• Jacob "wrestling" with his God or with an angel?

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 4 03:10:35 2025
    XPost: alt.religion.islam, alt.sufi, alt.islam.sufism
    XPost: alt.culture.saudi, soc.culture.iranian

    Am I right in saying that in the Jewish Torah Jacob is said to
    have wrestled with his God whereas in the Christian Old Testament
    it says he wrestled with an angel?

    I believe the reference to Jacob “wrestling” with his God at night
    means he negotiated with his God on behalf of all humans
    in his (large, but not global) region, but over a period of
    18 years, not just one night.

    Now in scripture there is evidence for Jacob working for the
    father of Rachel and Leah for 14 years, but is there any
    evidence for the other 4 years?

    Are there any references to Jacob in the Koran? If so,
    does it mention the wrestling incident, and if so, does
    it say with his God or with an angel?

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    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And now the angry morning; Gives the early signs of warning; You must
    face alone the plans you make; Decisions they will try to break" (S.McL.)

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