• United Nations Day

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 01:29:26 2023
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    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 02:01:34 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc

    On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
    (in article<3hCdnStjh9R42ar4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

    On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

    The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
    people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
    maniacs and fanatics.

    It should be disbanded instantly for the good
    of humanity.

    The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
    interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....

    As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
    Nothing to do with a "UN".

    The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
    the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
    of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
    to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
    ideas" .....

    I think there may be a way to repair the UN rather than
    trashing it.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "But you come around in your time; Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis; Dries up as soon as you're gone; You leave me
    here burning in this desert without you" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 02:35:01 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc XPost: alt.activism, alt.atheism

    On Oct 24, 2023, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2AE7789E005B1A65700008EA738F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

    I think it is also about the same phase as Yom Kippur,
    the Jewish Day of Atonement, though not the same
    lunar month.

    --
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    create an oasis; Dries up as soon as you're gone; You leave me
    here burning in this desert without you" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From 56d.1152@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Oct 24 00:15:33 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc

    On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)


    The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
    people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
    maniacs and fanatics.

    It should be disbanded instantly for the good
    of humanity.

    The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
    interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....

    As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
    Nothing to do with a "UN".

    The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
    the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
    of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
    to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
    ideas" .....

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 05:08:09 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc XPost: alt.activism, alt.atheism

    On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
    (in article<uQydne_Ed4WY7Kr4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

    On 10/24/23 12:31 AM, David Dalton wrote:
    On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
    (in article<3hCdnStjh9R42ar4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

    On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

    The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
    people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
    maniacs and fanatics.

    It should be disbanded instantly for the good
    of humanity.

    The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
    interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....

    As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
    Nothing to do with a "UN".

    The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
    the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
    of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
    to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
    ideas" .....

    I think there may be a way to repair the UN rather than
    trashing it.

    Start listing ... it's PAST time. Make sure it
    can actually WORK when a large percentage are
    dictators/depots/maniacs.

    There IS a "better way", something that's actually
    better for The People, everywhere. The USA model
    is very good, but maybe not the ONLY paradigm that
    has to be included.

    Alas, for now, we're stuck with a UN that seems
    very little concerned with serious, genocidal,
    terrorism and instead dwells on issues that
    PREVENT dealing with terrorism/terrorists/
    genocidalidalists.

    People SORT OF get options in picking/guiding
    their leaders. Gaza ... well ... they put all
    their money behind Hamas/terrorism. This has
    been the case for a LONG TIME. As such, I feel
    they are COMPLICIT in whatever Hamas might do.

    Hamas has been terroristic for DECADES. It was
    the reason "IronDome" was developed. Death To
    All Jews is their mantra.

    Hamas doesn't give a fucking shit what happens
    to their 'citizens' beyond the propaganda
    possibilities. This is NOT a good thing. Now
    it's all gone very very bad. Thousands, maybe
    tens of thousands, of their "citizens" are
    about to die because of Hamas fanaticism.

    Perhaps get rid of the Security Council and their vetos
    for starters.

    --
    https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) "But you come around in your time; Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis; Dries up as soon as you're gone; You leave me
    here burning in this desert without you" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From 56d.1152@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Oct 24 03:23:48 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc

    On 10/24/23 12:31 AM, David Dalton wrote:
    On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
    (in article<3hCdnStjh9R42ar4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

    On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

    The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
    people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
    maniacs and fanatics.

    It should be disbanded instantly for the good
    of humanity.

    The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
    interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....

    As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
    Nothing to do with a "UN".

    The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
    the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
    of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
    to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
    ideas" .....

    I think there may be a way to repair the UN rather than
    trashing it.


    Start listing ... it's PAST time. Make sure it
    can actually WORK when a large percentage are
    dictators/depots/maniacs.

    There IS a "better way", something that's actually
    better for The People, everywhere. The USA model
    is very good, but maybe not the ONLY paradigm that
    has to be included.

    Alas, for now, we're stuck with a UN that seems
    very little concerned with serious, genocidal,
    terrorism and instead dwells on issues that
    PREVENT dealing with terrorism/terrorists/
    genocidalidalists.

    People SORT OF get options in picking/guiding
    their leaders. Gaza ... well ... they put all
    their money behind Hamas/terrorism. This has
    been the case for a LONG TIME. As such, I feel
    they are COMPLICIT in whatever Hamas might do.

    Hamas has been terroristic for DECADES. It was
    the reason "IronDome" was developed. Death To
    All Jews is their mantra.

    Hamas doesn't give a fucking shit what happens
    to their 'citizens' beyond the propaganda
    possibilities. This is NOT a good thing. Now
    it's all gone very very bad. Thousands, maybe
    tens of thousands, of their "citizens" are
    about to die because of Hamas fanaticism.

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  • From 56d.1152@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue Oct 24 20:43:46 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc XPost: alt.activism

    On 10/24/23 3:38 AM, David Dalton wrote:
    On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
    (in article<uQydne_Ed4WY7Kr4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

    On 10/24/23 12:31 AM, David Dalton wrote:
    On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
    (in article<3hCdnStjh9R42ar4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

    On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

    The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
    people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
    maniacs and fanatics.

    It should be disbanded instantly for the good
    of humanity.

    The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
    interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....

    As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
    Nothing to do with a "UN".

    The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
    the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
    of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
    to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
    ideas" .....

    I think there may be a way to repair the UN rather than
    trashing it.

    Start listing ... it's PAST time. Make sure it
    can actually WORK when a large percentage are
    dictators/depots/maniacs.

    There IS a "better way", something that's actually
    better for The People, everywhere. The USA model
    is very good, but maybe not the ONLY paradigm that
    has to be included.

    Alas, for now, we're stuck with a UN that seems
    very little concerned with serious, genocidal,
    terrorism and instead dwells on issues that
    PREVENT dealing with terrorism/terrorists/
    genocidalidalists.

    People SORT OF get options in picking/guiding
    their leaders. Gaza ... well ... they put all
    their money behind Hamas/terrorism. This has
    been the case for a LONG TIME. As such, I feel
    they are COMPLICIT in whatever Hamas might do.

    Hamas has been terroristic for DECADES. It was
    the reason "IronDome" was developed. Death To
    All Jews is their mantra.

    Hamas doesn't give a fucking shit what happens
    to their 'citizens' beyond the propaganda
    possibilities. This is NOT a good thing. Now
    it's all gone very very bad. Thousands, maybe
    tens of thousands, of their "citizens" are
    about to die because of Hamas fanaticism.

    Perhaps get rid of the Security Council and their vetos
    for starters.


    The "Security Council" is a cold-war artifact for
    the most part, "elitist" too. Russia wouldn't play
    if it could not block the USA and vice-versa.

    However the general membership is pretty damned bad
    of late - far too many countries run by the worst of
    the worst and/or those just hoping to scam some cash
    by making customized UN edicts.

    IMHO, it does not serve its intended purpose. Never
    really did, at least not well. Now - flush it.

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  • From nospam@nospam.org@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sat Dec 16 17:21:33 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc

    On Tue, 24 Oct 2023, David Dalton wrote:

    On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
    (in article<3hCdnStjh9R42ar4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

    On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
    October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
    of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

    It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
    or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
    at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

    The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
    people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
    maniacs and fanatics.

    It should be disbanded instantly for the good
    of humanity.

    The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
    interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....

    As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
    Nothing to do with a "UN".

    The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
    the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
    of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
    to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
    ideas" .....

    I think there may be a way to repair the UN rather than
    trashing it.


    No, I think it is rotten to the core. Corruption is rampant, there is no accountability and it is mostly used as a retirement day care center for
    old politicians who get a cozy UN job as a a thank you for being loyal
    with the state and their party.

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