• Knife used in 'suicide' of Philly woman stabbed 20 times was never test

    From Philly Cheese Stank@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 07:28:46 2023
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    Which Philly nigger did it?

    Philadelphia investigators ruled Ellen Greenberg's 2011 stabbing
    death a suicide despite widespread criticism of their findings

    The knife found piercing the chest of 27-year-old Philadelphia
    teacher Ellen Greenberg has never been fingerprinted, according
    to the attorney for her parents, who are suing city officials
    over an alleged coverup of her murder.

    Greenberg was discovered dead in her kitchen in January 2011
    with 20 stab wounds, including 10 from behind.

    But city authorities have said for years that her death was a
    suicide and are still embroiled in a court battle over evidence
    in the case, which her parents want access to. One piece of that
    evidence is the knife itself.

    "We would like to have it tested, minimally, just to see if
    there are fingerprints on it, because if there aren't any
    fingerprints, that says a lot," said Joseph Podraza, the
    attorney for Joshua and Sandee Greenberg and their daughter’s
    estate.

    It would mean someone — a potential killer — wiped them off
    after she was dead, he told Fox News Digital.

    "And if there are fingerprints other than Ellen's on that knife,
    well, that says a lot too: Somebody clearly did stab her," he
    said. "And it's never been fingerprinted."

    Dr. Michael Baden, a renowned forensic pathologist who is not
    connected to the case, said if the knife has been stored
    properly all this time fingerprints can be analyzed.

    "Fingerprints usually don't go away unless they are wiped away,"
    he told Fox News Digital. "If the knife has been properly
    preserved, a foreign fingerprint might still be findable."

    A lot of evidence in the case deserves scrutiny, according to
    Podraza and the family's private investigator, Tom Brennan.

    Despite collapsing with nearly two dozen stab wounds in a
    bloodstained kitchen, Greenberg was found clutching a "pristine"
    white towel in her left hand, the lawyer said.

    "I think that that towel that's in her left hand was used to
    wipe it (the knife handle)," Podraza told Fox News Digital. "And
    I think that somebody may have come upon the scene quicker than
    they thought, and that's how that towel ended up in her left
    hand."

    "How many people are cutting up fruit for a fruit salad to eat
    for lunch, then decide, 'Oh, you know something, I'd rather kill
    myself now?'" Podraza said. "'So let me go get a white towel,
    hold it in my left hand while stabbing myself 20 times to
    death.'"

    Last month, a panel of appellate judges ruled against the
    parents' request to force the Philadelphia medical examiner to
    reclassify Greenberg's death from suicide to homicide or
    undetermined.

    But the panel also slammed the city, police and the medical
    examiner's office for the investigation.

    "The facts surrounding this matter are extremely disturbing and
    the Parents’ tireless efforts over the past 12 years to learn
    exactly what happened to their daughter on the evening of
    January 26, 2011, warrant our sincere sympathy," Commonwealth
    Judge Ellen Ceisler wrote in the majority opinion.

    "The experts they enlisted have all raised serious factual
    questions about Dr. [Marlon] Osbourne’s and Dr. [Sam] Gulino’s
    conclusions, and even the [medical examiner's office] now
    concedes that there 'is no dispute that evidence in the record
    could support other conclusions about the manner of death.'"

    Ceisler outlined glaring flaws in the investigation. Osbourne's
    initial finding was that the death was a homicide, but his
    determination came after the crime scene had been cleaned up and
    before police arrived with a search warrant.

    And Dr. Cyril Wecht, a famed forensic pathologist who conducted
    an independent review of the autopsy, found the evidence
    "strongly suspicious of homicide" and "noted that the
    investigators made no effort to examine the knife found in the
    Victim’s chest for fingerprints," she wrote.

    A separate judge is expected to hear oral arguments on the
    family’s request for evidence in the case as part of a separate
    lawsuit alleging a conspiracy to cover up a murder. The city is
    actively fighting against the disclosures.

    Officials have said they cannot answer questions directly
    related to the case, citing the pending litigation and an
    ongoing outside investigation in the hands of the neighboring
    Chester County District Attorney’s Office.

    A Philadelphia spokeswoman told Fox News Digital last month the
    city was "pleased" with the appellate ruling in its favor.

    "The city is now, and has always been, deeply sympathetic to
    Joshua and Sandra Greenberg's pain and deep grief over the loss
    of their daughter," she said in a statement. "If Mr. and Mrs.
    Greenberg have new evidence about their daughter’s death, we
    urge them to present it to the investigators in Chester County,
    as they have the authority to reopen the investigation."

    Dr. Marlon Osbourne, the former assistant Philadelphia medical
    examiner, has not responded to emails or phone messages. He
    continues to work as a forensic pathologist and is an associate
    medical examiner in Palm Beach, Florida.

    The parents plan to appeal last month's appellate decision to
    the state's Supreme Court, Podraza said, which he called "a road
    map" on how to get away with murder.

    "That's the most astounding aspect of the opinion. You have, as
    I read it, three judges saying this young woman was murdered.
    The investigation is grossly flawed and embarrassing. There is a
    murderer or murderers out there. But our hands are tied, and
    nobody can do anything except the government officials, and
    you're therefore subject to their whims," he told Fox News
    Digital.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/knife-used-suicide-philly-woman- stabbed-20-times-never-tested-fingerprints-lawyer-says

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