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  • Revolt Of the "Spare"

    From D. Spencer Hines@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 1 15:01:00 2023
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to D. Spencer Hines on Tue Jan 3 15:35:03 2023
    On 1/1/23 15:01, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas


    I do see: from https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/ottomanempire_1.shtml

    "Fratricide
    Sultan Selim introduced the policy of fratricide (the murder of brothers).

    Under this system whenever a new Sultan ascended to the throne his
    brothers would be locked up. As soon as the Sultan had produced his
    first son the brothers (and their sons) would be killed. The new
    Sultan's sons would be then confined until their father's death and the
    whole system would start again.

    This often meant that dozens of sons would be killed while only one
    would become Sultan.

    In the later centuries of Ottoman rule, the brothers were imprisoned
    rather than executed."

    I am currently unable to find the official Islamic approval
    for killing the "spares"
    An Islamic approval of killing the brothers - The day after the death of
    the Islamic ruler, 13 caskets were delivered to the palace
    The killers with silk ropes to strangle got to even the one
    year olds.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 3 21:58:15 2023
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 3:35:06 PM UTC-8, a425couple wrote:
    On 1/1/23 15:01, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas
    I do see: from https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/ottomanempire_1.shtml

    "Fratricide
    Sultan Selim introduced the policy of fratricide (the murder of brothers).

    Under this system whenever a new Sultan ascended to the throne his
    brothers would be locked up. As soon as the Sultan had produced his
    first son the brothers (and their sons) would be killed. The new
    Sultan's sons would be then confined until their father's death and the whole system would start again.

    This often meant that dozens of sons would be killed while only one
    would become Sultan.

    In the later centuries of Ottoman rule, the brothers were imprisoned
    rather than executed."

    I am currently unable to find the official Islamic approval
    for killing the "spares"
    An Islamic approval of killing the brothers - The day after the death of
    the Islamic ruler, 13 caskets were delivered to the palace
    The killers with silk ropes to strangle got to even the one
    year olds.

    Am I the only one who is reminded of this?:

    - A Royal Deathmatch

    When workers make a new queen, they often make more than one. This gives them the best chance at raising a strong, viable queen. However, there can (typically) only be one queen bee in a hive, so when the new queens hatch they must kill their competitors.
    A newly hatched queen will sting her unhatched rivals, killing them while they are still in their cells. If two queens hatch at once, they must fight to the death.

    https://beekeepinglikeagirl.com/6-things-you-didnt-know-about-queen-bees/#:~:text=A%20Royal%20Deathmatch&text=However%2C%20there%20can%20(typically),must%20fight%20to%20the%20death.

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  • From Tiglath@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 10:47:15 2023
    As we approach the anniversary of the Jan. 6 attack, it’s increasingly amusing to see that the party of insurrection can’t even manage the orderly transfer of power to itself. Rarely does karma play out so neatly.

    McCarthy enjoys Hines-like charisma, it seems.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to D. Spencer Hines on Thu Jan 5 20:25:09 2023
    On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 3:01:02 PM UTC-8, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas

    Am I the only one who gets the impression that Harry was used to being forgiven?

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to D. Spencer Hines on Thu Jan 5 20:35:23 2023
    On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 3:01:02 PM UTC-8, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64179164

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to dsh1602@gmail.com on Sat Jan 7 08:21:41 2023
    On Sun, 1 Jan 2023 15:01:00 -0800 (PST), "D. Spencer Hines"
    <dsh1602@gmail.com> wrote:

    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas

    It's not too late. The Cosa Nostra might be tempted for certain
    favours. Remember Richard III & the two brats in the tower.

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Fri Jan 6 21:54:41 2023
    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 8:25:10 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 3:01:02 PM UTC-8, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas
    Am I the only one who gets the impression that Harry was used to being forgiven?

    https://news.yahoo.com/nothing-ever-prince-harrys-fault-070000344.html

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Fri Jan 6 22:00:22 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 9:54:42 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Thursday, January 5, 2023 at 8:25:10 PM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 3:01:02 PM UTC-8, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas
    Am I the only one who gets the impression that Harry was used to being forgiven?
    https://news.yahoo.com/nothing-ever-prince-harrys-fault-070000344.html

    https://news.yahoo.com/cant-control-us-harry-meghans-150000654.html

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to D. Spencer Hines on Sat Jan 7 20:25:45 2023
    On 1/1/23 15:01, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas

    The idea of 'spare' reminds me of a book I recently got.

    https://www.amazon.com/Secondborn-Amy-Bartol/dp/1477848355

    Secondborn (Secondborn, 1) Paperback – August 1, 2017
    by Amy A. Bartol (Author)
    4.4 out of 5 stars 3,924 ratings
    Book 1 of 3: Secondborn Series
    Editors' pick
    Best Science Fiction & Fantasy

    Paperback
    $11.95
    15 Used from $2.07
    4 New from $11.95

    Firstborns rule society. Secondborns are the property of the government. Thirdborns are not tolerated. Long live the Fates Republic.

    On Transition Day, the second child in every family is taken by the
    government and forced into servitude. Roselle St. Sismode’s eighteenth birthday arrives with harsh realizations: she’s to become a soldier for
    the Fate of Swords military arm of the Republic during the bloodiest
    rebellion in history, and her elite firstborn mother is happy to see her go.

    Televised since her early childhood, Roselle’s privileged upbringing has earned her the resentment of her secondborn peers. Now her decision to
    spare an enemy on the battlefield marks her as a traitor to the state.

    But Roselle finds an ally―and more―in fellow secondborn conscript
    Hawthorne Trugrave. As the consequences of her actions ripple throughout
    the Fates Republic, can Roselle create a destiny of her own? Or will her
    Fate override everything she fights for―even love?

    (On 18th birthday, off as cannon fodder to the war!!!)

    ---------------
    Sheesh, can anyone accept stupid Harry's latest tattle tales,
    big tough combat soldier, gets abused by brother!!
    Sure, tell all to be embarrassed about loss of virginity.
    And a frostbitten dick!!!

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  • From Surreyman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 8 02:39:07 2023
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:25:46 AM UTC, a425couple wrote:
    On 1/1/23 15:01, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas
    The idea of 'spare' reminds me of a book I recently got.

    https://www.amazon.com/Secondborn-Amy-Bartol/dp/1477848355

    Secondborn (Secondborn, 1) Paperback – August 1, 2017
    by Amy A. Bartol (Author)
    4.4 out of 5 stars 3,924 ratings
    Book 1 of 3: Secondborn Series
    Editors' pick
    Best Science Fiction & Fantasy

    Paperback
    $11.95
    15 Used from $2.07
    4 New from $11.95

    Firstborns rule society. Secondborns are the property of the government. Thirdborns are not tolerated. Long live the Fates Republic.

    On Transition Day, the second child in every family is taken by the government and forced into servitude. Roselle St. Sismode’s eighteenth birthday arrives with harsh realizations: she’s to become a soldier for the Fate of Swords military arm of the Republic during the bloodiest rebellion in history, and her elite firstborn mother is happy to see her go.

    Televised since her early childhood, Roselle’s privileged upbringing has earned her the resentment of her secondborn peers. Now her decision to
    spare an enemy on the battlefield marks her as a traitor to the state.

    But Roselle finds an ally―and more―in fellow secondborn conscript Hawthorne Trugrave. As the consequences of her actions ripple throughout
    the Fates Republic, can Roselle create a destiny of her own? Or will her Fate override everything she fights for―even love?

    (On 18th birthday, off as cannon fodder to the war!!!)

    ---------------
    Sheesh, can anyone accept stupid Harry's latest tattle tales,
    big tough combat soldier, gets abused by brother!!
    Sure, tell all to be embarrassed about loss of virginity.
    And a frostbitten dick!!!

    My views tend to be unpopular in the USA and fairly popular in the UK.
    Diana had enough know-how to realise what sort of life she was marrying into (whether or not we regard that life as good or bad), she flunked it badly, tried to milk the publicity wagon and fell off that.
    Hatty's going the same way.
    I've no time for either of them so can the newspapers (and we) just now drop it, and give Harry the privacy he claimed he wanted (which, of course, he would now hate)?

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  • From Surreyman@21:1/5 to Surreyman on Sun Jan 8 02:40:24 2023
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 10:39:08 AM UTC, Surreyman wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:25:46 AM UTC, a425couple wrote:
    On 1/1/23 15:01, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas
    The idea of 'spare' reminds me of a book I recently got.

    https://www.amazon.com/Secondborn-Amy-Bartol/dp/1477848355

    Secondborn (Secondborn, 1) Paperback – August 1, 2017
    by Amy A. Bartol (Author)
    4.4 out of 5 stars 3,924 ratings
    Book 1 of 3: Secondborn Series
    Editors' pick
    Best Science Fiction & Fantasy

    Paperback
    $11.95
    15 Used from $2.07
    4 New from $11.95

    Firstborns rule society. Secondborns are the property of the government. Thirdborns are not tolerated. Long live the Fates Republic.

    On Transition Day, the second child in every family is taken by the government and forced into servitude. Roselle St. Sismode’s eighteenth birthday arrives with harsh realizations: she’s to become a soldier for the Fate of Swords military arm of the Republic during the bloodiest rebellion in history, and her elite firstborn mother is happy to see her go.

    Televised since her early childhood, Roselle’s privileged upbringing has earned her the resentment of her secondborn peers. Now her decision to spare an enemy on the battlefield marks her as a traitor to the state.

    But Roselle finds an ally―and more―in fellow secondborn conscript Hawthorne Trugrave. As the consequences of her actions ripple throughout the Fates Republic, can Roselle create a destiny of her own? Or will her Fate override everything she fights for―even love?

    (On 18th birthday, off as cannon fodder to the war!!!)

    ---------------
    Sheesh, can anyone accept stupid Harry's latest tattle tales,
    big tough combat soldier, gets abused by brother!!
    Sure, tell all to be embarrassed about loss of virginity.
    And a frostbitten dick!!!
    My views tend to be unpopular in the USA and fairly popular in the UK.
    Diana had enough know-how to realise what sort of life she was marrying into (whether or not we regard that life as good or bad), she flunked it badly, tried to milk the publicity wagon and fell off that.
    Hatty's going the same way.
    I've no time for either of them so can the newspapers (and we) just now drop it, and give Harry the privacy he claimed he wanted (which, of course, he would now hate)?

    Sorry - "Harry"!

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  • From D. Spencer Hines@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 8 11:31:56 2023
    There are lots of very intelligent comments above this post. Clear Thinking.

    Yes, Harry is an incredible WHINER...

    Even Megyn Kelly finds Harry's description of the "non-fight" with William, "incredibly emasculating".

    Birth Order is extremely important. Previous Ages had quicker and bloodier solutions to problems with disgruntled younger sons.

    Harry is also incredibly naive -- but cagey.

    He "stupidly" boasts of his killing 25 Talibans and taking those "chess pieces off the board".

    ...Thereby creating an enhanced security hazard for ALL the British Royals.

    Yet he and his wife have been complaining about the unwillingness of the UK to provide "adequate security" for them and their children.

    DSH

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to D. Spencer Hines on Tue Jan 10 22:16:05 2023
    On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 3:01:02 PM UTC-8, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF78ueSD4Qg

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to D. Spencer Hines on Wed Jan 11 09:22:13 2023
    On Sunday, January 1, 2023 at 3:01:02 PM UTC-8, D. Spencer Hines wrote:
    Yes, Harry would definitely be ripe for "plucking" if this were the reign of either Henry II, Henry VII, Henry VIII or Elizabeth I.

    D. Spencer Hines
    Lux et Veritas et Libertas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCOojny1-fM

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