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  • Re: Bowerman, Rookley, Garston & Glamorgan (Isle of Wight)

    From Roderick Ward@21:1/5 to Peter on Fri Aug 12 09:30:52 2022
    On Wednesday, August 2, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Stewart, Peter wrote:
    Can anyone add to or correct the following, taken from VCH Hampshire?
    1 Nicholas Bowerman, of Brook, Isle of Wight, ob 1559
    2 Thomas Bowerman, of Brook
    3 not stated
    4 Sir Thomas Bowerman, fl 1499
    5 Joan Rookley, of Brook, ob 1503
    10 John Rookley (Roucle), of Brook, fl 1431
    11 Joan Garston
    20 Geoffrey Roucle, 'de la Broke'
    21 Isabel de Glamorgan
    22 John Garston
    23 not stated
    42 John de Glamorgan, of Wolverton, IoW
    43 not stated
    4 & 5 entertained Henry VII at Brook. They no doubt have many descendants today through 1 and his sister(s)/cousins
    Peter Stewart

    I realize this post was from 22 years ago, but just in case a response is still of interest…

    The VCH writer does not seem to have had access to the collection of documents related to the manor of Brook now in the Isle of Wight Record Office and with National Archives reference numbers starting with AC95/32, which were “in the hands of the
    great-grand-daughter of the last male descendant of the Bowreman family - Rev Thomas Bowreman (buried at Brook in 1844)” before being sold. I think these documents contain information which provide additions to, and force revisions of, the pedigree
    above.

    3: She was named Eleanor [AC95/32.88].

    10. John’s second marriage was to Margaret/Margery, the widow of Henry Hawles [OG/C/53]. John died about 1452. [C 1/19/168] [AC/95/32.73] [AC95/32.75]

    20. This can’t be right. In Geoffrey’s 1390 ipm Geoffrey’s son John is aged 40 and upwards, which would make [10] at least 102 when he died. [10]’s mother was recorded in 1417 as Joan Patrich, widow, sister of Thomas Glamorgan. [AC95/32.56]

    [20] was presumably [10]’s grandfather rather than father, but I think the VCH is wrong in positing Isabel Glamorgan as Geoffrey’s wife. Isabel Glamorgan married, after the death of her first husband Godfrey de Hunstan, William Thorp [JER/SEL/1/1] [
    AC95/32.33]. In a 1362 lease, she is “Isabella, late wife of William Thorp”, and it is endorsed “Indenture of Isabella Thorpe of Upper Broke”. Geoffrey’s son John was born well before this. Geoffrey married his second wife, Isabel Botiller,
    after 1357. I don’t know who his first wife was.

    Links:
    AC95/32.88 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/7196a9ce-d3aa-4f8d-a95c-cad193375b28
    OG/C/53 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a31f1ef5-e628-41be-bed8-e86540eb37a3
    C 1/19/168
    https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7440650
    AC/95/32.73 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/09105ab8-5ba4-498a-af99-5d709f46c71e
    AC/95/32.75 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/850f0e19-2963-48c8-bcdd-80478d7eee77
    Geoffey’s ipm (scroll down) https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol16/pp366-377
    AC95/32.56 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/07331b57-7c3f-4ea8-bdb5-820afc6a2d36
    JER/SEL/1/1 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/6a528ab3-9f08-4798-9daf-14a09aac61c5
    AC/95/32.33 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/58762b24-d0bb-4097-8fd0-2444231ced5a

    Roderick Ward

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