• Re: Sunday was the hottest day ever recorded on Earth, scientists say

    From Scout@21:1/5 to X@Y.com on Wed Jul 24 09:28:41 2024
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    "Project 2025" <X@Y.com> wrote in message
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    Project 2025, the sweeping right-wing blueprint for a new kind of U.S. presidency, would sabotage science-based policies that address climate change, the environment, abortion, health care access, technology and education.

    Let's stop here. Science-based? If you were to actually talk to scientists about the scientific consensus, that would be a different discussion that
    what you are talking about.

    For example, when asked if the temperature today is higher or lower than the past, an actual scientist would ask "since when"? global temperatures go up. they go down. and whether we are higher or lower than history all depends on WHEN we start measuring. Now. It is claimed by some that CO2 is causing
    global warming. The problem is that our recent increases in global
    temperatures started LONG before the industrial revolution and the increase
    of CO2.
    Which sort of reverses the causality.. assuming a correlation is causality.. because temperature increases occurred BEFORE the CO2. thus if we were to assume causality.. we could assert that Global Warming is what caused the increase in CO2. Because Cause always predates the Effect.
    Further we have the historical record of climate when man's activities
    couldn't possibly have any significant impact of global temperatures.
    As noted there were times the temperatures were higher, and times they were lower... and we have NO idea WHY they occurred.
    As such we have no hard evidence to prove that any current warming isn't the result of a natural change.

    So when you say science based.. on WHAT science is it based? Actual
    scientific consensus, or select promoters who stand to benefit financially
    from the grants, studies, and investigations to further explore their allegations which of course, tend to be heavily biased towards supporting
    the claims already made by the scientists performing the follow-up studies.

    So, no, if we were actually talking real science, then you might have something, but we're not. We can't even explain why temperatures changed in
    the past, so we can hardly state why they are or aren't changing now.

    That said.. reducing our emissions, would probably be a good thing overall,
    but NOT at the cost of destroying our economy. Heck we would be far better
    off spending the money planting trees and restoring ecosystems we have
    damaged or all but destroyed.

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