• Re: Alice Tunstall

    From James Tunstall@21:1/5 to LEA...@aol.com on Sun Oct 9 09:48:14 2022
    On Sunday, July 18, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, LEA...@aol.com wrote:
    Does anyone have the ancestry of Alice Tunstall daughter of Sir Thomas Tunstall of Thurmond Castle ca. 1460 who married Sir Thomas Parre?
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Sincerely,
    MichaelAnne Guido

    From what I can tell from my ancesty, it is unknow if Alice Tunstall had children.

    When Alice Tunstall was born in 1428, her father, Sir, was 42, and her mother, Eleanor, was 31. She lost her father when she was only 6 years old. She had three brothers and five sisters.

    Alice’s family
    Children-No known children
    Selected person-Alice Tunstall
    Parents-Sir Thomas Tunstall II. Eleanor Fitz Hugh

    1428 • Thurland Castle, Lancashire, , England

    Wish I could provide more information,

    Best,

    James

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to James Tunstall on Mon Oct 10 19:25:39 2022
    On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at 9:48:15 AM UTC-7, James Tunstall wrote:
    On Sunday, July 18, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, LEA...@aol.com wrote:
    Does anyone have the ancestry of Alice Tunstall daughter of Sir Thomas Tunstall of Thurmond Castle ca. 1460 who married Sir Thomas Parre?
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Sincerely,
    MichaelAnne Guido

    From what I can tell from my ancesty, it is unknow if Alice Tunstall had children.

    When Alice Tunstall was born in 1428, her father, Sir, was 42, and her mother, Eleanor, was 31. She lost her father when she was only 6 years old. She had three brothers and five sisters.

    Alice’s family
    Children-No known children
    Selected person-Alice Tunstall
    Parents-Sir Thomas Tunstall II. Eleanor Fitz Hugh

    1428 • Thurland Castle, Lancashire, , England

    Wish I could provide more information,

    Best,

    James


    "her father Sir" ? Her father's name was Thomas. "Sir" is a title
    We do not know what year Alice was born.
    In addition we do not know what year her father or her mother was born, so you can't give them specific ages

    Rather than being a daughter of Sir Thomas by Alianor FitzHugh, it's far more likely that Alice was a sister of this man, and therefore a daughter of Sir Thomas by Isabel de Harrington, the parents of the other Sir Thomas.

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 10 19:28:04 2022
    And then next, you mentioned that it's unknown if Alice had children.

    However that Alice Tunstall who married Thomas Parr of Kendal Castle had at least five children including their heir William Parr of Kendal, K.G.

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  • From Devora@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 18:58:04 2023
    they're copying and pasting randomly

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  • From Steve Barnhoorn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 17 14:12:11 2023
    Hi:

    I'm wondering if anyone has located any primary source evidence that makes Agnes Parr (born about 1443; died sometime around 1497), who married Sir Thomas Strickland (born about 1443 in Sizergh, Westmorland, England).

    According to this link, there does not appear to be any contemporaneous evidence that makes Agnes the daughter of Thomas Parr and Alice Tunstall:

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Parr-89

    Any assistance would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Regards,

    Steve Barnhoorn

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Steve Barnhoorn on Wed Jan 18 16:23:05 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 2:12:12 PM UTC-8, Steve Barnhoorn wrote:
    Hi:

    I'm wondering if anyone has located any primary source evidence that makes Agnes Parr (born about 1443; died sometime around 1497), who married Sir Thomas Strickland (born about 1443 in Sizergh, Westmorland, England).

    According to this link, there does not appear to be any contemporaneous evidence that makes Agnes the daughter of Thomas Parr and Alice Tunstall:

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Parr-89

    Any assistance would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Regards,

    Steve Barnhoorn

    http://books.google.com/books?id=Nh0IAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA354

    Contemporary evidence is a tricky beast, since the MS Pedigrees of Parr *might* be contemporary, depending.
    Top et, here says there are more than one of these without citing exactly how to find them.

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Wed Jan 18 16:35:21 2023
    On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 4:23:07 PM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 2:12:12 PM UTC-8, Steve Barnhoorn wrote:
    Hi:

    I'm wondering if anyone has located any primary source evidence that makes Agnes Parr (born about 1443; died sometime around 1497), who married Sir Thomas Strickland (born about 1443 in Sizergh, Westmorland, England).

    According to this link, there does not appear to be any contemporaneous evidence that makes Agnes the daughter of Thomas Parr and Alice Tunstall:

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Parr-89

    Any assistance would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Regards,

    Steve Barnhoorn
    http://books.google.com/books?id=Nh0IAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA354

    Contemporary evidence is a tricky beast, since the MS Pedigrees of Parr *might* be contemporary, depending.
    Top et, here says there are more than one of these without citing exactly how to find them.

    It is Thomas Strickland who d 1497 not this first wife Agnes who was dead by 1491.
    Thomas himself married secondly Margery Fouleshurst

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Wed Jan 18 16:41:50 2023
    On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 4:23:07 PM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 2:12:12 PM UTC-8, Steve Barnhoorn wrote:
    Hi:

    I'm wondering if anyone has located any primary source evidence that makes Agnes Parr (born about 1443; died sometime around 1497), who married Sir Thomas Strickland (born about 1443 in Sizergh, Westmorland, England).

    According to this link, there does not appear to be any contemporaneous evidence that makes Agnes the daughter of Thomas Parr and Alice Tunstall:

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Parr-89

    Any assistance would be appreciated.

    Thanks.

    Regards,

    Steve Barnhoorn
    http://books.google.com/books?id=Nh0IAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA354

    Contemporary evidence is a tricky beast, since the MS Pedigrees of Parr *might* be contemporary, depending.
    Top et, here says there are more than one of these without citing exactly how to find them.
    It is Thomas Strickland who d 1497 not this first wife Agnes who was dead by 1491.
    Thomas himself married secondly Margery Fouleshurst

    The reference to https://archive.org/details/extinctdormantpe00clay/page/157/mode/1up?q=strickland+parr
    Clay "Extinct and Dormant Peerages"
    is not extra support, since Clay simply cites the earlier Top et Gen already posted above

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