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  • -ic/-ich in Serbo-Croat

    From sedalmatia@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 13 23:07:23 2020
    On Thursday, September 24, 1998 at 9:00:00 AM UTC+2, An8tracker wrote:
    Group,

    I have Serbian ancestors who lived in the northern region of Croatia. Their names (in the US) were Radanovic and Savich. My question is how is -ic and -ich pronounced in the Serbo-Croat language. Radanovic is pronounced Ra-dan-o-vick now, but there are lots of people with the Radanovich (pronounced
    -itch) surname in the US. Also, on an early birth certificate i have, Radanovic is spelled Radanovitch.. Savich is pronounced as it looks with the -itch sound by my family, but an early obituary has it mispelled as Savicke while the same birth certificate has it spelled as Savitch, leaving me completley confused about what the original spellings and pronunciations might
    have been in Europe. Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Mark Bugno - Youngstown, Ohio, USA

    Researching the surnames: Serbian: RADANOVIC, SAVICH - Polish: OWCARZ, OSIAL, STOPNICKI (STOPNICK) - German/Yugoslavian: BUGNO - Hungarian: OTT - Slovak: BUS, VASKO, PAVLIK, CHETSKO, BEDNAR, VAJDA, PETRUSKA

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  • From sedalmatia@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 13 23:06:45 2020
    On Thursday, September 24, 1998 at 9:00:00 AM UTC+2, An8tracker wrote:
    Group,

    I have Serbian ancestors who lived in the northern region of Croatia. Their names (in the US) were Radanovic and Savich. My question is how is -ic and -ich pronounced in the Serbo-Croat language. Radanovic is pronounced Ra-dan-o-vick now, but there are lots of people with the Radanovich (pronounced
    -itch) surname in the US. Also, on an early birth certificate i have, Radanovic is spelled Radanovitch.. Savich is pronounced as it looks with the -itch sound by my family, but an early obituary has it mispelled as Savicke while the same birth certificate has it spelled as Savitch, leaving me completley confused about what the original spellings and pronunciations might
    have been in Europe. Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Mark Bugno - Youngstown, Ohio, USA

    Researching the surnames: Serbian: RADANOVIC, SAVICH - Polish: OWCARZ, OSIAL, STOPNICKI (STOPNICK) - German/Yugoslavian: BUGNO - Hungarian: OTT - Slovak: BUS, VASKO, PAVLIK, CHETSKO, BEDNAR, VAJDA, PETRUSKA

    Re the ich on the end of surnames; firstly the h is latinised, added to the ic end of surnames by immigration officers in Latin language based countries. The ev or ov preceding ic is diminutive or small, so by removing the ev or ov and ich from say my
    surname reveals the real surname Alfir, being a standard bearer in Italian. the origin of the evic originates from ancient formal documents where people are always referred to as say, Jure the son of milan as an example, thence shortened to evic.

    Edward ivan Alfirevich.

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  • From Flo Austin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 13 18:20:13 2022
    I have a friend whose last name is Pavlovich. His ancestor added the h to the end so it would be pronounced correctly as did many Serbian and Croatian immigrants.
    He is legally changing his first name and is considering changing his last name to how it originally was: Pavlović. He wonders if he should include the accent over the c or not, as many do, or if he should not remove the h. What is your opinion?

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