• Re: Colorado Will Soon Require a Discretionary Permit To Acquire Semiau

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 15 23:00:30 2025
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    Unconstitutional.

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 15 20:44:10 2025
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    c186282 wrote:
    Unconstitutional.

    https://reason.com/2025/04/15/colorado-will-soon-require-a-discretionary-permit-to-acquire-semiautomatic-rifles/?comments=true#comment-11005095


    The same side enacting these laws are the same side that calls for decarceration and defunding the police.

    The same side enacting these laws are the same side that accuses the
    police of habitually hunting down and gunning down unarmed Black men.

    The same side enacting these laws are the same side that accuses the criminal justice system of being systemically racist.

    "S.B. 3 makes the freedom to acquire a broad class of commonly owned firearms contingent on a local law enforcement official's approval,
    which can be denied if that official deems the applicant dangerous."-
    Jacob Sullum

    Michael

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to Jeanne Douglas on Tue Apr 15 21:14:26 2025
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    Jeanne Douglas wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:30 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Unconstitutional.

    The solution is simple, repeal the Second Amendment. That antiquated
    bullshit is responsible for more innocent deaths than any civilized
    society should be forced to bare. Best solution is to add jews and
    gooks to the list of foreign aliens to be deported by ICE.

    https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-gun-enthusiast-still-claim-their-right-to-bear-arms-is-more-important-than-public-safety/answer/Paul-Harding-14


    All of your Constitutional Rights come at the cost of safety.

    For example, you would be much safer if I could search houses, cars, and
    people whenever I wanted to, for any reason, or no reason at all. I'd
    catch more real bad guys. You know those stories about creeps who keep
    sex slaves locked in their basements for years? I'd find those victims
    and rescue them. That neighbor of yours who might have a meth lab that
    is going to send poisonous fumes into your child's bedroom window, or
    explode and burn down your house? I'd find out for sure whether a lab
    was there.

    How about all those guys who are probably child molesters, and we've got
    some evidence, but it isn't enough to convict in front of a jury,
    especially with that defense attorney throwing doubt all over our
    evidence? Those guys are on the street right now, and a child you love
    may be their next victim.

    Give up your rights under the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments, and I'll
    make the world safer for you. No question about it.

    The only problem is that if you give up all those rights, which are
    really just restrictions on the things I'm allowed to do to you, what's
    going to keep you safe from me?

    Every right you have increases your danger from other people who share
    that right. Free speech? It allows monsters to spread hateful messages, possibly about a group to which you belong, just the same as it allows
    you to petition your government with legitimate grievances.

    That free speech even allows you to argue in favor of discarding freedom
    and liberty as just too dangerous to trust in the hands of ordinary
    people. Now that, my friend, is what scares me - that people with
    opinions like that will spread them to weak-willed individuals who
    haven't really thought through the consequences. I won't argue for
    taking that right away, though, despite the dangers. That would be even
    more scary than you are.

    Yes, some people in a free society are always going to abuse those
    freedoms. Criminals are going to hide behind the 4th amendment to
    conceal the evidence of their crimes. People who commit horrific acts
    are going to hire excellent defense attorneys who can convince a jury
    that doubt exists. And, yes, some people are going to use guns to commit murders.

    Freedom is scary, but lack of freedom is scarier.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Wed Apr 16 01:07:32 2025
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    On 4/15/25 11:44 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    Unconstitutional.

    https://reason.com/2025/04/15/colorado-will-soon-require-a-discretionary-permit-to-acquire-semiautomatic-rifles/?comments=true#comment-11005095



       The same side enacting these laws are the same side that calls for decarceration and defunding the police.

    Yep.

       The same side enacting these laws are the same side that accuses the police of habitually hunting down and gunning down unarmed Black men.

    Yep. Dontchaknow, 'black' men are the FINEST, can
    commit no offenses ........

       The same side enacting these laws are the same side that accuses the criminal justice system of being systemically racist.

    Yep.

       "S.B. 3 makes the freedom to acquire a broad class of commonly owned firearms contingent on a local law enforcement official's approval,
    which can be denied if that official deems the applicant dangerous."-
    Jacob Sullum

    Expect THIS Fed to intervene.

    Problem, 'rights' seem to be contingent on the
    current administration/cabinet. Constitutional
    rights, like the 2nd, need to be bolstered by
    writ, permanent, federal LAW. Reagan didn't do
    it, Bush(s) didn't do it, Trump needs to see
    it DONE.

    SOME commie dinks say Trump is trying to inhibit
    the 1st amendment. This is not true at all. All
    he's saying is that the Taxpayers don't need to
    FUND whatever the most rad are saying.

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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Wed Apr 16 03:13:38 2025
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    On 4/16/25 12:14 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
    Jeanne Douglas wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:30 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Unconstitutional.

    The solution is simple, repeal the Second Amendment. That antiquated
    bullshit is responsible for more innocent deaths than any civilized
    society should be forced to bare. Best solution is to add jews and
    gooks to the list of foreign aliens to be deported by ICE.

    https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-gun-enthusiast-still-claim-their-right-to-bear-arms-is-more-important-than-public-safety/answer/Paul-Harding-14



    All of your Constitutional Rights come at the cost of safety.

    "Rights" almost always come at the expense of "safety" -
    at least "safety" in the most simplicit definition.

    However the GREATER "safety" comes from strong rights
    and citizen power. History clearly shows what happens
    when those are lacking.

    Clue ... it SUCKS ........

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  • From K Bernstein@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 16 09:21:30 2025
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    On 15 Apr 2025, Jeanne Douglas <deshavari@gmail.com> posted some news:fp8uvj5338088k7jn3k4hgcfbkua9bdhsi@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:30 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Unconstitutional.

    The solution is simple, repeal the Second Amendment. That antiquated
    bullshit is responsible for more innocent deaths than any civilized
    society should be forced to bare. Best solution is to add jews and
    gooks to the list of foreign aliens to be deported by ICE.

    The republic would recover much faster if all Democrats were rounded up
    and used for oven testing in Mexico. You could send some jews and gooks
    with the illegals for dinner along the way.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to Jeanne Douglas on Wed Apr 16 05:26:56 2025
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    On 4/15/2025 9:52 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:30 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    Unconstitutional.

    The solution is simple, repeal the Second Amendment.

    The right to keep and bear arms, referenced in the Second Amendment,
    was not created by 2A. It existed before 2A was ratified and would
    continue to exist if 2A was repealed. The main thing repeal of 2A
    would do is eliminate the gun-grabbers' argument that 2A is a group
    right that exists to ensure "a well regulated militia".

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 16 05:41:33 2025
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    c186282 wrote:
    On 4/15/25 11:44 PM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    Unconstitutional.

    https://reason.com/2025/04/15/colorado-will-soon-require-a-discretionary-permit-to-acquire-semiautomatic-rifles/?comments=true#comment-11005095



        The same side enacting these laws are the same side that calls for
    decarceration and defunding the police.

      Yep.

        The same side enacting these laws are the same side that accuses
    the police of habitually hunting down and gunning down unarmed Black men.

      Yep. Dontchaknow, 'black' men are the FINEST, can
      commit no offenses ........

        The same side enacting these laws are the same side that accuses
    the criminal justice system of being systemically racist.

      Yep.

        "S.B. 3 makes the freedom to acquire a broad class of commonly
    owned firearms contingent on a local law enforcement official's
    approval, which can be denied if that official deems the applicant
    dangerous."- Jacob Sullum

      Expect THIS Fed to intervene.

      Problem, 'rights' seem to be contingent on the
      current administration/cabinet. Constitutional
      rights, like the 2nd, need to be bolstered by
      writ, permanent, federal LAW. Reagan didn't do
      it, Bush(s) didn't do it, Trump needs to see
      it DONE.

      SOME commie dinks say Trump is trying to inhibit
      the 1st amendment. This is not true at all. All
      he's saying is that the Taxpayers don't need to
      FUND whatever the most rad are saying.



    One problem is that a huge chunk of the federal judiciary, and many
    state judiciaries, do not treat the Second Amendment as a real right.

    Imagine if the judiciary treated Brown v. Board of Education as a suggestion.


    Michael

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Jeanne Douglas on Wed Apr 16 07:34:26 2025
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    "Jeanne Douglas" <deshavari@gmail.com> wrote in message news:fp8uvj5338088k7jn3k4hgcfbkua9bdhsi@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:30 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Unconstitutional.

    The solution is simple, repeal the Second Amendment. That antiquated
    bullshit is responsible for more innocent deaths than any civilized
    society should be forced to bare. Best solution is to add jews and
    gooks to the list of foreign aliens to be deported by ICE.

    Democrats have hated guns ever since their slaves got hold of them.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to c186282@nnada.net on Wed Apr 16 07:36:16 2025
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    "c186282" <c186282@nnada.net> wrote in message news:g76cndXX6ow9xWL6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    On 4/16/25 12:14 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
    Jeanne Douglas wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:30 -0400, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

    Unconstitutional.

    The solution is simple, repeal the Second Amendment. That antiquated
    bullshit is responsible for more innocent deaths than any civilized
    society should be forced to bare. Best solution is to add jews and
    gooks to the list of foreign aliens to be deported by ICE.

    https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-gun-enthusiast-still-claim-their-right-to-bear-arms-is-more-important-than-public-safety/answer/Paul-Harding-14
    All of your Constitutional Rights come at the cost of safety.

    "Rights" almost always come at the expense of "safety" -
    at least "safety" in the most simplicit definition.

    However the GREATER "safety" comes from strong rights
    and citizen power. History clearly shows what happens
    when those are lacking.

    Clue ... it SUCKS ........

    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
    Benjamin Franklin

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  • From Rudy JB Canoza@21:1/5 to Rudy on Thu Apr 17 00:48:07 2025
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    In <4uMLP.737642$3pn5.291075@fx44.iad> Rudy wrote:

    On 4/15/2025 9:52 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
    On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:30 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    Unconstitutional.

    The solution is simple, repeal the Second Amendment.

    The right to keep and bear arms, referenced in the Second Amendment,
    was not created by 2A. It existed before 2A was ratified and would
    continue to exist if 2A was repealed. The main thing repeal of 2A
    would do is eliminate the gun-grabbers' argument that 2A is a group
    right that exists to ensure "a well regulated militia".

    You can't have one without the other.

    The Republic of the United States of America was born because of
    thinking like yours and the need to eliminate it.

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