• The Worst Jobs in the Middle Ages

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 24 10:56:43 2024
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    The Worst Jobs in the Middle Ages

    What did medieval people think were the worst jobs you could have? The
    answers will surprise you.

    Other people who have created this kind of list have focused on jobs
    that were particularly dirty – things like gong farmer or rat catcher. However, if we follow the research by the well-known historian Jacques
    Le Goff, we can find an entirely different way of discovering the worst
    jobs. In his book Time, Work, and Culture in the Middle Ages, Le Goff
    details ‘contemptible professions’ – those jobs which medieval people thought were really terrible.

    According to Le Goff, these were the 13 worst jobs in the Middle Ages

    Innkeepers
    Butchers
    Jongleurs
    Mountebanks (scam artists)
    Magicians
    Alchemists
    Doctors
    Surgeons
    Soldiers
    Pimps
    Prostitutes
    Notaries
    Merchants
    Le Goff also created a list of professions that were also somewhat contemptible:

    Fullers, weavers, saddlers, dyers, pastry makers, cobblers, gardeners, painters, fishermen, barbers, bailiffs, game wardens, customs officers, exchange brokers, tailors, perfumers, tripe sellers, and millers.

    Why Some Medieval Jobs Were Considered the Worst
    There were various reasons why these professions were looked down upon,
    many of which stemmed from ancient taboos. For example, butchers,
    doctors, surgeons, and soldiers were condemned because they worked with
    blood (in the case of soldiers, for shedding it, which also violated the “Thou shalt not kill” commandment). There was also a strong taboo
    against handling money, making professions like merchants or exchange
    brokers socially undesirable.

    Some jobs were simply seen as unclean. For Thomas Aquinas, the absolute
    worst profession was a dishwasher. Meanwhile, an 11th-century bishop
    wrote this while praising the work of clerics:

    They are neither butchers nor innkeepers … and know nothing of the
    searing heat of a greasy pot … they are not laundrymen and stoop not to
    boil linen.

    The Role of the Church in Defining Good and Bad Jobs
    Christianity also played a role in defining good and bad professions.
    The Church emphasized that the best work mirrored God’s
    creation—farming, for instance, was highly valued as it involved growing crops. Artisans who transformed raw materials, like blacksmiths, were
    also considered honourable. In contrast, merchants were viewed with
    contempt, as their work involved merely transporting goods and taking
    what was seen as unjust profit.

    Additionally, the Church linked many jobs to sin, which made them
    undesirable. Le Goff explains how certain professions were associated
    with the Seven Deadly Sins:

    Lust, for example, was the basis for condemnation of innkeepers and bathkeepers, whose premises were frequently notorious, as well as
    jongleurs, who incited lascivious and obscene dances, tavern keepers,
    who lived on the sale of the triply damned pleasure of wine, gambling,
    and dance, and even women in the textile trade, who were accused of
    supplying large contingents to prostitution, which must have been at
    least partly true, in view of the miserable wages they received.
    Avarice, or greed, was in a sense the professional sin of both merchants
    and men of the law-lawyers, notaries, judges. The condemnation of
    gluttony naturally led to the condemnation of cooks.

    Tavern scene appears in a 14th-century book on Vices – Britsih Library
    MS Add. 27695, fol. 14
    The Changing Perception of Work in the Later Middle Ages
    Le Goff explains that his list of the worst jobs mainly applies to the
    Early Middle Ages, a time when Western Europe was largely agrarian.
    However, from the ninth to the thirteenth centuries, as cities grew and
    trade expanded, new professions began to emerge. This shift prompted a
    change in medieval writers’ views on work, with increasing emphasis on serving the common good and recognizing the value of labour. As a
    result, many jobs once considered terrible were reassessed. Le Goff writes:

    The case of the merchant is the best known and the most highly charged
    with consequences. Decried for so long, his trade became the object of
    an increasing number of excuses, justifications, and even expressions of respect. Having become classics in scholastic exposes, certain of these
    are well known. They are related to the risks taken by the merchants:
    damages actually sustained, tying up of cash in long-term undertakings,
    hazards of trade. The uncertainties of commercial activity justified the merchant’s profit, even the interest he obtained from the money involved
    in certain transactions and thus, to an ever greater extent, “usury,” hitherto damned.

    Thomas of Chobham, writing in the thirteenth century, echoed this
    changing perspective: “There would be great poverty in many countries if merchants did not bring what abounds in one place to another where these
    same things are lacking. They can therefore justly receive the price of
    their labor.”

    (Yeah to Thomas of Chobham for recognizing the truth!)

    Miniature from the Tale of the Sinful Merchant – the merchant on his
    sickbed refusing the sacrament – British Library MS Yates Thompson 13,
    f.150v
    Even prostitution, long regarded as one of the most condemned and
    illegal professions, saw a degree of defense from some writers. By the
    end of the Middle Ages, many European cities had legalized prostitution,
    though heavily regulated, viewing it as a necessary evil for the greater
    good.

    Old prejudices didn’t entirely disappear—even wealthy butchers, for example, were still looked down upon by society—but by the Late Middle
    Ages, new ideas about work had taken root. With the emergence of many
    new professions (in 1292 Paris, for example, there were 130 regulated
    trades), competition arose over which jobs were more respectable,
    creating complex hierarchies. Le Goff observes:

    Weavers were placed near the bottom of the scale in textiles, but above
    fullers and dyers; cobblers below bootmakers; surgeons and
    barber-apothecaries below medical doctors, who became increasingly
    bookish and were willing to leave practice, which was contemptible, to
    base practitioners.

    By the end of the Middle Ages, a new social hierarchy had emerged: the
    more you worked with your hands, the worse your job was. Meanwhile, the aristocracy and elites, distancing themselves from physical work,
    solidified their status as a privileged class. This shift in attitudes
    toward labor might feel surprisingly familiar to a modern audience.

    To learn more, check out Jacques Le Goff’s book, Time, Work, and Culture
    in the Middle Ages. See also:

    The 5 Most Common Jobs in a Medieval City
    40 Jobs in the Middle Ages
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  • From Daniel@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Fri Dec 27 16:24:55 2024
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    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> writes:

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    The Worst Jobs in the Middle Ages

    Fascinating

    According to Le Goff, these were the 13 worst jobs in the Middle Ages

    Innkeepers
    Butchers
    Jongleurs
    Mountebanks (scam artists)
    Magicians
    Alchemists
    Doctors
    Surgeons
    Soldiers
    Pimps
    Prostitutes

    This one is interesting

    Notaries

    I mean, why? Just a mundane handling of documents.

    Merchant
    Le Goff also created a list of professions that were also somewhat contemptible:

    Fullers, weavers, saddlers, dyers, pastry makers, cobblers, gardeners, painters, fishermen, barbers, bailiffs, game wardens, customs
    officers, exchange brokers, tailors, perfumers, tripe sellers, and
    millers.

    Wide breadth of trades here that were contemptable. Maybe it depended on
    little education? Funny how religion played the major role in acceptance
    in careers - cosidering how the list involved many critical roles in society.

    By the end of the Middle Ages, a new social hierarchy had emerged: the
    more you worked with your hands, the worse your job was. Meanwhile,
    the aristocracy and elites, distancing themselves from physical work, solidified their status as a privileged class. This shift in attitudes
    toward labor might feel surprisingly familiar to a modern audience.

    Especially today where, in the US at least, labor has shifted more to
    the service industry after decades of outsourcing our manufacturing
    sector. Where I live, cobblers are held to high regard.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Daniel on Fri Dec 27 19:26:55 2024
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    On 12/27/24 08:24, Daniel wrote:
    a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> writes:

    from
    https://www.medievalists.net/2024/12/worst-jobs-middle-ages/

    It is best to go to the citation to see the artwork.

    The Worst Jobs in the Middle Ages

    Fascinating

    According to Le Goff, these were the 13 worst jobs in the Middle Ages
    Innkeepers
    Butchers
    Jongleurs
    Mountebanks (scam artists)
    Magicians
    Alchemists
    Doctors
    Surgeons
    Soldiers
    Pimps
    Prostitutes

    This one is interesting

    Notaries

    I mean, why? Just a mundane handling of documents.

    I agree Daniel, I can not understand why that is on the list.

    Merchant
    Le Goff also created a list of professions that were also somewhat
    contemptible:

    Fullers, weavers, saddlers, dyers, pastry makers, cobblers, gardeners,
    painters, fishermen, barbers, bailiffs, game wardens, customs
    officers, exchange brokers, tailors, perfumers, tripe sellers, and
    millers.

    Wide breadth of trades here that were contemptable. Maybe it depended on little education? Funny how religion played the major role in acceptance
    in careers - cosidering how the list involved many critical roles in society.

    By the end of the Middle Ages, a new social hierarchy had emerged: the
    more you worked with your hands, the worse your job was. Meanwhile,
    the aristocracy and elites, distancing themselves from physical work,
    solidified their status as a privileged class. This shift in attitudes
    toward labor might feel surprisingly familiar to a modern audience.

    Especially today where, in the US at least, labor has shifted more to
    the service industry after decades of outsourcing our manufacturing
    sector. Where I live, cobblers are held to high regard.

    Certainly the recent cheap imports and the recent effect of supply
    and demand to raise certain wages has played a role.
    The status and pay of Electricians and Plumbers has indeed risen.

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