• Re: Israel Is Out of Control: A Terrorist Government That Endangers Int

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Dawn Flood on Sat Jul 26 23:17:33 2025
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    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:39:53 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Oh, please! Almost a century of fighting over mostly worthless land by
    a peoples who were systematically murdered by an evil regime.

    That “evil regime” would have been the British Empire, that issued the Balfour Declaration. That’s where it starts.

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sat Jul 26 17:07:22 2025
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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March 18th.


    That is quite the claim.

    Do you have evidence to back it up?


    Michael

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Dawn Flood on Sat Jul 26 23:16:28 2025
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    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March 18th.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Jul 27 01:54:16 2025
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    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 17:07:22 -0700, Michael Ejercito wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March
    18th.

    Do you have evidence to back it up?

    You would expect somebody with skin in the game to keep up with
    developments, and not require being led by the hand every time, would
    you not?

    From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_2025_Israeli_attacks_on_the_Gaza_Strip>:

    In the early hours of 18 March 2025, Israel launched a surprise
    attack[8] on the Gaza Strip, effectively ending the 2025 Gaza war
    ceasefire. Israel's missile and artillery attack killed more than
    400 Palestinians, including 263 women and children according to
    the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry,[9] making it one of the
    deadliest in the Gaza war.[10]

    ...

    Hamas condemned the strikes as a violation of the ceasefire,
    accusing Israel of endangering the remaining Israeli hostages.[19]
    It began responding militarily to the Israeli strikes on 20 March,
    when it fired rockets at Tel Aviv.[26][5] The Israeli government
    said it carried out the attack in response to Hamas' refusal to
    extend a ceasefire through additional hostage releases. Hamas had
    agreed to the second phase of the original ceasefire agreement,
    under which Israeli hostages would have been released in exchange
    for a permanent end to the Gaza war.[27][14][28]

    Check the references for more.

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  • From hello there@21:1/5 to ldo@nz.invalid on Sun Jul 27 10:19:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    In article <1063nkb$1j2lh$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first,

    Hamas started it on Oct. 7, 2023, you 'tarded little nazoid piglet.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to hello there on Sun Jul 27 06:29:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    hello there wrote:
    In article <1063nkb$1j2lh$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first,

    Hamas started it on Oct. 7, 2023, you 'tarded little nazoid piglet.


    12 May 2004.

    Behold the visage of Cthulhu.

    <https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2262/5147/files/Phos-7.png?v=1698212587>

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sun Jul 27 07:42:25 2025
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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 17:07:22 -0700, Michael Ejercito wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March
    18th.

    Do you have evidence to back it up?

    You would expect somebody with skin in the game to keep up with
    developments, and not require being led by the hand every time, would
    you not?

    From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_2025_Israeli_attacks_on_the_Gaza_Strip>:

    In the early hours of 18 March 2025, Israel launched a surprise
    attack[8] on the Gaza Strip, effectively ending the 2025 Gaza war
    ceasefire. Israel's missile and artillery attack killed more than
    400 Palestinians, including 263 women and children according to
    the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry,[9] making it one of the
    deadliest in the Gaza war.[10]

    ...

    Hamas condemned the strikes as a violation of the ceasefire,
    accusing Israel of endangering the remaining Israeli hostages.[19]
    It began responding militarily to the Israeli strikes on 20 March,
    when it fired rockets at Tel Aviv.[26][5] The Israeli government
    said it carried out the attack in response to Hamas' refusal to
    extend a ceasefire through additional hostage releases. Hamas had
    agreed to the second phase of the original ceasefire agreement,
    under which Israeli hostages would have been released in exchange
    for a permanent end to the Gaza war.[27][14][28]

    Check the references for more.

    March 18, 2025 is AFTER October 7, 2023.


    Michael

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to hello there on Sun Jul 27 22:35:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 10:19:40 +0000 (UTC), hello there wrote:

    In article <1063nkb$1j2lh$2@dont-email.me>,
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March 18th.

    Hamas started it on Oct. 7, 2023 ...

    ... and then they agreed a ceasefire. Which Israel then reneged on.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Sun Jul 27 22:36:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 06:29:03 -0700, chine.bleu wrote:

    12 May 2004.

    Behold the visage of Cthulhu.

    <https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2262/5147/files/Phos-7.png?v=1698212587>

    White phosphorus: a war crime.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Sun Jul 27 22:33:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 07:42:25 -0700, Michael Ejercito wrote:

    March 18, 2025 is AFTER October 7, 2023.

    Did you just figure that out?

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  • From Michael Ejercito@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Sun Jul 27 18:17:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 07:42:25 -0700, Michael Ejercito wrote:

    March 18, 2025 is AFTER October 7, 2023.

    Did you just figure that out?

    Apparently, you did not.


    Michael

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Michael Ejercito on Mon Jul 28 07:13:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 18:17:42 -0700, Michael Ejercito wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 07:42:25 -0700, Michael Ejercito wrote:

    March 18, 2025 is AFTER October 7, 2023.

    Did you just figure that out?

    Apparently, you did not.

    Please explain.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jul 28 08:23:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 03:25:17 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 23:16:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March 18th.

    I guess you forgot about October 7.

    The current round of hostilities started on March 18th.

    You want to go back further? We can go back further.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Wed Jul 30 01:53:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, nz.politics, alt.politics.international

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106bftv$2s99n$11@dont-
    email.me:

    On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 08:23:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 03:25:17 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 23:16:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March 18th.

    I guess you forgot about October 7.

    The current round of hostilities started on March 18th.

    You want to go back further? We can go back further.

    We can go back several thousand years, actually. That's how long the
    Hebrews and Gazans have been fighting each other.

    Per the Bible, Torah etc there will never be peace in that area until
    the end of the world. whatever that means.


    The world should just seal off the
    Middle East and let these countries
    sort out their own differences.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Wed Jul 30 02:38:42 2025
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    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 01:53:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:

    The world should just seal off the Middle East ...

    And do without their oil?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 30 00:15:14 2025
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    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 08:23:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 03:25:17 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 23:16:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March 18th.

    I guess you forgot about October 7.

    The current round of hostilities started on March 18th.

    You want to go back further? We can go back further.

    We can go back several thousand years, actually. That's how long the
    Hebrews and Gazans have been fighting each other.


    Before 1956 then current property owners mostly ignored zionist
    squatters. Jewish terrorism began in 1946. Now only Arab terrorism is bad.

    Negev has been disputed for thousands of years. During that time
    Transjordan and Egypt had a common border.

    The violence will continue until both sides choose other. Israel
    building a ghetto in Gaza is continuing it. I am sad Israel murders
    Christians and destroys churches.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Wed Jul 30 07:19:33 2025
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    On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 00:15:14 -0700, chine.bleu wrote:

    I am sad Israel murders Christians and destroys churches.

    Funny, killing non-Christian Arabs didn’t seem able to muster quite the
    same level of outrage among Westerners ...

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  • From Clave@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Wed Jul 30 10:50:16 2025
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    On 7/29/2025 6:53 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in news:106bftv$2s99n$11@dont- email.me:

    On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 08:23:51 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 03:25:17 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 23:16:28 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>
    On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 14:28:55 -0500, Dawn Flood wrote:

    Hamas & Friends started this conflict ...

    It was Israel that started shooting first, unprovoked, on March 18th. >>>>>
    I guess you forgot about October 7.

    The current round of hostilities started on March 18th.

    You want to go back further? We can go back further.

    We can go back several thousand years, actually. That's how long the
    Hebrews and Gazans have been fighting each other.

    Per the Bible, Torah etc there will never be peace in that area until
    the end of the world. whatever that means.


    The world should just seal off the
    Middle East and let these countries
    sort out their own differences.

    Correct. And that means no U.S. military personnel anywhere east or south of Türkiye (they're a NATO ally, so we might have a few there), all the way to South Korea and the Philippines. And *NO* U.S. aid of any kind – financial, military hardware, etc. — to Israel. Israel is a rich developed country. Let them make or buy whatever they think they need, but if they buy it from us, they're paying full price.

    If one of them annihilates another, we shouldn't care. It doesn't affect our security or any other interests in any way.

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