• feathers (and one bird)

    From DB Cates@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 11 12:21:59 2024
    I just started reading an article in the latest SciAm about feathers,
    including their evolution. The first paragraph gave me a WOW moment that
    i thought I would share (below). I haven't read much beyond that yet.'

    "In October 2022 a bird with the code name B6 set a new world record
    that few people outside the field of ornithology noticed. Over the
    course of 11 days, B6, a young Bar-tailed Godwit, flew from its hatching
    ground in Alaska to its wintering ground in Tasmania, covering 8,425
    miles without taking a single break. For comparison, there is only one commercial aircraft that can fly that far nonstop, a Boeing 777 with a
    213-foot wingspan and one of the most powerful jet engines in the world.
    During its journey, B6—an animal that could perch comfortably on your shoulder—did not land, did not eat, did not drink and <i>did not stop flapping</i>, sustaining an average ground speed of 30 miles per hour 24
    hours a day as it winged its way to the other end of the world.
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    Don Cates ("he's a cunning rascal" PN)

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 11 12:19:14 2024
    On Sat, 11 May 2024 12:21:59 -0500, the following appeared
    in talk.origins, posted by DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>:

    I just started reading an article in the latest SciAm about feathers, >including their evolution. The first paragraph gave me a WOW moment that
    i thought I would share (below). I haven't read much beyond that yet.'

    "In October 2022 a bird with the code name B6 set a new world record
    that few people outside the field of ornithology noticed. Over the
    course of 11 days, B6, a young Bar-tailed Godwit, flew from its hatching >ground in Alaska to its wintering ground in Tasmania, covering 8,425
    miles without taking a single break. For comparison, there is only one >commercial aircraft that can fly that far nonstop, a Boeing 777 with a >213-foot wingspan and one of the most powerful jet engines in the world. >During its journey, B6—an animal that could perch comfortably on your >shoulder—did not land, did not eat, did not drink and <i>did not stop >flapping</i>, sustaining an average ground speed of 30 miles per hour 24 >hours a day as it winged its way to the other end of the world.

    That's pretty amazing. IIRC Arctic terns make longer
    flights, but I'm pretty sure they don't do them nonstop. And
    while albatrosses stay in the air for 11 months or so, they
    eat "on the wing", and they don't do a lot of flapping.

    Thanks!

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From DB Cates@21:1/5 to FromTheRafters on Sat May 11 18:28:08 2024
    On 2024-05-11 4:30 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
    JTEM presented the following explanation :
      DB Cates wrote:

    "In October 2022 a bird with the code name B6 set a new world record
    that few people outside the field of ornithology noticed. Over the
    course of 11 days, B6, a young Bar-tailed Godwit, flew from its
    hatching ground in Alaska to its wintering ground in Tasmania,
    covering 8,425 miles without taking a single break. For comparison,
    there is only one commercial aircraft that can fly that far nonstop,
    a Boeing 777 with a 213-foot wingspan and one of the most powerful
    jet engines in the world. During its journey, B6—an animal that could
    perch comfortably on your shoulder—did not land, did not eat, did not
    drink and <i>did not stop flapping</i>, sustaining an average ground
    speed of 30 miles per hour 24 hours a day as it winged its way to the
    other end of the world.

    It's not hard to imagine them tagging a bird, tracking it with GPS,
    but to know that it was continuously flapping it's wings?

    https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/48/1/134/627446

    I suppose with a rigorous enough definition of "continuous beating" they
    don't. But they are physically incapable of long gliding like an
    albatross but it is likely they use continuous beating with occasional
    short pauses, a common thing. But they know it never stopped or fed
    (continuous tracking) and it can't land on water without dying (can't
    feed and can't take off).
    The only time I've ever seen a shorebird gliding is when it is coming in
    for a landing.
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    Don Cates ("he's a cunning rascal" PN)

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to erik simpson on Tue May 14 21:26:27 2024
    On Sun, 12 May 2024 10:04:11 -0700
    erik simpson <eastside.erik@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 5/12/24 5:28 AM, jillery wrote:
    On Sat, 11 May 2024 18:28:08 -0500, DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2024-05-11 4:30 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
    JTEM presented the following explanation :
      DB Cates wrote:

    "In October 2022 a bird with the code name B6 set a new world record >>>>> that few people outside the field of ornithology noticed. Over the >>>>> course of 11 days, B6, a young Bar-tailed Godwit, flew from its
    hatching ground in Alaska to its wintering ground in Tasmania,
    covering 8,425 miles without taking a single break. For comparison, >>>>> there is only one commercial aircraft that can fly that far nonstop, >>>>> a Boeing 777 with a 213-foot wingspan and one of the most powerful >>>>> jet engines in the world. During its journey, B6—an animal that could >>>>> perch comfortably on your shoulder—did not land, did not eat, did not >>>>> drink and <i>did not stop flapping</i>, sustaining an average ground >>>>> speed of 30 miles per hour 24 hours a day as it winged its way to the >>>>> other end of the world.

    It's not hard to imagine them tagging a bird, tracking it with GPS,
    but to know that it was continuously flapping it's wings?

    https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/48/1/134/627446

    I suppose with a rigorous enough definition of "continuous beating" they >> don't. But they are physically incapable of long gliding like an
    albatross but it is likely they use continuous beating with occasional
    short pauses, a common thing. But they know it never stopped or fed
    (continuous tracking) and it can't land on water without dying (can't
    feed and can't take off).
    The only time I've ever seen a shorebird gliding is when it is coming in >> for a landing.
    --


    Perhaps it was an African Gotwit.

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    To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge

    There we go! Perhaps they travel in pairs, with one carrying the other
    to give it some rest, maybe even with three birds, one carrying food for
    all.


    Clearly a relay of untagged Godwits were refuelling it on it's endurance
    record attempt.



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    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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