First day of school... the 10th grade biology teacher asks the students
what they believed to be the purpose of sexual reproduction. every hand
goes up:
" To produce children, so there will always be someone around to mow
grass, polish cars, put Ikea furniture together, you know, all of the
things that grown people cannot do terribly well...
However that turns out to be the wrong answer; the right answer is more complicated than that. Bacteria manage to reproduce themselves without
sex and there are other simple creatures that do not participate in
sexual reproduction.
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system for Digital Data, similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of
it as God's version of TCP/IP. The purpose is precisely to prevent
mutations and recessive genes and basically all of the things that
supposedly Drive evolution. Without sexual reproduction, every living
thing on Earth above the level bacteria and worms and what not, would be dumb, dysfunctional, and ugly like Democrats.
panther2020 wrote:
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system for
Digital Data, similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of
it as God's version of TCP/IP. The purpose is precisely to prevent
mutations and recessive genes and basically all of the things that
supposedly Drive evolution. Without sexual reproduction, every living
thing on Earth above the level bacteria and worms and what not, would be
dumb, dysfunctional, and ugly like Democrats.
Your post is an attempt at parody, right?
Everyone knows the whole point of sexual reproduction is
to create genetic diversity so that evolution can happen.
And to give us something to look forward to as we plod
thru each dull drab day.
Asexual bacteria creating carbon copies of themselves
makes for painfully slow adaptation and evolution.
First day of school... the 10th grade biology teacher asks the students
what they believed to be the purpose of sexual reproduction. every hand
goes up:
" To produce children, so there will always be someone around to mow
grass, polish cars, put Ikea furniture together, you know, all of the
things that grown people cannot do terribly well...
However that turns out to be the wrong answer; the right answer is more complicated than that. Bacteria manage to reproduce themselves without
sex and there are other simple creatures that do not participate in
sexual reproduction.
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system for Digital Data,
similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of
it as God's version of TCP/IP.
The purpose is precisely to prevent
mutations
and recessive genes
and basically all of the things that
supposedly Drive evolution.
Without sexual reproduction, every living
thing on Earth above the level bacteria and worms and what not, would be dumb, dysfunctional, and ugly like Democrats.
On 1/4/24 10:09 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 1/3/2024 4:46 PM, panther2020 wrote:Yes, indeed. He's infested SBP as well. Killfiles are your friend.
First day of school... the 10th grade biology teacher asks the
students what they believed to be the purpose of sexual reproduction.
every hand goes up:
" To produce children, so there will always be someone around to mow
grass, polish cars, put Ikea furniture together, you know, all of the
things that grown people cannot do terribly well...
For an anecdote to be believable, it has to be at least plausible. It
isn't likely that asking a room full of 15 year olds what the purpose
of sexual reproduction is would result in an answer from any of them
that sounds like it was generated by an AI algorithm at dadjokes.com,
let alone unanimity in the answer.
However that turns out to be the wrong answer; the right answer is
more complicated than that. Bacteria manage to reproduce themselves
without sex and there are other simple creatures that do not
participate in sexual reproduction.
Congratulations, you managed to identify the difference between sexual
and asexual reproduction - which wasn't the question asked of the
hypothetical students.
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system
for Digital Data,
No, it isn't. Error correction is a _part_ of DNA replication, which
isn't exclusive to sexual reproduction, it occurs in asexual
reproduction as well.
similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of it as
God's version of TCP/IP.
In order for an analogy to be believable, it has to at at least have
some semblance to the process being analogized. I'm not seeing much
similarity between a DNA strand unwinding > base pairing and data
communication systems. Data duplication would be a better analogy.
Besides that error correction in TCP/IP consists of Parity, CRC, and
Foward/backward error correction (FEC/BEC), all of which are
numerically calculated based on the numerical content of the data
packets. If there's an error, it doesn't get fixed. The system asks
for a retransmission (FEC requires redundant packets to begin with).
The TCP\IP error correction doesn't assess the intent of the data,
only that there was a discrepancy of the calculated value vs the read
value. DNA error correction reads the "intent" of the "data", and
repairs it to what it should be. It's vastly more complicated than
simple TCP/IP error correction/detection protocols.
The purpose is precisely to prevent mutations
How's that workin' out for ya?
and recessive genes
DNA error correction is designed to prevent recessive genes? I wasn't
aware of that.
and basically all of the things that supposedly Drive evolution.
hmmmmm.....You might want to read up on 'selection pressure'. Last I
knew, DNA replication had little to do with influencing the
environment, but I could be wrong.
Without sexual reproduction, every living thing on Earth above the
level bacteria and worms and what not, would be dumb, dysfunctional,
and ugly like Democrats.
Ah, I see. I didn't realize I was dealing with a magatard.
Never mind.
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system
for Digital Data,
No, it isn't. Error correction is a _part_ of DNA replication, which
isn't exclusive to sexual reproduction, it occurs in asexual
reproduction as well.
similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of it as God's
version of TCP/IP.
In order for an analogy to be believable, it has to at at least have
some semblance to the process being analogized. I'm not seeing much similarity between a DNA strand unwinding > base pairing and data communication systems. Data duplication would be a better analogy.
Besides that error correction in TCP/IP consists of Parity, CRC, and Foward/backward error correction (FEC/BEC), all of which are numerically calculated based on the numerical content of the data packets. If
there's an error, it doesn't get fixed. The system asks for a retransmission (FEC requires redundant packets to begin with). The
TCP\IP error correction doesn't assess the intent of the data, only that there was a discrepancy of the calculated value vs the read value. DNA
error correction reads the "intent" of the "data", and repairs it to
what it should be. It's vastly more complicated than simple TCP/IP error correction/detection protocols.
The purpose is precisely to prevent mutations
How's that workin' out for ya?
and recessive genes
DNA error correction is designed to prevent recessive genes? I wasn't
aware of that.
and basically all of the things that supposedly Drive evolution.
hmmmmm.....You might want to read up on 'selection pressure'. Last I
knew, DNA replication had little to do with influencing the environment,
but I could be wrong.
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system for Digital Data, similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of
it as God's version of TCP/IP. The purpose is precisely to prevent
mutations and recessive genes and basically all of the things that
supposedly Drive evolution.
On 04/01/2024 18:09, Zen Cycle wrote:
The purpose of sexual reproduction, or rather the reason sexual
reproduction persists, is a difficult question. I believe that the
current consensus is that it's an anti-parasite adaptation - by
increasing the diversity in the population it gives the parasite a more fuzzier target to aim at, and reduces the chance of taking out all of an organisms progeny.
and recessive genes
DNA error correction is designed to prevent recessive genes? I wasn't
aware of that.
He was claiming that sexual reproduction weeds out recessive genes, not
that DNA error correction does. (He wrote "error correction", not "DNA
error correction".)
One thing that occurs during sexual reproduction is gene conversion,
where all or part of one allele or paralog is converted to the sequence
of its partner. This is a case where sexual reproduction actually causes mutations. > > Apart from the anti-parasite role, it has been argued that sexual
reproduction is advantageous in that it allows beneficial mutations from separate lineages to be combined, rather than requiring them to occur sequentially in a single lineage.
First day of school... the 10th grade biology teacher asks the students
what they believed to be the purpose of sexual reproduction. every hand
goes up:
" To produce children, so there will always be someone around to mow
grass, polish cars, put Ikea furniture together, you know, all of the
things that grown people cannot do terribly well...
However that turns out to be the wrong answer; the right answer is more complicated than that. Bacteria manage to reproduce themselves without
sex and there are other simple creatures that do not participate in
sexual reproduction.
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system for Digital Data, similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of
it as God's version of TCP/IP. The purpose is precisely to prevent
mutations and recessive genes and basically all of the things that supposedly Drive evolution. Without sexual reproduction, every living
thing on Earth above the level bacteria and worms and what not, would be dumb, dysfunctional, and ugly like Democrats.
On 1/4/2024 3:34 PM, Ernest Major wrote:
On 04/01/2024 18:09, Zen Cycle wrote:
The purpose of sexual reproduction, or rather the reason sexual
reproduction persists, is a difficult question. I believe that the
current consensus is that it's an anti-parasite adaptation - by
increasing the diversity in the population it gives the parasite a
more fuzzier target to aim at, and reduces the chance of taking out
all of an organisms progeny.
AFAIC it's as fuzzy an answers as 'what is the purpose of life'. In any
case the answer is _not_ "it's an error correction system" regardless of analogies to data communication .
<SNIP>
and recessive genes
DNA error correction is designed to prevent recessive genes? I wasn't
aware of that.
He was claiming that sexual reproduction weeds out recessive genes,
not that DNA error correction does. (He wrote "error correction", not
"DNA error correction".)
That begs the question: Is that to imply that there are other 'error correction' systems associated with recessive gene suppression besides
DNA error correction, specifically in the context of sexual vs asexual reproduction? Again, I'm not aware of any.
<snip>
One thing that occurs during sexual reproduction is gene conversion,
where all or part of one allele or paralog is converted to the
sequence of its partner. This is a case where sexual reproduction
actually causes mutations. > > Apart from the anti-parasite role, it
has been argued that sexual
reproduction is advantageous in that it allows beneficial mutations
from separate lineages to be combined, rather than requiring them to
occur sequentially in a single lineage.
Both paragraphs negate the main gist of the OPs argument that sexual reproduction _prevents_ mutations
I have no formal training in any field of genetics, feel free to correct
me if I'm wrong.
On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 9:47:28 PM UTC, panther2020 wrote:
First day of school... the 10th grade biology teacher asks the students
what they believed to be the purpose of sexual reproduction. every hand
goes up:
" To produce children, so there will always be someone around to mow
grass, polish cars, put Ikea furniture together, you know, all of the
things that grown people cannot do terribly well...
However that turns out to be the wrong answer; the right answer is more
complicated than that. Bacteria manage to reproduce themselves without
sex and there are other simple creatures that do not participate in
sexual reproduction.
What sexual reproduction actually is, is an error correction system for
Digital Data, similar to checksums or TCP/IP; in fact you could think of
it as God's version of TCP/IP. The purpose is precisely to prevent
mutations and recessive genes and basically all of the things that
supposedly Drive evolution. Without sexual reproduction, every living
thing on Earth above the level bacteria and worms and what not, would be
dumb, dysfunctional, and ugly like Democrats.
sex leads to cultures to invent dancing, and as dancing is the ultimate purpose of the universe,
this proves creationism is true
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