• Re: We Have No Constitutional or Moral Duty to Subsidize Harvard

    From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Planet of the apes on Sat May 31 13:05:28 2025
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    Planet of the apes <enough.of.the@apes.usa> wrote in news:101e6kg$sg6$3@news.tambov.ru:


    Harvard, a private institution, can do as it likes. Theres nothing
    illegal about coddling extremists or pumping out credentialed pseudointellectuals.


    If Harvard only pumping out "pseudointellectuals"
    why does he keep appointing them?




    Harvard Alums Donald Trump Nominated To Serve in His Cabinet
    Nov 18 2024 https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/11/18/harvard-alumni-trump-cabinet/

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  • From Trumpenstein@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 1 20:11:07 2025
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    On 30 May 2025, Planet of the apes <enough.of.the@apes.usa> posted some news:101e6kg$sg6$3@news.tambov.ru:

    Do taxpayers have a constitutional duty to bankroll Harvard
    University?

    On MSNBC, David French argued that the Trump administrations
    defunding of Harvard is little more than political retaliation. In
    the United States, we dont sentence people before hearing the
    verdict, the New York Times columnist said. Ignoring due process is
    directly contrary to our constitutional principles.

    French might not be aware that in addition to the joint-government
    task forces claim that Harvard leadership failed to meaningfully
    confront pervasive insults, physical assault and intimidation of
    Jewish students, theres also a blistering internal university
    taskforce report that maintains that Harvard allowed antisemitism to
    permeate coursework, social life, the hiring of some faculty members
    and the worldview of certain academic programs. Harvard concedes,
    members of the Jewish and Israeli communities at Harvard reported
    treatment that was vicious and reprehensible.

    The verdict is in.

    But, I suppose, Id pose the situation in another way: If a government investigation and internal review both found that white supremacists
    on Harvard campus were terrorizing black students and engaging in
    racist marchers and that their violent beliefs had found favor in the schools curriculums and in social life, would anyone on MSNBC argue
    that the government had an obligation to keep funding this school
    until a civil lawsuit worked its way through the courts? One suspects
    not.

    Now, Im not accusing French of being blind to the struggles of Jewish students. I am accusing him of being blinded by the presence of Donald
    Trump. Are the presidents motivations political? Probably. So what?
    So are those of Harvards defenders.

    Harvard, a private institution, can do as it likes. Theres nothing
    illegal about coddling extremists or pumping out credentialed pseudointellectuals. If the Trump administration failed to follow a bureaucratic process before freezing funds to the university, fine.
    Get it done. But what constitutional principle dictates that the
    federal government must provide this specific institution with $3
    billion in federal contracts and grants? Giving it to them was a
    policy decision made by the executive branch. Withdrawing the funding
    is the same.

    French reasons that the administration should, at very least, target
    the entity and individuals responsible for the bad behavior. Defund
    the Middle Eastern studies department, rather than, say, the pediatric
    cancer research department. Im sympathetic to this idea. But funding,
    as we all understand, is fungible. Targeting one department will do
    nothing to change the culture.

    Moreover, leadership is responsible for the culture. It allowed, nay, nurtured, a Middle East Studies department staffed by a slew of
    nutjobs. Its not the only department. Think about it this way: There
    is a far higher likelihood of finding an apologist of Islamic
    terrorism than a Christian conservative on the Harvard faculty. Less
    than 3% of the Harvard faculty identify as conservative. There are
    real-world consequences for Harvards radicalism, as their grads are
    staffing newsrooms, influential law firms and government agencies
    without ever hearing a dissenting view.

    Anyway, if the school values its pediatric cancer research efforts so
    highly, why does it sacrifice grants and prestige by allowing bigoted
    bullies to run around campus targeting Jews? Thats a choice. As far
    as I can tell, not one student was expelled, much less suspended, for antisemitism in the two years since Oct. 7, 2023.

    If your answer is that the school feels a profound obligation to
    defend free expression, I suggest you speak to some pro-Israeli or pro-capitalist or pro-American or social conservative student on
    campus and see how comfortable they feel about airing opinions.
    Harvard finished last for the second year running in the Foundation
    for Individual Rights and Expressions College Free Speech Rankings
    in 2024, along with Columbia University and New York University. The
    only speech Harvard values is the extremist variety.

    We should feel no patriotic imperative to fund speech we dislike,
    which is very different from the imperative of protecting speech we
    dislike. This distinction seems to be lost on many.

    Harvard, along with many left-wingers, argues that Trumps funding
    freeze violates its First Amendment rights. Who knows what the courts
    will say? If they force the funding to continue, something is
    seriously wrong. Anyway, perhaps Harvard should dip into the $53
    billion hedge fund it runs to backfill some of the funding. Or maybe
    it can hit up the Islamic sheiks of Qatar for some more cash. How
    about those Chicom apparatchiks? Maybe they can chip in. But taxpayers shouldnt be compelled to subsidize an institution that almost
    exclusively teaches students to hate their values.

    https://amac.us/newsline/education/we-have-no-constitutional-or-moral- duty-to-subsidize-harvard/

    Harvard went woke. The only cure is to remove the woke teachers and
    execute them all as a lesson to others.

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  • From Clave@21:1/5 to Planet of the apes on Mon Jun 2 21:34:03 2025
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    On 5/30/2025 11:12 PM, Planet of the apes wrote:
    Do taxpayers have a constitutional duty to bankroll Harvard University?

    Grants to Harvard are not "subsidies."


    On MSNBC, David French argued that the Trump administration’s defunding of Harvard is little more than “political retaliation.”

    French is 100% right.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Clave on Tue Jun 3 09:15:19 2025
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    "Clave" <ChrisShitbagious@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message news:%Wu%P.42581$x6q4.34487@fx46.iad...
    On 5/30/2025 11:12 PM, Planet of the apes wrote:
    Do taxpayers have a constitutional duty to bankroll Harvard University?

    Grants to Harvard are not "subsidies."

    Great and since they are not subsidies according to you, there is no reason
    to continue them much less offer them.

    "Grants and subsidies are both forms of financial assistance provided by governments or organizations,
    but they differ in their purpose and how they are applied. Grants are
    typically one-time payments for
    specific projects or initiatives, while subsidies aim to reduce the cost of goods or services, encourage
    production, or support specific industries."



    On MSNBC, David French argued that the Trump administration’s defunding
    of
    Harvard is little more than “political retaliation.”

    French is 100% right.

    How can that be if, as according to you, they aren't subsides?

    You can't have it both ways there bubba...

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jun 3 09:38:23 2025
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    On 3/6/25 6:15, Scout wrote:
    Great and since they are not subsidies according to you, there is
    no reason to continue them much less offer them.

    The reason is if they do good for society.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Tue Jun 3 14:13:09 2025
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    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:101n8e0$4t9n$2@dont-email.me...
    On 3/6/25 6:15, Scout wrote:
    Great and since they are not subsidies according to you, there is
    no reason to continue them much less offer them.

    The reason is if they do good for society.

    Prove it.

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  • From Alan Bond@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 4 16:23:28 2025
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    Blowjob *still* doesn't know what his tell is.

    On 6/3/2025 5:51 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted
    child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 03 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:101mvci$1vd6$1@dont-email.me:



    "Clave" <ChrisShitbagious@TheMonastery.com> wrote in message
    news:%Wu%P.42581$x6q4.34487@fx46.iad...
    On 5/30/2025 11:12 PM, Planet of the apes wrote:
    Do taxpayers have a constitutional duty to bankroll Harvard
    University?

    Grants to Harvard are not "subsidies."

    Great and since they are not subsidies according to you, there is no
    reason to continue them much less offer them.

    "Grants and subsidies are both forms of financial assistance provided
    by governments or organizations,
    but they differ in their purpose and how they are applied. Grants are
    typically one-time payments for
    specific projects or initiatives, while subsidies aim to reduce the
    cost of goods or services, encourage
    production, or support specific industries."



    On MSNBC, David French argued that the Trump administration’s
    defunding of
    Harvard is little more than “political retaliation.”

    French is 100% right.

    How can that be if, as [sic] according to you, they aren't subsides?

    They're not subsidies, scooter. "as" is superfluous, scooter.


    You can't have it both ways there bubba...

    +1

    Shut the fuck up, Blowjob, you *fat* stupid cuck.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Alan Bond on Wed Jun 4 23:34:19 2025
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    On 4/6/25 16:23, Alan Bond wrote:
    On MSNBC, David French argued that the Trump administration’s
    defunding of
    Harvard is little more than “political retaliation.”

    French is 100% right.

    How can that be if, as [sic] according to you, they aren't
    subsides?

    They're not subsidies, scooter. "as" is superfluous, scooter.

    I do not care. They are whatever Congress called them. Congress
    giveth. All praise to Congress.

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 6 08:53:39 2025
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    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/5/2025 11:22 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 05 Jun 2025, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> posted some news:HHs0Q.543185$mjgd.381185@fx09.iad:

    On 6/5/2025 6:48 PM, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-06-05, Billy Clubbs <BILCLU@hotmail.corn> wrote:
    On 03 Jun 2025, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> posted some
    news:101o0f6$b1m2$2@dont-email.me:

    On 6/3/25 19:18, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 02 Jun 2025, Clave <ChrisShitbagious@TheMonastery.com> posted
    some news:%Wu%P.42581$x6q4.34487@fx46.iad:

    On 5/30/2025 11:12 PM, Planet of the apes wrote:
    Do taxpayers have a constitutional duty to bankroll Harvard
    University?

    Grants to Harvard are not "subsidies."

    Grants to Harvard are currently used as renewable subsidies. That >>>>>> needs to stop and Trump is putting the kibosh on.

    The grants going to Harvard are <$0.7B/year ... since that's too
    expensive for you, reallocate the work to the private sector in the
    US National Labs ... because they employ PhDs & pay them well
    instead of graduate students figure it will increase their current
    $12B budget by a at least 10% = $1.2B, or roughly twice as
    expensive.

    Taxpayers for the win! Yay, you! /s

    There are other colleges besides Harvard. Berkeley for all its
    leftward leanings, would do a better job than Harvard hands down.
    Has done a better job than Harvard historically.


    Despite being totally leftwing, Berkeley is a very good college.

    It is not "leftwing" [sic], and it's not a "college" — it's a
    university.

    My cousin graduated from Berkeley and has had an excellent career so
    far.
    TBH, I was kind of surprised but the school focuses on education and
    leaves the political leanings to after school clubs and so forth.
    In other words, your labeling of it as "totally leftwing" [sic] was
    complete bullshit.

    There is a famous maxim popularized by Stephen Colbert:

    Colbert is

    your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior. He's 5'11" — taller than you.

    Reality has a liberal bias. This is settled.

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