LONDON, April 16 (Reuters) - The United Kingdom's top court on
Wednesday upheld an appeal by a campaign group on whether transgender
women are legally women under equality legislation, ruling that the law referred to a "biological woman and biological sex".
The Supreme Court's judgment related to whether a trans woman with a
gender recognition certificate (GRC), a formal document which gives
legal recognition of someone's new gender, is protected from
discrimination as a woman under Britain's Equality Act.
Campaign group For Women Scotland (FWS) had argued those rights
should only apply based on a person's biological sex, and had
challenged guidance issued by the devolved Scottish government over
a 2018 law that was designed to increase the proportion of women
on public sector boards.
Scottish ministers' guidance on that law stated that a trans woman
with a full GRC was legally a woman.
"The terms women and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological
woman and biological sex, but we counsel against reading this judgment
as a triumph for one or more groups in our society at the expense
of another - it is not," Patrick Hodge, Deputy President of the Supreme Court.
<https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uks-highest-court-rule-definition-woman-under-equality-laws-2025-04-15/>
In <b1726bc2fc.1744797086@nulxt.fn> Mugby wrote:
[...] Campaign group For Women Scotland (FWS) had argued those rights
should only apply based on a person's biological sex, and had
challenged guidance issued by the devolved Scottish government over
a 2018 law that was designed to increase the proportion of women
on public sector boards.
What would you expect from a country where the men wear dresses?
Scottish ministers' guidance on that law stated that a trans woman
with a full GRC was legally a woman.
It goes without saying that Scottish politicians are stubborn and
stupid sheep fuckers.
It's purely an accident of nature that they manage to reproduce. [...]
What would you expect from a country where the men wear dresses?
On 17/04/25 08:20, monkeypox wrote:
What would you expect from a country where the men wear dresses?
If you take the long view, something equivalent to a dress or skirt
would have been standard male attire in a majority of countries at some
stage in history. In fact most of Europe, in historical times, moved
from that to four separate garments: a sort of breechclout plus two stocking-type leggings, plus a suspender belt to stop the leggings from falling down. Sometimes that complicated mess was hidden under a short
dress. The development of trousers, where the leg parts were permanently attached to the top bit, had to wait for a new style of tailoring.
Not every country made that change. In many Arab countries, men still
wear loose robes that are basically long dresses. In a hot country,
these provide protection from the sun plus the comfort of underskirt air circulation. There is no great motivation to move to less comfortable western-style clothing.
I myself used to wear pyjamas to bed on winter nights. But I turn around
a lot in the course of the night, and pyjamas can become tangled. So I switched to a simple nightshirt, which is a lot more comfortable. Does
it make me look like a woman? Not really.
On 17/04/25 08:20, monkeypox wrote:
What would you expect from a country where the men wear dresses?
If you take the long view, something equivalent to a dress or skirt
would have been standard male attire in a majority of countries at some
stage in history. In fact most of Europe, in historical times, moved
from that to four separate garments: a sort of breechclout plus two stocking-type leggings, plus a suspender belt to stop the leggings from falling down. Sometimes that complicated mess was hidden under a short
dress. The development of trousers, where the leg parts were permanently attached to the top bit, had to wait for a new style of tailoring.
Not every country made that change. In many Arab countries, men still
wear loose robes that are basically long dresses.
In a hot country,
these provide protection from the sun plus the comfort of underskirt air circulation. There is no great motivation to move to less comfortable western-style clothing.
I myself used to wear pyjamas to bed on winter nights. But I turn around
a lot in the course of the night, and pyjamas can become tangled. So I switched to a simple nightshirt, which is a lot more comfortable. Does
it make me look like a woman? Not really.
On 2025-04-18 05:28, Peter Moylan wrote:
On 17/04/25 08:20, monkeypox wrote:
What would you expect from a country where the men wear dresses?
If you take the long view, something equivalent to a dress or skirt
would have been standard male attire in a majority of countries at some
stage in history. In fact most of Europe, in historical times, moved
from that to four separate garments: a sort of breechclout plus two
stocking-type leggings, plus a suspender belt to stop the leggings from
falling down. Sometimes that complicated mess was hidden under a short
dress. The development of trousers, where the leg parts were permanently
attached to the top bit, had to wait for a new style of tailoring.
Not every country made that change. In many Arab countries, men still
wear loose robes that are basically long dresses.
I don't know where I heard it or which Arab language it referenced, but
it was that they called westerners "People who confine their farts."
Any idea if that's true?
In a hot country,
these provide protection from the sun plus the comfort of underskirt air
circulation. There is no great motivation to move to less comfortable
western-style clothing.
I myself used to wear pyjamas to bed on winter nights. But I turn around
a lot in the course of the night, and pyjamas can become tangled. So I
switched to a simple nightshirt, which is a lot more comfortable. Does
it make me look like a woman? Not really.
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