• Mass Extinctions

    From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 24 12:12:12 2023
    The following is a link is to a 25-minute Youtube video. The narrator identifies 13 of the most severe mass extinctions on Earth, and
    describes their likely causes:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssGgRdAHrg>



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  • From =?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?=@21:1/5 to jillery on Tue Apr 25 01:26:49 2023
    On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 19:15:30 UTC+3, jillery wrote:
    The following is a link is to a 25-minute Youtube video. The narrator identifies 13 of the most severe mass extinctions on Earth, and
    describes their likely causes:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssGgRdAHrg>

    About 1 specie goes extinct during one watches that video.
    It is because they were killed or their living habitat was destroyed
    by humans either actively and directly or collaterally.

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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 25 09:37:05 2023
    On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:26:49 -0700 (PDT), Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee>
    wrote:

    On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 19:15:30 UTC+3, jillery wrote:
    The following is a link is to a 25-minute Youtube video. The narrator
    identifies 13 of the most severe mass extinctions on Earth, and
    describes their likely causes:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssGgRdAHrg>

    About 1 specie goes extinct during one watches that video.
    It is because they were killed or their living habitat was destroyed
    by humans either actively and directly or collaterally.


    Your comment above refers to the current mass extinction, where
    species disappear even before scientists have a chance to record their existence.

    As you say, the current mass extinction is due directly to humans
    killing them, and indirectly to humans destroying habitats. In turn,
    habitat loss is due directly to humans paving them over, and
    indirectly to human-caused rapid climate change.

    On a lighter note, I can't imagine how any species go extinct because
    humans whatch this video. No reason to guilt people because they have
    nothing better to do than watch Youtube.

    A book I like to recommend is "Extinction: Bad Genes or Bad Luck" by
    David Raup. Contrary to some people's intuition, bad genes almost
    never cause extinctions. Instead, extinctions are almost always a case
    of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. In the case of mass extinctions, the wrong place is the entire Earth. The objection to
    reviving extinct species because "they were already selected out" is wrong-headed.

    Almost all species that ever lived have gone extinct. Almost all
    species that live now will almost certainly go extinct sooner or
    later, including God's special creation. Life on Earth is a lottery.
    The longer a species survives, the more likely it will go extinct just
    by chance.

    Early naturalists and modern Creationists reconcile these facts with
    their notions of a perfect Creator God by relying on a literal
    interpretation of Noah's Flood, and ignoring the question of why
    anything should drown because God made a mistake.

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  • From =?UTF-8?B?w5bDtiBUaWli?=@21:1/5 to jillery on Tue Apr 25 08:15:18 2023
    On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 16:40:31 UTC+3, jillery wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:26:49 -0700 (PDT), Öö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee>
    wrote:
    On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 19:15:30 UTC+3, jillery wrote:
    The following is a link is to a 25-minute Youtube video. The narrator
    identifies 13 of the most severe mass extinctions on Earth, and
    describes their likely causes:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssGgRdAHrg>

    About 1 specie goes extinct during one watches that video.
    It is because they were killed or their living habitat was destroyed
    by humans either actively and directly or collaterally.

    Your comment above refers to the current mass extinction, where
    species disappear even before scientists have a chance to record their existence.

    As you say, the current mass extinction is due directly to humans
    killing them, and indirectly to humans destroying habitats. In turn,
    habitat loss is due directly to humans paving them over, and
    indirectly to human-caused rapid climate change.

    On a lighter note, I can't imagine how any species go extinct because
    humans whatch this video. No reason to guilt people because they have nothing better to do than watch Youtube.

    It is good video .. I just wanted to support your effort by mentioning
    high severity of ongoing Holocene mass extinction event.

    A book I like to recommend is "Extinction: Bad Genes or Bad Luck" by
    David Raup. Contrary to some people's intuition, bad genes almost
    never cause extinctions. Instead, extinctions are almost always a case
    of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. In the case of mass extinctions, the wrong place is the entire Earth. The objection to
    reviving extinct species because "they were already selected out" is wrong-headed.

    Almost all species that ever lived have gone extinct. Almost all
    species that live now will almost certainly go extinct sooner or
    later, including God's special creation. Life on Earth is a lottery.
    The longer a species survives, the more likely it will go extinct just
    by chance.

    Early naturalists and modern Creationists reconcile these facts with
    their notions of a perfect Creator God by relying on a literal interpretation of Noah's Flood, and ignoring the question of why
    anything should drown because God made a mistake.

    Things may take various turns. I see more and more people and
    also media taking critical stance towards our wasteful and
    non-sustainable activities. Hopefully it is not too late.

    Interesting story that early in pandemic here people were
    avoiding moving in public if possible. It became so quiet that even
    young brown bear mother with a cub did enter our capital once. <https://news.err.ee/1090307/aleksei-turovski-bears-spotted-in-tallinn-emboldened-by-lack-of-people>
    Bears managed to leave without being caught despite decent
    police effort was made ... so quite clever and lucky animals.
    Winners so far.

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  • From jillery@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 26 02:41:25 2023
    On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 08:15:18 -0700 (PDT), Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, 25 April 2023 at 16:40:31 UTC+3, jillery wrote:
    On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 01:26:49 -0700 (PDT), Öö Tiib <oot...@hot.ee>
    wrote:
    On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 19:15:30 UTC+3, jillery wrote:
    The following is a link is to a 25-minute Youtube video. The narrator
    identifies 13 of the most severe mass extinctions on Earth, and
    describes their likely causes:

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WssGgRdAHrg>

    About 1 specie goes extinct during one watches that video.
    It is because they were killed or their living habitat was destroyed
    by humans either actively and directly or collaterally.

    Your comment above refers to the current mass extinction, where
    species disappear even before scientists have a chance to record their
    existence.

    As you say, the current mass extinction is due directly to humans
    killing them, and indirectly to humans destroying habitats. In turn,
    habitat loss is due directly to humans paving them over, and
    indirectly to human-caused rapid climate change.

    On a lighter note, I can't imagine how any species go extinct because
    humans whatch this video. No reason to guilt people because they have
    nothing better to do than watch Youtube.

    It is good video .. I just wanted to support your effort by mentioning
    high severity of ongoing Holocene mass extinction event.


    Thank you for your support.


    A book I like to recommend is "Extinction: Bad Genes or Bad Luck" by
    David Raup. Contrary to some people's intuition, bad genes almost
    never cause extinctions. Instead, extinctions are almost always a case
    of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. In the case of mass
    extinctions, the wrong place is the entire Earth. The objection to
    reviving extinct species because "they were already selected out" is
    wrong-headed.

    Almost all species that ever lived have gone extinct. Almost all
    species that live now will almost certainly go extinct sooner or
    later, including God's special creation. Life on Earth is a lottery.
    The longer a species survives, the more likely it will go extinct just
    by chance.

    Early naturalists and modern Creationists reconcile these facts with
    their notions of a perfect Creator God by relying on a literal
    interpretation of Noah's Flood, and ignoring the question of why
    anything should drown because God made a mistake.

    Things may take various turns. I see more and more people and
    also media taking critical stance towards our wasteful and
    non-sustainable activities. Hopefully it is not too late.

    Interesting story that early in pandemic here people were
    avoiding moving in public if possible. It became so quiet that even
    young brown bear mother with a cub did enter our capital once. ><https://news.err.ee/1090307/aleksei-turovski-bears-spotted-in-tallinn-emboldened-by-lack-of-people>
    Bears managed to leave without being caught despite decent
    police effort was made ... so quite clever and lucky animals.
    Winners so far.

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    You're entitled to your own opinions.
    You're not entitled to your own facts.

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