• Re: "The jury also found Trump did not rape Carroll, as Carroll had all

    From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Jun 14 12:14:04 2025
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    On 6/14/2025 10:51 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in
    relation to Carroll’s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future plaintiff >> or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow LEGAL definition of "rape" in New York State.

    If the trial were to be held today with the same jury and same evidence, the jury *would* find that Trump raped Carroll. The law in New York has changed (for
    the better) since the trial.



    They DID find that Trump had assaulted Carroll and the judge noted that that assault met the ordinary definition of "rape".
    And the current legal definition as well.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Sat Jun 14 13:31:09 2025
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    On 2025-06-14 12:14, J Carlson wrote:
    On 6/14/2025 10:51 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said
    they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump lewdly >>> spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in
    relation to Carroll’s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future
    plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct in >>> which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter
    made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow
    LEGAL definition of "rape" in New York State.

    If the trial were to be held today with the same jury and same evidence,
    the jury *would* find that Trump raped Carroll. The law in New York has changed (for the better) since the trial.



    They DID find that Trump had assaulted Carroll and the judge noted
    that that assault met the ordinary definition of "rape".
    And the current legal definition as well.

    Not the New York State definition.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 14 14:54:26 2025
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    In article <102khls$9f5a$1@dont-email.me>, notgenx32
    @yahoo.com says...

    On 6/14/2025 10:51 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said they >> would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump lewdly >> spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in
    relation to Carroll?s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future plaintiff >> or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct in >> which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter made a >> sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow LEGAL definition of "rape" in New York State.

    If the trial were to be held today with the same jury and same evidence, the jury *would* find that Trump raped Carroll. The law in New York has changed (for
    the better) since the trial.

    LOL...What a loon.



    They DID find that Trump had assaulted Carroll and the judge noted that that
    assault met the ordinary definition of "rape".
    And the current legal definition as well.

    Nope. No rape and no insurrection.

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  • From Dutch@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jun 15 12:58:28 2025
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    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said they >>> would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump lewdly >>> spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in
    relation to Carroll’s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future plaintiff >>> or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct in >>> which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter made a >>> sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today, the jury would
    find that Trump raped her.




    They DID find that Trump had assaulted Carroll and the judge noted that
    that assault met the ordinary definition of "rape".

    The judge's statement was both improper and irrelevant to the case

    It was not in the least improper, and it had no bearing on the case. The verdict
    had already been rendered.

    Trump raped Carroll.

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  • From Chris Voigtlander@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 17:58:59 2025
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    [Nazi filth newsgroups alt.politics.trump and alt.politics.republicans removed]

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/15/2025 1:34 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 15 Jun 2025, Dutch <no@email.com> posted some news:tBF3Q.1662112$%pKb.1316088@fx14.iad:

    On 6/15/2025 6:15 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 14:45:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 13:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <102kcqn$amgl$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and
    said they would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the >>>>>>> verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump >>>>>>> lewdly spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant >>>>>>> context in relation to Carroll?s claims. The tape functioned as
    "propensity evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, >>>>>>> the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future >>>>>>> plaintiff or the government will be able to introduce evidence of >>>>>>> prior conduct in which a defendant went on a mundane outing and
    sometime thereafter made a sexual advance," they wrote in their
    dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow >>>>>> LEGAL definition of "rape" in New York State.

    So no rape then.

    Not officially, no.

    But I notice you don't dispute that they found he had committed
    sexual assault.

    The idea that civil courts can ignore criminal courts and make
    findings about criminal findings

    That did not happen.

    Yes it did.
    No, Blowjob, it did not. The civil Carroll case did not "ignore criminal courts and make findings about criminal findings."

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  • From Derek Nash@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 08:33:39 2025
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    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/15/2025 6:27 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 15 Jun 2025, Chris Voigtlander <jacque.idiot.pal@number.2> posted
    some news:n%J3Q.195187$IJr4.47352@fx47.iad:

    [Nazi filth newsgroups alt.politics.trump and alt.politics.republicans
    removed]

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/15/2025 1:34 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 15 Jun 2025, Dutch <no@email.com> posted some
    news:tBF3Q.1662112$%pKb.1316088@fx14.iad:

    On 6/15/2025 6:15 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 14:45:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 13:53, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <102kcqn$amgl$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
    says...

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and >>>>>>>>> said they would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered >>>>>>>>> the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which
    Trump lewdly spoke about making passes at women, did not offer >>>>>>>>> relevant context in relation to Carroll?s claims. The tape
    functioned as "propensity evidence," which is typically
    inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a
    future plaintiff or the government will be able to introduce >>>>>>>>> evidence of prior conduct in which a defendant went on a
    mundane outing and sometime thereafter made a sexual advance," >>>>>>>>> they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the
    narrow LEGAL definition of "rape" in New York State.

    So no rape then.

    Not officially, no.

    But I notice you don't dispute that they found he had committed
    sexual assault.

    The idea that civil courts can ignore criminal courts and make
    findings about criminal findings

    That did not happen.

    Yes it did.
    No, Blowjob, it did not. The civil Carroll case did not "ignore criminal courts
    and make findings about criminal findings."

    Correct,

    Correct. It didn't happen, Blowjob.

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  • From Dutch@21:1/5 to Dutch on Tue Jun 17 13:13:50 2025
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    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said they >>>> would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump lewdly >>>> spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in
    relation to Carroll’s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future plaintiff >>>> or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct in >>>> which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter made a >>>> sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow LEGAL >>> definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today, the jury would
    find that Trump raped her.




    They DID find that Trump had assaulted Carroll and the judge noted that
    that assault met the ordinary definition of "rape".

    The judge's statement was both improper and irrelevant to the case

    It was not in the least improper, and it had no bearing on the case. The verdict
    had already been rendered.

    Trump raped Carroll.


    And "NoBody" runs away again...

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Dutch on Wed Jun 18 07:45:35 2025
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    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said >>>>> they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump
    lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in >>>>> relation to Carroll’s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said. >>>>>
    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future
    plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct >>>>> in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter
    made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow
    LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly
    found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today,
    the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post
    facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the time
    the supposed crime occurred.

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  • From Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discours@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu Jun 19 02:50:28 2025
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    XPost: sac.politics, talk.politics.misc

    In <102ud7e$34r1t$3@dont-email.me> Scout wrote:



    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said >>>>>> they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump
    lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in >>>>>> relation to Carroll’s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity >>>>>> evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said. >>>>>>
    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future
    plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct >>>>>> in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter >>>>>> made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow
    LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly
    found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today,
    the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the time the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for
    selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Thu Jun 19 02:16:39 2025
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    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:102ud7e$34r1t$3@dont-email.me:



    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and
    said they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump
    lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant
    context in relation to Carroll’s claims. The tape functioned as
    "propensity evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court,
    the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future
    plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior
    conduct in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime
    thereafter made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow
    LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury
    correctly found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial
    were held today, the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the
    time the supposed crime occurred.




    That was the defense at the Nuremburg Trials.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 18 21:00:13 2025
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    On 18/6/25 17:50, Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse wrote:
    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for
    selective retroactive indictments?

    <https://zeroabuseproject.org/biden-signs-bill-eliminating-civil-statute-of-limitations-for-child-sex-abuse-victims/>

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 10:50:10 2025
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    "Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse" <lets.go.brandon@salon.com> wrote in message news:20250619.025028.aeae2713@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    In <102ud7e$34r1t$3@dont-email.me> Scout wrote:



    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said >>>>>>> they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict. >>>>>>>
    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump >>>>>>> lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context >>>>>>> in
    relation to Carrollâ,"s claims. The tape functioned as
    "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges
    said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future >>>>>>> plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior
    conduct
    in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter >>>>>>> made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow >>>>>> LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly >>>> found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today, >>>> the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post
    facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the
    time
    the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for
    selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    Nothing says they couldn't try, but keep in mind that 42USC1983 would allow
    you to directly sue the individuals responsible for infringements upon your rights and they would be personally liable for any damages awarded from such
    a suit.

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  • From Dutch@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 09:26:17 2025
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    On 6/19/2025 7:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse" <lets.go.brandon@salon.com> wrote in message news:20250619.025028.aeae2713@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said >>>>>>>> they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict. >>>>>>>>
    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump >>>>>>>> lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in >>>>>>>> relation to Carrollââ,¬â"¢s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said. >>>>>>>>
    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future >>>>>>>> plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct >>>>>>>> in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter >>>>>>>> made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow >>>>>>> LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly >>>>> found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today, >>>>> the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post
    facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the time >>> the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for
    selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault- >> survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    Nothing says they couldn't try, but keep in mind that 42USC1983 would allow you
    to directly sue the individuals responsible for infringements upon your rights
    and they would be personally liable for any damages awarded from such a suit.

    Whenever the law-illiterate scooter starts blabbering about sections of the United States code, what follows is always bullshit.

    That section of the code contemplates civil liability for a deprivation of civil
    rights by state and local government officials. E. Jean Carroll, of course, was never a government official, and nothing she did violated any of Trump's civil rights. Trump, of course, raped Carroll. The judge and other court officials involved in Carroll's successful suit against the rapist Trump also never infringed any of the rapist Trump's civil rights. The rapist was given full due process, and he also received full due process in Alvin Bragg's successful criminal prosecution of him, as well as Letitia James's civil fraud case.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Dutch on Fri Jun 20 09:38:51 2025
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    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:KSW4Q.316965$wdi3.182725@fx45.iad...
    On 6/19/2025 7:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse" <lets.go.brandon@salon.com> wrote
    in message news:20250619.025028.aeae2713@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
    frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and >>>>>>>>> said
    they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict. >>>>>>>>>
    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump >>>>>>>>> lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context >>>>>>>>> in
    relation to Carrollââ,¬â"¢s claims. The tape functioned as >>>>>>>>> "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges >>>>>>>>> said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future >>>>>>>>> plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior >>>>>>>>> conduct
    in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter >>>>>>>>> made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow >>>>>>>> LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury
    correctly
    found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held
    today,
    the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post >>>> facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the
    time
    the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for
    selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault- >>> survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    Nothing says they couldn't try, but keep in mind that 42USC1983 would
    allow you to directly sue the individuals responsible for infringements
    upon your rights and they would be personally liable for any damages
    awarded from such a suit.

    Whenever the law-illiterate scooter starts blabbering about sections of
    the United States code, what follows is always bullshit.

    Keep in mind the claim here --- "always bullshit"

    That section of the code contemplates civil liability for a deprivation of civil rights by state and local government officials.

    Like say New York state government officials attempting to retroactively
    apply changes in the law to allow persecution of someone???



    E. Jean Carroll, of course, was never a government official, and nothing
    she did violated any of Trump's civil rights.

    And just like that Rudy is off into the weeds attacking an argument I never made.

    What I did say... Rudy has admitted was actually factual..

    Of course once you understand that Rudy had problems with logic, reason, understanding or even comprehension.. his inadequacies become painfully
    obvious to anyone but Rudy himself.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lee@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 12:04:31 2025
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    On 6/20/2025 6:38 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message news:KSW4Q.316965$wdi3.182725@fx45.iad...
    On 6/19/2025 7:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse" <lets.go.brandon@salon.com> wrote in >>> message news:20250619.025028.aeae2713@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
    frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said >>>>>>>>>> they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict. >>>>>>>>>>
    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump >>>>>>>>>> lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in
    relation to Carrollââ,¬â"¢s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future >>>>>>>>>> plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct
    in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter >>>>>>>>>> made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow >>>>>>>>> LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly >>>>>>> found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today, >>>>>>> the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post >>>>> facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the time
    the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for
    selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault- >>>> survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    Nothing says they couldn't try, but keep in mind that 42USC1983 would allow >>> you to directly sue the individuals responsible for infringements upon your >>> rights and they would be personally liable for any damages awarded from such
    a suit.

    Whenever the law-illiterate scooter starts blabbering about sections of the >> United States code, what follows is always bullshit.

    Keep in mind the claim here --- "always bullshit"

    Yes, scooter. Whenever you start blabbering about either the Constitution or statutory law, what follows is always bullshit — 100% of the time.


    That section of the code contemplates civil liability for a deprivation of >> civil rights by state and local government officials.

    Like say New York state government officials attempting to retroactively apply
    changes in the law  to allow persecution of someone???

    That wasn't "retroactively," scooter, and the change in the law did not violate anyone's civil rights, scooter. Ergo, there is no liability, scooter. You lose again.




    E. Jean Carroll, of course, was never a government official, and nothing she >> did violated any of Trump's civil rights.

    And just like that

    A scooterism! That one has been in the list for years, scooter:

    scooterisms:

    "Actually..." [empty padding]
    "Further..." [empty padding]
    "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
    "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately before fleeing]
    "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
    "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless] "Heck..." [empty padding]
    "Well..." [empty padding]
    "After all..." [empty padding]
    "In fact..." [empty padding]
    "Indeed..." [empty padding; this is one of "pothole's" favorites, too]
    "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to acknowledgment]
    "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
    "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man] "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
    — a straw man]
    "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
    Constitution anyway]
    "insure" [he means "ensure"; they are *not* synonyms]
    "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
    "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
    "and" [he means "an"]
    "an" [he means "and"]
    "where" [he means "were"]
    "were" [he means "where"]
    "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word] "publically" [he means "publicly"; "publically" is not a word]


    Rudy is off into the weeds attacking an argument I never made.

    No, scooter, I was not attacking an argument you never made. I was pointing out that you simply do not understand what that section of the U.S. code is saying. No government official in New York violated any of the rapist Trump's civil rights in amending their law, scooter.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lee on Mon Jun 23 09:10:29 2025
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    "Lee" <cleetius@gmail.corn> wrote in message news:3hi5Q.1370923$6%s6.818136@fx12.iad...
    On 6/20/2025 6:38 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:KSW4Q.316965$wdi3.182725@fx45.iad...
    On 6/19/2025 7:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse" <lets.go.brandon@salon.com>
    wrote in message
    news:20250619.025028.aeae2713@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
    frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and >>>>>>>>>>> said
    they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict. >>>>>>>>>>>
    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which >>>>>>>>>>> Trump
    lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant >>>>>>>>>>> context in
    relation to Carrollââ,¬â"¢s claims. The tape functioned as >>>>>>>>>>> "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges >>>>>>>>>>> said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future >>>>>>>>>>> plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior >>>>>>>>>>> conduct
    in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime
    thereafter
    made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the >>>>>>>>>> narrow
    LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury
    correctly
    found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held >>>>>>>> today,
    the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex
    post
    facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the >>>>>> time
    the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for
    selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-
    survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    Nothing says they couldn't try, but keep in mind that 42USC1983 would
    allow you to directly sue the individuals responsible for infringements >>>> upon your rights and they would be personally liable for any damages
    awarded from such a suit.

    Whenever the law-illiterate scooter starts blabbering about sections of
    the United States code, what follows is always bullshit.

    Keep in mind the claim here --- "always bullshit"

    Yes, scooter. Whenever you start blabbering about either the Constitution
    or statutory law, what follows is always bullshit — 100% of the time.

    Translation: Scout nails me with the facts at every turn, and I have no way
    to counter it but to lie about it even more.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lee@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 23 07:21:30 2025
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    On 6/23/2025 6:10 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Lee" <cleetius@gmail.corn> wrote in message news:3hi5Q.1370923$6%s6.818136@fx12.iad...
    On 6/20/2025 6:38 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:KSW4Q.316965$wdi3.182725@fx45.iad...
    On 6/19/2025 7:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse" <lets.go.brandon@salon.com> wrote in
    message news:20250619.025028.aeae2713@msgid.frell.theremailer.net... >>>>>> scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is >>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court dissented and said
    they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the verdict. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant context in
    relation to Carrollââ,¬â"¢s claims. The tape functioned as "propensity
    evidence," which is typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a future >>>>>>>>>>>> plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of prior conduct
    in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime thereafter >>>>>>>>>>>> made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the narrow >>>>>>>>>>> LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope.

    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury correctly
    found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the trial were held today,
    the jury would find that Trump raped her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be ex post >>>>>>> facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that didn't exist at the time
    the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows for >>>>>> selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice-assault-
    survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    Nothing says they couldn't try, but keep in mind that 42USC1983 would allow
    you to directly sue the individuals responsible for infringements upon your
    rights and they would be personally liable for any damages awarded from >>>>> such a suit.

    Whenever the law-illiterate scooter starts blabbering about sections of the
    United States code, what follows is always bullshit.

    Keep in mind the claim here --- "always bullshit"

    Yes, scooter. Whenever you start blabbering about either the Constitution or >> statutory law, what follows is always bullshit — 100% of the time.

    Translation:

    A scooterism — it has been on the list for years.

    scooterisms:

    "Actually..." [empty padding]
    "Further..." [empty padding]
    "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
    "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately before fleeing]
    "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
    "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless] "Heck..." [empty padding]
    "Well..." [empty padding]
    "After all..." [empty padding]
    "In fact..." [empty padding]
    "Indeed..." [empty padding; this is one of "pothole's" favorites, too]
    "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to acknowledgment]
    "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
    "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man] "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
    — a straw man]
    "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
    Constitution anyway]
    "insure" [he means "ensure"; they are *not* synonyms]
    "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
    "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
    "and" [he means "an"]
    "an" [he means "and"]
    "where" [he means "were"]
    "were" [he means "where"]
    "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word] "publically" [he means "publicly"; "publically" is not a word]

    He does these *all the fucking time*

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From T. Howard Pines, Jr.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 08:04:48 2025
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    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/23/2025 10:33 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 23 Jun 2025, Lee posted some
    news:Kpd6Q.1408657$qmJf.83268@fx16.iad:

    On 6/23/2025 6:10 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Lee" <cleetius@gmail.corn> wrote in message
    news:3hi5Q.1370923$6%s6.818136@fx12.iad...
    On 6/20/2025 6:38 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:



    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:KSW4Q.316965$wdi3.182725@fx45.iad...
    On 6/19/2025 7:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:



    "Jan 6 Legitimate Political Discourse"
    <lets.go.brandon@salon.com> wrote in message
    news:20250619.025028.aeae2713@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who >>>>>>>> is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:




    "Dutch" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:20k4Q.250079$FMH4.86108@fx37.iad...
    On 6/15/2025 12:58 PM, Dutch wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 6:12 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 10:51:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 2025-06-14 06:23, Dutch wrote:
    Two Trump-appointed judges on the appellate court
    dissented and said they
    would have granted Trump's request and reconsidered the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> verdict.

    The pair of judges said the Access Hollywood tape, in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which Trump lewdly
    spoke about making passes at women, did not offer relevant >>>>>>>>>>>>>> context in relation to Carrollââ,¬â"¢s claims. The
    tape functioned as "propensity evidence," which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically inadmissible in court, the judges said.

    "If the panel opinion remains a precedent of our court, a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> future plaintiff
    or the government will be able to introduce evidence of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prior conduct in
    which a defendant went on a mundane outing and sometime >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thereafter made a
    sexual advance," they wrote in their dissent.

    The jury found that Trump's sexual assault did not meet the >>>>>>>>>>>>> narrow LEGAL
    definition of "rape" in New York State.

    It's supposed to have a narrow legal definition you dope. >>>>>>>>>>>
    The definition has been broadened in New York since the jury >>>>>>>>>>> correctly found that Trump sexually abused Carroll. If the >>>>>>>>>>> trial were held today, the jury would find that Trump raped >>>>>>>>>>> her.

    actually, they wouldn't since such changes in the law would be >>>>>>>>> ex post facto.. and you can't be punished under laws that
    didn't exist at the time the supposed crime occurred.

    Isn't New York in the business of enacting laws to open windows >>>>>>>> for selective retroactive indictments?

    https://19thnews.org/2023/05/e-jean-carroll-trump-new-law-justice >>>>>>>> -assault- survivors/

    https://www.safehorizon.org/adult-survivors-act

    Nothing says they couldn't try, but keep in mind that 42USC1983
    would allow you to directly sue the individuals responsible for
    infringements upon your rights and they would be personally
    liable for any damages awarded from such a suit.

    Whenever the law-illiterate scooter starts blabbering about
    sections of the United States code, what follows is always
    bullshit.

    Keep in mind the claim here --- "always bullshit"

    Yes, scooter. Whenever you start blabbering about either the
    Constitution or statutory law, what follows is always bullshit — >>>> 100% of the time.

    Translation:

    A scooterism

    "A common whore like my mommy cannot be raped"

    Wow, Blowjob! That was harsh.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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