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  • OT Are there any time travelers from the future here?

    From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 22:08:19 2023
    How would you know if there were time travelers
    from the future visiting us?

    How COULD you know?

    What would you test for? What would be the
    signs?

    I remember, YEARS ago, some crazy thing --
    probably the collective with an early handle --
    "Argued" that if UFOs were real the government
    would deny it, and they deny it thus UFOs are
    real.

    We could apply this to time travelers...

    "If time travelers from the future are visiting us
    we wouldn't know it because they'd hide the
    fact that they're time travelers. And we don't
    know about any time travelers -- which is exactly
    what we would expect if they were here -- so
    they must be here!

    What we need is something to point to; some
    kind of test... something to be testing for.



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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?A_Matuli=C4=87?=@21:1/5 to JTEM is my hero on Mon Oct 9 14:59:15 2023
    On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:10:58 PM UTC-7, JTEM is my hero wrote:
    "If time travelers from the future are visiting us
    we wouldn't know it because they'd hide the
    fact that they're time travelers. And we don't
    know about any time travelers -- which is exactly
    what we would expect if they were here -- so
    they must be here!

    False premise. We have nothing to hide, but we find we work better within societies by not mentioning it. It's safer that way. For everyone.

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  • From JTEM is my hero@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 22:04:01 2023
    A Matulić wrote:

    JTEM is my hero wrote:
    "If time travelers from the future are visiting us
    we wouldn't know it because they'd hide the
    fact that they're time travelers. And we don't
    know about any time travelers -- which is exactly
    what we would expect if they were here -- so
    they must be here!

    False premise. We have nothing to hide, but we find
    we work better within societies by not mentioning it.
    It's safer that way. For everyone.

    Well I'm certainly glad you got your crazy on -- being
    properly medicated is way over rated -- but the
    underlying point was that you need a test. You have
    to figure out what you're looking for.

    It would also be a good idea if you gave your test an
    airing, made sure others couldn't find any real problems
    with it.

    But you need a test.

    We see this issue in a lot of things that idiots believe
    is science, but it's junk.

    In the case of Neanderthals, they screamed that the
    mtDNA studies "Proved" there was no interbreeding,
    but even they admit that they were wrong. If they
    listened to us brilliant people back then they wouldn't
    have looked like such morons...

    What about Gwobull Warbling?

    If you were a time traveler, day, and you wanted to
    know if human fossil fuel use was warming the
    planet, how would you test it?

    You certainly wouldn't limit yourself to the past 10
    years or 50 years or 200 years, now would you? Yet
    idiots cherry pick from embarrassingly short
    intervals and pretend they can spot anomalies within
    historic times!

    HINT: "Historic Times" goes back maybe 5k years.
    It's literally how long writing is known to exist, our
    ability to record things.

    But the Holocene is popularly dated back almost 12k
    years, and more like 15k years if you factor out the
    Younger Dryas cooling...

    But Gwobull Warbling pretends to be science, looking
    back over a ridiculously short time span, and even
    then faking data (which STILL isn't impressive, if you
    make valid comparisons).

    Figure out a test.



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