JTEM is my hero wrote:


AN adult is talking, johnjohn, go play until dinner.

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JTEM is my hero wrote:

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
[---just another symptom of the D.I.D. system---]

So people aren't labeling actions as objects -- nouns -- because
they are and that makes sense and they're not it doing plus there's
nothing wrong with it...

"Tools" are nouns, objects. If you can't show we 500,000 year old

They're building a building. One word used as both noun and verb.

Chimp tools, 1 million year old Chimp tools then Chimps don't
use tools. They engage in actions.

The clue for you lunatics is that you have to witness the action
in order for you to imagine a tool. This is the clue that you're > losing bladder control over a verb, not a noun.

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Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

JTEM is my hero wrote:

AN adult is talking, johnjohn, go play until dinner.

JTEM makes Glenn seem rather cordial, intellectual, and humane by
comparison. He’s pretty much a crank and shitposter. Most people seem to ignore him as he’s also a vampire that feeds off negativity. He’s also a narcissist and I’ve given the kook more attention than he deserves.
Jonathan would be preferable. Sadly Ray is no longer with us, at least in
the sense of posting. Which side of the ground he’s on has never been confirmed to my knowledge.

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 04:44:45 +0000, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by *Hemidactylus*
<ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>:

Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

JTEM is my hero wrote:

AN adult is talking, johnjohn, go play until dinner.

JTEM makes Glenn seem rather cordial, intellectual, and humane by
comparison. He’s pretty much a crank and shitposter. Most people seem to >ignore him as he’s also a vampire that feeds off negativity. He’s also a >narcissist and I’ve given the kook more attention than he deserves.
Jonathan would be preferable. Sadly Ray is no longer with us, at least in
the sense of posting. Which side of the ground he’s on has never been >confirmed to my knowledge.

Confirmed? No. But at the time he disappeared from t.o
someone posted a cite to an obituary for a "Ray Martinez"
from the area from which he posted, and he's never shown up
here again. Not proof, but pretty conclusive, IMHO.

As for the JTEM thing, it's not worth the time; your
evaluation seems accurate.

--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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Pro Plyd wrote:
[OCPD]

The oldest monkey fossils found in the Americas are presently
dated at 36 million years. Monkeys were already diversified at
that point. If you pretend that monkeys use tools -- and you do --
then the history of tools is unknown and unknowable because
you're missing roughly 36 million years of their history in
Monkeys alone.

Let's talk birds: If birds use tools, and according to your mental
illness they do, that means we're only missing roughly 150
million years of evidence, of knowledge. There's simply a small
matter of 150 million years missing from the history of tools.

Oo! But you mouth breaths expand your idiocy to invertebrates!

So, even if we look back no further than the Cambrian Explosion,
your incredibly stupid use of the word "Tools" necessitates a
gap in knowledge and evidence that's half a billion years in length.

Science is specific. Science needs to be "Precise." And the
language science uses needs to be precise. However, the way you
idiots misuse the word "Tools" is the opposite. It doesn't convey
information. It's not specific. It has no significance what so ever.

It's not how science CAN WORK much less does work.

You don't know this. You have no clue.




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Bob Casanova wrote:

[...]

Oh, cool, taking the ol' "Bob" symptom out for a spin! That's nice
With so many alters to work through, and you being as intellectually
stunted as you are, it must be difficult at times... keeping up... not
that you do.

Is this really better for you than therapy? Acting this way?

It's not what someone who regards themselves highly would do.





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On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 9:35:55 PM UTC-7, Pro Plyd wrote:

JTEM is my hero wrote:

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
[---just another symptom of the D.I.D. system---]

So people aren't labeling actions as objects -- nouns -- because
they are and that makes sense and they're not it doing plus there's nothing wrong with it...

"Tools" are nouns, objects. If you can't show we 500,000 year old

They're building a building. One word used as both noun and verb.

Chimp tools, 1 million year old Chimp tools then Chimps don't
use tools. They engage in actions.

The clue for you lunatics is that you have to witness the action
in order for you to imagine a tool. This is the clue that you're > losing bladder control over a verb, not a noun.

Verbing weirds language. -Calvin

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On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:36:49 -0700 (PDT), JTEM trolled:

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
[---just another symptom of the D.I.D. system---]

So people aren't labeling actions as objects -- nouns -- because
they are and that makes sense and they're not it doing plus there's
nothing wrong with it...

"Tools" are nouns, objects. If you can't show we 500,000 year old
Chimp tools, 1 million year old Chimp tools then Chimps don't
use tools. They engage in actions.

If Chimps don't use tools, then the same reasoning neither do humans.

The clue for you lunatics is that you have to witness the action
in order for you to imagine a tool. This is the clue that you're
losing bladder control over a verb, not a noun.

--
You're entitled to your own opinions.
You're not entitled to your own facts.

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jillery wrote:

If Chimps don't use tools

Chimps don't use tools, you frigging idiot. Pretending Chimps use
tools is saying that tools are meaningless, that they are of zero
significance and that Chimps are no more innovative than countless
mammals, birds and even invertebrates. It's also insisting that the
history of and frequency of use of tools is unknown and unable.

It's stupid.

You're a well trained dog. You've proven that. Now try to think. Try
to come up with WHAT you hope to accomplish by your misuse of
tools. What are you pretending it achieves?

You'll be wrong, but maybe if you keep trying then one day you'll
see your error.





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erik simpson wrote:

On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 9:35:55 PM UTC-7, Pro Plyd wrote:

JTEM is my hero wrote:

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
[---just another symptom of the D.I.D. system---]

So people aren't labeling actions as objects -- nouns -- because
they are and that makes sense and they're not it doing plus there's
nothing wrong with it...

"Tools" are nouns, objects. If you can't show we 500,000 year old

They're building a building. One word used as both noun and verb.

Chimp tools, 1 million year old Chimp tools then Chimps don't
use tools. They engage in actions.

The clue for you lunatics is that you have to witness the action
in order for you to imagine a tool. This is the clue that you're > losing bladder control over a verb, not a noun.

Verbing weirds language. -Calvin

A classic!

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JTEM is my hero wrote:

jillery wrote:

If Chimps don't use tools

Chimps don't use tools, you frigging idiot. Pretending Chimps use

Termite fishing. Cracking nuts. Leaf sponges. Water dipping (for
drinking).

You're a well trained dog. You've proven that. Now try to think.

You'll be wrong, but maybe if you keep trying then one day you'll
see your error.

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On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 14:56:46 -0600, Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

JTEM is my hero wrote:

jillery wrote:

If Chimps don't use tools

Chimps don't use tools, you frigging idiot. Pretending Chimps use

Termite fishing. Cracking nuts. Leaf sponges. Water dipping (for
drinking).

You're a well trained dog. You've proven that. Now try to think.

You'll be wrong, but maybe if you keep trying then one day you'll
see your error.

The following adds to your comments above: ******************************************************
On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 11:29:42 -0400, jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
wrote:

It's now well-known that many animals with brains smaller than >Australopithencines make and use tools, so it's reasonable to suppose >Australopithecines did also.

The Wikipedia article on the subject makes a distinction between
object use, something that is found lying around and used as is, and
tool use, which is modified for the purpose its applied to.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals>

For example, chimps strip leaves off sticks for termite-fishing.

The following video is of Jane Goodall recalling her witnessing for
the first time chimps making and using tools just 40 years ago:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFbqeVXzra0>

"We were defined as man the toolmaker. And so now we had to
redefine man, redefine tools, or redefine chimpanzees as human." *********************************************************

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You're not entitled to your own facts.

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Sock puppet, jillery wrote:

[...]

It's about behaviors. You know, speaking rhetorically, the very first time
I raised this issue -- people noting behaviors and pretending they were
looking at tools -- I honestly thought people would laugh... "Omg, that's
so funny because it's true! We are speaking about behaviors and
labeling them tools!"

But that was a long time ago, and my expectations of, and opinion on
the collective have eroded some... entirely.




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Pro Plyd wrote:

Quoted in it's entirety:

A classic!

Wow! How uncharacteristically verbose of you! And nobody can accuse
you of saying anything stupid, not so long as you refuse to say anything!

I ask, again, knowing you lack the intellectual ability to even attempt an answer, not to mention that trademark narcissism of yours, but what
value do you get out of labeling behaviors as "Tools?"

What is best communicated by labeling BEHAVIORS as tools?

What are some of the other words that might be used, but you find less effective, your "Runner Ups," so to speak?

I'm laughing at you. You're a joke.

You cower behind the sock puppet because you know what you are,
and at least this way you can pretend to be "only kidding."




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Pro Plyd wrote:

Termite fishing.

"Fishing" is a choice of a descriptor. Why not "Catching?"

And, again, it's a behavior. What BENEFIT is there in referring to A
BEHAVIOR as a tool? What would you lose is you referred to a
BEHAVIOR as a behavior instead?

I know this is beyond you. That, even if you were intellectually
capable of responding rationally, you are emotionally damaged
to a point where no hope remains.

And that's funny.




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JBUM is no hero wrote:

Not now jon jon, adults are talking.

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I get it. You're retarded. This is why you got triggered by
my pointing out that you're misidentifying behaviors as
objects.

Tools are objects, behaviors are not.

Of course, you could try to not humiliate yourself with
the cowering behind the rotating sock puppets...





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