On 5/27/2025 2:25 PM, P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestasâ€"to complain or to moan
in Greekâ€"and on the right, Dismasâ€"the Greek word for "death" or
"sunset." The Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the
apocryphal Book of Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the
good thief" is often depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding
his cross, and sometimes even in paradise.» Uncover the identity of
the man who helped Jesus carry the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were
CrucifiedRecent historical studies have found that Crucifixion was
actually quite a rare punishment in Rome; thieves usually had to
repay what they stole along with added fines and were subjected to
other smaller forms of retribution. However, traveling banditsâ€"who
were also often political rebelsâ€"were endemic to the Roman Empire.
This seems a more likely match of these characters and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common inscription on
many Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars that
Dismas may have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have
had a noble cause. A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the
name of Bulla Felix, fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves
React to the Presence of Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his
actions and didn't complain about his crucifixion at all. He
exercised humility, taking responsibility for what he did and owning
his mistakes. He saw the innocence, selflessness, and glory of
Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as the Son of God and asked him to
take him to heaven, as is written in Luke 23:42:"Jesus, remember me
when You come into Your kingdom.†Jesus replied, “Amen, I say to >> you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.†This is why in ancient
paintings, he often appears to be in heaven, depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means “deeds†or “acts†in Latinâ€"and
Gestas felt the effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting
Jesus along with the crowd. Gestas said, “Aren’t you the
Messiah? Save yourself and us!†Dismas rebuked him:“Don’t you
fear God,†he said, “since you are under the same sentence? We >> are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But
this man has done nothing wrong.â€â€"Luke 23: 39-41 NIVGestas had
the same opportunity that Dismas didâ€"to repent, to see the majesty
of the Lord, and to ask for forgivenessâ€"but he turned away instead.
Gestas was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather than
move closer to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-next-t
o- jesus
You're being too literal; Luke's account of Jesus' Passion is not
historical.
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or to moan in Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" or "sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the apocryphal Book of Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good thief" is often depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross, and sometimes
even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who helped Jesus carry the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent historical studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare punishment in Rome; thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with added fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution. However, traveling bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic to the Roman Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters and their punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common inscription on many Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars that Dismas may have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have had a noble cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the Presence of Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and didn't complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility, taking responsibility for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as the Son of
God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.� Jesus replied, �Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.� This is why in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven, depicted as a saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and Gestas felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus along with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!� Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since you are under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23: 39-41 NIVGestas had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see the majesty of the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away instead. Gestas
was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather than move closer
to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-next-to- jesus
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or to moan in
Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" or "sunset." >>> The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the apocryphal Book of >>> Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good thief" is often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross, and sometimes >>> even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who helped Jesus
carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent historical studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare punishment in
Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with added fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution. However, traveling >>> bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic to the Roman >>> Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common inscription on
many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars that Dismas
may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have had a noble
cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the Presence of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and didn't complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility, taking
responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as the Son of >>> God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.� Jesus
replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.� This is why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven, depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and Gestas felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus along with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!� >>> Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since you are under
the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds >>> deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23: 39-41 NIVGestas >>> had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see the majesty >>> of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away instead. Gestas >>> was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather than move closer >>> to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-next-to- >>> jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross. and he gave it
to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis, that means
that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or to
moan in
Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" or
"sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the
apocryphal Book of
Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good thief"
is often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross, and
sometimes
even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who helped
Jesus carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent historical
studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare
punishment in Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with added
fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution. However,
traveling
bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic to
the Roman
Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters and
their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common
inscription on many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars
that Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have had a
noble cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of
Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the
Presence of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and didn't
complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility, taking
responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as
the Son of
God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.�
Jesus replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.�
This is why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven,
depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and Gestas
felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus along
with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save yourself
and us!�
Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since you
are under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what
our deeds
deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23: 39-41
NIVGestas
had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see the
majesty of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away
instead. Gestas
was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather than
move closer
to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-next-to- >>>
jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross. and he
gave it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis, that
means that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
Dawn
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or to moan
in Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" or >>> "sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the apocryphal
Book of Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good
thief" is often depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his
cross, and sometimes even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of
the man who helped Jesus carry the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were
CrucifiedRecent historical studies have found that Crucifixion was
actually quite a rare punishment in Rome; thieves usually had to
repay what they stole along with added fines and were subjected to
other smaller forms of retribution. However, traveling bandits�who
were also often political rebels�were endemic to the Roman Empire.
This seems a more likely match of these characters and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common inscription on
many Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars that
Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have had a noble
cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of Bulla
Felix, fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the
Presence of Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and
didn't complain about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility,
taking responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as the
Son of God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in
Luke 23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.�
Jesus replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.�
This is why in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven,
depicted as a saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in
Latin�and Gestas felt the effects of his acts by being selfish and
taunting Jesus along with the crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you >>> the Messiah? Save yourself and us!� Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t
you fear God,� he said, �since you are under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our
deeds deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23:
39-41 NIVGestas had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to
repent, to see the majesty of the Lord, and to ask for
forgiveness�but he turned away instead. Gestas was not a saint and
chose to suffer for eternity rather than move closer to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-next-
to- jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross. and he gave
it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis, that
means that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or to moan in
Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" or
"sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the apocryphal Book of >>> Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good thief" is often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross, and sometimes >>> even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who helped Jesus
carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent historical studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare punishment in
Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with added fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution. However, traveling >>> bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic to the Roman >>> Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common inscription on
many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars that
Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have had a noble
cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the Presence of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and didn't complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility, taking
responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as the Son of >>> God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.� Jesus
replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.� This is why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven, depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and Gestas felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus along with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!� >>> Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since you are >>> under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds >>> deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23: 39-41 NIVGestas >>> had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see the
majesty of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away instead. Gestas >>> was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather than move closer >>> to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-next-to- >>> jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross. and he gave
it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis, that means
that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
On 6/2/2025 9:51 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or to
moan in
Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" or
"sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the
apocryphal Book of
Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good thief"
is often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross,
and sometimes
even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who helped
Jesus carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent
historical studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare
punishment in Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with added
fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution.
However, traveling
bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic to
the Roman
Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters
and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common
inscription on many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars
that Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have had a
noble cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of
Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the
Presence of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and didn't
complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility, taking
responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as
the Son of
God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.�
Jesus replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.�
This is why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven,
depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and Gestas >>>> felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus along
with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save yourself
and us!�
Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since you
are under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting
what our deeds
deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23: 39-41
NIVGestas
had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see
the majesty of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away
instead. Gestas
was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather than
move closer
to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-next-to- >>>>
jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross. and
he gave it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis,
that means that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
How do atheists explain existence?
On 6/3/2025 2:02 PM, jojo wrote:
monkey meet wrote:
On 6/2/2025 9:51 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or to moan in >>>>>> Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" or
"sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the apocryphal Book >>>>>> of
Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good thief" is
often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross, and
sometimes
even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who helped Jesus >>>>>> carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent historical
studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare punishment in >>>>>> Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with added fines >>>>>> and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution. However,
traveling
bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic to the >>>>>> Roman
Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters and their >>>>>> punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common inscription on >>>>>> many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars that
Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have had a noble >>>>>> cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of Bulla
Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the Presence >>>>>> of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and didn't complain >>>>>> about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility, taking
responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus as the Son >>>>>> of
God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.� Jesus >>>>>> replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.� This is >>>>>> why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven, depicted as a >>>>>> saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and Gestas felt
the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus along with >>>>>> the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save yourself and us!�
Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since you are >>>>>> under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting what our >>>>>> deeds
deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23: 39-41
NIVGestas
had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see the
majesty of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away instead. >>>>>> Gestas
was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather than move
closer
to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified-
next-to-
jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross. and he gave >>>>> it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis, that means >>>> that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
How do atheists explain existence?
same way theists explain god's existence.
LOL!
Maybe the Cosmos is simply eternal:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message news:101o37c$bps9$1@dont-email.me...
On 6/3/2025 2:02 PM, jojo wrote:
monkey meet wrote:
On 6/2/2025 9:51 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or
to moan in
Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death"
or "sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the
apocryphal Book of
Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good
thief" is often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross,
and sometimes
even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who
helped Jesus carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent
historical studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare
punishment in Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with
added fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution.
However, traveling
bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic
to the Roman
Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters
and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common
inscription on many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars
that Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have
had a noble cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of
Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the
Presence of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and
didn't complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility,
taking responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the
innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus
as the Son of
God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in
Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your
kingdom.� Jesus replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in
Paradise.� This is why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven,
depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and >>>>>>> Gestas felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus
along with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save
yourself and us!�
Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since >>>>>>> you are under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting
what our deeds
deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23:
39-41 NIVGestas
had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see
the majesty of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away
instead. Gestas
was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather
than move closer
to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified- >>>>>>> next-to-
jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross.
and he gave it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis,
that means that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
How do atheists explain existence?
same way theists explain god's existence.
LOL!
Maybe the Cosmos is simply eternal:
Actually, that doesn't seem likely. We have a moment of origin we
have a time frame for the heat death of the universe.. unless
science is wrong. then there is an effective limit
Scout wrote:
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news:101o37c$bps9$1@dont-email.me...
On 6/3/2025 2:02 PM, jojo wrote:
monkey meet wrote:
On 6/2/2025 9:51 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or >>>>>>>> to moan in
Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death" >>>>>>>> or "sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the
apocryphal Book of
Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good
thief" is often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross,
and sometimes
even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who
helped Jesus carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent
historical studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare
punishment in Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with
added fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution.
However, traveling
bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic >>>>>>>> to the Roman
Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters
and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common
inscription on many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars
that Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have
had a noble cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of
Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the
Presence of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and
didn't complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility,
taking responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the
innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus
as the Son of
God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in
Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your
kingdom.� Jesus replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in
Paradise.� This is why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven,
depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and
Gestas felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus
along with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save >>>>>>>> yourself and us!�
Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since
you are under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting
what our deeds
deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23: >>>>>>>> 39-41 NIVGestas
had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see >>>>>>>> the majesty of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away
instead. Gestas
was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather
than move closer
to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified- >>>>>>>> next-to-
jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross.
and he gave it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis,
that means that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
How do atheists explain existence?
same way theists explain god's existence.
LOL!
Maybe the Cosmos is simply eternal:
Actually, that doesn't seem likely. We have a moment of origin we
have a time frame for the heat death of the universe.. unless
science is wrong. then there is an effective limit
heat death is not a certainty, cosmological constant differs in
different regions of space and there seems to be a new
observation about the rate of acceleration slowing down.
Scout wrote:
"Dawn Flood" <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:101o37c$bps9$1@dont-email.me...
On 6/3/2025 2:02 PM, jojo wrote:
monkey meet wrote:
On 6/2/2025 9:51 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:
On 5/29/2025 11:41 AM, jojo wrote:
P. Coonan wrote:
Note the character of the man on the left.
On the left of Jesus was a man named Gestas�to complain or
to moan in
Greek�and on the right, Dismas�the Greek word for "death"
or "sunset." The
Gospel of Luke names them thieves or robbers, and the
apocryphal Book of
Nicodemus gives us their names. "Saint Dismas the good
thief" is often
depicted wearing a loincloth, sometimes holding his cross,
and sometimes
even in paradise.� Uncover the identity of the man who
helped Jesus carry
the crossWhy Gestas and Dismas Were CrucifiedRecent
historical studies
have found that Crucifixion was actually quite a rare
punishment in Rome;
thieves usually had to repay what they stole along with
added fines and
were subjected to other smaller forms of retribution.
However, traveling
bandits�who were also often political rebels�were endemic
to the Roman
Empire. This seems a more likely match of these characters
and their
punishment. In fact, "killed by bandits" was a common
inscription on many
Roman gravestones.It has also been argued by some scholars
that Dismas may
have been a "Robin Hood" type bandit - that he may have
had a noble cause.
A fitting ancient Roman folklore character, by the name of
Bulla Felix,
fits this description.How Did the Two Thieves React to the
Presence of
Christ?DismasDismas felt guilty about his actions and
didn't complain
about his crucifixion at all. He exercised humility,
taking responsibility
for what he did and owning his mistakes. He saw the
innocence,
selflessness, and glory of Christ. Dismas recognized Jesus
as the Son of
God and asked him to take him to heaven, as is written in
Luke
23:42:"Jesus, remember me when You come into Your
kingdom.� Jesus replied,
�Amen, I say to you, today you will be with Me in
Paradise.� This is why
in ancient paintings, he often appears to be in heaven,
depicted as a
saint.GestasGesta means �deeds� or �acts� in Latin�and >>>>>>>> Gestas felt the
effects of his acts by being selfish and taunting Jesus
along with the
crowd. Gestas said, �Aren�t you the Messiah? Save
yourself and us!�
Dismas rebuked him:�Don�t you fear God,� he said, �since >>>>>>>> you are under the
same sentence? We are punished justly, for we are getting
what our deeds
deserve. But this man has done nothing wrong.��Luke 23:
39-41 NIVGestas
had the same opportunity that Dismas did�to repent, to see
the majesty of
the Lord, and to ask for forgiveness�but he turned away
instead. Gestas
was not a saint and chose to suffer for eternity rather
than move closer
to God.
https://www.artzabox.com/a/blog/bible-stories/who-was-crucified- >>>>>>>> next-to-
jesus
jesus turned his blood into morphine while on the cross.
and he gave it to the followers and other nailed people.
And, because no one can disprove your historical hypothesis,
that means that it *must* be true!
Get it now??
How do atheists explain existence?
same way theists explain god's existence.
LOL!
Maybe the Cosmos is simply eternal:
Actually, that doesn't seem likely. We have a moment of origin we
have a time frame for the heat death of the universe.. unless
science is wrong. then there is an effective limit
heat death is not a certainty, cosmological constant differs in
different regions of space and there seems to be a new
observation about the rate of acceleration slowing down.
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