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  • Drowning at sea 1840s

    From cecilia@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 8 20:11:36 2022
    Richard Robinson, born 10 Nov 1803 married Henrietta Hudson (born 2
    Aug 1803)

    My great-uncle listed him as having drowned at sea along with his
    sister Isabel's husband W H Terry.

    W. H. Terry's son and grandson were Wlliam Henry Terry, so I suspect
    those were the names of Isabel's husband.

    Looking at censuses for Isabel (born 1795; remarried in 1843 to John Middleton) it seems W. H. Terry fathered children from 1829-1841.

    Is there anywhere that might lead me to more information about the
    drowning of Isabel's first husband and brother - when/where/what
    ship?

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  • From john@21:1/5 to cecilia on Sat Jul 9 10:48:02 2022
    On 08/07/2022 21:11, cecilia wrote:
    Richard Robinson, born 10 Nov 1803 married Henrietta Hudson (born 2
    Aug 1803)

    My great-uncle listed him as having drowned at sea along with his
    sister Isabel's husband W H Terry.

    W. H. Terry's son and grandson were Wlliam Henry Terry, so I suspect
    those were the names of Isabel's husband.

    Looking at censuses for Isabel (born 1795; remarried in 1843 to John Middleton) it seems W. H. Terry fathered children from 1829-1841.

    Is there anywhere that might lead me to more information about the
    drowning of Isabel's first husband and brother - when/where/what
    ship?

    I assume the Middleton-Terry marriage is the one in Whitby Jul-Sep 1843?

    Have you looked at

    Yorkshire County Records Offices

    British Newspaper Archive

    https://www.crewlist.org.uk/about/fishingvessels#Crew

    https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/merchant-navy-ships-records-crew-lists-musters-and-log-books/

    The only similar death at sea (sailing from Grimsby, drowned off Spurn
    Head) I have was in 1879 and I found the information in a newspaper and
    then GRO Marine Death Indices (1846 to 1902) and related records

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  • From Charles Ellson@21:1/5 to cecilia on Sat Jul 9 17:49:37 2022
    On Fri, 08 Jul 2022 20:11:36 +0100, cecilia <myths@ic24.net> wrote:

    Richard Robinson, born 10 Nov 1803 married Henrietta Hudson (born 2
    Aug 1803)

    My great-uncle listed him as having drowned at sea along with his
    sister Isabel's husband W H Terry.

    W. H. Terry's son and grandson were Wlliam Henry Terry, so I suspect
    those were the names of Isabel's husband.

    Looking at censuses for Isabel (born 1795; remarried in 1843 to John >Middleton) it seems W. H. Terry fathered children from 1829-1841.

    Is there anywhere that might lead me to more information about the
    drowning of Isabel's first husband and brother - when/where/what
    ship?

    Local newspaper reports?
    Inscription on headstone on family grave ?
    Have you checked the deaths indexes (if 1837 on) in case it was a
    drowning within coastal waters which was recorded in the usual
    registers?

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 12 08:00:26 2022
    I don't think this is him

    Newcastle Courant - Friday 11 February 1848
    On the 6th inst., aged 78, Anne widow of Mr Richard Robinson, mariner ;

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  • From Chris Pitt Lewis@21:1/5 to cecilia on Sat Jul 16 10:25:18 2022
    On 08/07/2022 20:11, cecilia wrote:
    Richard Robinson, born 10 Nov 1803 married Henrietta Hudson (born 2
    Aug 1803)

    My great-uncle listed him as having drowned at sea along with his
    sister Isabel's husband W H Terry.

    W. H. Terry's son and grandson were Wlliam Henry Terry, so I suspect
    those were the names of Isabel's husband.

    Looking at censuses for Isabel (born 1795; remarried in 1843 to John Middleton) it seems W. H. Terry fathered children from 1829-1841.

    Is there anywhere that might lead me to more information about the
    drowning of Isabel's first husband and brother - when/where/what
    ship?

    Wikipedia contains vast lists of shipwrecks organised by date. Go to the
    page "Lists of Shipwrecks" and scroll down to "lists by date" to find
    links to monthly pages. As you have narrowed the date range to 1840 (the
    last child could be posthumous) to 1843 it would be a possible though
    tedious task to read through and see if anything likely leaps out.
    Generally only names of ships though, not crew.


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    Chris Pitt Lewis

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