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    From E.Laureti@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 16 19:01:35 2025
    Only we can get to and from Mars with a human crew https://www.propulsion-revolution.com
    We can only receive donations for our project to build a spaceship for Mars that will
    it does not lose pieces like rockets and can get there in 4 days, with the PNN propulsion system of which we can
    experimental demonstration.
    We receive donations by allocating land and ice on Mars in Korolev http://www.asps.it/KorolevTorta.jpg
    We do not recommend sending us forms to fill in: our form to fill is only the experimental demonstration.
    Other American companies sell land on the Moon and Mars but have nothing to get there and then return to Earth.
    Here are the details for the donations/sale of lands and ice on Mars http://www.asps.it/aliena222.htm

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  • From E.Laureti@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 18 12:28:25 2025
    JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> posted:

    E.Laureti wrote:

    Only we can get to and from Mars with a human crew

    I'd be satisfied with an automated return mission.

    Think about it:

    Humans can perform the work of a "Mars Rover" in a tiny fraction
    of the time. Humans walk *Oodles* fast than those damn things
    move. They cover a disappointingly small amount of ground. But...

    They'd be stuck on their feet. They're not going to have a cart
    to drive around on, a 4-wheeler or anything. If that were possible
    why note just send a lander that size, with that speed and those capabilities? It would be infinitely easier and cheaper.

    No food.
    No water.
    No humans.

    Think of how much LESS weight, size & cost you'd need eliminating
    all that, and going with a robotic version!

    Buzz around HUNDREDS of miles, maybe THOUSANDS instead of the 20
    that Curiosity managed over an entire DECADE!

    Yes: 20 miles per decade!

    A little less, actually. It took it just over 12 years to go less
    than 20.5 miles.

    So humans can walk about 4 mph, call it 2 mph with all that gear,
    so two humans can cover the same ground in five hour.

    Five hours compared to 12 years!

    So you're not wrong. But the proverbial "Quantum Leap" could be
    achieved with a larger, faster, more capable rover.

    We can build a vehicle that can cover 10 or 100 times the
    distance in a fraction of the time. And THAT is likely a far
    simpler and cheaper and safer than sending humans, AND it would
    be another step (more lessons) towards a really successful
    manned mission.



    really i don't uderstand of what propulsion you speak.
    It you want ... write here

    https://www.tumblr.com/communities/pnnpropulsion

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  • From E.Laureti@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 20 17:53:49 2025
    JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> posted:

    On 3/18/25 8:28 AM, E.Laureti wrote:

    So you're not wrong. But the proverbial "Quantum Leap" could be
    achieved with a larger, faster, more capable rover.

    We can build a vehicle that can cover 10 or 100 times the
    distance in a fraction of the time. And THAT is likely a far
    simpler and cheaper and safer than sending humans, AND it would
    be another step (more lessons) towards a really successful
    manned mission.

    really i don't uderstand of what propulsion you speak.
    It you want ... write here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik

    There have been test flights already.

    It's a cruise missile with unlimited range. Launch in Antarctica,
    take out London or Beijing.

    If we eliminate the countless billions being laundered in the
    Ukraine, not to mention all the insane give-aways already uncovered
    by DOGE, we can afford even a manned mission! I'm just saying that
    we could achieve a quantum leap in space exploration even without
    sending people -- and we can do it for a lot cheaper. PLUS, it
    doesn't exclude an eventual manned mission, it's laying the
    groundwork for a bigger & better manned mission!


    Rockets on distances like Moon and Mars lose mass and pieces.
    This a physics limit that forbid every colonization.
    The fact is that since Apollo 11 ( about 55 years ago) we have no
    manned oupost on Moon.

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