| This month, the global sea surface hit a new record high temperature.
| It has never warmed this much, this quickly.
Öö Tiib wrote:
| This month, the global sea surface hit a new record high temperature.Pure bullshit. As of April 9, the La Nina supposedly ended.
| It has never warmed this much, this quickly.
"La Nina" means COLDER THAN NORMAL ocean temperatures.
It is NOT -- I repeat: NOT -- a case where we are in a El Nino,
which would be WARMER than normal sea temperatures.
We are NOT in a El Nino.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/march-2023-enso-update-no-more-la-niña#:~:text=La%20Niña—the%20cool%20phase,“Final%20La%20Niña%20Advisory”.
They BELIEVE we will be in one soon enough, as we are so
overdue after a triple-dip La Nina (COLDER than normal
ocean temperatures) but we are NOT in a Le Nina right now.
Pretty much all the climate hysterics labelled "Science" is
like this: Totally made up.
We are not in a El Nino
On Thursday, 27 April 2023 at 20:25:33 UTC+3, JTEM is my hero wrote:In the eastern Pacific balanced out by warmer than normal in the western Pacific. No real effect on global ocean surface temperature.
Öö Tiib wrote:
| This month, the global sea surface hit a new record high temperature.Pure bullshit. As of April 9, the La Nina supposedly ended.
| It has never warmed this much, this quickly.
"La Nina" means COLDER THAN NORMAL ocean temperatures.
It is NOT -- I repeat: NOT -- a case where we are in a El Nino,
which would be WARMER than normal sea temperatures.
We are NOT in a El Nino.
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/march-2023-enso-update-no-more-la-niña#:~:text=La%20Niña—the%20cool%20phase,“Final%20La%20Niña%20Advisory”.
They BELIEVE we will be in one soon enough, as we are so
overdue after a triple-dip La Nina (COLDER than normal
ocean temperatures) but we are NOT in a Le Nina right now.
Pretty much all the climate hysterics labelled "Science" is
like this: Totally made up.
We are not in a El Nino nor in a La Nina but on climate territory
not charted ever. <https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/26/accelerating-ocean-warming-earth-temperatures-climate-crisis>
Your posting of denial do not alter reality that we have to
"enjoy" as result.
In the eastern
Öö Tiib wrote:
We are not in a El NinoSo you just admitted that your cite is total bullshit. Because it was claiming record high temperatures when the temperatures aren't
high at all. Period. You just admitted that. "Unusually high" temperatures would mean we are in an El Nino and we are not in an El Nino.
We just recovered from a TRIPLE DIP La Nina: COLDER than normal
ocean temperatures. So we're overdue for a El Nino but we're not in
one. Nobody is recording record high temperatures. Nobody is recording abnormally high temperatures. It's all bullshit.
You err. The BBC article is describing a record
high temperature and record increase this year
/before/ the expected start of "El Nino".
La Nina does not make the sea cooler. It just
pauses making it hotter.
, Robert Carnegie wrote:
You err. The BBC article is describing a recordSo some new "Record high" and it's not even unusually
high temperature and record increase this year
/before/ the expected start of "El Nino".
high but it's a "Record," this BELOW anything unusual
because... wtf?
They call it "Fake news" for a reason and they call you
"Gullible" for a reason as well.
La Nina does not make the sea cooler. It just
pauses making it hotter.
La Nina is COLDER THAN NORMAL ocean temperatures.
Whole ocean surface
Öö Tiib wrote:
Whole ocean surface
You're not taking temperatures. You're getting information from government agencies, bodies that exist to carry out policy. They don't make policy. They
aren't allowed to make policy. They can even be prosecuted for "Leaking" information they are ordered to not leak.
The Holocene is not warm. It's cold. It's cold and it's overdue to end, bringing
a return of mile-tall glaciers scraping much of the northern hemisphere clean.
The previous interglacial -- previous to the Holocene -- saw warmer temperatures
and higher sea levels.
Ocean temperatures are not presently hot. You claimed a "record" high but they're not even abnormally high, much less a record.
NOTHING and I do mean absolutely NOTHING in the Gwobull Warblng gospels
maps to any reduction in CO2, much less a reduction to a point BELOW what the narrative claims got Gwobull Warbling started in the first place.
Pretend you're not a mentally deranged sock puppet and Google it:
WHEN did your imaginary Gwobull Warbling start?
WHAT were emissions at that point?
Start there. It's called "Square One."
Start at this "Square One" and then using that basis you can frame all your Gwobull Warbling hysterics within your own narrative.... and spend the rest of your life dealing with the inconsistencies.
On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 17:25:09 UTC+3, JTEM is my hero wrote:
Öö Tiib wrote:That is unbelievable conspiracy theory. The temperature sensors do not belong to some government agency. The recorded data by those also do not belong to some government agency. The countries and organisations measuring same
Whole ocean surface
You're not taking temperatures. You're getting information from government >> agencies, bodies that exist to carry out policy. They don't make policy. They
aren't allowed to make policy. They can even be prosecuted for "Leaking"
information they are ordered to not leak.
and confirming each other are often far from friendly. So something is faking all of it? Must be we have scientific proof of existence of Satan? Give it to discotute.
That is unbelievable conspiracy theory.
Plus, there are innumerable other signs of global warming that have
nothing to do with government agencies. The Nenana Ice Classic allows
people to bet on when the ice thaws on the Tenana River, Alaska. It has
over 100 years of data
If anyone is telling you that global warming is not occurring, you can
be certain that your source has less than zero reliability.
On 5/2/23 8:21 AM, Öö Tiib wrote:
On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 17:25:09 UTC+3, JTEM is my hero wrote:Plus, there are innumerable other signs of global warming that have
Öö Tiib wrote:That is unbelievable conspiracy theory. The temperature sensors do not belong
Whole ocean surface
You're not taking temperatures. You're getting information from government
agencies, bodies that exist to carry out policy. They don't make policy. They
aren't allowed to make policy. They can even be prosecuted for "Leaking" >> information they are ordered to not leak.
to some government agency. The recorded data by those also do not belong to
some government agency. The countries and organisations measuring same
and confirming each other are often far from friendly. So something is faking
all of it? Must be we have scientific proof of existence of Satan? Give it to
discotute.
nothing to do with government agencies. The Nenana Ice Classic allows
people to bet on when the ice thaws on the Tenana River, Alaska. It has
over 100 years of data, which show that the trend is towards earlier melting. Multiple media outlets reported on unprecedented ocean heat
which killed oyster beds, and if you didn't believe them, you could have visited the sites yourself and taken a whiff. Commercial cruises
through the Northwest Passage are now available. My own eyes can attest
to an increase in wildfire smoke in the last decade.
If anyone is telling you that global warming is not occurring, you can
be certain that your source has less than zero reliability.
Öö Tiib wrote:
That is unbelievable conspiracy theory.No. You're an idiot.
Government agency exist to carry out government policy. These are not Benevolent Societies. The fact that you need to be told this undermines
you and anything you might possibly say on the topic... "Government
agencies that exist to carry out government policies, not make it? KOOKY CONSPIRACY THEORY!"
You simply have a child's view of how the earth works.
Öö Tiib wrote:
Whole ocean surface
You're not taking temperatures.
You're getting information from government agencies,
bodies that exist to carry out policy. They don't make policy. They
aren't allowed to make policy. They can even be prosecuted for "Leaking" >information they are ordered to not leak.
The Holocene is not warm. It's cold.
It's cold and it's overdue to end, bringing
a return of mile-tall glaciers scraping much of the northern hemisphere clean. >The previous interglacial -- previous to the Holocene -- saw warmer temperatures
and higher sea levels.
Ocean temperatures are not presently hot. You claimed a "record" high but >they're not even abnormally high, much less a record.
NOTHING and I do mean absolutely NOTHING in the Gwobull Warblng gospels
maps to any reduction in CO2, much less a reduction to a point BELOW what
the narrative claims got Gwobull Warbling started in the first place.
Pretend you're not a mentally deranged sock puppet and Google it:
WHEN did your imaginary Gwobull Warbling start?
WHAT were emissions at that point?
Start there. It's called "Square One."
Start at this "Square One" and then using that basis you can frame all your >Gwobull Warbling hysterics within your own narrative.... and spend the rest >of your life dealing with the inconsistencies.
JTEM enlightened us all with:
You're not taking temperatures.
Neither are you.
You're getting information from government agencies
So where are YOU getting your information?
The Holocene is not warm. It's cold.
Compared to what?
The previous interglacial -- previous to the Holocene -- saw warmer temperatures
and higher sea levels.
Start at this "Square One" and then using that basis you can frame all your >Gwobull Warbling hysterics within your own narrative.... and spend the rest >of your life dealing with the inconsistencies.
You first.
You're not taking temperatures.
Neither are you.
What difference does it make?
You're getting information from government agencies
So where are YOU getting your information?
Most of it comes from my interest in history and human origins.
The Holocene is not warm. It's cold.
Compared to what?
I explained, nimrod:
The previous interglacial -- previous to the Holocene -- saw warmer temperatures
and higher sea levels.
If you want to know if the Holocene is warm, you compare it to the previous >interglacial and find out that it's cold. Sea level is low.
If you want to know if the industrial age during the Holocene is anomalously >warm, you compare it to non-industrial periods of warmth during the Holocene >and see that it's cool.
Peaks seen previous to the industrial era were higher -- it was warmer -- during
the present.
Start at this "Square One" and then using that basis you can frame all your
Gwobull Warbling hysterics within your own narrative.... and spend the rest
of your life dealing with the inconsistencies.
You first.
"Lee Olsen" spazz? I went first. Before you. And explained everything. And >your stupidity coupled to your personality disorder is causing you to say >stupid things.
My usenet diety, the belovedJTEM truthed:
You're not taking temperatures.
Neither are you.
What difference does it make?If it makes no difference, then you had no good reason to mention it.
You're getting information from government agencies
So where are YOU getting your information?
Most of it comes from my interest in history and human origins.
Unless you're speaking of Revealed Truth
The previous interglacial -- previous to the Holocene -- saw warmer temperatures
and higher sea levels.
If that's your "explanation"
Global temperatures and sea levels have been higher AND lower in the
past.
The previous interglacial has no special relevance to current
climate.
JTEM is my hero wrote:
Government agency exist to carry out government policy. These are not Benevolent Societies.
Read what you write? Plain hysteric idiocy.
Öö Tiib wrote:
JTEM is my hero wrote:At your age there's probably no hope for you. Go on, stay batshit crazy.
Government agency exist to carry out government policy. These are not Benevolent Societies.Read what you write? Plain hysteric idiocy.
No amount of therapy & medication is going to force you to a cure.
You'd have to want one.
I already told
Öö Tiib wrote:
I already told
Using many different sock puppets.
The batshit crazy lie in Gwobull Warbling is that the climate is supposed
to somehow remain stagnant.
It can't. If it's not getting warmer it's
getting colder, and colder means death to most of humanity: Billions of >people.
Warmer is far, Far, FAR better!
If it was a dog they'd be put down, jillery messed:
My usenet diety, the belovedJTEM truthed:
If it makes no difference, then you had no good reason to mention it.You're not taking temperatures.
Neither are you.
What difference does it make?
Of course I did. Because I was responding to your idiotic claims
regarding record highs when it's not even unusually warm, much
less a record.
You're getting information from government agencies
So where are YOU getting your information?
Most of it comes from my interest in history and human origins.
Yup. If you're interested in these topics, you've been educated on
climate throughout history and pre history so you can spot bullshit
claims reported by the media as "Science."
Unless you're speaking of Revealed Truth
Again, if you weren't a sick, twisted personality disorder, if you had
any actual interest in these topics, you would know all about the
Quaternary Period -- in which the entire evolutionary history of the
genus Homo took place -- you'd know it was an ice age, you'd know
about the Glacial/Interglacial cycle, you'd know we are inside a >not-very-warm interglacial called the Holocene... you'd know that the >previous interglacial was warmer, as was the one before that...
The previous interglacial -- previous to the Holocene -- saw warmer temperatures
and higher sea levels.
If that's your "explanation"
It's called a "Fact." Conclusions are based on "Facts." Gwobull Warbling
is based on bullshit.
Global temperatures and sea levels have been higher AND lower in the
past.
HIGHER...
than the present. So the claim that it can't be as warm as it is
now without AGW is utter bullshit.
The previous interglacial has no special relevance to current
climate.
You're a lying sack of shit and a moron.
If you want to know if the present interglacial is anomalously warm
you have to compare it to the previous interglacial, not itself.
If you want to pretend that industrialization is warming the planet,
you have to compare the present to a time when there was no >industrialization. The previous interglacial took place even before
the Out of Africa dispersal claims. It is about as perfect a data point
to compare the present to as anyone can hope for.
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