• sighting of the moon

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 29 22:05:23 2025
    XPost: alt.religion.islam, alt.sufi, alt.islam.sufism
    XPost: alt.culture.saudi, soc.culture.iranian

    I gather from new.google.com that, though it is hard to
    believe, that Saudi Arabia claims to have sighted the
    earliest waxing crescent moon today (March 29, 2025).

    Also Muslims in North America are supposed to follow
    the Saudi sighting. But for any of you in North America,
    have you sighted the moon yet. I think the earliest I
    might be able to sight it will be just after sunset
    March 30 here in St. John’s Newfoundland. But
    in might be visible in Vancouver this evening (March 29)
    and my baseline (similar to Nazareth to Jerusalem
    for Jesus or Medina to Mecca, or is it the other way
    around, for Mohammed) is St. John’s to Vancouver.

    Though I am not Muslim (I have an individual religion,
    and am not recruiting), the earliest waxing crescent is
    important to me as well. It figured in my Silver Bough
    thumb, described on https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/thumbs.html .
    Oh well, I may as well repeat it, and my Koran thumb and
    Koran finger, below:

    The Silver Bough thumb

    Once in spring 1997 I thumbed at random a book on Scottish folklore called
    The Silver Bough Vol. 1 by F. Marian McNeill. It came out to a page with this poem on it:

    Ri faicinn domh na gealaich uir,
    Is duth domh mo shuil a thogail.
    Is duth domh ma ghlun a leagail,
    Is duth domh mo cheann a bhogadh,

    Toir cliu dhuit fein, a re nan iul,
    Gum faca mi thu a rithist,
    Gum faca mi a ghealach ur,
    Ailleagan iuil na slighe.

    Is iomadh neach a chaidh a null
    Eadar uine an da ghealaich,
    Ged tha mise a' mealtainn fuinn,
    A re nan re 's nam beannachd!

    which translates as:

    When I see the new moon,
    It becomes me to lift mine eye,
    It becomes me to bend my knee,
    It becomes me to bow my head.

    Giving thee praise, thou moon of guidance,
    That I have seen thee again,
    That I have seen the new moon,
    The lovely leader of the way.

    Many a one has passed beyond
    In the time between the two moons,
    Though I am still enjoying earth,
    Thou moon of moons and of blessings!

    (I have been told that that is of Christian origin.)

    On that same page I also describe the following, which may be
    of interest:

    Koran thumb

    The third thumb occurred early in 1997, not long after I had posted to alt.islam.sufism about the blue rose vision, but got no response. At Branwen Books, a local pagan-friendly bookstore, I thumbed randomly in an abridged version of the Koran, and it came open at the end of the section entitled Daybreak, which ends with the two lines

    Join the company of My servants,

    and enter into My Garden.

    That was from p. 141 of The Essential Koran -- The Heart of Islam -- An Introductory Selection of Readings from the Qur'an, translated and presented
    by Thomas Cleary, HarperCollins paperback edition 1994, ISBN 0-06-250196-8 (cloth), ISBN 0-06-250198-4 (paberback).

    Koran finger

    Feb. 25, 2004: Last night in my room I grabbed my "The Essential Koran" (an abridged Koran, but I am not Muslim) and flipped to a page at random (completely random, but without thumbing this time, i.e. instead of a thumb
    on the long side I used my right index finger on the top) and read out

    "Yaa Siin

    By the Recital, rich in wisdom,

    you are surely one of the Messengers,

    on a straight path.

    It is a revelation sent down by the Mighty, the Merciful,

    so you may warn a people whose ancestors had not been warned and so they were heedless"

    etc., including

    "Alas for the servants: whenever a Messenger comes to them, they mock him.”

    For more background see my Salmon on the Thorns web page, and
    for recent and ongoing updates see alt.religion.druid .

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "I'm on my way; And I must flag the last train down" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x0jjvslUuY (Bill Bourne - Baggins)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 30 20:18:47 2025
    XPost: alt.religion.islam, alt.sufi, alt.islam.sufism
    XPost: alt.culture.saudi, soc.culture.iranian

    On Mar 29, 2025, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2D98C94B00A7252B70000CAE538F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    I gather from new.google.com that, though it is hard to
    believe, that Saudi Arabia claims to have sighted the
    earliest waxing crescent moon today (March 29, 2025).

    Also Muslims in North America are supposed to follow
    the Saudi sighting. But for any of you in North America,
    have you sighted the moon yet. I think the earliest I
    might be able to sight it will be just after sunset
    March 30 here in St. John’s Newfoundland. But
    in might be visible in Vancouver this evening (March 29)
    and my baseline (similar to Nazareth to Jerusalem
    for Jesus or Medina to Mecca, or is it the other way
    around, for Mohammed) is St. John’s to Vancouver.

    Though I am not Muslim (I have an individual religion,
    and am not recruiting), the earliest waxing crescent is
    important to me as well. It figured in my Silver Bough
    thumb, described on https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/thumbs.html .
    Oh well, I may as well repeat it, and my Koran thumb and
    Koran finger, below:

    The Silver Bough thumb

    Once in spring 1997 I thumbed at random a book on Scottish folklore called The Silver Bough Vol. 1 by F. Marian McNeill. It came out to a page with this poem on it:

    Ri faicinn domh na gealaich uir,
    Is duth domh mo shuil a thogail.
    Is duth domh ma ghlun a leagail,
    Is duth domh mo cheann a bhogadh,

    Toir cliu dhuit fein, a re nan iul,
    Gum faca mi thu a rithist,
    Gum faca mi a ghealach ur,
    Ailleagan iuil na slighe.

    Is iomadh neach a chaidh a null
    Eadar uine an da ghealaich,
    Ged tha mise a' mealtainn fuinn,
    A re nan re 's nam beannachd!

    which translates as:

    When I see the new moon,
    It becomes me to lift mine eye,
    It becomes me to bend my knee,
    It becomes me to bow my head.

    Giving thee praise, thou moon of guidance,
    That I have seen thee again,
    That I have seen the new moon,
    The lovely leader of the way.

    Many a one has passed beyond
    In the time between the two moons,
    Though I am still enjoying earth,
    Thou moon of moons and of blessings!

    (I have been told that that is of Christian origin.)

    On that same page I also describe the following, which may be
    of interest:

    Koran thumb

    The third thumb occurred early in 1997, not long after I had posted to alt.islam.sufism about the blue rose vision, but got no response. At Branwen Books, a local pagan-friendly bookstore, I thumbed randomly in an abridged version of the Koran, and it came open at the end of the section entitled Daybreak, which ends with the two lines

    Join the company of My servants,

    and enter into My Garden.

    That was from p. 141 of The Essential Koran -- The Heart of Islam -- An Introductory Selection of Readings from the Qur'an, translated and presented by Thomas Cleary, HarperCollins paperback edition 1994, ISBN 0-06-250196-8 (cloth), ISBN 0-06-250198-4 (paberback).

    Koran finger

    Feb. 25, 2004: Last night in my room I grabbed my "The Essential Koran" (an abridged Koran, but I am not Muslim) and flipped to a page at random (completely random, but without thumbing this time, i.e. instead of a thumb on the long side I used my right index finger on the top) and read out

    "Yaa Siin

    By the Recital, rich in wisdom,

    you are surely one of the Messengers,

    on a straight path.

    It is a revelation sent down by the Mighty, the Merciful,

    so you may warn a people whose ancestors had not been warned and so they were heedless"

    etc., including

    "Alas for the servants: whenever a Messenger comes to them, they mock him.”

    For more background see my Salmon on the Thorns web page, and
    for recent and ongoing updates see alt.religion.druid .

    I sighted the early waxing crescent for the first time this lunar
    month at 8 p.m. Newfoundland Daylight Time (2230 UTC/GMT)
    March 30, 2025, and said “Thou moon of moons and of blessings!”
    and received a perineum click (short period mula bandha) immediately
    followed by a shakti/kundalini buzz/rush/wave from perineal chakra
    to crown chakra, as closure.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "I'm on my way; And I must flag the last train down" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x0jjvslUuY (Bill Bourne - Baggins)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 31 20:54:43 2025
    XPost: alt.religion.islam, alt.sufi, alt.islam.sufism
    XPost: alt.culture.saudi, soc.culture.iranian

    On Mar 30, 2025, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2D9A01CF00E7B0D570000CAE538F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    On Mar 29, 2025, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2D98C94B00A7252B70000CAE538F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    I gather from new.google.com that, though it is hard to
    believe, that Saudi Arabia claims to have sighted the
    earliest waxing crescent moon today (March 29, 2025).

    Also Muslims in North America are supposed to follow
    the Saudi sighting. But for any of you in North America,
    have you sighted the moon yet. I think the earliest I
    might be able to sight it will be just after sunset
    March 30 here in St. John’s Newfoundland. But
    in might be visible in Vancouver this evening (March 29)
    and my baseline (similar to Nazareth to Jerusalem
    for Jesus or Medina to Mecca, or is it the other way
    around, for Mohammed) is St. John’s to Vancouver.

    Though I am not Muslim (I have an individual religion,
    and am not recruiting), the earliest waxing crescent is
    important to me as well. It figured in my Silver Bough
    thumb, described on https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/thumbs.html .
    Oh well, I may as well repeat it, and my Koran thumb and
    Koran finger, below:

    The Silver Bough thumb

    Once in spring 1997 I thumbed at random a book on Scottish folklore called The Silver Bough Vol. 1 by F. Marian McNeill. It came out to a page with this
    poem on it:

    Ri faicinn domh na gealaich uir,
    Is duth domh mo shuil a thogail.
    Is duth domh ma ghlun a leagail,
    Is duth domh mo cheann a bhogadh,

    Toir cliu dhuit fein, a re nan iul,
    Gum faca mi thu a rithist,
    Gum faca mi a ghealach ur,
    Ailleagan iuil na slighe.

    Is iomadh neach a chaidh a null
    Eadar uine an da ghealaich,
    Ged tha mise a' mealtainn fuinn,
    A re nan re 's nam beannachd!

    which translates as:

    When I see the new moon,
    It becomes me to lift mine eye,
    It becomes me to bend my knee,
    It becomes me to bow my head.

    Giving thee praise, thou moon of guidance,
    That I have seen thee again,
    That I have seen the new moon,
    The lovely leader of the way.

    Many a one has passed beyond
    In the time between the two moons,
    Though I am still enjoying earth,
    Thou moon of moons and of blessings!

    (I have been told that that is of Christian origin.)

    On that same page I also describe the following, which may be
    of interest:

    Koran thumb

    The third thumb occurred early in 1997, not long after I had posted to alt.islam.sufism about the blue rose vision, but got no response. At Branwen
    Books, a local pagan-friendly bookstore, I thumbed randomly in an abridged version of the Koran, and it came open at the end of the section entitled Daybreak, which ends with the two lines

    Join the company of My servants,

    and enter into My Garden.

    That was from p. 141 of The Essential Koran -- The Heart of Islam -- An Introductory Selection of Readings from the Qur'an, translated and presented
    by Thomas Cleary, HarperCollins paperback edition 1994, ISBN 0-06-250196-8 (cloth), ISBN 0-06-250198-4 (paberback).

    Koran finger

    Feb. 25, 2004: Last night in my room I grabbed my "The Essential Koran" (an abridged Koran, but I am not Muslim) and flipped to a page at random (completely random, but without thumbing this time, i.e. instead of a thumb on the long side I used my right index finger on the top) and read out

    "Yaa Siin

    By the Recital, rich in wisdom,

    you are surely one of the Messengers,

    on a straight path.

    It is a revelation sent down by the Mighty, the Merciful,

    so you may warn a people whose ancestors had not been warned and so they were
    heedless"

    etc., including

    "Alas for the servants: whenever a Messenger comes to them, they mock him.”

    For more background see my Salmon on the Thorns web page, and
    for recent and ongoing updates see alt.religion.druid .

    I sighted the early waxing crescent for the first time this lunar
    month at 8 p.m. Newfoundland Daylight Time (2230 UTC/GMT)
    March 30, 2025, and said “Thou moon of moons and of blessings!”
    and received a perineum click (short period mula bandha) immediately
    followed by a shakti/kundalini buzz/rush/wave from perineal chakra
    to crown chakra, as closure.

    I failed again, and will try again beginning at 12:01 a.m. NDT
    (0231 UTC/GMT) April 1, 2025 (April Fool’s Day/Lupus Alert Day)
    and if I am successful some effects should be perceivable
    within a few hours of that. One effect will be improved
    sexual compatibility for most couples (a minority already
    were optimally sexually compatible).

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
    This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
    Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

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