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  • The probable 3rd and 4th wives of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Canon and Dean of

    From JBrand@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 11 21:41:45 2022
    [Just clearing some more or less formless clues from the queue ...]

    This one is of only modest interest, as neither of these final wives was the mother of his children.

    Dr. Thomas Sheafe was the father by his first wife of Dorothy (Sheafe) Whitfield, wife of the Rev. Henry Whitfield of Guilford, Connecticut. He had two wives identified thus far -- first, Mary/ Maria Wilson; and second, Anne or Anna Woodward.

    Many articles in NEHGR and TAG, and Mr. Threlfall's book on Sheafe / Whitfield, show the death of the first wife, Mary Wilson, as 26 July 1613 at Welford, Berkshire, where he was the minister.

    The baptism of his only child by the new/ second wife (Anne Woodward) and Anne's death the same day also occurred at Welford:

    --30 Sept. 1614, bapt. of "Edward, son of Thomas Sheafe"
    --30 Sept. 1614, "Anna, wife of Thomas Sheafe," [buried]

    The probable 3rd wife, Mary Burrell/ Burwell, is identified in _The Victoria County History of Hertfordshire_, 2: 232, which discusses the manor they held jointly, "Dame Seres" at Kensworth, Hertfordshire: "By his will he [Richard Alway, d. 1611] left
    it [the Dame Seres property] to a kinswoman, Mary Burrell, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of Ralph Alway, brother of Richard, if any should survive her. Mary was holding the estate in 1618, and probably married Thomas Sheafe, S.T.P. [i.e., '
    Professor of Sacred Theology']. Mary Sheafe devised this manor to a kinsman, William Burrell or Burwell, who sold it in 1642 ..."

    The October 1626 will of Edward Burwell "desired his sister Sheafe to take his eldest daughter, and keep her as servant ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ancestry_of_Benjamin_Harrison/IeVDAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary+burwell+sheafe&pg=PA35&printsec=frontcover

    Mary's burial in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, was described as follows: "Mis Sheafe wife to Doc sheafe one of ye Canons Died the last of Desemember [sic] and was bewried ye first of Janewary in ye yeare 1635." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R. Poyser,
    eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 193).

    More tomorrow on the 4th wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Alice (Osborne) Sheafe ...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to JBrand on Thu Oct 13 07:21:11 2022
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    [Just clearing some more or less formless clues from the queue ...]

    This one is of only modest interest, as neither of these final wives was the mother of his children.

    Dr. Thomas Sheafe was the father by his first wife of Dorothy (Sheafe) Whitfield, wife of the Rev. Henry Whitfield of Guilford, Connecticut. He had two wives identified thus far -- first, Mary/ Maria Wilson; and second, Anne or Anna Woodward.

    Many articles in NEHGR and TAG, and Mr. Threlfall's book on Sheafe / Whitfield, show the death of the first wife, Mary Wilson, as 26 July 1613 at Welford, Berkshire, where he was the minister.

    The baptism of his only child by the new/ second wife (Anne Woodward) and Anne's death the same day also occurred at Welford:

    --30 Sept. 1614, bapt. of "Edward, son of Thomas Sheafe"
    --30 Sept. 1614, "Anna, wife of Thomas Sheafe," [buried]

    The probable 3rd wife, Mary Burrell/ Burwell, is identified in _The Victoria County History of Hertfordshire_, 2: 232, which discusses the manor they held jointly, "Dame Seres" at Kensworth, Hertfordshire: "By his will he [Richard Alway, d. 1611] left
    it [the Dame Seres property] to a kinswoman, Mary Burrell, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of Ralph Alway, brother of Richard, if any should survive her. Mary was holding the estate in 1618, and probably married Thomas Sheafe, S.T.P. [i.e., '
    Professor of Sacred Theology']. Mary Sheafe devised this manor to a kinsman, William Burrell or Burwell, who sold it in 1642 ..."

    The October 1626 will of Edward Burwell "desired his sister Sheafe to take his eldest daughter, and keep her as servant ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ancestry_of_Benjamin_Harrison/IeVDAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary+burwell+sheafe&pg=PA35&printsec=frontcover

    Mary's burial in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, was described as follows: "Mis Sheafe wife to Doc sheafe one of ye Canons Died the last of Desemember [sic] and was bewried ye first of Janewary in ye yeare 1635." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R.
    Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 193).

    More tomorrow on the 4th wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Alice (Osborne) Sheafe ...

    A collection of Sheafe wills published in _Historical Collections of the Essex Institute_ (around 1907-8) is also quite helpful, and includes the will of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, "Doctor of Divinity and parson of Welford," dated June 1639. Though his wife
    Mary Burrell/ Burwell had been buried in 1635 [i.e., early 1635/6?], his will from 1639 mentions "my loving wife" [no name given]. However, she was surely the originator of the next will presented in the series in _EIHC_, "Alice Sheafe of New Windsor ...
    widow," whose will was dated 4 April 1649, proved 5 Feb. 1649[/50].

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175033371025&view=1up&seq=111&q1=babbington

    Most of her will concerns her own relations -- the Osbornes, Babingtons, and Plumptons -- but she gives "to Mary Sheafe, the daughter of my son in law, [Dtor] Sheafe, the money that her father oweth me." A second Doctor Thomas Sheafe, the son of Dr.
    Thomas and Mary (Wilson) Sheafe, was known to have an eldest daughter Mary in this time period; thus Alice is mentioning her "son in law" in the sense of "stepson," and his daughter, her step-granddaughter.

    [See Edmund Sheafe's contemporaneous will mentioning his brother Doctor Thomas Sheafe and daughter Mary:]
    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/r301ndLxbbkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22brother+doctor+thomas+sheafe%22&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover

    From clues within her own will, including her request to be buried in "the castle church of Windsor" near her father, her brother and sister-in-law, Edward and Constance Osborne, and her Babington and Plumpton "cousins" (probably nieces and nephews), it
    seems clear Alice Sheafe was the daughter of Andrew Osborne, Merchant Taylor of London, whose memorial inscription from St. George's Chapel, Windsor, is given here:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    See also:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_Genealogical/fMMMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101072869462&view=1up&seq=286&q1=osborne

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/Wn0_AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+draper&pg=PA274&printsec=frontcover

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Genealogist/oqQjDe2il1IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+london+stratford&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover

    Alice's mother was Andrew Osborne's first wife, Alice Stratford of Farncott, Gloucestershire.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to Johnny Brananas on Thu Oct 13 09:34:29 2022
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:21:13 AM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    [Just clearing some more or less formless clues from the queue ...]

    This one is of only modest interest, as neither of these final wives was the mother of his children.

    Dr. Thomas Sheafe was the father by his first wife of Dorothy (Sheafe) Whitfield, wife of the Rev. Henry Whitfield of Guilford, Connecticut. He had two wives identified thus far -- first, Mary/ Maria Wilson; and second, Anne or Anna Woodward.

    Many articles in NEHGR and TAG, and Mr. Threlfall's book on Sheafe / Whitfield, show the death of the first wife, Mary Wilson, as 26 July 1613 at Welford, Berkshire, where he was the minister.

    The baptism of his only child by the new/ second wife (Anne Woodward) and Anne's death the same day also occurred at Welford:

    --30 Sept. 1614, bapt. of "Edward, son of Thomas Sheafe"
    --30 Sept. 1614, "Anna, wife of Thomas Sheafe," [buried]

    The probable 3rd wife, Mary Burrell/ Burwell, is identified in _The Victoria County History of Hertfordshire_, 2: 232, which discusses the manor they held jointly, "Dame Seres" at Kensworth, Hertfordshire: "By his will he [Richard Alway, d. 1611]
    left it [the Dame Seres property] to a kinswoman, Mary Burrell, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of Ralph Alway, brother of Richard, if any should survive her. Mary was holding the estate in 1618, and probably married Thomas Sheafe, S.T.P. [i.e.
    , 'Professor of Sacred Theology']. Mary Sheafe devised this manor to a kinsman, William Burrell or Burwell, who sold it in 1642 ..."

    The October 1626 will of Edward Burwell "desired his sister Sheafe to take his eldest daughter, and keep her as servant ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ancestry_of_Benjamin_Harrison/IeVDAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary+burwell+sheafe&pg=PA35&printsec=frontcover

    Mary's burial in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, was described as follows: "Mis Sheafe wife to Doc sheafe one of ye Canons Died the last of Desemember [sic] and was bewried ye first of Janewary in ye yeare 1635." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R.
    Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 193).

    More tomorrow on the 4th wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Alice (Osborne) Sheafe ...
    A collection of Sheafe wills published in _Historical Collections of the Essex Institute_ (around 1907-8) is also quite helpful, and includes the will of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, "Doctor of Divinity and parson of Welford," dated June 1639. Though his wife
    Mary Burrell/ Burwell had been buried in 1635 [i.e., early 1635/6?], his will from 1639 mentions "my loving wife" [no name given]. However, she was surely the originator of the next will presented in the series in _EIHC_, "Alice Sheafe of New Windsor ...
    widow," whose will was dated 4 April 1649, proved 5 Feb. 1649[/50].

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175033371025&view=1up&seq=111&q1=babbington

    Most of her will concerns her own relations -- the Osbornes, Babingtons, and Plumptons -- but she gives "to Mary Sheafe, the daughter of my son in law, [Dtor] Sheafe, the money that her father oweth me." A second Doctor Thomas Sheafe, the son of Dr.
    Thomas and Mary (Wilson) Sheafe, was known to have an eldest daughter Mary in this time period; thus Alice is mentioning her "son in law" in the sense of "stepson," and his daughter, her step-granddaughter.

    [See Edmund Sheafe's contemporaneous will mentioning his brother Doctor Thomas Sheafe and daughter Mary:]
    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/r301ndLxbbkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22brother+doctor+thomas+sheafe%22&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover

    From clues within her own will, including her request to be buried in "the castle church of Windsor" near her father, her brother and sister-in-law, Edward and Constance Osborne, and her Babington and Plumpton "cousins" (probably nieces and nephews),
    it seems clear Alice Sheafe was the daughter of Andrew Osborne, Merchant Taylor of London, whose memorial inscription from St. George's Chapel, Windsor, is given here:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    See also:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_Genealogical/fMMMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101072869462&view=1up&seq=286&q1=osborne

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/Wn0_AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+draper&pg=PA274&printsec=frontcover

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Genealogist/oqQjDe2il1IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+london+stratford&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover

    Alice's mother was Andrew Osborne's first wife, Alice Stratford of Farncott, Gloucestershire.

    The second wife, Anne Woodward, her husband ("Dr Sheffe Prebend of Windsore"), and their only child, Edward Sheafe (b. 1614), are shown in Philipot's and Ryley's _Visitation of the County of Buckingham Made in 1634 . . . _:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951p00933525j&view=1up&seq=154&q1=sheafe

    Anne Woodward was a daughter of George and Elizabeth (Honywood) Woodward of Upton, Bucks., and possibly a full sister of Martha (Woodward) (Bacon) (? Peck), who may be the lady who has Bacon descendants in Virginia and married for the second time, as his
    second wife, to Rev. Robert Peck of Hingham, Norfolk [... I haven't proved these Woodward-Bacon-Peck connections to my complete satisfaction].

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to Johnny Brananas on Thu Oct 13 13:05:17 2022
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:34:31 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:21:13 AM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    [Just clearing some more or less formless clues from the queue ...]

    This one is of only modest interest, as neither of these final wives was the mother of his children.

    Dr. Thomas Sheafe was the father by his first wife of Dorothy (Sheafe) Whitfield, wife of the Rev. Henry Whitfield of Guilford, Connecticut. He had two wives identified thus far -- first, Mary/ Maria Wilson; and second, Anne or Anna Woodward.

    Many articles in NEHGR and TAG, and Mr. Threlfall's book on Sheafe / Whitfield, show the death of the first wife, Mary Wilson, as 26 July 1613 at Welford, Berkshire, where he was the minister.

    The baptism of his only child by the new/ second wife (Anne Woodward) and Anne's death the same day also occurred at Welford:

    --30 Sept. 1614, bapt. of "Edward, son of Thomas Sheafe"
    --30 Sept. 1614, "Anna, wife of Thomas Sheafe," [buried]

    The probable 3rd wife, Mary Burrell/ Burwell, is identified in _The Victoria County History of Hertfordshire_, 2: 232, which discusses the manor they held jointly, "Dame Seres" at Kensworth, Hertfordshire: "By his will he [Richard Alway, d. 1611]
    left it [the Dame Seres property] to a kinswoman, Mary Burrell, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of Ralph Alway, brother of Richard, if any should survive her. Mary was holding the estate in 1618, and probably married Thomas Sheafe, S.T.P. [i.e.
    , 'Professor of Sacred Theology']. Mary Sheafe devised this manor to a kinsman, William Burrell or Burwell, who sold it in 1642 ..."

    The October 1626 will of Edward Burwell "desired his sister Sheafe to take his eldest daughter, and keep her as servant ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ancestry_of_Benjamin_Harrison/IeVDAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary+burwell+sheafe&pg=PA35&printsec=frontcover

    Mary's burial in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, was described as follows: "Mis Sheafe wife to Doc sheafe one of ye Canons Died the last of Desemember [sic] and was bewried ye first of Janewary in ye yeare 1635." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R.
    Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 193).

    More tomorrow on the 4th wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Alice (Osborne) Sheafe ...
    A collection of Sheafe wills published in _Historical Collections of the Essex Institute_ (around 1907-8) is also quite helpful, and includes the will of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, "Doctor of Divinity and parson of Welford," dated June 1639. Though his wife
    Mary Burrell/ Burwell had been buried in 1635 [i.e., early 1635/6?], his will from 1639 mentions "my loving wife" [no name given]. However, she was surely the originator of the next will presented in the series in _EIHC_, "Alice Sheafe of New Windsor ...
    widow," whose will was dated 4 April 1649, proved 5 Feb. 1649[/50].

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175033371025&view=1up&seq=111&q1=babbington

    Most of her will concerns her own relations -- the Osbornes, Babingtons, and Plumptons -- but she gives "to Mary Sheafe, the daughter of my son in law, [Dtor] Sheafe, the money that her father oweth me." A second Doctor Thomas Sheafe, the son of Dr.
    Thomas and Mary (Wilson) Sheafe, was known to have an eldest daughter Mary in this time period; thus Alice is mentioning her "son in law" in the sense of "stepson," and his daughter, her step-granddaughter.

    [See Edmund Sheafe's contemporaneous will mentioning his brother Doctor Thomas Sheafe and daughter Mary:]
    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/r301ndLxbbkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22brother+doctor+thomas+sheafe%22&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover

    From clues within her own will, including her request to be buried in "the castle church of Windsor" near her father, her brother and sister-in-law, Edward and Constance Osborne, and her Babington and Plumpton "cousins" (probably nieces and nephews),
    it seems clear Alice Sheafe was the daughter of Andrew Osborne, Merchant Taylor of London, whose memorial inscription from St. George's Chapel, Windsor, is given here:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    See also:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_Genealogical/fMMMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101072869462&view=1up&seq=286&q1=osborne

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/Wn0_AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+draper&pg=PA274&printsec=frontcover

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Genealogist/oqQjDe2il1IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+london+stratford&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover

    Alice's mother was Andrew Osborne's first wife, Alice Stratford of Farncott, Gloucestershire.
    The second wife, Anne Woodward, her husband ("Dr Sheffe Prebend of Windsore"), and their only child, Edward Sheafe (b. 1614), are shown in Philipot's and Ryley's _Visitation of the County of Buckingham Made in 1634 . . . _:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951p00933525j&view=1up&seq=154&q1=sheafe

    Anne Woodward was a daughter of George and Elizabeth (Honywood) Woodward of Upton, Bucks., and possibly a full sister of Martha (Woodward) (Bacon) (? Peck), who may be the lady who has Bacon descendants in Virginia and married for the second time, as
    his second wife, to Rev. Robert Peck of Hingham, Norfolk [... I haven't proved these Woodward-Bacon-Peck connections to my complete satisfaction].

    I don't believe Thomas Sheafe could have been a DEAN of Windsor, based on the following ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_of_Windsor

    However, he was definitely a Canon of Windsor (technically, the "Canon of the Ninth Stall")...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_and_Canons_of_Windsor

    So perhaps the title at the top should be changed to "The probable 3rd and 4th wives of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Prebendary and Canon of Windsor"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From JBrand@21:1/5 to Johnny Brananas on Thu Oct 13 17:27:36 2022
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 4:05:18 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:34:31 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:21:13 AM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    [Just clearing some more or less formless clues from the queue ...]

    This one is of only modest interest, as neither of these final wives was the mother of his children.

    Dr. Thomas Sheafe was the father by his first wife of Dorothy (Sheafe) Whitfield, wife of the Rev. Henry Whitfield of Guilford, Connecticut. He had two wives identified thus far -- first, Mary/ Maria Wilson; and second, Anne or Anna Woodward.

    Many articles in NEHGR and TAG, and Mr. Threlfall's book on Sheafe / Whitfield, show the death of the first wife, Mary Wilson, as 26 July 1613 at Welford, Berkshire, where he was the minister.

    The baptism of his only child by the new/ second wife (Anne Woodward) and Anne's death the same day also occurred at Welford:

    --30 Sept. 1614, bapt. of "Edward, son of Thomas Sheafe"
    --30 Sept. 1614, "Anna, wife of Thomas Sheafe," [buried]

    The probable 3rd wife, Mary Burrell/ Burwell, is identified in _The Victoria County History of Hertfordshire_, 2: 232, which discusses the manor they held jointly, "Dame Seres" at Kensworth, Hertfordshire: "By his will he [Richard Alway, d. 1611]
    left it [the Dame Seres property] to a kinswoman, Mary Burrell, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of Ralph Alway, brother of Richard, if any should survive her. Mary was holding the estate in 1618, and probably married Thomas Sheafe, S.T.P. [i.e.
    , 'Professor of Sacred Theology']. Mary Sheafe devised this manor to a kinsman, William Burrell or Burwell, who sold it in 1642 ..."

    The October 1626 will of Edward Burwell "desired his sister Sheafe to take his eldest daughter, and keep her as servant ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ancestry_of_Benjamin_Harrison/IeVDAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary+burwell+sheafe&pg=PA35&printsec=frontcover

    Mary's burial in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, was described as follows: "Mis Sheafe wife to Doc sheafe one of ye Canons Died the last of Desemember [sic] and was bewried ye first of Janewary in ye yeare 1635." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R.
    Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 193).

    More tomorrow on the 4th wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Alice (Osborne) Sheafe ...
    A collection of Sheafe wills published in _Historical Collections of the Essex Institute_ (around 1907-8) is also quite helpful, and includes the will of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, "Doctor of Divinity and parson of Welford," dated June 1639. Though his
    wife Mary Burrell/ Burwell had been buried in 1635 [i.e., early 1635/6?], his will from 1639 mentions "my loving wife" [no name given]. However, she was surely the originator of the next will presented in the series in _EIHC_, "Alice Sheafe of New
    Windsor ... widow," whose will was dated 4 April 1649, proved 5 Feb. 1649[/50].

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175033371025&view=1up&seq=111&q1=babbington

    Most of her will concerns her own relations -- the Osbornes, Babingtons, and Plumptons -- but she gives "to Mary Sheafe, the daughter of my son in law, [Dtor] Sheafe, the money that her father oweth me." A second Doctor Thomas Sheafe, the son of Dr.
    Thomas and Mary (Wilson) Sheafe, was known to have an eldest daughter Mary in this time period; thus Alice is mentioning her "son in law" in the sense of "stepson," and his daughter, her step-granddaughter.

    [See Edmund Sheafe's contemporaneous will mentioning his brother Doctor Thomas Sheafe and daughter Mary:]
    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/r301ndLxbbkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22brother+doctor+thomas+sheafe%22&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover

    From clues within her own will, including her request to be buried in "the castle church of Windsor" near her father, her brother and sister-in-law, Edward and Constance Osborne, and her Babington and Plumpton "cousins" (probably nieces and nephews)
    , it seems clear Alice Sheafe was the daughter of Andrew Osborne, Merchant Taylor of London, whose memorial inscription from St. George's Chapel, Windsor, is given here:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    See also:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_Genealogical/fMMMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101072869462&view=1up&seq=286&q1=osborne

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/Wn0_AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+draper&pg=PA274&printsec=frontcover

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Genealogist/oqQjDe2il1IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+london+stratford&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover

    Alice's mother was Andrew Osborne's first wife, Alice Stratford of Farncott, Gloucestershire.
    The second wife, Anne Woodward, her husband ("Dr Sheffe Prebend of Windsore"), and their only child, Edward Sheafe (b. 1614), are shown in Philipot's and Ryley's _Visitation of the County of Buckingham Made in 1634 . . . _:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951p00933525j&view=1up&seq=154&q1=sheafe

    Anne Woodward was a daughter of George and Elizabeth (Honywood) Woodward of Upton, Bucks., and possibly a full sister of Martha (Woodward) (Bacon) (? Peck), who may be the lady who has Bacon descendants in Virginia and married for the second time, as
    his second wife, to Rev. Robert Peck of Hingham, Norfolk [... I haven't proved these Woodward-Bacon-Peck connections to my complete satisfaction].
    I don't believe Thomas Sheafe could have been a DEAN of Windsor, based on the following ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_of_Windsor

    However, he was definitely a Canon of Windsor (technically, the "Canon of the Ninth Stall")...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_and_Canons_of_Windsor

    So perhaps the title at the top should be changed to "The probable 3rd and 4th wives of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Prebendary and Canon of Windsor"

    "Thomas Sheafe Doc: of Devinitie and on[e] of the Cannons of this Church died the. 11. of Desember and was buried the. 15. of the same month: 1639." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R. Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St
    George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 195).

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  • From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to JBrand on Fri Oct 14 08:29:34 2022
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 8:27:38 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 4:05:18 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:34:31 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:21:13 AM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    [Just clearing some more or less formless clues from the queue ...]

    This one is of only modest interest, as neither of these final wives was the mother of his children.

    Dr. Thomas Sheafe was the father by his first wife of Dorothy (Sheafe) Whitfield, wife of the Rev. Henry Whitfield of Guilford, Connecticut. He had two wives identified thus far -- first, Mary/ Maria Wilson; and second, Anne or Anna Woodward.

    Many articles in NEHGR and TAG, and Mr. Threlfall's book on Sheafe / Whitfield, show the death of the first wife, Mary Wilson, as 26 July 1613 at Welford, Berkshire, where he was the minister.

    The baptism of his only child by the new/ second wife (Anne Woodward) and Anne's death the same day also occurred at Welford:

    --30 Sept. 1614, bapt. of "Edward, son of Thomas Sheafe"
    --30 Sept. 1614, "Anna, wife of Thomas Sheafe," [buried]

    The probable 3rd wife, Mary Burrell/ Burwell, is identified in _The Victoria County History of Hertfordshire_, 2: 232, which discusses the manor they held jointly, "Dame Seres" at Kensworth, Hertfordshire: "By his will he [Richard Alway, d.
    1611] left it [the Dame Seres property] to a kinswoman, Mary Burrell, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of Ralph Alway, brother of Richard, if any should survive her. Mary was holding the estate in 1618, and probably married Thomas Sheafe, S.T.P.
    [i.e., 'Professor of Sacred Theology']. Mary Sheafe devised this manor to a kinsman, William Burrell or Burwell, who sold it in 1642 ..."

    The October 1626 will of Edward Burwell "desired his sister Sheafe to take his eldest daughter, and keep her as servant ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ancestry_of_Benjamin_Harrison/IeVDAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary+burwell+sheafe&pg=PA35&printsec=frontcover

    Mary's burial in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, was described as follows: "Mis Sheafe wife to Doc sheafe one of ye Canons Died the last of Desemember [sic] and was bewried ye first of Janewary in ye yeare 1635." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth
    R. Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 193).

    More tomorrow on the 4th wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Alice (Osborne) Sheafe ...
    A collection of Sheafe wills published in _Historical Collections of the Essex Institute_ (around 1907-8) is also quite helpful, and includes the will of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, "Doctor of Divinity and parson of Welford," dated June 1639. Though his
    wife Mary Burrell/ Burwell had been buried in 1635 [i.e., early 1635/6?], his will from 1639 mentions "my loving wife" [no name given]. However, she was surely the originator of the next will presented in the series in _EIHC_, "Alice Sheafe of New
    Windsor ... widow," whose will was dated 4 April 1649, proved 5 Feb. 1649[/50].

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175033371025&view=1up&seq=111&q1=babbington

    Most of her will concerns her own relations -- the Osbornes, Babingtons, and Plumptons -- but she gives "to Mary Sheafe, the daughter of my son in law, [Dtor] Sheafe, the money that her father oweth me." A second Doctor Thomas Sheafe, the son of
    Dr. Thomas and Mary (Wilson) Sheafe, was known to have an eldest daughter Mary in this time period; thus Alice is mentioning her "son in law" in the sense of "stepson," and his daughter, her step-granddaughter.

    [See Edmund Sheafe's contemporaneous will mentioning his brother Doctor Thomas Sheafe and daughter Mary:]
    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/r301ndLxbbkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22brother+doctor+thomas+sheafe%22&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover

    From clues within her own will, including her request to be buried in "the castle church of Windsor" near her father, her brother and sister-in-law, Edward and Constance Osborne, and her Babington and Plumpton "cousins" (probably nieces and
    nephews), it seems clear Alice Sheafe was the daughter of Andrew Osborne, Merchant Taylor of London, whose memorial inscription from St. George's Chapel, Windsor, is given here:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    See also:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_Genealogical/fMMMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101072869462&view=1up&seq=286&q1=osborne

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/Wn0_AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+draper&pg=PA274&printsec=frontcover

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Genealogist/oqQjDe2il1IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+london+stratford&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover

    Alice's mother was Andrew Osborne's first wife, Alice Stratford of Farncott, Gloucestershire.
    The second wife, Anne Woodward, her husband ("Dr Sheffe Prebend of Windsore"), and their only child, Edward Sheafe (b. 1614), are shown in Philipot's and Ryley's _Visitation of the County of Buckingham Made in 1634 . . . _:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951p00933525j&view=1up&seq=154&q1=sheafe

    Anne Woodward was a daughter of George and Elizabeth (Honywood) Woodward of Upton, Bucks., and possibly a full sister of Martha (Woodward) (Bacon) (? Peck), who may be the lady who has Bacon descendants in Virginia and married for the second time,
    as his second wife, to Rev. Robert Peck of Hingham, Norfolk [... I haven't proved these Woodward-Bacon-Peck connections to my complete satisfaction].
    I don't believe Thomas Sheafe could have been a DEAN of Windsor, based on the following ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_of_Windsor

    However, he was definitely a Canon of Windsor (technically, the "Canon of the Ninth Stall")...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_and_Canons_of_Windsor

    So perhaps the title at the top should be changed to "The probable 3rd and 4th wives of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Prebendary and Canon of Windsor"
    "Thomas Sheafe Doc: of Devinitie and on[e] of the Cannons of this Church died the. 11. of Desember and was buried the. 15. of the same month: 1639." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R. Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St
    George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 195).

    The place of publication of the Fellowes/Poyser book is Windsor, not London ...

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Johnny Brananas on Fri Oct 14 12:14:13 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 8:29:35 AM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 8:27:38 PM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 4:05:18 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 12:34:31 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 10:21:13 AM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 12:41:46 AM UTC-4, JBrand wrote:
    [Just clearing some more or less formless clues from the queue ...]

    This one is of only modest interest, as neither of these final wives was the mother of his children.

    Dr. Thomas Sheafe was the father by his first wife of Dorothy (Sheafe) Whitfield, wife of the Rev. Henry Whitfield of Guilford, Connecticut. He had two wives identified thus far -- first, Mary/ Maria Wilson; and second, Anne or Anna Woodward.

    Many articles in NEHGR and TAG, and Mr. Threlfall's book on Sheafe / Whitfield, show the death of the first wife, Mary Wilson, as 26 July 1613 at Welford, Berkshire, where he was the minister.

    The baptism of his only child by the new/ second wife (Anne Woodward) and Anne's death the same day also occurred at Welford:

    --30 Sept. 1614, bapt. of "Edward, son of Thomas Sheafe"
    --30 Sept. 1614, "Anna, wife of Thomas Sheafe," [buried]

    The probable 3rd wife, Mary Burrell/ Burwell, is identified in _The Victoria County History of Hertfordshire_, 2: 232, which discusses the manor they held jointly, "Dame Seres" at Kensworth, Hertfordshire: "By his will he [Richard Alway, d.
    1611] left it [the Dame Seres property] to a kinswoman, Mary Burrell, for life, with remainder to the heirs male of Ralph Alway, brother of Richard, if any should survive her. Mary was holding the estate in 1618, and probably married Thomas Sheafe, S.T.P.
    [i.e., 'Professor of Sacred Theology']. Mary Sheafe devised this manor to a kinsman, William Burrell or Burwell, who sold it in 1642 ..."

    The October 1626 will of Edward Burwell "desired his sister Sheafe to take his eldest daughter, and keep her as servant ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Ancestry_of_Benjamin_Harrison/IeVDAQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=mary+burwell+sheafe&pg=PA35&printsec=frontcover

    Mary's burial in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, was described as follows: "Mis Sheafe wife to Doc sheafe one of ye Canons Died the last of Desemember [sic] and was bewried ye first of Janewary in ye yeare 1635." (Edmund H. Fellowes and
    Elisabeth R. Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 193).

    More tomorrow on the 4th wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Alice (Osborne) Sheafe ...
    A collection of Sheafe wills published in _Historical Collections of the Essex Institute_ (around 1907-8) is also quite helpful, and includes the will of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, "Doctor of Divinity and parson of Welford," dated June 1639. Though his
    wife Mary Burrell/ Burwell had been buried in 1635 [i.e., early 1635/6?], his will from 1639 mentions "my loving wife" [no name given]. However, she was surely the originator of the next will presented in the series in _EIHC_, "Alice Sheafe of New
    Windsor ... widow," whose will was dated 4 April 1649, proved 5 Feb. 1649[/50].

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31175033371025&view=1up&seq=111&q1=babbington

    Most of her will concerns her own relations -- the Osbornes, Babingtons, and Plumptons -- but she gives "to Mary Sheafe, the daughter of my son in law, [Dtor] Sheafe, the money that her father oweth me." A second Doctor Thomas Sheafe, the son
    of Dr. Thomas and Mary (Wilson) Sheafe, was known to have an eldest daughter Mary in this time period; thus Alice is mentioning her "son in law" in the sense of "stepson," and his daughter, her step-granddaughter.

    [See Edmund Sheafe's contemporaneous will mentioning his brother Doctor Thomas Sheafe and daughter Mary:]
    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/r301ndLxbbkC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22brother+doctor+thomas+sheafe%22&pg=PA78&printsec=frontcover

    From clues within her own will, including her request to be buried in "the castle church of Windsor" near her father, her brother and sister-in-law, Edward and Constance Osborne, and her Babington and Plumpton "cousins" (probably nieces and
    nephews), it seems clear Alice Sheafe was the daughter of Andrew Osborne, Merchant Taylor of London, whose memorial inscription from St. George's Chapel, Windsor, is given here:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    See also:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_Genealogical/fMMMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+register&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=njp.32101072869462&view=1up&seq=286&q1=osborne

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Publications_of_the_Harleian_Society/Wn0_AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22andrew+osborne%22+draper&pg=PA274&printsec=frontcover

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Genealogist/oqQjDe2il1IC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+london+stratford&pg=PA169&printsec=frontcover

    Alice's mother was Andrew Osborne's first wife, Alice Stratford of Farncott, Gloucestershire.
    The second wife, Anne Woodward, her husband ("Dr Sheffe Prebend of Windsore"), and their only child, Edward Sheafe (b. 1614), are shown in Philipot's and Ryley's _Visitation of the County of Buckingham Made in 1634 . . . _:

    https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951p00933525j&view=1up&seq=154&q1=sheafe

    Anne Woodward was a daughter of George and Elizabeth (Honywood) Woodward of Upton, Bucks., and possibly a full sister of Martha (Woodward) (Bacon) (? Peck), who may be the lady who has Bacon descendants in Virginia and married for the second time,
    as his second wife, to Rev. Robert Peck of Hingham, Norfolk [... I haven't proved these Woodward-Bacon-Peck connections to my complete satisfaction].
    I don't believe Thomas Sheafe could have been a DEAN of Windsor, based on the following ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_of_Windsor

    However, he was definitely a Canon of Windsor (technically, the "Canon of the Ninth Stall")...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_and_Canons_of_Windsor

    So perhaps the title at the top should be changed to "The probable 3rd and 4th wives of Dr. Thomas Sheafe, Prebendary and Canon of Windsor"
    "Thomas Sheafe Doc: of Devinitie and on[e] of the Cannons of this Church died the. 11. of Desember and was buried the. 15. of the same month: 1639." (Edmund H. Fellowes and Elisabeth R. Poyser, eds., _The Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers of St
    George's Chapel, Windsor_ [London, 1957], p. 195).
    The place of publication of the Fellowes/Poyser book is Windsor, not London ...


    I have linked the Wikipedia articles for Thomas Sheafe and Henry Whitfield together using this information.

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Oct 14 12:20:26 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:

    I have linked the Wikipedia articles for Thomas Sheafe and Henry Whitfield together using this information.


    Her sister Anne is from where these Plumpton connections come

    https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/85382149/person/48530889831/media/09e762d9-0787-4028-9c16-6c7c0a3a97d1?_phsrc=INL6895&_phstart=successSource

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  • From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Fri Oct 14 12:53:10 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:22:07 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:20:27 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:

    I have linked the Wikipedia articles for Thomas Sheafe and Henry Whitfield together using this information.
    Her sister Anne is from where these Plumpton connections come

    https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/85382149/person/48530889831/media/09e762d9-0787-4028-9c16-6c7c0a3a97d1?_phsrc=INL6895&_phstart=successSource
    This is from Vis Berk here is a more accessible link

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Visitation_of_Berkshire_1664_6/6DI6AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=henry+plumpton+anne+osborne&pg=PA76&printsec=frontcover

    I see that all the info. is on WikiTree, so I guess I've cleverly reinvented the wheel ... haa

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sheafe-1

    Note that the dates and locations of the Sheafe-Woodward and Sheafe-Burwell marriages are apparently known.

    The only thing I would question is the statement that Alice Osborne was a widow at the time of her marriage to Dr. Sheafe. (Although could it be possible that she did have a first marriage and was additionally the mother of the wife of Dr. Thomas Sheafe,
    Jr.?)

    Note the following .... "Mr. Doctor Sheafe & Mary his wyfe doe hold One Mannor called Dame Sares in Kensworth conteyning by estymacon 240 acr ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bedfordshire_Notes_and_Queries/n88GAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=dame+%22doctor+sheafe%22&pg=PA347&printsec=frontcover

    It can't be right that this land survey dates, as they claim, from the middle of the 16th century, or "just before 1539."

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Oct 14 12:22:05 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:20:27 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:

    I have linked the Wikipedia articles for Thomas Sheafe and Henry Whitfield together using this information.
    Her sister Anne is from where these Plumpton connections come

    https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/85382149/person/48530889831/media/09e762d9-0787-4028-9c16-6c7c0a3a97d1?_phsrc=INL6895&_phstart=successSource


    This is from Vis Berk here is a more accessible link

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Visitation_of_Berkshire_1664_6/6DI6AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=henry+plumpton+anne+osborne&pg=PA76&printsec=frontcover

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Johnny Brananas on Fri Oct 14 13:06:20 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:53:12 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 3:22:07 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:20:27 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 12:14:15 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:

    I have linked the Wikipedia articles for Thomas Sheafe and Henry Whitfield together using this information.
    Her sister Anne is from where these Plumpton connections come

    https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/85382149/person/48530889831/media/09e762d9-0787-4028-9c16-6c7c0a3a97d1?_phsrc=INL6895&_phstart=successSource
    This is from Vis Berk here is a more accessible link

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Visitation_of_Berkshire_1664_6/6DI6AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=henry+plumpton+anne+osborne&pg=PA76&printsec=frontcover
    I see that all the info. is on WikiTree, so I guess I've cleverly reinvented the wheel ... haa

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sheafe-1

    Note that the dates and locations of the Sheafe-Woodward and Sheafe-Burwell marriages are apparently known.

    The only thing I would question is the statement that Alice Osborne was a widow at the time of her marriage to Dr. Sheafe. (Although could it be possible that she did have a first marriage and was additionally the mother of the wife of Dr. Thomas
    Sheafe, Jr.?)

    Note the following .... "Mr. Doctor Sheafe & Mary his wyfe doe hold One Mannor called Dame Sares in Kensworth conteyning by estymacon 240 acr ..."

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Bedfordshire_Notes_and_Queries/n88GAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=dame+%22doctor+sheafe%22&pg=PA347&printsec=frontcover

    It can't be right that this land survey dates, as they claim, from the middle of the 16th century, or "just before 1539."

    Well not all.
    They don't know that his last wife is the daughter of Andrew Osborne merchant taylor.

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 14 13:24:24 2022
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Oct 14 13:31:59 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:24:25 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:


    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries

    Yes the baptisms were all at St Augustine with St Faith, Watling Street, London And I do also find an "Ales" (sic) 12 Jul 1590

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  • From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Fri Oct 14 13:42:55 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries

    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Sun Oct 16 06:32:21 2022
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.
    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will

    Is this not the same Alice naming her father Henry

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Calendars_of_the_Proceedings_in_Chancery/ByVDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+alice+stratford&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Johnny Brananas on Sun Oct 16 06:29:36 2022
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.

    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Sun Oct 16 07:32:13 2022
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:32:23 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.
    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will
    Is this not the same Alice naming her father Henry

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Calendars_of_the_Proceedings_in_Chancery/ByVDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+alice+stratford&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover

    This must be that same Henry who has a will and prob 1558

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Sun Oct 16 07:35:57 2022
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:32:14 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:32:23 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.
    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will
    Is this not the same Alice naming her father Henry

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Calendars_of_the_Proceedings_in_Chancery/ByVDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+alice+stratford&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover
    This must be that same Henry who has a will and prob 1558

    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stratford-734
    His will does mention "daughters" (unnamed)
    So I suggest that Alice and Susan were those daughters

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  • From JBrand@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Sun Oct 16 08:08:10 2022
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:35:58 AM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:32:14 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:32:23 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.
    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will
    Is this not the same Alice naming her father Henry

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Calendars_of_the_Proceedings_in_Chancery/ByVDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+alice+stratford&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover
    This must be that same Henry who has a will and prob 1558
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stratford-734
    His will does mention "daughters" (unnamed)
    So I suggest that Alice and Susan were those daughters

    So it seems Alice had a line from the Throckmorton family throught her mother, via Tracy and Stratford.

    Son-in-law Pierson might come in through Andrew Osborne's second wife, Margaret Corey, widow of Christopher Corey, scrivener of London:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/London_Marriage_Licences_1521_1869/Xf8cAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22margaret+corey%22+osborne&pg=PA997&printsec=frontcover

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to JBrand on Sun Oct 16 09:55:27 2022
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:08:12 AM UTC-7, JBrand wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:35:58 AM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:32:14 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:32:23 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.
    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will
    Is this not the same Alice naming her father Henry

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Calendars_of_the_Proceedings_in_Chancery/ByVDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+alice+stratford&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover
    This must be that same Henry who has a will and prob 1558
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stratford-734
    His will does mention "daughters" (unnamed)
    So I suggest that Alice and Susan were those daughters
    So it seems Alice had a line from the Throckmorton family throught her mother, via Tracy and Stratford.

    Son-in-law Pierson might come in through Andrew Osborne's second wife, Margaret Corey, widow of Christopher Corey, scrivener of London:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/London_Marriage_Licences_1521_1869/Xf8cAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22margaret+corey%22+osborne&pg=PA997&printsec=frontcover

    This is nice as it gives us that Alice died IN 1597 then

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Sun Oct 16 10:00:27 2022
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:55:29 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:08:12 AM UTC-7, JBrand wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:35:58 AM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:32:14 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:32:23 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.
    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will
    Is this not the same Alice naming her father Henry

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Calendars_of_the_Proceedings_in_Chancery/ByVDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+alice+stratford&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover
    This must be that same Henry who has a will and prob 1558
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stratford-734
    His will does mention "daughters" (unnamed)
    So I suggest that Alice and Susan were those daughters
    So it seems Alice had a line from the Throckmorton family throught her mother, via Tracy and Stratford.

    Son-in-law Pierson might come in through Andrew Osborne's second wife, Margaret Corey, widow of Christopher Corey, scrivener of London:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/London_Marriage_Licences_1521_1869/Xf8cAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22margaret+corey%22+osborne&pg=PA997&printsec=frontcover
    This is nice as it gives us that Alice died IN 1597 then


    And the exact date for the Plumpton marriage already mentioned above

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/London_Marriage_Licences_1521_1869/Xf8cAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=osborne
    See page 1069/1070

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Sun Oct 16 15:25:01 2022
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:00:29 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 9:55:29 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 8:08:12 AM UTC-7, JBrand wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:35:58 AM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 7:32:14 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:32:23 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 1:42:56 PM UTC-7, Johnny Brananas wrote:
    On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 4:24:25 PM UTC-4, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    Andrew does not mention Alice in his will at all

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/wZTckNLtMVEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA131&printsec=frontcover

    but she is so-named on his tombstone inscription

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_New_England_Historical_and_Genealogi/S9KSmB5y9NYC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+st+george&pg=PA191&printsec=frontcover

    That his daughter Anne was *already dead* implies clearly that these two daughters are not the same person

    He names sons John, Edward, Charles.... I wonder if this many names means we can clearly find their baptismal entries
    Yes, I figured that Anne Osborne married Mr. Plumpton and died before her father's will.
    It seems that Alice must be the wife of the other son-in-law Pierson mentioned in Andrew's will
    Is this not the same Alice naming her father Henry

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Calendars_of_the_Proceedings_in_Chancery/ByVDAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=andrew+osborne+alice+stratford&pg=PA284&printsec=frontcover
    This must be that same Henry who has a will and prob 1558
    https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stratford-734
    His will does mention "daughters" (unnamed)
    So I suggest that Alice and Susan were those daughters
    So it seems Alice had a line from the Throckmorton family throught her mother, via Tracy and Stratford.

    Son-in-law Pierson might come in through Andrew Osborne's second wife, Margaret Corey, widow of Christopher Corey, scrivener of London:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/London_Marriage_Licences_1521_1869/Xf8cAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22margaret+corey%22+osborne&pg=PA997&printsec=frontcover
    This is nice as it gives us that Alice died IN 1597 then
    And the exact date for the Plumpton marriage already mentioned above

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/London_Marriage_Licences_1521_1869/Xf8cAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=osborne
    See page 1069/1070

    Since we now see Andrew Osborne stating that he is "aged 50" at this second marriage
    *And* combining this with his will where he states that he was born in Hartlipp, Kent
    I propose that he is identical to this "Andreas" Osborne (a well known version of Andrew) here
    Nat 1548 would fit with his being "About 50" at this marriage


    https://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/sites/default/files/archcant/1863%205%20The%20Visitation%20of%20the%20County%20of%20Kent%20Philipott_6.pdf

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  • From Elizabeth Viney@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 17 19:06:59 2022
    Thank you for all the extra information regarding the fourth wife of Thomas Sheafe. I have updated their wikitree profiles accordingly as well as added some of the other people mentioned in the thread. Cheers, Elizabeth.

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