I recently found out that Richard Lenski of the eponymous long-term
E.coli evolution experiment had a blog, and in it I found a correction I thought was relevant to the way those experiments are typically invoked
as evidence in evolution/creationism debates:
https://telliamedrevisited.wordpress.com/2024/04/01/a-small-correction/
I hope we'll all have the integrity to take this new information into
account properly.
"Since transferring the LTEE to Jeff Barrick’s lab at UT-Austin in 2022, we’ve been going over the old lab notebooks, making sure everything
looks good. It turns out, though, that I made a small error when I
started the LTEE back in 1988. I thought that transferring 10 ml into 10
ml was a hundred-fold dilution because there’s a 0 right there after
each of the 1s, and 100 has two zeros. QED: a hundred-fold dilution. Right?
Well, it turns out I was a bit off. That’s only a two-fold dilution because, apparently, the correct way to do the math is 10 / (10 + 10) =
1/2. Who knew? New math, I guess. Anyhow, everyone in the lab thought I
had figured it out, since I was the perfesser, and they just kept doing
the same thing all these years. So instead of 75,000 generations, it was
only something like 11,250 when we sent the ^H^H^H^H^H^Hstupid amazing
LTEE to Taxes. Oh well, still a big number.
We also discovered another tiny error. You know, I always thought some ^H^H^H^H^H^Hsucker hard-working student came in and did the transfers on weekends and holidays. I never quite knew who it was, but I figured
someone did the ^H^H^H^H^H^Hunpaid ^H^H^H^work transfers. Well, it turns
out, not so much. OK, never. Fridays were ok at 40%, and Mondays were
even better at 53%. On Tuesdays, we maxed out at 73%. Not bad! We
trailed off a tad at 59% and 47% on Wednesdays and Thursdays.
Anyhow, after correcting for these tiny oversights, the LTEE had gone
past 4,300 generations before we sent it down to Taxes. Speaking of
Taxes, I hope I don’t get audited again this year. But I hear you can
stall if you’re a big shot. Being a PI qualifies, right?"
On 10/05/2024 21:31, Arkalen wrote:
I recently found out that Richard Lenski of the eponymous long-term
E.coli evolution experiment had a blog, and in it I found a correction
I thought was relevant to the way those experiments are typically
invoked as evidence in evolution/creationism debates:
https://telliamedrevisited.wordpress.com/2024/04/01/a-small-correction/
I hope we'll all have the integrity to take this new information into
account properly.
Did you look at the date? I suspect it's an April Fool. (Or did you
identify it as an April Fool, and ran with it?)
"Since transferring the LTEE to Jeff Barrick’s lab at UT-Austin in
2022, we’ve been going over the old lab notebooks, making sure
everything looks good. It turns out, though, that I made a small error
when I started the LTEE back in 1988. I thought that transferring 10
ml into 10 ml was a hundred-fold dilution because there’s a 0 right
there after each of the 1s, and 100 has two zeros. QED: a hundred-fold
dilution. Right?
Well, it turns out I was a bit off. That’s only a two-fold dilution
because, apparently, the correct way to do the math is 10 / (10 + 10)
= 1/2. Who knew? New math, I guess. Anyhow, everyone in the lab
thought I had figured it out, since I was the perfesser, and they just
kept doing the same thing all these years. So instead of 75,000
generations, it was only something like 11,250 when we sent the
^H^H^H^H^H^Hstupid amazing LTEE to Taxes. Oh well, still a big number.
We also discovered another tiny error. You know, I always thought some
^H^H^H^H^H^Hsucker hard-working student came in and did the transfers
on weekends and holidays. I never quite knew who it was, but I figured
someone did the ^H^H^H^H^H^Hunpaid ^H^H^H^work transfers. Well, it
turns out, not so much. OK, never. Fridays were ok at 40%, and Mondays
were even better at 53%. On Tuesdays, we maxed out at 73%. Not bad! We
trailed off a tad at 59% and 47% on Wednesdays and Thursdays.
Anyhow, after correcting for these tiny oversights, the LTEE had gone
past 4,300 generations before we sent it down to Taxes. Speaking of
Taxes, I hope I don’t get audited again this year. But I hear you can
stall if you’re a big shot. Being a PI qualifies, right?"
On 10/05/2024 23:05, Ernest Major wrote:
On 10/05/2024 21:31, Arkalen wrote:
I recently found out that Richard Lenski of the eponymous long-term
E.coli evolution experiment had a blog, and in it I found a
correction I thought was relevant to the way those experiments are
typically invoked as evidence in evolution/creationism debates:
https://telliamedrevisited.wordpress.com/2024/04/01/a-small-correction/
I hope we'll all have the integrity to take this new information into
account properly.
Did you look at the date? I suspect it's an April Fool. (Or did you
identify it as an April Fool, and ran with it?)
I did eventually figure it out but I'm embarrassed to admit which
paragraph it was at.
(also the previous post isn't at the same date but I also suspect isn't completely in earnest. I think maybe Richard Lenski might be a funny guy)
(EDIT I'm keeping the previous parenthetical for integrity's sake but
the previous post actually *is* at the same date. How am I such a, um,
what's the term again, "hard-working student")
On Fri, 10 May 2024 23:22:32 +0100, Ernest Major
<{$to$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 10/05/2024 23:00, Arkalen wrote:
On 10/05/2024 23:05, Ernest Major wrote:
On 10/05/2024 21:31, Arkalen wrote:
I recently found out that Richard Lenski of the eponymous long-term
E.coli evolution experiment had a blog, and in it I found a
correction I thought was relevant to the way those experiments are
typically invoked as evidence in evolution/creationism debates:
https://telliamedrevisited.wordpress.com/2024/04/01/a-small-correction/ >>>>>
I hope we'll all have the integrity to take this new information into >>>>> account properly.
Did you look at the date? I suspect it's an April Fool. (Or did you
identify it as an April Fool, and ran with it?)
I did eventually figure it out but I'm embarrassed to admit which
paragraph it was at.
I'd read the whole post before I figured it out. It didn't make sense,
which caused me to look at the context.
(also the previous post isn't at the same date but I also suspect isn't
completely in earnest. I think maybe Richard Lenski might be a funny guy) >>>
(EDIT I'm keeping the previous parenthetical for integrity's sake but
the previous post actually *is* at the same date. How am I such a, um,
what's the term again, "hard-working student")
Yes, an understandable and simple misunderstanding; no need to assert personal limitations here.
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