• Re: Ancestry divorce records

    From Peter Johnson@21:1/5 to onlyme101@btinternet.com on Sat Nov 9 14:42:30 2024
    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 17:19:20 -0000 (UTC), "Geoff"
    <onlyme101@btinternet.com> wrote:

    Charles Ellson wrote:

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 12:51:20 +0100, john
    <john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr> wrote:

    On 06/11/2024 12:24, Geoff wrote:
    Geoff wrote:

    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or
    date. >>
    Sorry for the early morning typos!

    From a search for "divorce" in the Card Catalogue:
    All England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2465/

    Like e.g. Coroners' records, the divorce records are not a
    comprehensive set of records as not all were retained.

    [https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorce/]

    "4.1 What proportion of case files survive?
    The survival rate of divorce case files is:

    1858-1927: almost 100%
    1928-1937: 80%
    After 1937: less than 0.2%
    No case files survive from the district registries set up in 1927."

    It is sometimes initially quicker and easier to search the Times index
    for notices of divorce in England and Wales.

    Thanks Charles. A couple of mine were after 1937 so I won't waste any
    more time on that line.

    I don't know how much searching old newspapers might help you. When I
    was last in the Isle of Man in the 1990s the local press published
    notices about the recent divorce decrees, including the name of any co-respondent. That might have been because of the IoM having its own judiciary, and a small population, but perhaps some papers on the
    mainland did similar reporting.

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  • From Charles Ellson@21:1/5 to peter@parksidewood.nospam on Sun Nov 10 03:50:10 2024
    On Sat, 09 Nov 2024 14:42:30 +0000, Peter Johnson
    <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote:

    On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 17:19:20 -0000 (UTC), "Geoff"
    <onlyme101@btinternet.com> wrote:

    Charles Ellson wrote:

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 12:51:20 +0100, john
    <john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr> wrote:

    On 06/11/2024 12:24, Geoff wrote:
    Geoff wrote:

    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or
    date. >>
    Sorry for the early morning typos!

    From a search for "divorce" in the Card Catalogue:
    All England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918
    https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2465/

    Like e.g. Coroners' records, the divorce records are not a
    comprehensive set of records as not all were retained.

    [https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorce/]

    "4.1 What proportion of case files survive?
    The survival rate of divorce case files is:

    1858-1927: almost 100%
    1928-1937: 80%
    After 1937: less than 0.2%
    No case files survive from the district registries set up in 1927."

    It is sometimes initially quicker and easier to search the Times index
    for notices of divorce in England and Wales.

    Thanks Charles. A couple of mine were after 1937 so I won't waste any
    more time on that line.

    I don't know how much searching old newspapers might help you. When I
    was last in the Isle of Man in the 1990s the local press published
    notices about the recent divorce decrees, including the name of any >co-respondent. That might have been because of the IoM having its own >judiciary, and a small population, but perhaps some papers on the
    mainland did similar reporting.

    I don't know if the Times still carries on the practice but local
    newspapers in earlier times would also mention divorces, probably
    copied from the Times. In Scotland they are all indexed on the GRO
    and/or National Registers of Scotland websites (put divorce surname1
    surname2 in the search box for all terms to match).

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 10:34:23 2024
    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or date.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to Geoff on Wed Nov 6 11:24:39 2024
    Geoff wrote:

    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or date.

    Sorry for the early morning typos!

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  • From john@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 6 12:57:23 2024
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  • From john@21:1/5 to Geoff on Wed Nov 6 12:51:20 2024
    On 06/11/2024 12:24, Geoff wrote:
    Geoff wrote:

    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or date.

    Sorry for the early morning typos!

    From a search for "divorce" in the Card Catalogue:
    All England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2465/

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  • From Charles Ellson@21:1/5 to john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr on Thu Nov 7 10:07:24 2024
    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 12:51:20 +0100, john
    <john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr> wrote:

    On 06/11/2024 12:24, Geoff wrote:
    Geoff wrote:

    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or date.

    Sorry for the early morning typos!

    From a search for "divorce" in the Card Catalogue:
    All England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918 >https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2465/

    Like e.g. Coroners' records, the divorce records are not a
    comprehensive set of records as not all were retained.

    [https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorce/]

    "4.1 What proportion of case files survive?
    The survival rate of divorce case files is:

    1858-1927: almost 100%
    1928-1937: 80%
    After 1937: less than 0.2%
    No case files survive from the district registries set up in 1927."

    It is sometimes initially quicker and easier to search the Times index
    for notices of divorce in England and Wales.

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to john on Fri Nov 8 16:43:14 2024
    john wrote:

    On 06/11/2024 12:24, Geoff wrote:
    Geoff wrote:

    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or
    date.

    Sorry for the early morning typos!

    From a search for "divorce" in the Card Catalogue:
    All England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2465/

    Many thanks John, Not sure how I missed that one!

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  • From Geoff@21:1/5 to Charles Ellson on Fri Nov 8 17:19:20 2024
    Charles Ellson wrote:

    On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 12:51:20 +0100, john
    <john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr> wrote:

    On 06/11/2024 12:24, Geoff wrote:
    Geoff wrote:

    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or
    date. >>
    Sorry for the early morning typos!

    From a search for "divorce" in the Card Catalogue:
    All England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2465/

    Like e.g. Coroners' records, the divorce records are not a
    comprehensive set of records as not all were retained.


    [https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/divorce/]

    "4.1 What proportion of case files survive?
    The survival rate of divorce case files is:

    1858-1927: almost 100%
    1928-1937: 80%
    After 1937: less than 0.2%
    No case files survive from the district registries set up in 1927."

    It is sometimes initially quicker and easier to search the Times index
    for notices of divorce in England and Wales.

    Thanks Charles. A couple of mine were after 1937 so I won't waste any
    more time on that line.

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  • From JMB99@21:1/5 to Geoff on Wed Nov 27 07:50:04 2024
    On 06/11/2024 10:34, Geoff wrote:
    Aew there actually ANY divorce records on Ancestry? Although they
    claim to have them, I can't even find even one of any place or date.


    They have older ones, I once used them to research a wealthy local
    family, the wife had a very colourful history :-)



    England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918
    England & Wales, Civil Divorce Records, 1858-1918
    Published on Ancestry15/01/2013
    Updated07/12/2023
    The gloves come off in these divorce records, as petitioners make their
    case for dissolving marital unions in the U.K. from 1858-1916.
    Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish 90,710

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