On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 16:21:16 -0600, the following appeared in
talk.origins, posted by RonO <
rokimoto557@gmail.com>:
https://evolutionnews.org/2024/12/no-2-story-of-2024-darwinists-devolve/
What is the "Darwinism" that West claims is devolving?
Since "devolve" is a null concept coined by those who
believe, incorrectly, that evolution has a direction beyond
survival and reproduction in the environment as it exists,
does it matter what he claims?
There was an initial rise for the ID creationist scam, but then it fell
on it's face and they started running a stupid bait and switch scam on
their supporters over 2 decades ago. ID perps like Nelson started
admitting that the ID science never existed, but that they were working
on developing some. If any ID science had been accomplished with
respect to the Top Six, Nelson would have likely quit the ID scam. None
of the Top Six god-of-the-gaps "evidence" supports YEC. After the bait
and switch started to go down Berlinski claimed that he had never
supported the ID scam, and he likely had not because all he ever did was
put up the junk that had failed the scientific creationist, and had
never supported Behe's IC or Dembski's junk. These are the type of
fellows that are still fellows of the ID scam unit.
Brian Miller now makes the list of prominent defenders of the ID scam.
Miller is supposed to have a PhD in physics, but he should be known on
TO as the ID perp that did not like the original list of the Top Six.
Miller supported Sewell's modified list, but removed the Big Bang from >Sewell's list. What does it say when a physics PhD does not want the
Big Bang on the list of the best evidence for ID?
The YEC scientific creationists used to use the Big Bang. It was part
of the Gish Gallop and is up at the planetarium at the AIG's creation
museum, but it never was anything that the YEC wanted to deal with in an >honest and straightforward manner. It is one of the science topics
along with evolution that the creationists have wanted to remove from
the science standards in states like Texas, and Oklahoma. The Kansas >creationists succeeded in temporarily removing the Big Band and
biological evolution from their state science standards back in 1999,
but the other states never did what they wanted to do.
Were Francis Collins and Ken Miller ever Darwinists? These two are >Christians that believe in an interactive God. They were against ID
because it was just a dishonest creationist scam. They believe that
nature is God's creation. They just understand that life has evolved on
this planet for billions of years. They do not reject their God's >involvement, they just acknowledge that the ID scam is basically a scam
and bad science.
Ron Okimoto
--
Bob C.
"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov
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