For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don Cates
<cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don Cates >><cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:And as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:29:45 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don Cates >>><cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:And as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
Are those other froups moderated? If not, they're not equivalent
cases, as servers process posts to them differently.
test post 1
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:16:30 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:29:45 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>Thanks for the reply.
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don Cates >>>><cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:And as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go >>>>offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
Are those other froups moderated? If not, they're not equivalent
cases, as servers process posts to them differently.
No, they're not. I'm aware of the possible issues with
moderation (especially the robo-moderation used here; it
caused problems with Comcast several years ago). But since I
can't get *any* posts through to t.o (at least, not since I
switched to ES a couple of weeks ago), and others seem able
to, at least irregularly, I suspect that the problem is with
my options setup, even though it works fine elsewhere.
As I said, weird.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:22:30 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:16:30 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:29:45 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>Thanks for the reply.
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don Cates >>>>><cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:And as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go >>>>>offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of >>>>>the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
Are those other froups moderated? If not, they're not equivalent
cases, as servers process posts to them differently.
No, they're not. I'm aware of the possible issues with
moderation (especially the robo-moderation used here; it
caused problems with Comcast several years ago). But since I
can't get *any* posts through to t.o (at least, not since I
switched to ES a couple of weeks ago), and others seem able
to, at least irregularly, I suspect that the problem is with
my options setup, even though it works fine elsewhere.
As I said, weird.
Your problem interests me because you and I use nearly identical >configurations. Which posts did you recently send via ES?
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:22:30 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:16:30 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:29:45 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>Thanks for the reply.
wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don Cates >>>>><cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:And as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go >>>>>offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of >>>>>the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
Are those other froups moderated? If not, they're not equivalent
cases, as servers process posts to them differently.
No, they're not. I'm aware of the possible issues with
moderation (especially the robo-moderation used here; it
caused problems with Comcast several years ago). But since I
can't get *any* posts through to t.o (at least, not since I
switched to ES a couple of weeks ago), and others seem able
to, at least irregularly, I suspect that the problem is with
my options setup, even though it works fine elsewhere.
As I said, weird.
Your problem interests me because you and I use nearly identical >configurations. Which posts did you recently send via ES?
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don CatesAnd as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
<cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
On 1/22/23 10:29 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don CatesAnd as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
<cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
I haven't tried lately, but my posts to t.o. using Eternal-September
have not worked in the past. (They used to, years ago, but not in
months at least.)
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:46:32 -0800, the following appearedHmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
in talk.origins, posted by Mark Isaak
<specimen@curioustaxonomy.net>:
On 1/22/23 10:29 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:As I've noted. the robomoderation on t.o has caused problems
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don CatesAnd as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
<cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
I haven't tried lately, but my posts to t.o. using Eternal-September
have not worked in the past. (They used to, years ago, but not in
months at least.)
in the past. But those were issues with the server (Comcast,
specifically), and were only fixed at the service level.
Since there are those here whose posts via ES show up, that
appears to not be the problem.
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
On 2023-01-23 10:05 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:46:32 -0800, the following appearedHmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
in talk.origins, posted by Mark Isaak
<specimen@curioustaxonomy.net>:
On 1/22/23 10:29 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:As I've noted. the robomoderation on t.o has caused problems
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don CatesAnd as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
<cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
I haven't tried lately, but my posts to t.o. using Eternal-September
have not worked in the past. (They used to, years ago, but not in
months at least.)
in the past. But those were issues with the server (Comcast,
specifically), and were only fixed at the service level.
Since there are those here whose posts via ES show up, that
appears to not be the problem.
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from
E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from
E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appearedTry Solani. I switched over during one of my ES problems. I kept the ES
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from
E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:10:39 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from >>>E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
Even paid Usenet servers drop posts and have server outages. As I
know you know, there are other "free" Usenet servers. Agent makes it
easy to swap among them.
On 2023-01-25 12:10 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appearedTry Solani. I switched over during one of my ES problems. I kept the ES >account and set up Tbird to check it regularly with no kill file at all
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from
E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
but to delete after 30 days. My Solani account has an extensive kill
file I can go to ES if I become aware of any killfiled postings that may
be of interest.
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:08:48 -0600, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by DB Cates
<cate...@hotmail.com.invalid>:
On 2023-01-25 12:10 AM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appearedTry Solani. I switched over during one of my ES problems. I kept the ES >account and set up Tbird to check it regularly with no kill file at all >but to delete after 30 days. My Solani account has an extensive kill
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agi...@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting. >>>Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from >>> E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
file I can go to ES if I become aware of any killfiled postings that may >be of interest.
Looks reasonable; I've applied for an account (approval in
24 hours?!?). My only hesitation was the requirement to
"comply with German law", of which my knowledge is
approximately zero. We'll see.
BTW, I tried using ES again after DIG ran an unidentified
patch; still no dice.
--
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 04:22:44 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:10:39 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>It does indeed; that's why I set up an ES account, because
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting. >>>>Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from >>>>E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
Even paid Usenet servers drop posts and have server outages. As I
know you know, there are other "free" Usenet servers. Agent makes it
easy to swap among them.
it seemed from extensive observation to have a track record
at least in the same ballpark as Supernews. And I'm aware of
the occasional outages. But ES has *not* been down for the
past two weeks, during which time I was unable to get a
single post through, *but only to t.o*, while others were.
I notice that DIG has installed a patch; I'll try ES again.
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 10:03:18 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 04:22:44 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:10:39 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>It does indeed; that's why I set up an ES account, because
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting. >>>>>Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from >>>>>E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
Even paid Usenet servers drop posts and have server outages. As I
know you know, there are other "free" Usenet servers. Agent makes it >>>easy to swap among them.
it seemed from extensive observation to have a track record
at least in the same ballpark as Supernews. And I'm aware of
the occasional outages. But ES has *not* been down for the
past two weeks, during which time I was unable to get a
single post through, *but only to t.o*, while others were.
I notice that DIG has installed a patch; I'll try ES again.
As I noted here:
*****************************
From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Phantom downtime?
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:21:03 -0500
Organization: What are you looking for?
Message-ID: <mn1bshlllgvj5j3s46lundhdletpo0h98c@4ax.com> >*****************************
ES dropped posts between Sun, 15 Jan 2023 (EST) and Mon, 16 Jan 2023
03:40:35 (EST), and has intermittently reverted to RO mode since then.
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:02:26 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 10:03:18 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>Thanks. I was unclear; during the past two weeks I have been
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 04:22:44 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:10:39 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> >>>>wrote:It does indeed; that's why I set up an ES account, because
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting. >>>>>>Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from >>>>>>E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
Even paid Usenet servers drop posts and have server outages. As I
know you know, there are other "free" Usenet servers. Agent makes it >>>>easy to swap among them.
it seemed from extensive observation to have a track record
at least in the same ballpark as Supernews. And I'm aware of
the occasional outages. But ES has *not* been down for the
past two weeks, during which time I was unable to get a
single post through, *but only to t.o*, while others were.
I notice that DIG has installed a patch; I'll try ES again.
As I noted here:
*****************************
From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Phantom downtime?
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:21:03 -0500
Organization: What are you looking for?
Message-ID: <mn1bshlllgvj5j3s46lundhdletpo0h98c@4ax.com> >>*****************************
ES dropped posts between Sun, 15 Jan 2023 (EST) and Mon, 16 Jan 2023 >>03:40:35 (EST), and has intermittently reverted to RO mode since then.
unable to get *any* posts through to t.o while others,
including yourself (two test posts, IIRC) were able to do
so. During the same period I was able to post successfully
to other groups, using the same options as always, and as I
use for Supernews. As I said, weird.
Once my Albasani account clears I'll try that.
a
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:10:39 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting.
Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from >>>E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
Even paid Usenet servers drop posts and have server outages. As I
know you know, there are other "free" Usenet servers. Agent makes it
easy to swap among them.
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:02:26 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 10:03:18 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>Thanks. I was unclear; during the past two weeks I have been
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 04:22:44 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:10:39 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>It does indeed; that's why I set up an ES account, because
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:21:54 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by André G. Isaak
<agisaak@gm.invalid>:
On 2023-01-24 10:19, Don Cates wrote:I see them both. I notice that you both use T-Bird, but
Hmmm, something may be flaky for me too. One more test of ES posting. >>>>>>Well, that post came through. Of course, since I am also posting from >>>>>> E-S, you may or may not see this confirmation.
André
jillery uses Agent (as do I) and her posts via ES show up.
As I said, weird.
Well, I only have 2 more days until my Supernews account
expires, so after that I may not be back unless I can find
the problem. It's been a good (almost) 30 years.
Even paid Usenet servers drop posts and have server outages. As I
know you know, there are other "free" Usenet servers. Agent makes it
easy to swap among them.
it seemed from extensive observation to have a track record
at least in the same ballpark as Supernews. And I'm aware of
the occasional outages. But ES has *not* been down for the
past two weeks, during which time I was unable to get a
single post through, *but only to t.o*, while others were.
I notice that DIG has installed a patch; I'll try ES again.
As I noted here:
*****************************
From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Re: Phantom downtime?
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2023 12:21:03 -0500
Organization: What are you looking for?
Message-ID: <mn1bshlllgvj5j3s46lundhdletpo0h98c@4ax.com>
*****************************
ES dropped posts between Sun, 15 Jan 2023 (EST) and Mon, 16 Jan 2023
03:40:35 (EST), and has intermittently reverted to RO mode since then.
unable to get *any* posts through to t.o while others,
including yourself (two test posts, IIRC) were able to do
so. During the same period I was able to post successfully
to other groups, using the same options as always, and as I
use for Supernews. As I said, weird.
Once my Albasani account clears I'll try that.
On 1/22/23 10:29 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don CatesAnd as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
<cates_db@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
I haven't tried lately, but my posts to t.o. using Eternal-September
have not worked in the past. (They used to, years ago, but not in
months at least.)
Let's try a post to 2 groups, one that didn't work and one
that did in prior tests of ES...
On 1/23/23 1:46 PM, Mark Isaak wrote:
On 1/22/23 10:29 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:24:46 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jp...@gmail.com>:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 21:42:46 -0600, Don CatesAnd as I reported when I replied to Don Cates, I see posts I
<cate...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-01-22 7:18 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:53:46 -0700, the following appeareddoes this post to ES work?
in talk.origins, posted by Bob Casanova <nos...@buzz.off>:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifApparently it does. Ideas, anyone?
Supernews still does.
--
As I reported earlier, ES is having server issues, where they go
offline intermittently. This is a recurring feature of ES, part of
the cost of their free service.
make through ES to other groups (sci.skeptic in particular).
The issue appears to be only with posts to t.o.
I haven't tried lately, but my posts to t.o. using Eternal-SeptemberAnd now, for the last day or two, aioe is not working.
have not worked in the past. (They used to, years ago, but not in
months at least.)
(Posted via E-S, so I will be surprised if anyone reads this.)
--
["Followup-To:" header set to talk.origins.]
On 2023-01-26, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
Let's try a post to 2 groups, one that didn't work and one
that did in prior tests of ES...
september requires manual whitelisting my me :(
--D.
["Followup-To:" header set to talk.origins.]
On 2023-01-26, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
Let's try a post to 2 groups, one that didn't work and one
that did in prior tests of ES...
september requires manual whitelisting my me :(
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifAnyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
Supernews still does.
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
Mark Isaak
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-8, Mark Isaak wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifAnyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
Supernews still does.
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
Mark Isaak
Gurgling is pretty crude, but it works.
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
Mark Isaak
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:28:19 -0500, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:50:45 -0800 (PST), Mark Isaak
<markaisaak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post, >>>since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need >>>to say anything.
Mark Isaak
aioe was working just fine for me yesterday. However, according to
<https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/>
www.aioe.org, and presumably its Usenet server as well, is currently
down.
Try using albasani.org
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:50:45 -0800 (PST), Mark Isaak
<markaisaak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
Mark Isaak
aioe was working just fine for me yesterday. However, according to
<https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/>
www.aioe.org, and presumably its Usenet server as well, is currently
down.
erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-8, Mark Isaak wrote:It’s fortunate I can post from an iOS newsreader with very little issue. >Gurgle Groups is a nightmare to search on a mobile device. Can’t even >imagine how posting would work.
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifAnyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
Supernews still does.
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
Mark Isaak
Gurgling is pretty crude, but it works.
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:50:45 -0800 (PST), Mark Isaak
<markaisaak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
Mark Isaak
aioe was working just fine for me yesterday. However, according to
<https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/>
www.aioe.org, and presumably its Usenet server as well, is currently
down.
On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-8, Mark Isaak wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see ifAnyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post,
Supernews still does.
since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need
to say anything.
Mark Isaak
Gurgling is pretty crude, but it works.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:32:43 -0500, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:28:19 -0500, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:50:45 -0800 (PST), Mark Isaak >>><markaisaak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post, >>>>since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need >>>>to say anything.
Mark Isaak
aioe was working just fine for me yesterday. However, according to
<https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/>
www.aioe.org, and presumably its Usenet server as well, is currently >>>down.
Try using albasani.org
Sorry, that's albasani.net.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:28:19 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:50:45 -0800 (PST), Mark IsaakIt's not alone; when someone suggested I try Albasani* I
<markaisaak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post, >>>since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need >>>to say anything.
Mark Isaak
aioe was working just fine for me yesterday. However, according to
<https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/>
www.aioe.org, and presumably its Usenet server as well, is currently
down.
went to the website and registered, whereupon I got the
message that I'd get an email with my login info "within 24
hours". Yeah, right; that was 3 days ago and nothing yet. Of
course, it's become moot, but *they* don't know that.
*Well, duh... It was DB Cates, and he suggested Solani, not
Albasani; for some reason, probably the fact that I'd heard
of Albasani but not Solani, I had a brain fart and went to
the wrong place.
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 09:13:42 -0700, Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:28:19 -0500, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:50:45 -0800 (PST), Mark Isaak >>><markaisaak@gmail.com> wrote:It's not alone; when someone suggested I try Albasani* I
On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:57 PM UTC-8, Bob Casanova wrote:
For some reason ES doesn't work for t.o. Let's see if
Supernews still does.
Anyone else having problems with aioe? I have been using it to post, >>>>since I too am unable to post with ES. I'm reduced to Gurgle if I need >>>>to say anything.
Mark Isaak
aioe was working just fine for me yesterday. However, according to
<https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/>
www.aioe.org, and presumably its Usenet server as well, is currently >>>down.
went to the website and registered, whereupon I got the
message that I'd get an email with my login info "within 24
hours". Yeah, right; that was 3 days ago and nothing yet. Of
course, it's become moot, but *they* don't know that.
*Well, duh... It was DB Cates, and he suggested Solani, not
Albasani; for some reason, probably the fact that I'd heard
of Albasani but not Solani, I had a brain fart and went to
the wrong place.
Since servers problems are a regular thing, I pass on this list of
free Usenet servers:
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.nntp/c/54dXcEQeGBk>
ISTM most Usenet servers have an associated website and email. Since
both Beagle and Usenet servers are known to have occasional
unscheduled downtime, it would be good practice to use >www.isitdownrightnow.com or equivalent to see which is offline. If
Beagle is still running, it's effective to switch to a different
server, or even (ugh) GG.
aioe.org
eternal-september.org (requires registration)
mixmin.net
albasani.net
dizum.com (mail2news gateway, free reading on NNTP)
tulanet.com
news.samoylyk.net
a. aioe_rw nntp.aioe.org:119 (permanent NNTP posting host hash) >username=<blank> password=<blank>--
admin=Paolo Amoroso (estasi at aioe dot org)
b. albasani_rw reader.albasani.net:119
admin=Roman Racine (roman dot racine at gmail dot com)
(Albasani used to be Alexander Bartolich & Sabine Schultz) >Site=<http://albasani.net/index.html.en>
Register=ne...@albasani.net (roman....@gmail.com)
Login information will be sent to your email.
c. albasani_ro reader.albasani.net:119 (this is the slowest) >username=readonly password=readonly
e. dizum_ro news.dizum.net:119
username=<blank> password=<blank>
admin=Alex de Joode Amsterdam us...@despair.sabotage.org
f. esept_rw news.eternal-september.org:119 (563 SSL)
Also: reader80.eternal-september.org:80
Also: reader443.eternal-september.org:443
admin=Ray Bananna (rayban at raybanana dot net)
admin=Wolfgang M. Weyand wolfgang(at)eternal-september.org
Berliner Strasse 26 D-61348 Bad Homburg v.d.H. ICQ 335794777
New servers 20170904
<http://www.eternal-september.org/serverstatus.php> >Site=<http://www.eternal-september.org> >Register=<http://eternal-september.org/RegisterNewsAccount.ph>
Login information will be sent to your email.
g. mixmin_rw news.mixmin.net:563[SSL]
username=<blank> password=<blank>
admin=Steve Crook (steve at mixmin dot net)
h. mixmin_ro news.mixmin.net:119
username=<blank> password=<blank>
admin=Steve Crook
i. mozilla_rw news.mozilla.org:119 (cleartext NNTP posting host) >username=<blank> password=<blank>
NOTE: Special purpose "newsgroup" for the mozilla hierarchy ><https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.general> ><https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.support.firefox> ><https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.support.thunderbird>
admin=?
j. neodome_ro news.neodome.net:119 (read only)
username=<blank> password=<blank>
In 2018 neodome seems to add read & write for free!
website: <http://neodome.net>
newsgroup: neodome.general
admin=ad...@neodome.net (you can request an account from him)
Neodome on port 563(SSL) was always available for posting.
Neodome on port 119 was always available for reading.
As of about June 1st 2018, neodome is available for posting on port
119.
(I think this stopped working, inexplicably, a few weeks ago.)
k. netfront_rw freenews.netfront.net:119 (cleartext NNTP posting host) >username=<blank> password=<blank>
unknown (somewhere in China?)
NOTE: Netfront only allows a handful of posts per day per IP.
admin=?
l. news4all: unknown (somewhere in Sweden?) Leissner Data AB
admin=?
m. solani_rw news.solani.org:119
admin=Daniel & Monika Weber & Benjamin Gufler usenet at
news.solani.org
Solani (they remove you if you don't use it in 60 days): >site=http://news.solani.org
register=http://news.solani.org/register
Login information will be sent to your email instantaneously.
n. sunsite: news.sunsite.dk:119
admin=Steen Jensen in Denmark
Registration=Must put email in nntp header & must respond to auth req >Register=news-...@sunsite.de
Login information will be sent to your email.
o. xsusenet: unknown (somewhere in the Netherlands?) ENOM, INC >us...@nospam.sabotage.org XS4ALL Internet BV Societe Anonyme Botage >admin=adej...@sabotage.org
A post I made a couple of hours ago has never appeared. This is just a test.
A post I made a couple of hours ago has never appeared. This is just a test.
Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel.cb@gmail.com> wrote:
A post I made a couple of hours ago has never appeared. This is just a test. >>Happens to me once in a while.
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?
You’re here but your reference is off. Andrew McCarthy deep dove the “Brat >Pack” recently so Bueller is now faux pas. Plus Charlie Sheen in that
movie. You should have pre-cleared this!
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 01:50:08 +0000, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by *Hemidactylus*
<ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>:
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:*No* idea what that's all about (or who "Andrew McCarthy"
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?
You’re here but your reference is off. Andrew McCarthy deep dove the “Brat >> Pack” recently so Bueller is now faux pas. Plus Charlie Sheen in that
movie. You should have pre-cleared this!
might be), but OK.
Bob Casanova wrote:
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 01:50:08 +0000, the following appearedPhilistine! What no “Breakfast Club”, “St. Elmo’s Fire”, “Pretty in Pink”,
in talk.origins, posted by *Hemidactylus*
<ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>:
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:*No* idea what that's all about (or who "Andrew McCarthy"
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?
You?re here but your reference is off. Andrew McCarthy deep dove the ?Brat >>> Pack? recently so Bueller is now faux pas. Plus Charlie Sheen in that
movie. You should have pre-cleared this!
might be), but OK.
or the now cringy “Sixteen Candles”? Not even the classic “Weekend at >Bernies” that predicted the coming presidential debate X2? Rob Lowe, Emilio >Estevez, Ally Sheedy, Judd Nelson, Demi Moore, Molly Ringworm? As a stretch >James Spader and Jon Cryer?
And for Bueller (Emilio’s brother does not a Brat Pack movie make): >https://youtu.be/H19uKs99vIw?si=w58UkAgsk_tKoJ_t
He did costar with Cryer in a much loved sitcom before famously melting
down.
On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light.
Bob Casanova wrote:It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos (pbuh)
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
left us.
We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID
proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas.
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:46:13 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:"Alas" for "if he hasn't left", right?
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light.
Bob Casanova wrote:It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos (pbuh) >>> left us.
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID
proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas.
On 2024-06-24 06:28:28 +0000, Bob Casanova said:
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:46:13 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:"Alas" for "if he hasn't left", right?
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light.
Bob Casanova wrote:It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos (pbuh) >>> left us.
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID
proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas.
It may be that it was Ron Dean who was keeping this group alive. In the
1990s I participated in a dicussion group at which someone kept sending idiotic posts, and a lot of the contributions from the sane
participants were stimulated by these. Eventually he left, but, as no
one expected, the group died shortly afterwards. There is a similar
story at sci.lang, much more recently, which is surviving now almost
entirely due to the efforts of one (sane) contributor, but was much
more lively a few years ago, due to the idiotic contributions of one
person.
On 6/22/24 4:49 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...
When I came home last night at three
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall
I couldn't see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door... (slam!)
Last night I saw upon the stair
A little man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away...
- Hughes Mearns
On 2024-06-24 06:28:28 +0000, Bob Casanova said:
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:46:13 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:"Alas" for "if he hasn't left", right?
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light.
Bob Casanova wrote:It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos (pbuh) >>>> left us.
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID
proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas.
It may be that it was Ron Dean who was keeping this group alive. In the
1990s I participated in a dicussion group at which someone kept sending >idiotic posts, and a lot of the contributions from the sane
participants were stimulated by these. Eventually he left, but, as no
one expected, the group died shortly afterwards. There is a similar
story at sci.lang, much more recently, which is surviving now almost
entirely due to the efforts of one (sane) contributor, but was much
more lively a few years ago, due to the idiotic contributions of one
person.
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:17:06 +0200, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Athel Cornish-Bowden
<me@yahoo.com>:
On 2024-06-24 06:28:28 +0000, Bob Casanova said:
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:46:13 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:"Alas" for "if he hasn't left", right?
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light.
Bob Casanova wrote:It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos (pbuh) >>>> left us.
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID
proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas.
It may be that it was Ron Dean who was keeping this group alive. In the >1990s I participated in a dicussion group at which someone kept sending >idiotic posts, and a lot of the contributions from the sane
participants were stimulated by these. Eventually he left, but, as no
one expected, the group died shortly afterwards. There is a similar
story at sci.lang, much more recently, which is surviving now almost >entirely due to the efforts of one (sane) contributor, but was much
more lively a few years ago, due to the idiotic contributions of one >person.
Acknowledged. But I think a larger part of it is that Usenet
itself is becoming obsolete; most people who contributed to
sites such as t.o or sci.skeptic in the past have gone to
following blogs in which comments, thoughtful or otherwise,
are the norm. The serious "sci" sites may still be doing OK,
but I have no real idea if that's the case or if they've
gone to the "blogoverse" as well.
Whatever, 44 years (~30 for me) is/was a good run, and
communications venues *also* evolve.
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:17:06 +0200, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Athel Cornish-Bowden
<me@yahoo.com>:
On 2024-06-24 06:28:28 +0000, Bob Casanova said:Acknowledged. But I think a larger part of it is that Usenet
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:46:13 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:"Alas" for "if he hasn't left", right?
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light.
Bob Casanova wrote:It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos (pbuh)
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
left us.
We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID
proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas.
It may be that it was Ron Dean who was keeping this group alive. In the
1990s I participated in a dicussion group at which someone kept sending
idiotic posts, and a lot of the contributions from the sane
participants were stimulated by these. Eventually he left, but, as no
one expected, the group died shortly afterwards. There is a similar
story at sci.lang, much more recently, which is surviving now almost
entirely due to the efforts of one (sane) contributor, but was much
more lively a few years ago, due to the idiotic contributions of one
person.
itself is becoming obsolete; most people who contributed to
sites such as t.o or sci.skeptic in the past have gone to
following blogs in which comments, thoughtful or otherwise,
are the norm. The serious "sci" sites may still be doing OK,
but I have no real idea if that's the case or if they've
gone to the "blogoverse" as well.
Whatever, 44 years (~30 for me) is/was a good run, and
communications venues *also* evolve.
Not really.
sci.physics is almost exclusively crossposting Russian only, >sci.physics.relativity is mostly a crackpot hangout,
a bit like t.o., but with more crackpot.
The once serious sci.physics.research (moderated by article)
has degenerated almost completely into dialogue
between one civilised crackpot and the moderators,
On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 10:45:14 +0200, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder):
Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:17:06 +0200, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by Athel Cornish-Bowden
<me@yahoo.com>:
On 2024-06-24 06:28:28 +0000, Bob Casanova said:Acknowledged. But I think a larger part of it is that Usenet
On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:46:13 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
On 6/23/24 5:04 PM, *Hemidactylus* wrote:"Alas" for "if he hasn't left", right?
William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:Nyikos (pbuh, indeed) generated a lot of heat, if not so much light. >> >>> We've also apparently lost most if not all creationists, and ID
Bob Casanova wrote:It has slowed down a bit since Google Groups went away and Nyikos
Anybody there? Bueller? Bueller?Yes.
Haven't been seeing any posts lately, myself.
(pbuh) left us.
proponents are down to Ron D, if he hasn't left already. Alas.
It may be that it was Ron Dean who was keeping this group alive. In the >> >1990s I participated in a dicussion group at which someone kept sending >> >idiotic posts, and a lot of the contributions from the sane
participants were stimulated by these. Eventually he left, but, as no
one expected, the group died shortly afterwards. There is a similar
story at sci.lang, much more recently, which is surviving now almost
entirely due to the efforts of one (sane) contributor, but was much
more lively a few years ago, due to the idiotic contributions of one
person.
itself is becoming obsolete; most people who contributed to
sites such as t.o or sci.skeptic in the past have gone to
following blogs in which comments, thoughtful or otherwise,
are the norm. The serious "sci" sites may still be doing OK,
but I have no real idea if that's the case or if they've
gone to the "blogoverse" as well.
Whatever, 44 years (~30 for me) is/was a good run, and
communications venues *also* evolve.
Not really.
sci.physics is almost exclusively crossposting Russian only, >sci.physics.relativity is mostly a crackpot hangout,
a bit like t.o., but with more crackpot.
The once serious sci.physics.research (moderated by article)
has degenerated almost completely into dialogue
between one civilised crackpot and the moderators,
That's a shame, but as I noted I assume the real research
(and other serious) science people are still communicating,
but somewhere other than Usenet.
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