• Resurrecting the mammoth

    From RonO@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 10 12:45:27 2024
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/09/world/woolly-mammoth-elephant-stem-cells-scn/index.html

    Another article about bringing back extinct species. The claim is that
    they can help restore the arctic habitat, but that is nuts. One of the
    reasons that the megafauna species went extinct was due to the fact that
    their habitat was greatly reduced in a cycle where the habitat that they
    liked was around for a hundred thousand years, but they had to survive
    20,000 to 30,000 year periods when their habitat was greatly reduced.
    My guess is that the long cycles did in the megafauna because they
    needed a lot of territory to produce viable populations, and after
    adapting to 100,000 years of expanded habitat they were restricted to
    pockets of alpine and arctic habitat that likely could not sustain
    viable population numbers for the largest herbivores. The last warm
    interval it got warmer than it is now, and more ice melted. There was
    less arctic habitat for mammoths and wolly rhinos. The DNA we have
    recovered indicates that they had severe population crashes. The last
    paper that I saw indicated that the rhino population genetics did not
    recover and still looked like a population bottleneck even though
    indications were that the population size had recovered very quickly
    once things cooled down again, but the genetic variation didn't seem to recover, and then they went extinct when things started to warm up
    again. The Wrangle Island Mammoth were not hunted to extinction.
    Inbreeding depression seemed to have killed them off.

    Whatever they brought back today would just ruin the existing habitat
    for the species that have made it so far. They need to think about
    bringing them back when New York is covered by a mile of ice again.

    Ron Okimoto

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