• Re: A new biological rule?

    From RonO@21:1/5 to jillery on Sun Jun 2 15:26:24 2024
    On 6/2/2024 3:17 AM, jillery wrote:
    <https://dornsife.usc.edu/news/stories/rule-of-biology-centered-on-instability/>

    Based on this cited article:

    <https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fragi.2024.1376060/full>

    From the abstract:
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    Rules of biology typically involve conservation of resources. For
    example, common patterns such as hexagons and logarithmic spirals
    require minimal materials, and scaling laws involve conservation of
    energy. Here a relationship with the opposite theme is discussed,
    which is the selectively advantageous instability (SAI) of one or more components of a replicating system, such as the cell. By increasing
    the complexity of the system, SAI can have benefits in addition to the generation of energy or the mobilization of building blocks. SAI
    involves a potential cost to the replicating system for the materials
    and/or energy required to create the unstable component, and in some
    cases, the energy required for its active degradation. SAI is
    well-studied in cells. Short-lived transcription and signaling factors
    enable a rapid response to a changing environment, and turnover is
    critical for replacement of damaged macromolecules. The minimal gene
    set for a viable cell includes proteases and a nuclease, suggesting
    SAI is essential for life. SAI promotes genetic diversity in several
    ways. Toxin/antitoxin systems promote maintenance of genes, and SAI of mitochondria facilitates uniparental transmission. By creating two
    distinct states, subject to different selective pressures, SAI can
    maintain genetic diversity. SAI of components of synthetic replicators
    favors replicator cycling, promoting emergence of replicators with
    increased complexity. Both classical and recent computer modeling of replicators reveals SAI. SAI may be involved at additional levels of biological organization. In summary, SAI promotes replicator genetic diversity and reproductive fitness, and may promote aging through loss
    of resources and maintenance of deleterious alleles.
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    AIUI there is a tension between stasis and diversity. During times of environmental stability, it's advantageous to become increasingly
    specialized to those static environmental conditions, which would
    allow them to outcompete those less specialized. OTOH during times of environmental instability, it's advantageous to develop multiple
    random varieties aka genetic diversity, on the random chance that some
    of those new varieties would be more fit to the new conditions, and
    being more fit would naturally outcompete those less fit; no designer required.

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    It isn't stasis. They are talking about selective instability of
    cellular components. Their examples are RNA and protein. Obvious
    examples are the control of error rates in DNA replication, and the fine
    tuned gene regulation that is allowed because the mRNA transcripts have
    a certain half life, so transcriptional regulation can maintain
    functional levels of the viable transcripts and insure that specific
    levels of product are produced. During bacterial SOS mutation rate
    increases dramatically, and variants are produced that regulate the
    genes differently and change the function of the protein products. In
    the case of transcription, just think of how difficult it would be to
    regulate specific amounts of some protein product if the transcripts
    were viable for the life of the cell, and mRNAs in the egg cell
    persisted in the dividing cells throughout embryogenesis. You don't
    want those proteins made forever, but you only want them when they are
    needed.

    It takes a tremendous amount of energy to keep the transcriptional
    machiine running. Just think of the introns that are transcribed and
    then thrown away and recycled. Some genes like the DMD gene (Duchenne
    muscular dystrophe) that has a million base-pair transcript and all but
    14 kilobase-pairs are thrown away. They think that the gene is so large because the time it takes to make a functional transcript is part of how
    the gene is regulated in terms of functional copies of the mature mRNA. Vertebrates with highly reduced genomes and smaller introns still have
    DMD genes over half a million base-pairs in length.

    If that is intelligent design, it is a really strange intelligent
    design. It looks like whatever worked was adopted. The designer could
    do anything, that is the major failure point for the ID scam. They
    claim that they can identify designer, design, but they obviously can't.
    Behe claims that the way that whales were designed is not how the
    designer would have done it (it is evolution by breaking things, that
    can be explained by Darwinian mechanisms), but no one is listening to
    him. All the IDiots seem to get out of Behe's stupidity is that whale evolution is a bad type of evolution. The evolution must have happened,
    but that never registers through the denial.

    Ron Okimoto

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