• What happened at familysearch in 2012?

    From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 2 09:37:16 2024
    XPost: soc.genealogy

    I'm currently climbing (up and down - following father as far as I
    trust, then stepping back down, and following mother ditto - lather,
    rinse, repeat) my tree, in both my own records and the master tree (or
    whatever they call it) at familysearch. Intent being to see if they can
    give me _pointers_ (I don't blindly accept, but try to check
    independently [and don't accept if I can't]); sometimes they give me
    ideas I haven't thought of, such as a placename in an adjacent county. Secondary intent to share my knowledge.

    I seem to be giving familysearch more information than I'm getting from
    them, but I don't mind that.

    But often, in particular where I'm examining a suggested duplicate to
    see if the suggested person is really the same as the person I'm looking
    at, it shows me when both people were "Added" - presumably to their
    master tree. And it's nearly always 2012 - often 1 or 2 May 2012.

    Was there some sort of mass glom - of people - at/by them that year?
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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  • From john1@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Sat Mar 2 16:01:21 2024
    On 02/03/2024 10:37, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    I'm currently climbing (up and down - following father as far as I
    trust, then stepping back down, and following mother ditto - lather,
    rinse, repeat) my tree, in both my own records and the master tree (or whatever they call it) at familysearch. Intent being to see if they can
    give me _pointers_ (I don't blindly accept, but try to check
    independently [and don't accept if I can't]); sometimes they give me
    ideas I haven't thought of, such as a placename in an adjacent county. Secondary intent to share my knowledge.

    I seem to be giving familysearch more information than I'm getting from
    them, but I don't mind that.

    But often, in particular where I'm examining a suggested duplicate to
    see if the suggested person is really the same as the person I'm looking
    at, it shows me when both people were "Added" - presumably to their
    master tree. And it's nearly always 2012 - often 1 or 2 May 2012.

    Was there some sort of mass glom - of people - at/by them that year?

    I suspect it might be related to the merging of the LDS/IGI databases
    and database restructuring in 2011/12
    see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/where-is-the-igi-on-the-new-site

    You could ask FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org/en/fieldops/europe-contact-us

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr on Sat Mar 2 21:05:43 2024
    In message <urvf1c$1u6pj$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 2 Mar 2024 16:01:21,
    john1 <john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr> writes
    On 02/03/2024 10:37, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    []
    Was there some sort of mass glom - of people - at/by them that year?

    I suspect it might be related to the merging of the LDS/IGI databases
    and database restructuring in 2011/12
    see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FamilySearch

    Sounds very plausible. There are - judging from my researches alone - an
    awful lot of people in their system who are duplicates of other people,
    just waiting for researchers to decide whether they are or not.
    Hopefully, AI will in time reduce that number.

    https://www.familysearch.org/en/blog/where-is-the-igi-on-the-new-site

    You could ask FamilySearch >https://www.familysearch.org/en/fieldops/europe-contact-us

    Useful page, thanks. I'm so used to big organisations being for
    practical purposes uncontactable that it hadn't occurred to me that they
    might be an exception.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    All humanity is divided into three classes: those who are immovable, those who are movable, and those who move! - Benjamin Franklin

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr on Wed Apr 3 15:08:21 2024
    On Sat, 2 Mar 2024 16:01:21 +0100, john1
    <john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr> wrote:

    On 02/03/2024 10:37, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    I'm currently climbing (up and down - following father as far as I
    trust, then stepping back down, and following mother ditto - lather,
    rinse, repeat) my tree, in both my own records and the master tree (or
    whatever they call it) at familysearch. Intent being to see if they can
    give me _pointers_ (I don't blindly accept, but try to check
    independently [and don't accept if I can't]); sometimes they give me
    ideas I haven't thought of, such as a placename in an adjacent county.
    Secondary intent to share my knowledge.

    I seem to be giving familysearch more information than I'm getting from
    them, but I don't mind that.

    But often, in particular where I'm examining a suggested duplicate to
    see if the suggested person is really the same as the person I'm looking
    at, it shows me when both people were "Added" - presumably to their
    master tree. And it's nearly always 2012 - often 1 or 2 May 2012.

    Was there some sort of mass glom - of people - at/by them that year?

    I suspect it might be related to the merging of the LDS/IGI databases
    and database restructuring in 2011/12

    Yes, they merged various sources, and there are lots of duplicates.

    For example, they merged databases of baptism record transcriptions,
    and if a couple had five children in a particular parish, there will
    be five records relating to the same father, and a sixth for his own
    baptism, and seventh for his marriage. Just make very sure before
    merging them that they really are the same person and don't relate to
    his first cousin who had the same name and the same grandparents.

    --
    Steve Hayes
    Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
    http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to Steve Hayes on Wed Apr 3 21:58:48 2024
    XPost: soc.genealogy

    In message <7vkq0jd4l2ne31naq1pp4cp7fislh82ucn@4ax.com> at Wed, 3 Apr
    2024 15:08:21, Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> writes
    []
    On 02/03/2024 10:37, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    []
    But often, in particular where I'm examining a suggested duplicate to
    see if the suggested person is really the same as the person I'm looking >>> at, it shows me when both people were "Added" - presumably to their
    master tree. And it's nearly always 2012 - often 1 or 2 May 2012.

    Was there some sort of mass glom - of people - at/by them that year?

    I suspect it might be related to the merging of the LDS/IGI databases
    and database restructuring in 2011/12

    Yes, they merged various sources, and there are lots of duplicates.

    For example, they merged databases of baptism record transcriptions,
    and if a couple had five children in a particular parish, there will
    be five records relating to the same father, and a sixth for his own
    baptism, and seventh for his marriage. Just make very sure before

    Yes, they could do with a couple merge function. I often find, say, Fred
    and Jane with a given marriage date and location (and often a child with
    a given birth date and location), and it suggests another Fred and
    another Jane with the same marriage date (and often a matching child). I
    then merge the two Freds, but then have to go through the process of
    merging the two Janes. (And the childs [I say that rather than children
    as it's usually one person].)

    merging them that they really are the same person and don't relate to
    his first cousin who had the same name and the same grandparents.

    I don't usually look as far back as grandparents. But yes, one must be
    pretty sure before merging.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    It's quickly getting to a place where privacy will be cause for suspicion.
    - Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-6.

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