• Oh Shit

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 13 01:03:36 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    Israel has launched attacks on Iran.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri Jun 13 04:44:17 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.international, nz.politics

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    Israel has launched attacks on Iran.
    You appear to be surprised. It has been forewarned, predicted and threatened for years (I acknowledge the tautology), the USA knew about it weeks ago (probably longer) and made that publicly obvious this last week.
    There is every chance the NZ government either knew about it or expected it. This awful situation became inevitable the day Iran decided to attack Israel years ago by funding and supporting Hamas and other anti-Israel agencies, countries).
    Concern now is too late. too little and too pathetic for words.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 05:36:37 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    On Fri, 13 Jun 2025 01:03:36 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    Israel has launched attacks on Iran.

    Israel is out of control. Its ostensible aim, of somehow disabling Iran’s nuclear program purely through remote strikes, is unachievable.

    At some point, the heat will crank up too high for Israel to bear. So
    Netanyahu is betting the well-being of his entire country on being able to
    drag the USA into the conflict.

    Trump got elected on a promise of being a “peace” President, who would
    keep the US out of conflicts instead of letting it be dragged into them.
    Will he keep that promise, or will overriding and unflinching support of
    Israel prevail?

    Is it “America First” as he (and his supporters keep saying)? Or is it really “Israel First, America Second”, as his actions seem to be indicating?

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Sat Jun 14 06:03:29 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    In article <102j1p5$eiv$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Israel has launched attacks on Iran.

    Israel is out of control.

    You are SO stupid.

    Iran behind AMIA bombing
    ------------------------
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing

    Threading a Precarious Geopolitical Posture, Iran Seeks to Wreak Havoc in Europe
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    https://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-2025-may-7/

    Iran behind basically every terror organization in the Middle East ------------------------------------------------------------------ https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2021/iran/

    Iran behind attack on Saudi-Arabia oil facilities ------------------------------------------------- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abqaiq%E2%80%93Khurais_attack

    Iran's antisemitism and Holocaust denial ---------------------------------------- https://www.ushmm.org/antisemitism/holocaust-denial-and-distortion/holocaust-denial-antisemitism-iran

    Iran's security service behind a special operation against targets in Sweden ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.rferl.org/a/sweden-blames-iranian-hackers-for-attack-urging-revenge-for-koran-burnings/33131987.html

    Iran, for years, sacrificed numerous Lebanese in pointless wars
    with Israel, by backing and arming Hezbollah ---------------------------------------------------------------
    "During the 2006 Lebanon War, Iranian Revolutionary Guards were believed
    to have directly assisted Hezbollah fighters in their attacks on Israel. Multiple sources suggested that hundreds of Revolutionary Guard operatives participated in the firing of rockets into Israel during the war, and
    secured Hezbollah's long-range missiles."

    Iran's oppression and mass executions
    ------------------------------------- https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/04/iran-executes-853-people-in-eight-year-high-amid-relentless-repression-and-renewed-war-on-drugs/
    https://theconversation.com/despite-un-warnings-irans-execution-of-kurds-and-political-dissidents-continues-unchecked-223138#:~:text=In%20the%20first%2011%20months,prisoners%2C%20including%20four%20on%20Jan.

    Mass rape, torture in Iranian jails
    ----------------------------------- https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20231206-rape-torture-used-to-silence-iran-s-mahsa-amini-protesters-amnesty-says

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Sat Jun 14 07:28:20 2025
    XPost: nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 06:03:29 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <102j1p5$eiv$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    Israel has launched attacks on Iran.

    Israel is out of control.

    You are SO stupid.

    And you are so gullible.

    Do you think maybe Israel is being used as a proxy, to do Trump’s dirty
    work for him?

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