• Re: Vacciine Scares (was Re: The enemies of reason, marginalizing subje

    From mohammadnursyamsu@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 22 12:03:16 2023
    Why don't you fuck off, you stupid fucking moron.

    Op vrijdag 22 september 2023 om 20:45:45 UTC+2 schreef Kerr-Mudd, John:
    On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 06:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
    "mohammad...@gmail.com" <mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:

    APnews and usatoday, are known liars. I mean, what is the point of referencing liars? If you want to find out what is in the vaccine, then you have to analyze it. But ofcourse, this was forbidden to do, because of clownworld. But the limited
    investigation that was done anyway, showed all sorts of contaminants in the vaccine. So then the next thing is to analyze the blood of vaccinated vs unvaccinated, and the graphene was found to be in the blood of the vaccinated. Do you understand that the
    only science is open science, direct investigation, and not the say so, of some public relations officer?

    14. You cannot control the dosage with mrna, because the body produces it.

    Ofcourse you are yourself the murderer here, all the risks taken amount to a reckless disregard for life, which is a criteria for intentional killing.

    It was predictable from the start that vaccinating during a pandemic, would lead to immune escape. This is why when you take some vaccination for going to some country, then you have to take it well in advance, complete your vaccination, so that the
    antibodies are matured. But I guess it doesn't matter anymore to take it in advance, when there are immune escape variants about pandemically.

    The virus starts out a couple of miles from a lab where they are doing gain of function on coronaviruses.

    I know I have the motherload with the creationist conceptual scheme, the concepts of fact and opinion, the basics of reasoning. You just prove you are a total moron, every time you reject it.

    Let's consider your emotional basis in reasoning. You make up a story that the virus was more crafty than expected. Or people were just wrong to vaccinate during a pandemic, because of it leading to immune escape. Isn't your emotional basis very self
    serving?

    go troll a medical NG. You might get better answers there.
    Op vrijdag 22 september 2023 om 04:05:43 UTC+2 schreef *Hemidactylus*:
    mohammad...@gmail.com <mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:
    The truth is still very simple. Marginalizing subjectivity results in bad
    personal opinions, weird ideology, and mental illness. Which then very obviously and straightforwardly, leads to individual and societal catastrophy.

    The fact obsessed academic people have no clue anymore about how to reason "carefully", and about what is "important", because they all suck
    at subjectivity. Now acdemics is a whole culture of being clueless about
    how subjectivity works, it is beyond the individual.

    1. mass vaccination, during a pandemic

    Makes sense, but the distribution of vaccines was inequitable across the globe.

    2. using eperimental mrna vaccine, on the entire population

    The entire population? Even in the US this is nowhere near true. If memory
    serves Israel had a decent vaccination uptake bur perhaps not entire. Other
    parts of the world were nowhere near entire.

    3. mrna vaccines which are not local, and which lasts in the body a long
    time, which are parameters that are opposite an ideal vaccine

    How long do these vaccines (or their spike protein products) last? How long
    in comparison does SARS-CoV-2 last? Which would you prefer?

    4. Using experimental lipids in a vaccine, for the entire population, which are known to cross the brain barrier
    5. Using highly toxic graphene oxide in the production of vaccines.

    https://apnews.com/article/988165173107

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/03/28/fact-check-document-shows-graphene-used-test-covid-19-vaccine-not-make/11556190002/

    6. Coercing people to take the vaccine
    I would have preferred more coercing. They had one job and failed. The lives of the many over the misgivings of deluded kooks. If something deadlier than COVID virus goes pandemic we are so fucked because the deluded kooks.
    7. Censoring criticism of the vaccine, not engaging in scientific debate
    Disinformation should be nipped in the bud by social media giants. It kills
    people. There’s no scientific debate involved on the denier side. It’s just
    a throwback to MMR-autism nonsense. Now pet owners are starting to question
    vaccinations for dogs and cats:

    https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2023/nearly-half-of-dog-owners-are-hesitant-to-vaccinate-their-pets/
    8. Having no treatment plan at all for people getting covid, just sit and
    wait untill it gets so bad that you have to go to the hospital.

    There were monoclonals and antivirals. Plus steroids. The vaccines changed
    everything. The viruses were a bit more crafty than expected hence the current arms race. The virus side may be attenuating or the collective immunity dampening it. Eventually it may become yet another HCoV. There was
    that Russian thing: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8813723/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889–1890_pandemic

    If a coronavirus, doubtfully a lab leak.
    9. Throwing out perfectly good treatment like vitamin D, and antivirals
    like hcq, and ivermectine
    At least Vitamin D has nutritional value.

    The only potential value for ivermectin would possibly be in areas of the
    world where people with SARS-CoV-2 infection also have a parasitic worm load.
    10. Using lethal high risk unproven remdesivir
    11. Masking children as young as 3 for hours on end, for years
    12. making the research data into vaccines secret
    13. Lying about the origins of the virus

    And, on and on the list goes, of the total failure of academics, which is
    to say the failed personal judgment of academically educated people.

    1. Creator / chooses / spiritual / subjective / opinion
    2. Creation / chosen / material / objective / fact

    This gridlock of yours only serves to indicate severe monomania.

    Where subjective means, identified with a chosen opinion, and objective
    means, identified with a model of it. And "choosing" is explained in terms of spontaneity, that a decision can turn out one way or another, in the moment.

    Facts do not care about your feelings.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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