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  • Re: There is no such thing as a Fermi Paradox

    From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to JTEM on Mon Apr 22 23:25:53 2024
    JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    The so called "Fermi Paradox" is an assumption. It's an
    erroneous assumption and not a paradox.

    Of course not. It was a question:
    "But where are they?"

    The implication was that the assumption (by others)
    that every civilisation must go on growing exponentially,
    eventually filing the entire habitable universe, must be wrong.

    A great many answers to the question have been proposed.

    Pick your own,

    Jan

    --
    "Interstellar distances are god's quarantine regulations"
    (John Brunner, and my favourite answer)

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to JTEM on Mon May 20 18:24:12 2024
    JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:

    jillery wrote:

    The cited article identifies what it means by "The Fermi paradox":

    Not relevant. Regardless of what they mean, there isn't a paradox.

    The cited article also gives a definition of "paradox": ************************************
    a selfcontradictory statement, or a seemingly logical
    argument that leads to a contradiction, and the
    contradiction suggests that something is wrong. ************************************

    And this is an issue for you?

    However, the cited article fails to specify the logical basis behind Fermi's iconic question.

    Irrelevant. It's not a paradox.

    So, assuming interstellar travel was feasible, and assuming no
    impediment to exponential expansion, an interstellar civilization
    should occupy the entire Milky Way.

    That's what is known as "An assumption." You can tell by your twice
    using the word "Assuming."

    Speaking rhetorically. You've already exposed the fact that you
    wouldn't know an assumption if it were humping your leg.

    So you are stil entirely wrong.
    'Fermi's paradox won't go away by renaming it to 'Fermi's question',
    or perhaps to ''Other people's assumption,

    Can't you get it through your head that this a real question,
    and that it isn't a matter of just juggling words?

    Jan

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