• ASA story - The aristocratic hangman (5/6)

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    3. The face is sometimes pale, but is more often congested and swollen especially in those who have been long suspended. On this point
    Esquirol,' Fleichman,1 and Ollivier* (d'Angers) have offered
    explanations, which Tardieu justly considers in great part theoretical.
    (Case 3.)

    In twenty-one of Dr. Ogston's forty cases of hanging (= 52.5 per cent.)
    the features were calm and placid. In one (a suicide) the expression was anxious, and the eyeballs prominent.
    In one case, the external auditory canals were recorded as full of blood.

    4. The tongue. Dr. Taylor says that in hanging the tongue is enlarged
    and livid, and either protruding or compressed between the teeth. Dr.
    Guy also speaks of the swollen state of the base of the tongue, as
    affording a strong probability of suspension during life. Dr. Chevers
    and Dr. Beatson have not noticed protrusion of the tongue in hanging
    except as a result of putrefaction, but Dr. Chevers remarks on the base
    of the tongue and of the glottis being invariably of a violet livid hue.
    (Case 3.)
    In 14 of Dr. Ogston's cases (= 35 per cent.), and in 11 out of 27 of
    Devergie's cases, the tongue was either protruded or marked by the teeth.

    This protrusion of the tongue is entirely independent of the position of
    the cord.

    5. The pupils are nearly always dilated, and the eyes staring and
    prominent. (Cases 3 and 37.)
    In thirty nine of Dr. Ogston's cases (= 97.5 per cent.) the pupils
    weredilated, and in only one contracted.

    6. It is generally stated that blood-stained froth is to be found about
    the nose and lips. Dr. Ogston, however, found froth at the lips in 3
    only of his 40 cases, and at the nostrils in but one. (Case 3.)

    7. The hands vary in position like the head. The fists are often closed
    so tightly that the finger nails penetrate the palms. ( Case 6.) This is specially noticeable where the hanging has been violently effected. But
    in incomplete hanging (that is where the feet are not off the ground),
    the hands may be stretched out, or rest open on the ground.

    The legs also vary in position. They generally present a livid appearance.

    8. The neck in nearly all cases appears stretched, and will probably
    exhibit marks of the ligature employed. Probably, we say, for if the
    hanging be very brief, and the ligature very soft and supple, and the
    body be instantly cut down after death, there may be no mark of a
    ligature at all. Dr. Allison, in a paper in the " Lancet," 1869, i., p.
    636, contends that the track of the cord is a purely cadaveric
    phenomenon, and that its diagnostic value is very questionable. Although
    in our own experience it is true that the mark is more or less
    independent of the ligature and of the duration of the suspension, and
    that it does not ordinarily acquire its colour for some hours after
    death, it is certain that at times it does occur within a comparatively
    short period. (" Edin. Med. Journ." i., p. 299.)

    A Textbook of Legal Medicine (1905)

    We may, with Tidy, divide the phenomena of hanging into three stages.
    First Stage.-There is partial loss of consciousness, with stupor. The subjective initial symptoms described by those who have been
    resuscitated are an intense heat in the head; brilliant flashes of light
    in the eyes; deafening sounds in the ears; and a heavy, benumbed feeling
    in the lungs. In many cases ineffectual efforts to breathe are made
    after the air passages are closed. These several symptoms belong to
    those cases in which the death is not instantaneous through injury of
    the spinal cord in the neck. This primary stage may last from thirty
    seconds to three minutes..

    Second Stage.-The person suspended is entirely unconscious, and
    convulsions usually occur, although these may be wholly lacking. Urine,
    feces, and semen are expelled at times in this stage, if at all. The
    hands are clenched. The diaphragm and intercostal muscles act
    spasmodically. The muscles of the face are contracted in sympathy with
    the general spasm, and a twitching of the lower limbs is also observed.

    It is a common and popular belief that pleasurable erotic sensations are experienced by those who die by hanging. This is a mistaken view. The
    ground for this error is found in the post-mortem condition of the
    sexual organs, which are sometimes observed to be more or less turgid in
    cases of hanging; the penis is erect and shows a discharge of a
    mucilaginous fluid more likely to be prostatic than seminal; and in the
    female the clitoris is found swollen, and the adjacent parts are injected.

    These appearances, however, are far from proving that sexual sensations correspond on the part of the person suspended. There is entire lack of authentic observations to demonstrate this relationship. In cases of resuscitation after suspension, and timely rescue, there is no record of
    the erotic symptoms referred to. And no one so restored has avowed such sensations as a part of his experience during the suspension.

    Third Stage.-The only remaining sign of life which marks this stage is
    the continued beating of the heart. This persistent action of the heart
    has been observed long after death has closed the scene otherwise. As a
    rule, the pulse may be felt for ten minutes after the drop in a judicial hanging. But there are many extraordinary exceptions. Blankcnsip reports
    an execution by hanging. Death was by strangulation ; the neck was not dislocated. The pulse beat once in the nineteenth minute. Tardieu
    reports a case in which the heart was found beating at the rate of 80
    per minute, an hour and a half after the supposed death of the man by suspension.

    A case occurred in Boston, in 1858, which attracted much attention. A
    condemned murderer, named Magee, twentyeight years old, weighing 130
    pounds, was executed by hanging. The drop was from seven to eight feet.
    There was no struggle or convulsion. Seven minutes after the drop, the
    cardiac impulses numbered 100; at nine minutes, they were 98 ; at twelve minutes, they were 60 (fainter); at fourteen minutes, the heart-beats
    were not audible and the body was lowered. At the autopsy, a little over
    an hour after the drop fell, the right sternomastoid muscle was found
    torn ; the hyoid bone was fractured, but the spine was not injured.
    Ninety minutes after the hanging, the heart was beating 80. The thorax
    was opened, and the heart was exposed. The right auricle showed full and regular contractions and dilatations. The spinal cord was divided by the pathologist, yet the heart persisted. Two hours after the drop the
    heart-beats numbered 40. The pulsations of the right auricle continued
    at intervals for three hours and a half longer. They were readily
    excited by the scalpel point. The heart was normal in structure.

    The duration of the suspension sufficient to cause fatal results-that is
    to say, the minimum time within which death follows under this condition
    of things-has been found to offer considerable variety, on account of
    the diversity of the data.

    Averaging results, we may say that resuscitation is not to be expected
    when a body is cut down after five minutes' full suspension. The
    extremes stated in the books extend from a second or two at one end to
    half an hour at the other, although one finds difficulty in recognizing
    under what possible circumstances a true suspension for thirty minutes
    could occur with survival at the end. It is not difficult, however, to understand that actual differences in the time may be explained quite
    readily.

    For example, the situation of the noose may not be such as absolutely to annihilate respiration. There will be some difference in effects whether
    the ligature tightens above, below, or across the thyroid. Then the
    length of the fall, the weight of the person, his strength, natural
    vigor, and power of resistance are important considerations.
    Instantaneous death in hanging is determined by the damage done to the
    spinal cord. This result is most frequently seen in judicial executions,
    in some of which decapitation by the rope is accomplished unexpectedly,
    the head being torn off Louis made the observation that this
    instantaneousness of death was most readily brought about if the
    executioner gave the body of the condemned a violent twist when the body dropped, thus fracturing the odontoid process-dislocating the upper
    cervical vertebra -and either compressing, bruising, or stretching the
    spinal cord in its upper and most sensitive region. Dislocation of the
    spine is most apt to occur in those cases in which the knot is placed anteriorly under the chin.

    Putnam's Magazine, 1869

    The theory of hanging is, that the neck of the culprit should be broken;
    and it is stated by competent surgical authority that, if this be done successfully, the second cervical vertebra is dislocated, its odontoid
    process rupturing the transverse ligament of the atlas (the first bone
    of the neck which sustains the globe of the head), and compressing the
    spinal cord against the posterior arch of the vertebra. The cord is here
    just expanding into the medulla oblongata, wherein is situated the
    ganglion that presides over respiration. Its compression stops
    respiration at once by stopping all desire for it; and death in such
    case would be immediate and probably jminless.

    But in hanging, as ^practised, the second vertebra often is only
    partially dislocated, or not affected at all, and death takes place
    either from slow and painful suffocation,-the victim getting just air
    enough through the half-closed windpipe to prolong his struggles,-or
    from apoplexy following the sudden cerebral congestion which is caused
    both by the suffocation and by the pressure of the rope upon the great
    veins of the neck.

    I do not hesitate to assert, from the facts in my possession, that in at
    least sixty per cent, of reported cases, in spite of every precaution,
    the neck has not been broken* The sufferers have slowly and in torment
    choked to death, frequently with such hard breathing, groans, and
    contortions, as to drive the witnesses from the dreadful scene. I will
    only quote from reports of one or two representative cases, but will
    name a few others, of which the details are too harrowing for
    republication here.

    James Stephens, convicted, on circumstantial evidence, of wife-poisoning
    (and still believed by his spiritual advisers to have been innocent),
    was hanged in New York, Feb. 3, 1860. Most careful preparations were
    made by the sheriff, but the hangman blundered, and Stephens was
    subjected to great suffering. For many minutes his hard breathing was
    frightful to listen to.-On the 12th of January, 1866, Marschall and
    Frecke were hanged at Pittsburgh, Pa. Frecke's neck was not broken, and
    he " died horribly of strangulation. His struggles were terrible and long-continued."

    One week afterwards, Mrs. Martha Grinder, the confessed poisoncss, was
    executed upon the same gallows for the murder of her last victim,-Mrs. Caruthers. She also suffered terrible and prolonged agonies. An unusual incident of the death-scene is reported by several witnesses: "The rope
    slipped her cap partially from her face, and, while hanging at the
    halter's end, by a mighty effort she put up one of her hands
    sufficiently to draw it down again over her distorted features, thus,"
    says the inductive reporter, "in death asserting the native modesty of
    woman. She struggled fearfully, and twelve minutes elapsed before her death.''''

    The question whether sensation, reflection, arrfl mental horror
    accompany the physical contortions of those perishing by strangulation,
    is fairly settled by such a fact as this, and by the conduct of many who
    have committed suicide. Examples are common of unfortunates who have
    fastened a noose around the neck and kicked away the support beneath
    their feet, but who, finding the tortures of strangulation greater than
    they had conceived, have repented, and made desperate efforts to regain
    their footing.

    At a meeting of the N. Y. Medico-Legal Society, held since this article
    was prepared. Dr. Finncll stated that he " had carefully examined the
    corpses of culprits, but had never as yet satisfied himself

    that death occurred in any other way thnn by strangulation,
    notwithstanding the newspaper reports to the contrary." Dr. Chadsey
    expressed the same opinion.

    Alexander B. Wiley, hanged at Wilkesbarre, Pa., March 21st, 1867; Hiram
    Coon, hanged on the following day, at Troy, N. Y.; Jeremiah O. Brown,
    hanged at "The Tombs," Aug. 9th, 1867; and Sylvester Quiller, hanged at Elizabeth, N. J., on the ensuing 14th of November;-all died in great and prolonged agony, of strangulation. The reports of the last case are
    especially poignant. Yet the State of New Jersey, so loyal in
    maintenance of good old customs, has achieved reputation for the
    consistency with which her murderers are brought to execution. One would suppose that within her borders, at least, the hangman had mastered his art.

    During the year 1888, a kind of professional demoralization has affected
    the Jack Ketches of this country and England. Whether surfeited with
    success, or disgusted with their calling, 'tis evident they no longer
    practise hanging with that enthusiasm and devotion to details required
    by the connoisseurs of this humanizing art. We, "the latest seed of
    Time," take little vantage over ruder generations in the adjustment of
    the noose, the scientific involution of the knot, the adequate balance
    of the fatal weights. The record of the past year, in fact, is not
    creditable to the talent of our own and neighboring States. Even in
    Newgate, that venerable Academy, the hand of the master seems to have
    lost its cunning: the great Calcraft is blundering like any callow
    neophyte of our backwoods school.

    Thomas Walsh, a boy of 19, hanged at Newark, N. J., January 2d, 1868;
    Rufus Ludwig, hanged at Salisbury, N. C, on the 26th of June; John
    Kennedy, hanged at Canton, N. Y., on the 20th of August; and Harrison
    Young, hanged at Warwick C. H., Va., on the 25th of August;-were all
    slowly tortured to death. There is no other name for it The accounts are
    full and trustworthy. Ludwig's execution was one of those old-fashioned
    outdoor festivals which brought together a larger crowd than ever
    attended a barbacuc or circus in that region. He made a desperate and
    dramatic fight for his life, at the last moment. In Young's case the
    rope broke, and some time elapsed before he was strung up again and more efficiently.

    The following month of September brought with it those contending
    horrors still fresh in the public mind, Old England and New rivalling
    each other in homicidal punishment and prevention of the crime of
    homicide; and bungling work they made of it-as all magnanimous people
    bungle in the commission of such wretched and mistaken deeds! On the
    8th, the first private execution at London was carried to effect within
    the walls of Newgate. Alexander Mackay, aged only 18 years, was hanged
    for the murder of Mrs. Grossmith. The London journals commented
    approvingly upon the aspect of Newgate, as contrasted with what it used
    to be when executions were public. The Times reported:

    "There was no uproar, there were no barriers, and, above all, there was
    no wolfish crowd of thieves and prostitutes waiting to see a man die;
    the cat-calls, the bonnetings, the preaching of ministers, whose every
    word used to be interrupted by obscenity and blasphemy, the wild jumping
    dances to the chorus of' Oh my, think I've got to die!' were all absent
    There was not even a policeman; the windows opposite the jail were all untenanted, and in these days, when people get compensation for all improvements, it is ulmost wonderful that the owuers or occupiers of
    these houses have not applied for some indemnity for the los» they
    suffer from the criminals being hanged in private. There is no bravado
    of the scaffold now as in the old days, when a man used to ride to
    Tyburn with a nosegay in his breast and stop to drink on bis way, or as,
    until lately, when a man would come out on the drop and be cheered by
    his 'pals' and confederates, according as lie bore himself bravely.
    Death by hanging now means a silent, terrible execution, where the
    half-dozen or dozen spectators have the painful duty of staying by until
    the man is hanged till he is dead. This is almost all that has to be
    said about private executions."

    So much for the external improvement of affairs. The English are at last driven, by the advance of public feeling, to repress the barbarous
    outdoor exhibitions of Newgate and Tyburn. This is a gain, in that
    executions serve less than formerly to breed and teach the very crimes
    they punish; but the opponents of the Death-Penalty will urge that they
    now, also, serve less to frighten into virtue the few ruffians who are susceptible to impression by the terrors of the scaffold. Hidden and
    glossed over, they make no interruption to the carnival of vice, and are forgotten the moment they are recorded. When our British cousins are
    engaged in dirty work, they desire, at least, the credit of doing it above-board, and so do not wholly relish the new system. The London
    Spectator says of this affair: "It cannot be disputed that social order
    has gained by the abolition of public hanging, but choking a man in a
    dark hole is not and never can become an English institution." These are
    manly words.

    When the boy Mackay was hanged, the Times again reported: "His
    sufferings were dreadful. How Mackay appeared to suffer only those who
    were present can tell."

    On the 25th of September, 1868, Silas James and Charles T. James were
    executed at Worcester, Mass., for the barbarous murder of Joseph Or.
    Clark. Silas died with little suffering, but of the agonies of Charles,
    the younger and least guilty of the two, an eye-witness declared:

    "Even while suspended from the terrible scaffolding, he clung to life
    with the utmost tenacity. He struggled, drew up bis legs a dozen times
    or more, and bis whole body shook violently, while every now and then
    his groans and occasional long-drawn breaths broke the sad and painful stillness. The scene was one which could hardly be tolerated, except on recalling the fearful crime of which the men were guilty."

    They attended to such matters roughly, but more thoroughly, upon our
    frontier, so long as Lynch was jury, judge, and hangman. Now that he has
    been supplanted by the commissioned officers of civilization, and his
    triple function subdivided, the result is not so gratifying from a
    scientific point of view. Kufus B. Anderson was executed in Austin,
    Nevada, on the 30th of last October, for the murder of one Slocum. The newspapers grimly entitle this affair "Another Civilizing Gallows
    Scene," and from their reports we learn that the rope broke twice, and,
    in spite of the instinctive attempt of the crowd to rescue the wretched
    victim, they were forced back by the guard, and Anderson was suspended a
    third time, and thoroughly hanged.

    But enough, and more than enough! Let us drop the catalogue of horrors.
    A strange impression is made upon the searcher among these noisome
    records when he sees that murder is hydraheaded; that in almost every
    newspaper which describes an execution, the telegraphic columns report
    two or three fresh and atrocious homicides.

    It may be said that these horrors, of which the reader can hardly endure
    the recital, are partly obviated by tthe adoption of the guillotine or
    garotte. The polite Latin races, certainly, are more advanced than we,
    who set our teeth together, and resist taste and sensitiveness in the
    exercise of inherited customs. While there are agonies of a different
    kind attendant upon these other modes of execution, which render them
    unnatural to endure or witness, they nevertheless show one form of
    progress in European civilization. Doubtless, with new scientific
    knowledge, a painless mode of killing may be discovered,-as by an
    electric shock, or by the use of some deadly anaesthetic. But the
    limitation and abolition of the Death-Penalty grow so rapidly that there
    is small likelihood of its modification by new forms. During the
    remainder of its period we shall probably stick to the ancestral wont,
    nor go to France and Spain for any foreign improvements; especially
    since, as we observe, the first spontaneous act of the people of Madrid,
    after their late successful revolution, was to proceed en masse to the
    suburbs and burn the scaffold of the garotte.

    What benefit accrues to the murderers themselves, from the prospect of
    their torture? Apparently, a certain spiritual illumination and reform.
    To be serious,-and with the utmost reverence for religion itself,-let us
    say that nothing can be more grotesque and repulsive than the
    pseudo-religious phase developed under the impending death and the ministrations of the clerical acolytes, who, with the executioner and
    the surgeon, in their several functions, represent the offices of the
    Parcte in these » fearful trilogies. Genuine repentance is, without
    doubt, occasionally exhibited by those condemned to death; but if the
    majority of these spiritual manifestations are well-founded, then a
    rightdown villain's short road to Paradise is the perpetration of a
    brutal murder; for, in most cases, the more brutal the murder, the
    greater the pious assurance of the condemned.

    Mrs. Grinder-who reduced poisoning to a science, and was the Lucrezia
    Borgia of Western low-life,-when her sins had found her out, went to the
    gibbet with a cheerful faith that her month of penitence had atoned for
    her years of remorseless crime. When the sheriff came to lead her to
    execution, and said, in reply to her first remark, "Yes, Mrs. Grinder,
    the time has come," she answered with a chirrup, " Yes, and Jesus is
    coming for me, too!" She acknowledged her guilt, but smiled confidently
    to the last. Albert Starkweather, a wretch who slaughtered his mother
    and sister with an axe, and was hanged at Hartford, August 17th, stated
    by proxy on the scaffold that he died " in charity with all men, and
    with a strong faith in Jesus Christ, believing he should soon see Him in
    the spirit." Joseph Williams was still more content with his
    arrangements for the coming life. This ignorant negro was hanged at New Brunswick, N. J., July 5th, 1867, for the murder of John Reddick. In his
    speech to the crowd around the gallows, he said: "To-day is my last day.
    When the clock strikes twelve, I shall see Jesus. If you want to see me
    again, you must come*to Jesus!" This fellow died easily, and after his
    short struggle was over, men, women, and children, with true New Jersey amateurehip, marched in procession under the gallows and inspected the
    corpse.



    Discussions of erotic hanging
    Posted: 7-Aug-2011 - 2 comment(s) [ Comment ] - 0 trackback(s) [ Trackback ] Category: Hanging studies
    from various sites, including talkgroups and the old PNN files. Note
    that since these stop after a few seconds to a minute, they are not so authoritative as to longer hanging as were the suicide attempts.





    (female poster)

    From the very first time I heard about it I was interested in hanging.
    Most people associate it with the old west and cowboys and think it can
    only be done to guys but from the first I ever heard about it I knew
    that wasn't true, that it was just made to be done to girls too. And I
    wanted it done to me. Since then I've tried it a few times in varying
    degrees and each time it was loverly, just hanging there naked,
    suffering, really suffering as the rope chokes the life out of you and
    grey fades to black.

    The first time I tried it was when I was smaller and lighter, which
    makes it easier and helps you to last longer. I remember hearing about
    hanging in school and talking about it with some boys I knew. They
    talked about the sexual aspects and people being hung naked. That part
    turned me on. Being publicly stripped on the gallows and hung in the
    nude. I wanted it so badly I came just thinking about it. It is
    difficult to describe why I like this sort of game. Being stripped naked
    and tied up and then hung by the neck. Nothing quite equals the thrill
    as every inch of you burns. You struggle helplessly against the ropes
    that hold your wrists tight. Your body twists and turns wantonly as you
    try desperately to escape.

    The best kind of tie up game is one just like this, the one you know you
    cannot escape. The one done with no safeword, no chance for mercy, no
    hope of reprieve. Being stripped naked in the woods and bound hand and
    foot and the noose put around my neck. And all the while I pleaded for
    mercy that I knew would never come. That was the day that made me. There
    was no embarrassment in it for me. In fact my whole body purred. Being
    naked had plugged my body into a socket and I was humming on high. I
    didn't know why I liked it but I knew I did.

    The first time I was hung was a part of a kidnap game and as usual,
    being the only girl, I was the kidnappee. I was taken into the woods and
    told to strip to my underpants. That was no big deal for a European girl
    used to baring her chest on the beach. My wrists and ankles were bound.
    We didn't have a gallows, of course. They threw a rope over a tree limb
    and just tied the end around my throat. No noose or anything, just a
    loop of clothesline around my throat. I stood on a pile of three
    concrete blocks. Then they bound my ankles together. I knew they were
    going to hang me naked because we had talked about it so it was no
    surprise when they dropped my underpants to my ankles. I loved it. Loved
    the way they stared at me hungrily. I had never been completely naked
    before more than one guy at a time and here I was naked in front of a
    whole group. I practically came just standing there

    They just left me up there in the hot sun. Naked. For maybe an hour.
    Just standing there on top of those blocks. I struggled to untie myself
    but I couldn't struggle too much or else I might fall off and hang
    myself. It seemed like I was up there forever and I slowly got more and
    more scared. Finally I broke down and I cried and begged but they
    wouldn't let me go. Then finally they figured I had suffered that way
    enough and they knocked the blocks out from under me and I was hung.

    Every inch of me screamed with pain. It was incredible as the full
    weight of my body was transferred to my neck and the rope tightened
    around it. It felt as if my head were being torn from my neck. I tried
    to fight but fear seemed to seize me and I sort of just froze right
    there in mid air. My body just released and I was stretched out full
    length in mid-air. I felt the pain as my body weight took hold, the rope squeezed my throat shut and slowly the weight of my own body began to
    squeeze the life out of me. Then I woke up suddenly and started to
    struggle helplessly, desperately, futilely to get loose and to get some air.

    I begged for help but it did not good, they just left me there. I tried desperately to free my hands as I dangled there. If only I could get my
    wrists loose. But I couldn't. They had tied my wrists together and then
    tied my bound wrists to a rope around my tummy. Slowly my body began to
    weaken. Slowly every muscle began to burn with the pain. And slowly the
    pain turned to numbness, my fear turned into fog, and as I weakened more
    and more I slowly drifted toward blackness. Because I was so light it
    took a couple of minutes before I finally passed out. In the last half a
    minute I suffered terribly, every inch of my slight brown body in pain.
    Slowly, slowly I was being choked to death. Every second seemed like an eternity. I begged for help with my last breath. Then everything went black

    When I was in my early twenties I did have a relationship with a guy who
    knew I was fascinated by hanging and one evening we tried it.

    His bedroom luckily was one of those with an overhead beam. Before we
    made love he had prepared with my help a very thick three coiled
    hangman's noose from rough hemp. He swung it over the beam and was able
    to hold the other end of the rope while on his back on his bed. I had
    slipped on a very thick black woolen turtleneck sweater (you know I knit those), that was all. He tied my hands loosely behind my back with a
    simple two slip knot looped strand of rope. I have to admit that by that
    point I was sopping wet.

    He then noosed me making sure the knot was under my left ear and able to
    slide forwards. And then I mounted him. He was very, very, ready.

    Without any further neck pressure it was incredible, but then he tugged
    on the loose end of the rope. I gagged and choked and he swears I
    started to violently rock on him like never before. He stayed inside me
    and my body was not lifted off him. I do know I came with an explosion I
    have never had before or since. I did not feel him come, I was just into
    my own sensations which were indescribable. He told me he did come but
    was just amazed by the violence of mine and how I spasmically clutched
    him inside me. The pain drove me wild, I felt my head being pulled away,
    but what went on inside me drove me wilder. He told me I lasted about 2
    minutes without stopping my jerking and spasms, until he let the rope
    become slack. I was so dazed I did not feel him loosening the noose at
    first. Afterwards it hurt, badly. Headache and rope burn in spite of the sweater padding. I had to wear a turtleneck for 2 weeks. It was so
    wonderful, but never again. I totally lost myself.

    The first time I ever strangled another woman, I had just graduated from
    high school. She was older than me (34) and very beautiful. She called
    me her baby girl. When we were first making love, I would pay much
    attention to her long neck especially her soft throat. Her larynx was
    small and feminine but noticable. I played with it, stroking it with my
    fingers and kissing it...this kind of play always turned her on.

    We began to gently strangle each other after a while...nothing really
    heavy though...more like caresses really. One day she handed me a new
    silk scarf that she had just purchased and asked me to strangle her with
    it. That got me wet immediately and we went to the bedroom so we could
    watch this delicate operation in her triple panelled mirror she used for dressing.

    I passed it around her graceful neck, my heart beating fast and my hands shaking a bit and gently began began to pull the scarf from both ends.
    She wanted it tighter so I pulled it tighter...my eyes glued to her
    neck, watching the scarf press up against her larynx. God, was this ever
    hot!! We did this for a while until she had an explosive orgasm. During
    it, her legs gave out so I immediately removed the scarf and tried to
    hold on to her but she slipped from my grasp. On the floor she squirmed
    around, still coming. My own clit was enveloped in flames of hot
    cum...what an experience! We went back to our safer way of strangling
    but that one is burned in my memory.

    Mmmmm!!
    (female poster):

    Well first of all NEVER do it alone. If you pass out while hanging you
    DIE. You must have someone there to let you down just in case you go too
    far. Brain damage begins roughly around 4 minutes plus. It varies how
    long a person can hang some just a matter of a few seconds other upwards
    of two minutes. I have hanged for real and it is the greatest thing ever.

    First I felt an incredible pounding in my head and chest. then my head
    began to tingle and mys vission tunnel. The I got the greatst rush ever.
    I like to go til I pass out then have a partner let me down. More then
    what I said above can not be put into words.

    Now is dispel some myths.

    1. Some stories here in have the rope tightening slowly while the person
    hangs. When a person is hanged the rope tightens in less then a second
    or two. No breath is possible and no speech is either.

    2. A person cannot go the length of time like some of the stories here.
    I read where one woman hanged in a story was still kicking after 20
    minutes. Medically not possible she would be brain dead long before
    this. A person can hang no longer without passing out than they could
    hold thier breath without passing out.


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