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Henry Kissinger tells Ukraine it should give Russia territory to try
to find a peace deal - as Zelensky insists Putin has 'no interest in
talking'

Former US secretary of state told conference that Ukraine should
accept terms

The 98-year-old added if they don't begin negotiations there will be 'upheavals'

He said it would be 'fatal' for the West to get swept up in 'mood of
the moment'

President Zelensky gave speech opening four-day Davos summit in
Switzerland

Summits will become pointless because 'brute force does not talk it
kills,' he said

Russia has been banned from the conference, in latest sign of Putin's
isolation

By LIZZIE MAY and CHRIS PLEASANCE FOR MAILONLINE and AFP
PUBLISHED: 02:14 BST, 24 May 2022 | UPDATED: 07:08 BST, 24 May 2022

Henry Kissinger has said that the West should stop trying to inflict a
crushing defeat on Russia and suggested that Ukraine should give up
territory.

Former US secretary of state Mr Kissinger, 98, told the World Economic
Forum held in Davos, Switzerland that Ukraine must begin negotiations
'before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily
overcome'.

'Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante.
Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of
Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself,' he told the conference
on Monday.

It came as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a powerful
speech to open this week's Davos summit in Switzerland that brute
force will once again rule the world if Russia's invasion of Ukraine
is allowed to go unanswered.

He told delegates that their summit will become pointless if Putin is
allowed to win the war because he is 'not interested in our thoughts'
and 'brute force... does not talk, it kills.'

But Mr Kissinger said it would be 'fatal' for the West to get swept up
in the 'mood of the moment' and forget Russia's position of power
within Europe.

According to The Telegraph, he explained that Russia was an 'essential
part of Europe' for over four centuries, noting that European leaders
must 'not lose sight of the longer term relationship' or otherwise
risk putting Russia in a permanent alliance with China.

He also said: 'I hope the Ukrainians will match the heroism they have
shown with wisdom.'

Volodymyr Zelensky told the meeting that brute force will once again
rule the world if Russia's invasion of Ukraine is allowed to go
unanswered in a powerful speech to open this week's Davos summit in Switzerland.

The Ukrainian President told delegates that their summit will become
pointless if Putin is allowed to win the war because he is 'not
interested in our thoughts' and 'brute force... does not talk, it
kills.'

Zelensky's speech came at the start of four days of talks during which
Ukraine is expected to launch a global charm offensive in order to
secure economic and military backing to ensure its survival.

Russia will not be at the Davos meeting this year after organisers
banned Moscow from sending a delegation in just the latest signal of
how isolated Putin has become on the world stage.

'The main theme for this year's Davos {summit} is: 'History at a
Turning Point'', Zelensky told a packed auditorium on Monday morning.

'This year, the words 'turning point' are more than a rhetorical
talking point. This year is really the year when it is decided whether
brute force will rule the world.

'If so, the powerful are not interested in our thoughts and there is
no further use for meeting in Davos.

'Brute force seeks nothing but the subjugation of those who it seeks
to subdue and it does not talk, it kills, as Russia does in Ukraine
just as we speak today.

Recalling the horrors of Russia's invasion to date, Zelesnky added:
'Instead of peaceful cities there are only black ruins, instead of
normal trade [there are] seas full of mines and blocked ports, instead
of tourists [there are] closed skies and the sound of Russian bombs
and cruise missiles.

'This is what the world would look like if that turning moment does
not have a proper response from humanity, it would resemble a large
set of war crimes.'


President Zelensky tells global elite gathered in Davos...

Zelensky's speech came at the start of four days of talks during which
Ukraine is expected to launch a global charm offensive in order to
secure economic and military backing to ensure its survival

Zelensky also pointed to Russia House - a conference venue in the city
which typically hosts the delegation - which this year has been turned
into 'Russian war crimes house.'

He said this is an example of 'what Russia brings to the world', while
urging leaders to condemn the atrocities.

German vice-chancellor Robert Habeck had an angry outburst at the
summit while accusing Hungary and various other uncooperative
countries of stopping attempts of an oil embargo by the EU. 'We are
seeing the worst of Europe,' he said.

Russia has faced serious economic sanctions since their invasion of
Ukraine on 24 February, with the nation now facing a food and energy
crisis.

Mr Habeck said: 'I expect everyone to work to find a solution, and not
to sit back and work on building their partnership with Putin.'

The vice-chancellor who is also the country's economy minister, added
that Germany is 'ready to endure the shock' of a Russian oil imports
cut-off.

Energy minister for India Shri Hardeep Pury, when suggestions were
made that his country should stop in its business with buying Russian
oil, said: 'The Europeans buy more Russian energy in an afternoon than
we do in a quarter.'


WEF founder Klaus Schwab said last week that Davos would do what it
can to support Ukraine and its recovery.

'Russia's aggression on the country will be seen in future history
books as the breakdown of the post-World War II and post-Cold War
order,' he said.

More than 50 heads of state or government will be among the 2,500
delegates, ranging from business leaders to academics and civil
society figures.

Some of the biggest names include Germany's new chancellor, Olaf
Scholz, European Union chief Ursula von der Leyen, NATO head Jens
Stoltenberg and US climate envoy John Kerry.

While the summit is back, it lacks its usual snowy backdrop as the
Omicron variant forced this year's January meeting to be postponed
until now. Instead, rain is forecast all week.

Climate change and concerns about the economic recovery from the
pandemic are also at the forefront of the Davos talks.

Inflation has become a major concern as energy and food prices have
soared further since Russia invaded Ukraine, raising fears of hunger
in countries dependent on wheat from the region.

Global charity Oxfam warned Monday that 263 million people could sink
into extreme poverty this year, at a rate of one million every 33
hours.

By contrast, 573 new billionaires have emerged during the pandemic, or
one every 30 hours, Oxfam said as it called for taxes on the rich.

'Billionaires are arriving in Davos to celebrate an incredible surge
in their fortunes,' Oxfam executive director Gabriela Bucher said in a statement.

'The pandemic and now the steep increases in food and energy prices
have, simply put, been a bonanza for them,' Bucher said.

'Meanwhile, decades of progress on extreme poverty are now in reverse
and millions of people are facing impossible rises in the cost of
simply staying alive,' she said.

Source: <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847579/Henry-Kissinger-tells-global-elite-gathered-Davos-Ukraine-Russia-territory.html>
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On 5/24/22 10:56 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:

Henry Kissinger tells Ukraine it should give Russia territory to try
to find a peace deal - as Zelensky insists Putin has 'no interest in
talking'

Former US secretary of state told conference that Ukraine should
accept terms

The 98-year-old added if they don't begin negotiations there will be 'upheavals'

He said it would be 'fatal' for the West to get swept up in 'mood of
the moment'

President Zelensky gave speech opening four-day Davos summit in
Switzerland

Summits will become pointless because 'brute force does not talk it
kills,' he said

Russia has been banned from the conference, in latest sign of Putin's isolation

By LIZZIE MAY and CHRIS PLEASANCE FOR MAILONLINE and AFP
PUBLISHED: 02:14 BST, 24 May 2022 | UPDATED: 07:08 BST, 24 May 2022

Henry Kissinger has said that the West should stop trying to inflict a crushing defeat on Russia and suggested that Ukraine should give up territory.

Former US secretary of state Mr Kissinger, 98, told the World Economic
Forum held in Davos, Switzerland that Ukraine must begin negotiations
'before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily
overcome'.

'Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante. Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of
Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself,' he told the conference
on Monday.

It came as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a powerful
speech to open this week's Davos summit in Switzerland that brute
force will once again rule the world if Russia's invasion of Ukraine
is allowed to go unanswered.

He told delegates that their summit will become pointless if Putin is
allowed to win the war because he is 'not interested in our thoughts'
and 'brute force... does not talk, it kills.'

But Mr Kissinger said it would be 'fatal' for the West to get swept up
in the 'mood of the moment' and forget Russia's position of power
within Europe.

According to The Telegraph, he explained that Russia was an 'essential
part of Europe' for over four centuries, noting that European leaders
must 'not lose sight of the longer term relationship' or otherwise
risk putting Russia in a permanent alliance with China.

He also said: 'I hope the Ukrainians will match the heroism they have
shown with wisdom.'

Volodymyr Zelensky told the meeting that brute force will once again
rule the world if Russia's invasion of Ukraine is allowed to go
unanswered in a powerful speech to open this week's Davos summit in Switzerland.

The Ukrainian President told delegates that their summit will become pointless if Putin is allowed to win the war because he is 'not
interested in our thoughts' and 'brute force... does not talk, it
kills.'

Zelensky's speech came at the start of four days of talks during which Ukraine is expected to launch a global charm offensive in order to
secure economic and military backing to ensure its survival.

Russia will not be at the Davos meeting this year after organisers
banned Moscow from sending a delegation in just the latest signal of
how isolated Putin has become on the world stage.

'The main theme for this year's Davos {summit} is: 'History at a
Turning Point'', Zelensky told a packed auditorium on Monday morning.

'This year, the words 'turning point' are more than a rhetorical
talking point. This year is really the year when it is decided whether
brute force will rule the world.

'If so, the powerful are not interested in our thoughts and there is
no further use for meeting in Davos.

'Brute force seeks nothing but the subjugation of those who it seeks
to subdue and it does not talk, it kills, as Russia does in Ukraine
just as we speak today.

Recalling the horrors of Russia's invasion to date, Zelesnky added:
'Instead of peaceful cities there are only black ruins, instead of
normal trade [there are] seas full of mines and blocked ports, instead
of tourists [there are] closed skies and the sound of Russian bombs
and cruise missiles.

'This is what the world would look like if that turning moment does
not have a proper response from humanity, it would resemble a large
set of war crimes.'

President Zelensky tells global elite gathered in Davos...

Zelensky's speech came at the start of four days of talks during which Ukraine is expected to launch a global charm offensive in order to
secure economic and military backing to ensure its survival

Zelensky also pointed to Russia House - a conference venue in the city
which typically hosts the delegation - which this year has been turned
into 'Russian war crimes house.'

He said this is an example of 'what Russia brings to the world', while
urging leaders to condemn the atrocities.

German vice-chancellor Robert Habeck had an angry outburst at the
summit while accusing Hungary and various other uncooperative
countries of stopping attempts of an oil embargo by the EU. 'We are
seeing the worst of Europe,' he said.

Russia has faced serious economic sanctions since their invasion of
Ukraine on 24 February, with the nation now facing a food and energy
crisis.

Mr Habeck said: 'I expect everyone to work to find a solution, and not
to sit back and work on building their partnership with Putin.'

The vice-chancellor who is also the country's economy minister, added
that Germany is 'ready to endure the shock' of a Russian oil imports
cut-off.

Energy minister for India Shri Hardeep Pury, when suggestions were
made that his country should stop in its business with buying Russian
oil, said: 'The Europeans buy more Russian energy in an afternoon than
we do in a quarter.'

WEF founder Klaus Schwab said last week that Davos would do what it
can to support Ukraine and its recovery.

'Russia's aggression on the country will be seen in future history
books as the breakdown of the post-World War II and post-Cold War
order,' he said.

More than 50 heads of state or government will be among the 2,500
delegates, ranging from business leaders to academics and civil
society figures.

Some of the biggest names include Germany's new chancellor, Olaf
Scholz, European Union chief Ursula von der Leyen, NATO head Jens
Stoltenberg and US climate envoy John Kerry.

While the summit is back, it lacks its usual snowy backdrop as the
Omicron variant forced this year's January meeting to be postponed
until now. Instead, rain is forecast all week.

Climate change and concerns about the economic recovery from the
pandemic are also at the forefront of the Davos talks.

Inflation has become a major concern as energy and food prices have
soared further since Russia invaded Ukraine, raising fears of hunger
in countries dependent on wheat from the region.

Global charity Oxfam warned Monday that 263 million people could sink
into extreme poverty this year, at a rate of one million every 33
hours.

By contrast, 573 new billionaires have emerged during the pandemic, or
one every 30 hours, Oxfam said as it called for taxes on the rich.

'Billionaires are arriving in Davos to celebrate an incredible surge
in their fortunes,' Oxfam executive director Gabriela Bucher said in a statement.

'The pandemic and now the steep increases in food and energy prices
have, simply put, been a bonanza for them,' Bucher said.

'Meanwhile, decades of progress on extreme poverty are now in reverse
and millions of people are facing impossible rises in the cost of
simply staying alive,' she said.

Source: <https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847579/Henry-Kissinger-tells-global-elite-gathered-Davos-Ukraine-Russia-territory.html>
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https://t.co/mxXJjjkHAD

Kissinger is still alive ???

In any case, Ukraine DID "give" Russia territory some
years ago - Crimea, chunks of northeastern Ukraine.
Just served as a launching pad for the NEW invasion.

Putin is NOT going to be appeased - he thinks he has
a Mission From God (or Stalin). He's gotten old and
sick and WANTS a "legacy" no matter what the cost.

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On Wed, 25 May 2022 04:56:17 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

Henry Kissinger tells Ukraine it should give Russia territory to try
to find a peace deal - as Zelensky insists Putin has 'no interest in
talking'

Former US secretary of state told conference that Ukraine should
accept terms

Henry Kissinger, Noam Chomsky Find Rare Common Ground Over Ukraine War
Andrew Stanton 10 hrs ago

Henry Kissinger and Noam Chomsky, longtime political enemies, have
found rare common ground over the Russia-Ukraine war.

Henry Kissinger and Noam Chomsky, longtime political enemies, have
found common ground amid the Russia-Ukraine war. Above, a split photo
of Kissinger (left) and Chomsky (right).© Adam Berry/Getty Images and
Heuler Andrey/AFP Henry Kissinger and Noam Chomsky, longtime political
enemies, have found common ground amid the Russia-Ukraine war. Above,
a split photo of Kissinger (left) and Chomsky (right).
The two come from opposing ends of the political spectrum—Kissinger
serving as secretary of state under Republican presidents and Chomsky
one of the leading left-wing intellectuals in the United States—and
have frequently clashed.


But when it comes to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, both recently
advocated for Ukraine to consider a settlement that could see it
dropping claim to some land to achieve a quicker peace deal.

While speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on
Monday, Kissinger, who was secretary of state for presidents Richard
Nixon and Gerald Ford in the 1970s, encouraged Ukraine to accept a
peace deal with Russia to end the war.

He said negotiations should begin in the next two months before the
conflict "creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily
overcome."

He advised European leaders to consider their long-term relationship
with Russia and that they should not risk further strengthening the
bond between the Kremlin and China—one of its strongest allies amid
the invasion—according to the Telegraph.

"Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo
ante," Kissinger said. "Pursuing the war beyond that point would not
be about the freedom of Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself."

In 2014, Russia annexed the region of Crimea, while separatists
declared the regions of Donetsk Oblast and Luhansk to be independent.
A return to the "status quo ante" would leave these regions as they
were before the invasion.

He added that he hopes "the Ukrainians will match the heroism they
have shown with wisdom."

In an interview with British journalist Owen Jones this month,
Chomsky, a left-wing political philosopher and Massachusetts Institute
of Technology professor known for his anti-war views, made critical
remarks about the Western response to the conflict, calling out what
he views as a "Western propaganda system" pushing the idea Ukrainians
want more weapons.

He said that while he isn't opposed to sending arms to Ukraine, so
long as it's done under genuine concern for Ukrainians, it must be
done in "a way which will not escalate the Russian attack and can
lead, of course, to the destruction of Ukraine."

Chomsky described the possibility of a "pretty sensible settlement" in
which Ukraine would commit itself to neutralization, not joining the
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), put off the issue of Crimea
and "move toward some kind of accommodation on Donbas."

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U.S. Won’t Dictate ‘End State’ Of Russian Invasion: It's 'Ukraine’s Fight’
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He went on to criticize the U.S. and U.K. for not backing such a
proposal. However, on Monday, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said
that Ukraine—not the United States or NATO—has the authority to
dictate the end of the war.

Read it all here:

<https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/henry-kissinger-noam-chomsky-find-rare-common-ground-over-ukraine-war/ar-AAXFDq2>

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