com/2008/04/26/to-see-jimmy-carters-true-allegiances-just-follow-the-money/
    To see Jimmy Carter's true allegiances, just follow the money

    etc. etc. etc.

    Naughty little whore, that Jimmy Carter fellow.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 1 23:28:03 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    In article <vdi00m$2tvef$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    [flush]

    Typical of genocide-ignoring wokes, isn't it, to resort all too readily
    to attacks on the character of those who express different viewpoints
    from them. They can't respond with facts, because the facts tend not
    to be on their side.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Wed Oct 2 04:15:23 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 23:28:03 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 23:18:46 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 22:34:12 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <vdhrkr$2t1fi$10@dont-email.me>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Former US President Jimmy Carter is 100 years old, and still with us,
    albeit in hospice care.

    He was one of the first to use the term “apartheid” to describe
    Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, back in a book he published in
    2006.

    [ad-hominem rhubarb]

    Typical of right-wingers, isn’t it, to resort all too readily to
    attacks on the character of those who express different viewpoints from
    them. They can’t respond with facts, because the facts tend not to be
    on their side.

    [more ad-hominem rhubarb]

    You’re just proving my point. And trying to deflect from Carter’s use of the term “apartheid” to describe how Israel operates. Does that term upset you? Too bad. It’s a fact.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Wed Oct 2 08:42:51 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    In article <vdihcq$33q8c$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    You're just proving my point. And trying to deflect from Carter's use of
    the term "apartheid" to describe how Israel operates.

    Pointing out that Carter is a whore for Arab money is not "deflection".
    I posted two important articles discussing this. There are many others.
    As usual, you just deleted everything which proves you to be lying.

    Does that term upset you? Too bad. It's a fact.

    No, it's not, not even remotely.

    You're a pathetic, boring little liar.

    And you keep ignoring the millions of Muslims murdered by
    other Muslims, since obviously you don't give a shit about
    dead Muslims -- unless they died in wars which their genocidal
    leaders started against Israel.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Thu Oct 3 04:29:22 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:42:51 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    Pointing out that Carter is a whore for Arab money is not "deflection".

    What exactly have you got against Arab money? That seems like a somewhat anti-Semitic attitude to take. Are you some kind of White Christian supremacist?

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Thu Oct 3 09:17:01 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    In article <vdl6j2$3jscd$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Pointing out that Carter is a whore for Arab money is not "deflection".

    What exactly have you got against Arab money?

    "Arab" as in "anti-Israeli".

    I guess that, as a true liberal, you have no problem with
    Saudi-Arabia, right? Their racism, discrimination of women,
    etc.? Neither did Carter himself, I guess?

    Consult the articles I linked to, for starters.

    Or ask the ancient bastard himself. He looks pretty sharp here.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13913975/Jimmy-Carter-wheeled-watch-military-flyover-Georgia-celebrates-100th-birthday-friends-family.html

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Thu Oct 3 21:40:17 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 09:17:01 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <vdl6j2$3jscd$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Pointing out that Carter is a whore for Arab money is not
    "deflection".

    What exactly have you got against Arab money?

    "Arab" as in "anti-Israeli".

    There are Arab nations that have signed peace treaties with Israel. Don’t they count?

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Thu Oct 3 22:18:16 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    In article <vdn301$3ssv4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    There are Arab nations that have signed peace treaties with
    Israel. Don't they count?

    It's not a question of who "counts".

    The question is why an alleged supporter of human rights
    like Carter took money from Saudi-Arabia, a country notorious
    for its racism and human rights violations.

    You REALLY don't see a problem here?

    "Recent disclosures of Carter's extensive financial connections to Arab oil money, particularly from
    Saudi Arabia, had deeply shaken my belief in his integrity. When I was first told that he received a
    monetary reward in the name of Shiekh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan, and kept the money, even after
    Harvard returned money from the same source because of its anti-Semitic history, I simply did not
    believe it. How could a man of such apparent integrity enrich himself with dirty money from so dirty a
    source?"

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Thu Oct 3 22:41:33 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:18:16 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <vdn301$3ssv4$1@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    There are Arab nations that have signed peace treaties with Israel.
    Don't they count?

    It's not a question of who "counts".

    That’s one way to avoid the question, isn’t it? You didn’t say “he took money from countries which haven’t signed peace treaties with Israel”, you said “he took money from Arab countries”. Trying to tar them all with the same brush, just on the basis of their ethnicity rather than on, say,
    their human-rights records?

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 3 23:06:35 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    In article <vdn6it$3ssv4$21@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    [...]

    It's not a question of who "counts".

    The question is why an alleged supporter of human rights
    like Carter took money from Saudi-Arabia, a country notorious
    for its racism and human rights violations.

    You REALLY don't see a problem here?

    "Recent disclosures of Carter's extensive financial connections to Arab oil money, particularly from
    Saudi Arabia, had deeply shaken my belief in his integrity. When I was first told that he received a
    monetary reward in the name of Shiekh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan, and kept the money, even after
    Harvard returned money from the same source because of its anti-Semitic history, I simply did not
    believe it. How could a man of such apparent integrity enrich himself with dirty money from so dirty a
    source?"

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 3 23:31:03 2024
    XPost: alt.politics, nz.politics

    On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 22:41:33 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    That’s one way to avoid the question, isn’t it? You didn’t say “he took
    money from countries which haven’t signed peace treaties with Israel”, you
    said “he took money from Arab countries”. Trying to tar them all with the
    same brush, just on the basis of their ethnicity rather than on, say,
    their human-rights records?

    The question is why an alleged supporter of human rights ...

    You didn’t mention “human rights” to begin with though, did you? You
    went straight for “whore for Arab money”. Trying to backpedal and
    deflect the discussion to “human rights” at this late stage is a bit
    rich, and not really credible, given that you have already betrayed
    your true colours.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 3 23:47:35 2024
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    In article <vdn9fn$3tr4f$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    [...]

    The question is why an alleged supporter of human rights
    like Carter took money from Saudi-Arabia, a country notorious
    for its racism and human rights violations.

    You REALLY don't see a problem here?

    "Recent disclosures of Carter's extensive financial connections to Arab oil money,
    particularly from Saudi Arabia, had deeply shaken my belief in his integrity. When
    I was first told that he received a monetary reward in the name of Shiekh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan, and kept the money, even after Harvard returned money from
    the same source because of its anti-Semitic history, I simply did not believe it.
    How could a man of such apparent integrity enrich himself with dirty money from so dirty a source?"

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