This is it: the Gaza war is on again.So soon you deliberately forget that Gaza started this particular episode with guess what? An unprovoked attacke. Ring any bells?
All that mealy-mouthed talk of a “ceasefire” and (later reneged) “Phase >2”
and all the rest of it was just a way for Israel to buy time and regain
its breath for launching another wave of atrocities.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
This is it: the Gaza war is on again.
So soon you deliberately forget that Gaza started this particular episode with
guess what? An unprovoked attacke. Ring any bells?
...
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
This is it: the Gaza war is on again.So soon you deliberately forget that Gaza started this particular episode with
All that mealy-mouthed talk of a ???ceasefire??? and (later reneged) ???Phase
2???
and all the rest of it was just a way for Israel to buy time and regain
its breath for launching another wave of atrocities.
guess what? An unprovoked attacke. Ring any bells?
In article <vrag6d$1a32f$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
[LOL]
Lawrence D'Oliveiro, 1944: "The USSR Launches Unprovoked Attack
On Germany".
Gaza was not occupied. Israel withdrew about 20 years ago.
These nithings fully embrace evil and Judenhass!
If you really want to draw parallels with World War II, here's another
one: the French Resistance against German occupation.
Further, I'm not aware of the French Resistance butchering civilians, as
the Hamas did.
Israel just happens to be stuck amidst people who like to kill other
people.
Gaza was not occupied. Israel withdrew about 20 years ago.
And Gaza never left Israel alone.
Further, I'm not aware of the French Resistance butchering civilians, as
the Hamas did.
Did you know some of those Israeli victims were deliberately killed by
their own side?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Israel just happens to be stuck amidst people who like to kill other
people.
They themselves chose to go there.
Irrelevant.
And funnily enough, they seem to like killing other people even more
than anybody else around them.
But that's just a horribly stupid lie. Or maybe your brain goes
blank when encountering large numbers.
In article <vrcpm7$3ci2h$2@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Did you know some of those Israeli victims were deliberately killed by
their own side?
"some"?
"deliberately"?
Every death of civilians in a war zone is 100% the responsibility of the party which started the war.
In article <vrcps1$3ci2h$3@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
And Gaza never left Israel alone.
Where were they to go?
Who gives a fuck? And why fucking go anywhere?
Israel had them completely boxed in.
Why didn't Egypt let them in?
Same people, same origin, same religion. Why don't the Egyptians want
them?
Want to take a wild guess?
And Gaza never left Israel alone.
Where were they to go?
Israel had them completely boxed in.
Why didn't Egypt let them in?
Funny, in Europe and America, you have this thing about being reluctant to let foreigners in, even foreigners who look just like the people in the countries that don't want them. To the rest of the world, this seems mystifying and bemusing. Yet you seem to think other countries should have
to do exactly what you don't want to do.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
"some"?
"deliberately"?
As in deliberate policy, a.k.a. the "Hannibal Directive".
Yeah, yeah. That's the "Directive" no one ever saw, right?
So every death in Gaza from now on is 100% the responsibility of
Israel, which started shooting first.
Israel "started shooting first"?
In article <vrcr48$3d8qj$4@dont-email.me>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Why didn't Egypt let them in?
Funny, in Europe and America, you have this thing about being reluctant
to let foreigners in, even foreigners who look just like the people in
the countries that don't want them. To the rest of the world, this
seems mystifying and bemusing. Yet you seem to think other countries
should have to do exactly what you don't want to do.
No ...
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
This is it: the Gaza war is on again.So soon you deliberately forget that Gaza started this particular episode with >guess what? An unprovoked attacke. Ring any bells?
All that mealy-mouthed talk of a “ceasefire? and (later reneged) “Phase >>2?
and all the rest of it was just a way for Israel to buy time and regain
its breath for launching another wave of atrocities.
Report on Hamas' use of human shields in Gaza
Hamas agreed to the ceasefire, but Israel never stopped shooting
and killing.
After starting the war ...
... and while still holding civilian hostages?
“Nazi Germany suggested a ceasefire ...”
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 00:18:44 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:Hamas started the war.
Report on Hamas' use of human shields in Gaza
How come no evidence of such has ever been presented to any
independent authority? Here’s a report to the UN <https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976>:
A. Human Shields and the logic of genocide
...
59. Israel has accused Palestinian armed groups of deliberately
using civilians as human shields in previous aggressions on Gaza
(including in 2008-09, 2012, 2014, 2021 and 2022). It also used it
to justify high civilian casualties and attacks against
paramedics, journalists and others during the 2018–2019 ‘Great
March of Return’. UN independent fact-finding missions and
reputable human rights organizations have consistently challenged
these allegations, sometimes concluding that evidence of human
shields had been fabricated. Nevertheless, Israel has used these
accusations – sometimes then retracted – to justify widespread and
systematic killing of Palestinian civilians in its ongoing
assault.
There are references given to every single one of those claims, so you
can check them for yourself.
Hamas agreed to the ceasefire, but Israel never stopped shooting
and killing.
After starting the war ...
So you want to go back to events before Israel started shooting, to
try to justify it? Can we not also go back to events before October 7,
to try to justify what Hamas did then, or not? Is what is good for the
goose also not good for the gander?
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 00:18:44 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:Hamas started the war.
Report on Hamas' use of human shields in Gaza
How come no evidence of such has ever been presented to any
independent authority? Heres a report to the UN
<https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/03/1147976>:
A. Human Shields and the logic of genocide
...
59. Israel has accused Palestinian armed groups of deliberately
using civilians as human shields in previous aggressions on Gaza
(including in 2008-09, 2012, 2014, 2021 and 2022). It also used it
to justify high civilian casualties and attacks against
paramedics, journalists and others during the 20182019 Great
March of Return. UN independent fact-finding missions and
reputable human rights organizations have consistently challenged
these allegations, sometimes concluding that evidence of human
shields had been fabricated. Nevertheless, Israel has used these
accusations sometimes then retracted to justify widespread and
systematic killing of Palestinian civilians in its ongoing
assault.
There are references given to every single one of those claims, so you
can check them for yourself.
Hamas agreed to the ceasefire, but Israel never stopped shooting
and killing.
After starting the war ...
So you want to go back to events before Israel started shooting, to
try to justify it? Can we not also go back to events before October 7,
to try to justify what Hamas did then, or not? Is what is good for the
goose also not good for the gander?
Israel is perfectly justified in using cesium-137 shells.
Michael
Facts are facts! The Arabs started it!
Hamas started the war.
Do you know why the 1948 Arab-Israeli war took place?
Because, after the UN vote which gave the Jews a small state, the
Arabs rejected it, and launched a war against that state, with the
declared intent of killing all the Jews living in it:
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