I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the noise.Banning is overkill.
This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read thebe submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos >>>> should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic >>>> harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the
time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.
I doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same
lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't
matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior
he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude
worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is
long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Banning is overkill.
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something
negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking
about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts
that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the noise.
whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he >> could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually
been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment
has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough.
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact >> of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will
be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos >> should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic
harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read the
vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the
time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
I doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same
lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't
matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior
he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude
worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is
long enough for anyone.
Ron OkimotoBanning is overkill.
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking
about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts
that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the noise.
noise. Banning is overkill.This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read theexisted. His second alleged knockdown was the event where he projected >>>> his sadistic behavior onto me. Nyikos had started a side thread and >>>> changed the title claiming that I had done something funny. He had
obviously started the side thread to make fun of me, and he posted
multiple posts claiming that what I had done was really funny but would >>>> not deliver the punch line. He seemed to be savoring every moment of >>>> the extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I >>>> only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not >>>> have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his
sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun >>>> of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3
years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third >>>> knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos
never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The >>>> whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he
could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually >>>> been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment >>>> has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough.
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact
of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will >>>> be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos
should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic >>>> harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the
time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences.
I doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same
lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't
matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior
he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude
worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is
long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and over
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something
negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking
about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts
that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read theexisted. His second alleged knockdown was the event where he projected >>>> his sadistic behavior onto me. Nyikos had started a side thread and >>>> changed the title claiming that I had done something funny. He had
obviously started the side thread to make fun of me, and he posted
multiple posts claiming that what I had done was really funny but would >>>> not deliver the punch line. He seemed to be savoring every moment of >>>> the extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I >>>> only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not >>>> have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his
sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun >>>> of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3
years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third >>>> knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos
never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The >>>> whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he
could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually >>>> been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment >>>> has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough.
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact
of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will >>>> be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos
should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic >>>> harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the
time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences.
I doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same
lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't
matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior
he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude
worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is
long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and over
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
Ron Okimotonoise. Banning is overkill.
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something
negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking
about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts
that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
noise. Banning is overkill.And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences. >>>>What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read thethe extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I >>>>>> only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not >>>>>> have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his
sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun >>>>>> of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3 >>>>>> years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third >>>>>> knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos >>>>>> never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The >>>>>> whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he >>>>>> could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually >>>>>> been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment >>>>>> has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough.
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact >>>>>> of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will >>>>>> be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos >>>>>> should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic >>>>>> harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the
time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone. >>>
Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and overI doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same
lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't
matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior >>>> he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude
worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is
long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that.
Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something >>>> negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking
about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts
that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
The point isn't whether it works for not for Peter, what matters is what works for you. He
used to annoy the hell out of me, but (eventually) relatized it was me lettling that happen.
Now I'm more amused than annoyed, or I just don't read it.
And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences. >>>>What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read thethe extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I >>>>>> only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not >>>>>> have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his
sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun >>>>>> of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3 >>>>>> years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third >>>>>> knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos >>>>>> never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The >>>>>> whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he >>>>>> could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually >>>>>> been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment >>>>>> has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough.
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact >>>>>> of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will >>>>>> be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos >>>>>> should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic >>>>>> harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the
time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone. >>>
Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and overI doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same
lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't
matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior >>>> he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude
worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is
long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that.
You're right that nothing you could do would change him, so why try? Why not just ignore him? Why give him the power to get under your skin?
noise. Banning is overkill.Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Sure it worked for him. I don't engage with him. Since he mentions lots of irrelevant people in his posts I suspect he may mention me from time to time (or not), but so what? No need to try to get him banned.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something >>>> negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking
about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts
that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences. >>>>This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read the >>>> vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass meright some imaginary wrong done to him. Nyikos should make an effort to
come up with any legitimate "knockdown" instances in order to defend his
obnoxious behavior to Grieg. Nyikos could not put up any in the first 4
years of his harassment, and I do not recall any since.
As noted above, a decade ago during the Dirty Debating thread fiasco >>>>>> Nyikos started another thread to harass me claiming that he was going to
put up three instances where he had knocked me down in the boxing ring.
His first alleged knockdown blew up in his face because he made up the
issue. Things did not occur the way that he had claimed. For weeks he >>>>>> ran from what he had done and even lied about me not posting a rebuttal
to the thread. Nyikos couldn't identify any other possible knockdown >>>>>> events that had ever happened, and even though he claimed that he would
produce the other two knockdowns in a week or two, years passed. His >>>>>> stated goal was to achieve a technical knockout, but no knockdowns >>>>>> existed. His second alleged knockdown was the event where he projected
his sadistic behavior onto me. Nyikos had started a side thread and >>>>>> changed the title claiming that I had done something funny. He had >>>>>> obviously started the side thread to make fun of me, and he posted >>>>>> multiple posts claiming that what I had done was really funny but would
not deliver the punch line. He seemed to be savoring every moment of >>>>>> the extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I
only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not
have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his >>>>>> sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun
of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3 >>>>>> years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third
knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos >>>>>> never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The
whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he
could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually
been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment >>>>>> has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough.
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact
of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will
be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos
should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic
harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the >>>> time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.
Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and overI doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same >>>> lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't >>>> matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior >>>> he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude >>>> worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is >>>> long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that.
You're right that nothing you could do would change him, so why try? Why not just ignore him? Why give him the power to get under your skin?The point is that sadistic assholes like Nyikos have no reason to exist
on TO. I was one of the posters that would not respond to Ray's posts
to me. I did that because Ray was insane, and nothing I could do would
help the guy out. With Nyikos it is different because he is a sadistic
lying asshole and does what he does to harass people. Assholes
shouldn't be tolerated especially sadistic harassing assholes. With
Nyikos his harassment has just about never been about anything real. He
will literally make up the junk to harass me with like his last effort
with the Top Six. That is why it always turns out bad for the loser,
and he has never been able to produce his three knockdowns to achieve
his technical knockout. 4 years of harasssing posts and he could never produce a knockdown, and likely hasn't been able to do it since that failure. Nyikos should not be allowed to keep trying for a knockdown
with that sorry record. It has just been over a decade of vile harassment.
Ron Okimotonoise. Banning is overkill.
Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Sure it worked for him. I don't engage with him. Since he mentions lots of irrelevant people in his posts I suspect he may mention me from time to time (or not), but so what? No need to try to get him banned.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something >>>> negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking >>>> about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts >>>> that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
The point is that sadistic assholes like Nyikos have no reason to existAnd they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences. >>>>>>This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read the >>>>>> vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass meput up three instances where he had knocked me down in the boxing ring.
His first alleged knockdown blew up in his face because he made up the >>>>>>>> issue. Things did not occur the way that he had claimed. For weeks he >>>>>>>> ran from what he had done and even lied about me not posting a rebuttal
to the thread. Nyikos couldn't identify any other possible knockdown >>>>>>>> events that had ever happened, and even though he claimed that he would
produce the other two knockdowns in a week or two, years passed. His >>>>>>>> stated goal was to achieve a technical knockout, but no knockdowns >>>>>>>> existed. His second alleged knockdown was the event where he projected >>>>>>>> his sadistic behavior onto me. Nyikos had started a side thread and >>>>>>>> changed the title claiming that I had done something funny. He had >>>>>>>> obviously started the side thread to make fun of me, and he posted >>>>>>>> multiple posts claiming that what I had done was really funny but would
not deliver the punch line. He seemed to be savoring every moment of >>>>>>>> the extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I
only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not >>>>>>>> have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his >>>>>>>> sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun >>>>>>>> of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3 >>>>>>>> years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third
knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos >>>>>>>> never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The >>>>>>>> whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he
could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually >>>>>>>> been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment >>>>>>>> has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough. >>>>>>>>
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact
of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will >>>>>>>> be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos
should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic >>>>>>>> harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so.
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the >>>>>> time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.
Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and overI doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same >>>>>> lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't >>>>>> matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior >>>>>> he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude >>>>>> worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is >>>>>> long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that.
You're right that nothing you could do would change him, so why try? Why not just ignore him? Why give him the power to get under your skin?
on TO. I was one of the posters that would not respond to Ray's posts
to me. I did that because Ray was insane, and nothing I could do would
help the guy out. With Nyikos it is different because he is a sadistic
lying asshole and does what he does to harass people. Assholes
shouldn't be tolerated especially sadistic harassing assholes. With
Nyikos his harassment has just about never been about anything real. He
will literally make up the junk to harass me with like his last effort
with the Top Six. That is why it always turns out bad for the loser,
and he has never been able to produce his three knockdowns to achieve
his technical knockout. 4 years of harasssing posts and he could never
produce a knockdown, and likely hasn't been able to do it since that
failure. Nyikos should not be allowed to keep trying for a knockdown
with that sorry record. It has just been over a decade of vile harassment.
He only has as much power over you as you give him.
noise. Banning is overkill.
Ron Okimoto
Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Sure it worked for him. I don't engage with him. Since he mentions lots of irrelevant people in his posts I suspect he may mention me from time to time (or not), but so what? No need to try to get him banned.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something >>>>>> negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking >>>>>> about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts >>>>>> that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not
mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way. Nobody thinks
the worse of you because some third party says something negative
about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking about will
develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts that
somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt
to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's
perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use
killfiles if you like, or just ignore the noise. Banning is overkill.
I agree.
Probably more than half the posts in this group come from posters with a persistent negative attitude that clearly comes through in their posts.
I don't much like such posts, but I can ignore them. Even those aimed
at me I often ignore, and my life is better for it. Sometimes I
respond, but I try to include on-topic stuff when I do.
Two bits of advice for RonO and others in his position:
1. When you respond to harassment, make sure your response is less than
half as long as the post you are responding to. (This does not apply to disagreements over substantive, on-topic issues.)
2. When you find yourself wrestling with a pig in the mud, remember that
the pig likes it.
The point is that sadistic assholes like Nyikos have no reason to exist >> on TO. I was one of the posters that would not respond to Ray's postsYou're right that nothing you could do would change him, so why try? Why not just ignore him? Why give him the power to get under your skin?And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences.This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read the >>>>>> vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me >>>>>> because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the >>>>>> time he has been just lying about the past.magnitude worse than Nyikos in terms of frequency, but Nyikos has been
at it for over a decade. Enough is enough.
Probably the saddest thing about the Nykosian harassment over the years
is that Nyikos is always shown to be the lying asshole. He has behaved
this way for over a decade (since Dec 2010) and I do not recall anything
that Nyikos has tried to harass me with ever accomplishing anything >>>>>>>> positive for Nyikos. This is due to the fact that Nyikos can't help >>>>>>>> himself and usually makes up the issue that he ends up lying about. >>>>>>>> Every single one of his posts involving the teach ID scam and the ID
perp involvement have been a dead loss for Nyikos. I really can't >>>>>>>> recall any instance where Nyikos was not shown to be the lying asshole
that he is. In his projection of the subject he has claimed that he >>>>>>>> does it because he is a hate filled sadistic maniac that has to try to
right some imaginary wrong done to him. Nyikos should make an effort to
come up with any legitimate "knockdown" instances in order to defend his
obnoxious behavior to Grieg. Nyikos could not put up any in the first 4
years of his harassment, and I do not recall any since.
As noted above, a decade ago during the Dirty Debating thread fiasco
Nyikos started another thread to harass me claiming that he was going to
put up three instances where he had knocked me down in the boxing ring.
His first alleged knockdown blew up in his face because he made up the
issue. Things did not occur the way that he had claimed. For weeks he
ran from what he had done and even lied about me not posting a rebuttal
to the thread. Nyikos couldn't identify any other possible knockdown
events that had ever happened, and even though he claimed that he would
produce the other two knockdowns in a week or two, years passed. His
stated goal was to achieve a technical knockout, but no knockdowns >>>>>>>> existed. His second alleged knockdown was the event where he projected
his sadistic behavior onto me. Nyikos had started a side thread and >>>>>>>> changed the title claiming that I had done something funny. He had >>>>>>>> obviously started the side thread to make fun of me, and he posted >>>>>>>> multiple posts claiming that what I had done was really funny but would
not deliver the punch line. He seemed to be savoring every moment of
the extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I
only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not
have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his >>>>>>>> sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun
of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3 >>>>>>>> years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third
knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos >>>>>>>> never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The
whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he
could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually
been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment
has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough. >>>>>>>>
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact
of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will
be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos
should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic
harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so. >>>>>>>>
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.
Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and over
I doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same >>>>>> lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't >>>>>> matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior
he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude >>>>>> worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is >>>>>> long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that. >>>
to me. I did that because Ray was insane, and nothing I could do would
help the guy out. With Nyikos it is different because he is a sadistic
lying asshole and does what he does to harass people. Assholes
shouldn't be tolerated especially sadistic harassing assholes. With
Nyikos his harassment has just about never been about anything real. He >> will literally make up the junk to harass me with like his last effort
with the Top Six. That is why it always turns out bad for the loser,
and he has never been able to produce his three knockdowns to achieve
his technical knockout. 4 years of harasssing posts and he could never
produce a knockdown, and likely hasn't been able to do it since that
failure. Nyikos should not be allowed to keep trying for a knockdown
with that sorry record. It has just been over a decade of vile harassment.
He only has as much power over you as you give him.He doesn't need any power over anyone. That is why he should be banned
if he can't quit doing what he does. I ignore the asshole until he
starts posting to me, and what I have found out over the years is that
the only way to make him stop is to demonstrate that he is just a lying asshole, and he will quit for a month or two. That should not have to happen.
Just look at this thread. Nyikos has already been caught lying about
the issues. In the past he would continue to lie or snip out the
material and pretend that it never happened for a while in order to
continue the harassment, but he will eventually reach some limit for
lying and quit. He will quit for a while until his liar meter is
recharged and start up again. That is how it has always been, and it
should end. The last dirty debating fiasco should have ended his
harassment because just about everything he has lied about for over a
decade was shown to be Nyikosian lies and stupidity. Instead Nyikos has broadened his horizons and started looking for new things to lie about. Whenever he has done this, it just turns into more that he has to keep
lying about for years, and it should stop.
Ron Okimotonoise. Banning is overkill.
Ron Okimoto
Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Sure it worked for him. I don't engage with him. Since he mentions lots of irrelevant people in his posts I suspect he may mention me from time to time (or not), but so what? No need to try to get him banned.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something
negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking >>>>>> about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts >>>>>> that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
you in essence, spam the group with repetitive posts about "rubes", "perps", scams, bait-and-switch, in a tone that is thoroughly contemptuous of those you disagree with. If being hostile and rude is enough to get someone banned, you would be on theHe doesn't need any power over anyone. That is why he should be bannedHe only has as much power over you as you give him.The point is that sadistic assholes like Nyikos have no reason to exist >>>> on TO. I was one of the posters that would not respond to Ray's postsYou're right that nothing you could do would change him, so why try? Why not just ignore him? Why give him the power to get under your skin?And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences.This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read the >>>>>>>> vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me >>>>>>>> because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the >>>>>>>> time he has been just lying about the past.that Nyikos has tried to harass me with ever accomplishing anything >>>>>>>>>> positive for Nyikos. This is due to the fact that Nyikos can't help >>>>>>>>>> himself and usually makes up the issue that he ends up lying about. >>>>>>>>>> Every single one of his posts involving the teach ID scam and the ID >>>>>>>>>> perp involvement have been a dead loss for Nyikos. I really can't >>>>>>>>>> recall any instance where Nyikos was not shown to be the lying asshole
that he is. In his projection of the subject he has claimed that he >>>>>>>>>> does it because he is a hate filled sadistic maniac that has to try to
right some imaginary wrong done to him. Nyikos should make an effort to
come up with any legitimate "knockdown" instances in order to defend his
obnoxious behavior to Grieg. Nyikos could not put up any in the first 4
years of his harassment, and I do not recall any since.
As noted above, a decade ago during the Dirty Debating thread fiasco >>>>>>>>>> Nyikos started another thread to harass me claiming that he was going to
put up three instances where he had knocked me down in the boxing ring.
His first alleged knockdown blew up in his face because he made up the
issue. Things did not occur the way that he had claimed. For weeks he
ran from what he had done and even lied about me not posting a rebuttal
to the thread. Nyikos couldn't identify any other possible knockdown >>>>>>>>>> events that had ever happened, and even though he claimed that he would
produce the other two knockdowns in a week or two, years passed. His >>>>>>>>>> stated goal was to achieve a technical knockout, but no knockdowns >>>>>>>>>> existed. His second alleged knockdown was the event where he projected
his sadistic behavior onto me. Nyikos had started a side thread and >>>>>>>>>> changed the title claiming that I had done something funny. He had >>>>>>>>>> obviously started the side thread to make fun of me, and he posted >>>>>>>>>> multiple posts claiming that what I had done was really funny but would
not deliver the punch line. He seemed to be savoring every moment of >>>>>>>>>> the extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I
only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not
have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his >>>>>>>>>> sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun
of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3 >>>>>>>>>> years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third
knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos >>>>>>>>>> never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The
whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he
could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually
been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment
has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough. >>>>>>>>>>
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact
of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will
be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos
should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic
harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so. >>>>>>>>>>
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.
Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and over
I doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same >>>>>>>> lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't >>>>>>>> matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior >>>>>>>> he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude >>>>>>>> worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is >>>>>>>> long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that. >>>>>
to me. I did that because Ray was insane, and nothing I could do would >>>> help the guy out. With Nyikos it is different because he is a sadistic >>>> lying asshole and does what he does to harass people. Assholes
shouldn't be tolerated especially sadistic harassing assholes. With
Nyikos his harassment has just about never been about anything real. He >>>> will literally make up the junk to harass me with like his last effort >>>> with the Top Six. That is why it always turns out bad for the loser,
and he has never been able to produce his three knockdowns to achieve
his technical knockout. 4 years of harasssing posts and he could never >>>> produce a knockdown, and likely hasn't been able to do it since that
failure. Nyikos should not be allowed to keep trying for a knockdown
with that sorry record. It has just been over a decade of vile harassment. >>>
if he can't quit doing what he does. I ignore the asshole until he
starts posting to me, and what I have found out over the years is that
the only way to make him stop is to demonstrate that he is just a lying
asshole, and he will quit for a month or two. That should not have to
happen.
Then you need to ignore him even when he posts to you. Otherwise, you're giving him the power to make you feel upset enough to want to ban him. And honestly if the argument to ban him succeeds, an equally good argument could be made for banning you -
noise. Banning is overkill.
Just look at this thread. Nyikos has already been caught lying about
the issues. In the past he would continue to lie or snip out the
material and pretend that it never happened for a while in order to
continue the harassment, but he will eventually reach some limit for
lying and quit. He will quit for a while until his liar meter is
recharged and start up again. That is how it has always been, and it
should end. The last dirty debating fiasco should have ended his
harassment because just about everything he has lied about for over a
decade was shown to be Nyikosian lies and stupidity. Instead Nyikos has
broadened his horizons and started looking for new things to lie about.
Whenever he has done this, it just turns into more that he has to keep
lying about for years, and it should stop.
The only thing you can control is how you react.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Sure it worked for him. I don't engage with him. Since he mentions lots of irrelevant people in his posts I suspect he may mention me from time to time (or not), but so what? No need to try to get him banned.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something >>>>>>>> negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking >>>>>>>> about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts >>>>>>>> that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore the
you in essence, spam the group with repetitive posts about "rubes", "perps", scams, bait-and-switch, in a tone that is thoroughly contemptuous of those you disagree with. If being hostile and rude is enough to get someone banned, you would be on the list,He doesn't need any power over anyone. That is why he should be bannedThe point is that sadistic assholes like Nyikos have no reason to exist >>>> on TO. I was one of the posters that would not respond to Ray's posts >>>> to me. I did that because Ray was insane, and nothing I could do would >>>> help the guy out. With Nyikos it is different because he is a sadistic >>>> lying asshole and does what he does to harass people. AssholesYou're right that nothing you could do would change him, so why try? Why not just ignore him? Why give him the power to get under your skin?And they just shouldn't do what they do, so there should be consequences.This is stupid because Nyikos posts directly to me. I don't read thelying about the same thing and will give it up for a month or two, but
only restarts lying about the past once he thinks that it is OK to do so
again. He has no reason to keep harassing me.
The harassment about the dirty debating issues should have ended long
before the later part of last year. What consistently happens is that
Nyikos resorts to broadening the topics that he has to lie about. He
has always known that he was wrong about the involvement of the ID perps
in the bait and switch, and all of the dirty debating nonsense >>>>>>>>>> accumulated due to his propensity to lie about other issues in order to
harass me about his being wrong about something as stupid as the ID
perps running the teach ID scam. He got shut down hard last August and
has been accumulating more stupidity to harass me about since. The
harassment should have never started. Kleinman may have been an order of
magnitude worse than Nyikos in terms of frequency, but Nyikos has been
at it for over a decade. Enough is enough.
Probably the saddest thing about the Nykosian harassment over the years
is that Nyikos is always shown to be the lying asshole. He has behaved
this way for over a decade (since Dec 2010) and I do not recall anything
that Nyikos has tried to harass me with ever accomplishing anything
positive for Nyikos. This is due to the fact that Nyikos can't help
himself and usually makes up the issue that he ends up lying about.
Every single one of his posts involving the teach ID scam and the ID
perp involvement have been a dead loss for Nyikos. I really can't >>>>>>>>>> recall any instance where Nyikos was not shown to be the lying asshole
that he is. In his projection of the subject he has claimed that he
does it because he is a hate filled sadistic maniac that has to try to
right some imaginary wrong done to him. Nyikos should make an effort to
come up with any legitimate "knockdown" instances in order to defend his
obnoxious behavior to Grieg. Nyikos could not put up any in the first 4
years of his harassment, and I do not recall any since. >>>>>>>>>>
As noted above, a decade ago during the Dirty Debating thread fiasco
Nyikos started another thread to harass me claiming that he was going to
put up three instances where he had knocked me down in the boxing ring.
His first alleged knockdown blew up in his face because he made up the
issue. Things did not occur the way that he had claimed. For weeks he
ran from what he had done and even lied about me not posting a rebuttal
to the thread. Nyikos couldn't identify any other possible knockdown
events that had ever happened, and even though he claimed that he would
produce the other two knockdowns in a week or two, years passed. His
stated goal was to achieve a technical knockout, but no knockdowns
existed. His second alleged knockdown was the event where he projected
his sadistic behavior onto me. Nyikos had started a side thread and
changed the title claiming that I had done something funny. He had
obviously started the side thread to make fun of me, and he posted
multiple posts claiming that what I had done was really funny but would
not deliver the punch line. He seemed to be savoring every moment of
the extended trial, but when he finally produced what was "so funny", I
only had to point out that Google didn't work that way, so I could not
have been guilty of doing anything "funny". Nyikos went into his >>>>>>>>>> sadistic hate filled rage, as if I had been the one trying to make fun
of him, and that was supposed to be his second knockdown. Around 3
years would pass before Nyikos informed me that he had posted the third
knockdown, but he wouldn't tell me where or give me a link. Nyikos
never provided any evidence that the third knockdown ever existed. The
whole 3 additional years of harassment had come to naught for Nyikos, he
could never come up with an instance where his harassment had actually
been about anything real for those 3 years and before. His harassment
has been like that for over a decade, and that is long enough. >>>>>>>>>>
If Nyikos wants to continue his harassment he should reflect on the fact
of how dismal his efforts have been for him. These posts are what will
be submitted to Grieg in order to support his banning from TO, so Nyikos
should reflect on the facts of the last decade of his stupid assoholic
harassment.
Nyikos can stop his harassment or he should be made to do so. >>>>>>>>>>
Ron Okimoto
Ron, just as was the case with Alan Kleinman, it is perfectly easy to ignore this guy. Just because somebody names you in a post does not mean you have to respond or pay attention in any way.
vast majority of junk Nyikos posts to TO. He does it to harass me >>>>>>>> because he never seems to have a valid point to make, and most of the
time he has been just lying about the past.
I don't post to Nyikos, and he is the one that should just leave me alone.
What other people should do is sort of irrelevant. Other people will do what they will do. You only get to choose whether or not you will pay attention to them.
Kleinman was insane and kept posting the same thing over and over >>>>>> because he was insane, and nothing that I could do would change that. >>>>>
I doubt that you could have ignored Kleinman. He would post the same
lies to me multip[le times a day and in multiple threads. It didn't >>>>>>>> matter what the topic of the thread was. After a year of such behavior
he just had to go. As I have stated he was just an order of magnitude
worse than Nyikos, but over a decade of doing the same stupid junk is
long enough for anyone.
Kleinman posted the same things to you over and over because you kept responding.
shouldn't be tolerated especially sadistic harassing assholes. With >>>> Nyikos his harassment has just about never been about anything real. He >>>> will literally make up the junk to harass me with like his last effort >>>> with the Top Six. That is why it always turns out bad for the loser, >>>> and he has never been able to produce his three knockdowns to achieve >>>> his technical knockout. 4 years of harasssing posts and he could never >>>> produce a knockdown, and likely hasn't been able to do it since that >>>> failure. Nyikos should not be allowed to keep trying for a knockdown >>>> with that sorry record. It has just been over a decade of vile harassment.
He only has as much power over you as you give him.
if he can't quit doing what he does. I ignore the asshole until he
starts posting to me, and what I have found out over the years is that
the only way to make him stop is to demonstrate that he is just a lying >> asshole, and he will quit for a month or two. That should not have to
happen.
Then you need to ignore him even when he posts to you. Otherwise, you're giving him the power to make you feel upset enough to want to ban him. And honestly if the argument to ban him succeeds, an equally good argument could be made for banning you -
Giving Nyikos power is what you are doing. Enabling the asshole should
make you feel pretty low. That shouldn't happen to anyone. No one
should have to feel slimy and dirty for supporting Nyikosian endeavors.
Ron Okimotothe noise. Banning is overkill.
Just look at this thread. Nyikos has already been caught lying about
the issues. In the past he would continue to lie or snip out the
material and pretend that it never happened for a while in order to
continue the harassment, but he will eventually reach some limit for
lying and quit. He will quit for a while until his liar meter is
recharged and start up again. That is how it has always been, and it
should end. The last dirty debating fiasco should have ended his
harassment because just about everything he has lied about for over a
decade was shown to be Nyikosian lies and stupidity. Instead Nyikos has >> broadened his horizons and started looking for new things to lie about. >> Whenever he has done this, it just turns into more that he has to keep
lying about for years, and it should stop.
The only thing you can control is how you react.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Tell me if it ever worked for Nyikos.
If you stop responding to annoying people they eventually get bored and go off to annoy someone else. They may mention you from time to time, but with a bit of patience, ignoring them works fine.
Sure it worked for him. I don't engage with him. Since he mentions lots of irrelevant people in his posts I suspect he may mention me from time to time (or not), but so what? No need to try to get him banned.
Ron Okimoto
Ron Okimoto
Nobody thinks the worse of you because some third party says something
negative about you. Anybody whose opinion is remotely worth thinking
about will develop that opinion by reading your own posts, not posts
that somebody else writes about you.
I'm not a fan of your own posts myself, too high a ratio of contempt to content, but I see no reason to ask for you to be banned. It's perfectly easy to ignore what I don't find interesting to read. Use killfiles if you like, or just ignore
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