https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230830160828.htm
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41477-023-01491-0
Over a billion years ago we had eukaryotes, and some of them formed an endosymbiotic relationship with bacteria that could utilize oxygen for oxidative phosphorylation (our mitochondria), and some of these
eukaryotes also developed an endosymbiotic relationship with
photosynthetic bacteria. The photosynthetic eukaryotes evolved into
what we call plants.
These researchers looked at how algae respond to stress and determined
that the genes used evolved within a 600 million year period before land plants evolved from algal ancestors. Terrestrial plants use these same
stress response genes that allowed them to colonize a hostile
terrestrial environment.
The Reason to Believe IDiots claim that their intelligent designer is
the Biblical God, and they also claim that the Bible is factually true. Before the ID scam was initiated by the ID perps at the Discovery
Institute the Reason to Believe IDiots were just plain old earth
Biblical creationists.
https://reasons.org/single/creation-model-approach
Unlike the ID perps the Reason to Believe IDiots claimed to be
intelligent design advocates, but also claim that they never wanted to
teach the junk in the public schools. They wanted to construct their
creation model to support their religious beliefs.
They failed.
https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/summary-of-reasons-to-believes-testable-creation-model-1
They had to reinterpret parts of the Bible so that the sun and moon did
not have to be created on the fourth day (after the creation of land
plants).
Even though they use the fossil record for gap denial like the
Cambrian explosion they have to deny that data to maintain the Biblical chronology that they want to preserve. So land plants have to be
created before the sea creatures even though the Cambrian explosion
denial tells them that sea creatures existed long before land plants.
Not only that, but the transitional whale fossils have to be denied
because they need whales to be among the sea creatures created after
land plants, but before terrestrial vertebrates were created. There is
very little doubt that the mammalian ancestors of whales were created
long before whales were created. Whales are mammals, their mammalian predecessors are terrestrial vertebrates, but the Reason to Believe
IDiots need sea mammals and birds to be created before their terrestrial vertebrate ancestors were created. They don't deal with mosasaurus and
other aquatic reptiles because they do not want them to be the
leviathans mentioned in the Bible.
The ID scam "science" is just more science to deny. The Reason to
Believe IDiotic denial of what the Top Six evidences for IDiocy mean to creationism is pretty much why the Top Six killed IDiocy on TO. The
Reason to Believe IDiots may use the Top Six god-of-the-gaps denial the
same way as the ID perps at the Discovery Institute, but in trying to
build their biblical creation model they have to reject the Top Six as
the best evidence for IDiocy. The intelligent designer of the Top Six
is not the Biblical designer.
The sad thing is that they have to deny their own denial because they
want to deny that biological evolution has been occurring on this planet
for billions of years. They could easily just use their excuse that a
lot of things are not mentioned in the Bible as existing when everyone
knows that they once existed. The sun and moon existed for billions of
years before being mentioned as being created in the Bible. They could
use that excuse for all the inconsistent biblical chronology, but they
do not want to do it because the actual chronology means that biological evolution is likely the means of creation of life on earth, and that
isn't biblical enough for them. Even though biological evolution is
just one more thing that is not mentioned in the Bible, they can't be
honest enough with themselves to accept what the science actually tells
them. It is obviously the same for most of the creationists that became IDiots after the failure of scientific creationism. Not very many of
them ever wanted to ever accomplish any IDiotic science because that
would just be more science that had to be denied.
On Monday, 4 September 2023 at 18:10:25 UTC+3, RonO wrote:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230830160828.htm
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41477-023-01491-0
Over a billion years ago we had eukaryotes, and some of them formed an
endosymbiotic relationship with bacteria that could utilize oxygen for
oxidative phosphorylation (our mitochondria), and some of these
eukaryotes also developed an endosymbiotic relationship with
photosynthetic bacteria. The photosynthetic eukaryotes evolved into
what we call plants.
These researchers looked at how algae respond to stress and determined
that the genes used evolved within a 600 million year period before land
plants evolved from algal ancestors. Terrestrial plants use these same
stress response genes that allowed them to colonize a hostile
terrestrial environment.
The Reason to Believe IDiots claim that their intelligent designer is
the Biblical God, and they also claim that the Bible is factually true.
Before the ID scam was initiated by the ID perps at the Discovery
Institute the Reason to Believe IDiots were just plain old earth
Biblical creationists.
https://reasons.org/single/creation-model-approach
Unlike the ID perps the Reason to Believe IDiots claimed to be
intelligent design advocates, but also claim that they never wanted to
teach the junk in the public schools. They wanted to construct their
creation model to support their religious beliefs.
They failed.
https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/summary-of-reasons-to-believes-testable-creation-model-1
They had to reinterpret parts of the Bible so that the sun and moon did
not have to be created on the fourth day (after the creation of land
plants).
Note that there are studies that claim that atmosphere was not very thick already 2.7 bya: <https://www.washington.edu/news/2016/05/09/early-earths-air-weighed-less-than-half-of-todays-atmosphere/>
So it is unclear what there supposedly was that did hide sun, moon and
stars until after land plants emerged.
Even though they use the fossil record for gap denial like theThey can't also be honest with themselves what Bible tells to them.
Cambrian explosion they have to deny that data to maintain the Biblical
chronology that they want to preserve. So land plants have to be
created before the sea creatures even though the Cambrian explosion
denial tells them that sea creatures existed long before land plants.
Not only that, but the transitional whale fossils have to be denied
because they need whales to be among the sea creatures created after
land plants, but before terrestrial vertebrates were created. There is
very little doubt that the mammalian ancestors of whales were created
long before whales were created. Whales are mammals, their mammalian
predecessors are terrestrial vertebrates, but the Reason to Believe
IDiots need sea mammals and birds to be created before their terrestrial
vertebrate ancestors were created. They don't deal with mosasaurus and
other aquatic reptiles because they do not want them to be the
leviathans mentioned in the Bible.
The ID scam "science" is just more science to deny. The Reason to
Believe IDiotic denial of what the Top Six evidences for IDiocy mean to
creationism is pretty much why the Top Six killed IDiocy on TO. The
Reason to Believe IDiots may use the Top Six god-of-the-gaps denial the
same way as the ID perps at the Discovery Institute, but in trying to
build their biblical creation model they have to reject the Top Six as
the best evidence for IDiocy. The intelligent designer of the Top Six
is not the Biblical designer.
The sad thing is that they have to deny their own denial because they
want to deny that biological evolution has been occurring on this planet
for billions of years. They could easily just use their excuse that a
lot of things are not mentioned in the Bible as existing when everyone
knows that they once existed. The sun and moon existed for billions of
years before being mentioned as being created in the Bible. They could
use that excuse for all the inconsistent biblical chronology, but they
do not want to do it because the actual chronology means that biological
evolution is likely the means of creation of life on earth, and that
isn't biblical enough for them. Even though biological evolution is
just one more thing that is not mentioned in the Bible, they can't be
honest enough with themselves to accept what the science actually tells
them. It is obviously the same for most of the creationists that became
IDiots after the failure of scientific creationism. Not very many of
them ever wanted to ever accomplish any IDiotic science because that
would just be more science that had to be denied.
It is actually quite good book about issues with us. The whole message
of it felt (to me) that we are evil and adulterous, our temples are business centres, our authorities are corrupt and our judicial system is farce.
Why to search deep scientific wisdom from book that finds us not too
worthy?
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