• Re: "No Kings" protests in Minnesota canceled as authorities search for

    From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Bill Flatt on Sun Jun 15 07:32:33 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot and
    killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack at their
    home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife were wounded in
    a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz described as "targeted
    political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st-paul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the Minnesota State
    Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No Kings" protest against the
    Trump administration, despite authorities urging people to stay home in the
    wake of the shock killing of Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her
    husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in coincide
    with the military parade being held by President Donald Trump in Washington
    D.C.

    --
    All the existing 2.0.x kernels are to buggy for 2.1.x to be the
    main goal.
    -- Alan Cox

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Jun 15 15:53:05 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot
    and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack
    at their home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife
    were wounded in a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz described
    as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st-p
    aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the Minnesota
    State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No Kings"
    protest against the Trump administration, despite authorities
    urging people to stay home in the wake of the shock killing of
    Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in
    coincide with the military parade being held by President Donald
    Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures Say A
    LOT

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds? origin=hfspl

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  • From Doctor Fill@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Sun Jun 15 10:51:06 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 6/15/2025 10:32 AM, Skeeter OG wrote:
    In article <102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot
    and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack
    at their home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife
    were wounded in a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz described
    as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st-p >>>> aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the Minnesota
    State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No Kings"
    protest against the Trump administration, despite authorities
    urging people to stay home in the wake of the shock killing of
    Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in
    coincide with the military parade being held by President Donald
    Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures Say A
    LOT

    You mean the "let's throw shit at the police" videos?

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds?
    origin=hfspl



    Someone shot an the anti-Trump protester in Salt Lake City.

    https://www.rt.com/news/619340-shooting-anti-trump-rally/

    One person was critically injured after a gunman opened fire during a
    protest march against the policies of US President Donald Trump in Salt
    Lake City, Utah, on Saturday evening. Police said a person of interest
    has been detained at the scene.

    According to the Salt Lake City Tribune, the incident occurred on State
    Street, directly outside the Liberty Sky apartment building. Videos from
    the event show protesters running in panic after gunshots were fired.

    A victim has been hospitalized with life-threatening injuries, according
    to police.

    “We have a person of interest in custody,†the Salt Lake City Police Department said in a statement. Photos and videos circulating on social
    media appear to show officers pinning down a man dressed in black and handcuffing him.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.



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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 10:32:09 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot
    and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack
    at their home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife
    were wounded in a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz described
    as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st-p
    aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the Minnesota
    State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No Kings"
    protest against the Trump administration, despite authorities
    urging people to stay home in the wake of the shock killing of
    Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in
    coincide with the military parade being held by President Donald
    Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures Say A
    LOT

    You mean the "let's throw shit at the police" videos?

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds? origin=hfspl

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  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun Jun 15 14:26:23 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Baxter wrote:
    These "No Kings" Crowd


    The Chimp Pack denotes a random collection of Negroids that usually
    assembles for an immediate purpose — such as Gang Rape, Looting, Intimidation, or 10 against 1 attacks on unsuspecting Humans. Negroes
    are solely absorbed in their own selfish interests, but will band
    together as a temporary measure against outsiders. Once the immediate
    threat has passed, the Chimp Pack will disintegrate once again into a collection of individual Negroes that will try to rob, rape, or kill
    each other.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 19:47:05 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Rudy Canoza <rudy.can@jllkone.not> wrote in news:18494aa065c59b98$109494 $7034$66dd6c6a@news.thecubenet.com:

    Baxter wrote:
    These "No Kings" Crowd


    The Chimp Pack denotes a random collection of Negroids that usually assembles for an immediate purpose — such as Gang Rape, Looting, Intimidation, or 10 against 1 attacks on unsuspecting Humans. Negroes
    are solely absorbed in their own selfish interests, but will band
    together as a temporary measure against outsiders. Once the immediate
    threat has passed, the Chimp Pack will disintegrate once again into a collection of individual Negroes that will try to rob, rape, or kill
    each other.


    Strange, most people aren't aware that tRump's MAGAts are negroes.

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  • From Hank@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 15 20:39:39 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 15 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot
    and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack
    at their home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife
    were wounded in a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz described
    as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st-p
    aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the Minnesota
    State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No Kings"
    protest against the Trump administration, despite authorities
    urging people to stay home in the wake of the shock killing of
    Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in
    coincide with the military parade being held by President Donald
    Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures Say A
    LOT

    Scared you, didn't it? Discovering there are that many mentally ill
    adult infants in the US.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds? origin=hfspl


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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Sun Jun 15 17:29:30 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Rudy Canoza wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Baxter wrote:
    These "No Kings" Crowd

    The Chimp Pack ...

    <snip>

    Oh lookee here, we have a Usenet Robert Ardrey.

    --
    Marriage always demands the greatest understanding of the art of
    insincerity possible between two human beings.
    -- Vicki Baum

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Hank on Sun Jun 15 21:51:57 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Hank <badenoch@ssac.ctr> wrote in news:fc2c112759.1750019971@byxor.hv:

    On 15 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot
    and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack
    at their home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife
    were wounded in a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz
    described as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st
    -p aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the
    Minnesota State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No
    Kings" protest against the Trump administration, despite
    authorities urging people to stay home in the wake of the shock
    killing of Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in
    coincide with the military parade being held by President Donald
    Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures
    Say A LOT

    Scared you, didn't it? Discovering there are that many mentally ill
    adult infants in the US.

    Actually, those were paid attendees at tRump's parade - but Muskrat ran
    out of money.



    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds
    ? origin=hfspl




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  • From Jameson@21:1/5 to Chris on Mon Jun 16 00:35:46 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    I(n <102mb0h$sks3$1@dont-email.me> Chris said:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot and
    killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack at their
    home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife were wounded in
    a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz described as "targeted
    political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st-paul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the Minnesota State

    Democrats volunteering their faces for the "Enemies of the Nation"
    facial recognition database.

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  • From Art Chan@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 16 01:50:07 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In <102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me> Baxter wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot
    and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack
    at their home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife
    were wounded in a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz described
    as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st-p
    aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the Minnesota
    State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No Kings"
    protest against the Trump administration, despite authorities
    urging people to stay home in the wake of the shock killing of
    Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in
    coincide with the military parade being held by President Donald
    Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures Say A
    LOT

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds? origin=hfspl

    Silly infantile label for a socialist mob gathering.

    What the pictures say is that Trump has manipulated Democrats into a
    corner, where they have publicly exposed themselves for the America hating disloyal lot they are.

    There will be some jobless people by the end of next week thanks to
    social media.

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  • From Doctor Fill@21:1/5 to Art Chan on Sun Jun 15 18:29:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 6/15/2025 5:50 PM, Art Chan wrote:
    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures Say A
    LOT

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds?
    origin=hfspl
    Silly infantile label for a socialist mob gathering.

    What the pictures say is that Trump has manipulated Democrats into a
    corner, where they have publicly exposed themselves for the America hating disloyal lot they are.

    Exactly.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.



    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Doctor Fill on Mon Jun 16 00:36:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Doctor Fill <DF@cocks.net> wrote in news:102nogt$179vq$1@dont-email.me:

    On 6/15/2025 5:50 PM, Art Chan wrote:
    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures
    Say A LOT

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowd
    s? origin=hfspl
    Silly infantile label for a socialist mob gathering.

    What the pictures say is that Trump has manipulated Democrats into a
    corner, where they have publicly exposed themselves for the America
    hating disloyal lot they are.

    Exactly.


    I wonder how much longer Miller will keep his job - Miller froths to raid
    farms and workplaces, and tRump says STOP!

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Art Chan on Mon Jun 16 00:37:55 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Art Chan <ac@alt.net> wrote in news:20250616.015007.90330a44@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:


    There will be some jobless people by the end of next week thanks to
    social media.

    Yeah, fire all those NO KINGS people and completely shut down the country.

    I dare you.

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  • From Doctor Fill@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun Jun 15 19:56:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 6/15/2025 6:37 PM, Baxter wrote:
    Art Chan <ac@alt.net> wrote in news:20250616.015007.90330a44@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:


    There will be some jobless people by the end of next week thanks to
    social media.

    Yeah, fire all those NO KINGS people and completely shut down the country.

    I dare you.

    Just start some disinformation in the Black "community" that the No More
    Kings people are saying no more Rev. Dr. Martin Luther Kings because
    they're racist bigots who hate Blacks.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.



    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 06:32:43 2025
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    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <102n7vp$13mml$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Rudy Canoza <rudy.can@jllkone.not> wrote in news:18494aa065c59b98$109494 $7034$66dd6c6a@news.thecubenet.com:

    Baxter wrote:
    These "No Kings" Crowd


    The Chimp Pack denotes a random collection of Negroids that usually assembles for an immediate purpose � such as Gang Rape, Looting, Intimidation, or 10 against 1 attacks on unsuspecting Humans. Negroes
    are solely absorbed in their own selfish interests, but will band
    together as a temporary measure against outsiders. Once the immediate threat has passed, the Chimp Pack will disintegrate once again into a collection of individual Negroes that will try to rob, rape, or kill
    each other.


    Strange, most people aren't aware that tRump's MAGAts are negroes.

    More racism from Baxter.

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 06:34:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <102nf9s$159j0$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Hank <badenoch@ssac.ctr> wrote in news:fc2c112759.1750019971@byxor.hv:

    On 15 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer shot
    and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a brazen attack >>>>> at their home early Saturday, and a second lawmaker and his wife
    were wounded in a separate shooting in what Gov. Tim Walz
    described as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in-st >>>> -p aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the
    Minnesota State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide "No
    Kings" protest against the Trump administration, despite
    authorities urging people to stay home in the wake of the shock
    killing of Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota in
    coincide with the military parade being held by President Donald
    Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures
    Say A LOT

    Scared you, didn't it? Discovering there are that many mentally ill
    adult infants in the US.

    Actually, those were paid attendees at tRump's parade - but Muskrat ran
    out of money.

    Can you prove that? I didn't think so. But many of your no
    kings asswipes were paid.



    https://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/no-kings-day-vs-military-parade-crowds
    ? origin=hfspl




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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 06:35:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <102np13$17b3b$5@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Art Chan <ac@alt.net> wrote in news:20250616.015007.90330a44@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:


    There will be some jobless people by the end of next week thanks to
    social media.

    Yeah, fire all those NO KINGS people and completely shut down the country.

    I dare you.

    Whatever it takes.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Mon Jun 16 15:13:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.42b9bd248b9ebf1298a36f@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <102nf9s$159j0$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Hank <badenoch@ssac.ctr> wrote in
    news:fc2c112759.1750019971@byxor.hv:

    On 15 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
    news:102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer
    shot and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a
    brazen attack at their home early Saturday, and a second
    lawmaker and his wife were wounded in a separate shooting in
    what Gov. Tim Walz described as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in
    -st -p aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the
    Minnesota State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide
    "No Kings" protest against the Trump administration, despite
    authorities urging people to stay home in the wake of the
    shock killing of Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her
    husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota
    in coincide with the military parade being held by President
    Donald Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures
    Say A LOT

    Scared you, didn't it? Discovering there are that many mentally
    ill adult infants in the US.

    Actually, those were paid attendees at tRump's parade - but Muskrat
    ran out of money.

    Can you prove that? I didn't think so.

    why should I have to prove that? YOU never, ever prove any of your
    claims.

    But many of your no
    kings asswipes were paid.

    Right here, case in point.

    But then it's easy to disprove your claim here, as there were 20K at most
    for tRump's folly, and 12M for NO KINGS.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jun 16 12:25:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:102pcb5$1n069$1@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.42b9bd248b9ebf1298a36f@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <102nf9s$159j0$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Hank <badenoch@ssac.ctr> wrote in
    news:fc2c112759.1750019971@byxor.hv:

    On 15 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
    news:102mq91$10a8r$4@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:3ait4ktbvhnl8b3f3f1bhls6ujau94k4l4@4ax.com:

    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 07:32:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Bill Flatt wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    BROOKLYN PARK, Minn. (AP) - A man posing as a police officer
    shot and killed a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in a
    brazen attack at their home early Saturday, and a second
    lawmaker and his wife were wounded in a separate shooting in
    what Gov. Tim Walz described as "targeted political violence."

    <snip>

    The people held the "No Kings" protest anyway.

    <https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/no-kings-protest-in
    -st -p aul-draws-huge-crowd-despite-plea-to-stay-away>

    Tens of thousands of protesters congregated outside the
    Minnesota State Capitol Saturday as part of the nationwide
    "No Kings" protest against the Trump administration, despite
    authorities urging people to stay home in the wake of the
    shock killing of Minnesota Rep. Melissa Hortman and her
    husband.

    As many as 42 protests were due to be held across Minnesota
    in coincide with the military parade being held by President
    Donald Trump in Washington D.C.

    There were tens of thousands in LA, millions across the country.


    ==========
    These "No Kings" Crowd Pictures Vs. Military Parade Crowd Pictures
    Say A LOT

    Scared you, didn't it? Discovering there are that many mentally
    ill adult infants in the US.

    Actually, those were paid attendees at tRump's parade - but Muskrat
    ran out of money.

    Can you prove that? I didn't think so.

    why should I have to prove that?

    Well for one thing to set the standard in which you show people how they
    should support their claims...

    YOU never, ever prove any of your
    claims.

    Instead of acting like the people who you are complaining about as not supporting their claims.

    this is a perfect chance for you to show him and the rest of us exactly how
    it should be done.

    The only question is whether you can back up your claim and can you do so according to your own standards.

    So here's your chance to show up all of us by demonstrating exactly how you think to needs to be done.

    The only question is whether you can do so..... or will you invent excuses because you can't hold yourself to your own standard thus exposing yourself
    as a hypocrite

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jun 16 20:21:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:102ph10$1ob3m$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:102pcb5$1n069$1@dont-email.me...

    why should I have to prove that?

    Well for one thing to set the standard in which you show people how
    they should support their claims...

    YOU never, ever prove any of your
    claims.

    Instead of acting like the people who you are complaining about as not supporting their claims.

    this is a perfect chance for you to show him and the rest of us
    exactly how it should be done.

    The only question is whether you can back up your claim and can you do
    so according to your own standards.

    So here's your chance to show up all of us by demonstrating exactly
    how you think to needs to be done.

    The only question is whether you can do so..... or will you invent
    excuses because you can't hold yourself to your own standard thus
    exposing yourself as a hypocrite

    So, you got stringent rules for liberals/Dems that you and none of your conservaturds never, ever follow yourselves.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Jun 17 07:47:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:102pucn$1rl10$4@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:102ph10$1ob3m$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:102pcb5$1n069$1@dont-email.me...

    why should I have to prove that?

    Well for one thing to set the standard in which you show people how
    they should support their claims...

    YOU never, ever prove any of your
    claims.

    Instead of acting like the people who you are complaining about as not
    supporting their claims.

    this is a perfect chance for you to show him and the rest of us
    exactly how it should be done.

    The only question is whether you can back up your claim and can you do
    so according to your own standards.

    So here's your chance to show up all of us by demonstrating exactly
    how you think to needs to be done.

    The only question is whether you can do so..... or will you invent
    excuses because you can't hold yourself to your own standard thus
    exposing yourself as a hypocrite

    So, you got stringent rules for liberals/Dems that you and none of your conservaturds never, ever follow yourselves.

    Actually, I have no stringent rules for liberals/Dems..

    Rather I'm pointing out that you don't follow your OWN standards.

    IOW, You can't prove your claims, You can't support your claims.
    Your only argument seems to be "they do it too".
    As if what 'they' do governs how you follow your own standards of conduct

    So, if you wont show us how it's done, and you wont do what you demand of others..,..

    I will continue as I have and if the proofs seem inadequate to you, they
    still exceed
    the standards of practice you hold yourself too.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jun 17 15:21:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:3sp25khksf4bdrj0vuseq9vnvtuqodr89j@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:13:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    But then it's easy to disprove your claim here, as there were 20K at
    most for tRump's folly, and 12M for NO KINGS.

    Baxter, you like just as much and as badly as the right.

    Even the organizers' maximum estimates didn't exceed 5M and most
    observers put it between 2M and 4M.

    Alt National Park Service says 12 million. There were protestors in every
    city and town - even in tiny towns, that didn't get counted by organizers.

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jun 17 21:06:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 17/6/25 21:00, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:57:37 -0500, Praetor Mandrake wrote:

    It's not that we don't follow our standards, it's that the circumstances
    don't arise where we are defending equal grounds to you. Certainly if
    the situation called for it, we would follow the standard but since it
    is not applicable we are neither following nor not following the standard.

    Got anymore of those 'shrooms?


    Our standard standard flying high.

    Station.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Wed Jun 18 05:33:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Siri Cruz wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 17/6/25 21:00, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:57:37 -0500, Praetor Mandrake wrote:

    It's not that we don't follow our standards, it's that the circumstances >>> don't arise where we are defending equal grounds to you. Certainly if
    the situation called for it, we would follow the standard but since it
    is not applicable we are neither following nor not following the standard. >>
    Got anymore of those 'shrooms?

    Our standard standard flying high.

    Station.

    SOUND: The Click! TV changing channels, followed by white noise.

    SOUND: Click! Organ music.

    PREACHER: ...Anointed with oil on troubled waters? Oh,
    Heavenly Grid, help us bear up thy Standard, our Chevron
    flashing bright across the Gulf of Compromise, standing Humble
    on the Rich Field of Mobile American Thinking? Here in this
    Shell we call Life...

    SOUND: Click!

    --
    "Give me enough medals, and I'll win any war."
    -- Napoleon

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jun 18 05:35:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:58:12 -0500, Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:

    Baxter wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:3sp25khksf4bdrj0vuseq9vnvtuqodr89j@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:13:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    But then it's easy to disprove your claim here, as there were 20K at >>>>> most for tRump's folly, and 12M for NO KINGS.

    Baxter, you like just as much and as badly as the right.

    Even the organizers' maximum estimates didn't exceed 5M and most
    observers put it between 2M and 4M.

    Alt National Park Service says 12 million. There were protestors in every >>> city and town - even in tiny towns, that didn't get counted by organizers. >>>
    Just call it 8 billion then, because all of us had some sentiment in our >>hearts.

    Baxter and c186282 are fraternal twins.

    One is a radical leftist who believes and parrots anything and
    everything his masters tell him to and the other is a radical rightist
    who believes and parrots anything and everything his masters tell him
    to.

    There are no "masters".

    --
    If you lose a son you can always get another, but there's only one
    Maltese Falcon.
    -- Sidney Greenstreet, "The Maltese Falcon"

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Wed Jun 18 07:42:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Praetor Mandrake" <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mbds51FsdrqU3@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:102pucn$1rl10$4@dont-email.me...
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:102ph10$1ob3m$1@dont-email.me:



    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:102pcb5$1n069$1@dont-email.me...

    why should I have to prove that?

    Well for one thing to set the standard in which you show people how
    they should support their claims...

    YOU never, ever prove any of your
    claims.

    Instead of acting like the people who you are complaining about as not >>>> supporting their claims.

    this is a perfect chance for you to show him and the rest of us
    exactly how it should be done.

    The only question is whether you can back up your claim and can you do >>>> so according to your own standards.

    So here's your chance to show up all of us by demonstrating exactly
    how you think to needs to be done.

    The only question is whether you can do so..... or will you invent
    excuses because you can't hold yourself to your own standard thus
    exposing yourself as a hypocrite

    So, you got stringent rules for liberals/Dems that you and none of your
    conservaturds never, ever follow yourselves.

    Actually, I have no stringent rules for liberals/Dems..

    Rather I'm pointing out that you don't follow your OWN standards.

    It's not that we don't follow our standards

    It's just that you don't have any standards?

    it's that the circumstances don't arise where we are defending equal
    grounds to you

    Ah.. the old, I am following the rules, except all the times I'm not,
    excuse.

    If you can't hold yourself to your own standards then what's the point of having standards?

    You just admitted you don't follow such standards.. standards which you then assert everyone else has to follow... just not you.

    Certainly if the situation called for it, we would follow the standard
    but since it is not applicable we are neither following nor not following
    the standard.

    What a lame ass excuse for ignoring your own standards which you demand
    others must consistently follow.

    Nothing like watching a liberal speak out of both sides of his face at the
    same time, while claiming to not be doing so.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jun 18 07:42:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gde45kdkrvcmb6d2f6h01aqngvilhnluda@4ax.com...
    On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 13:57:37 -0500, Praetor Mandrake wrote:

    It's not that we don't follow our standards, it's that the circumstances >>don't arise where we are defending equal grounds to you. Certainly if
    the situation called for it, we would follow the standard but since it
    is not applicable we are neither following nor not following the standard.

    Got anymore of those 'shrooms?

    He's certainly on something that's making him delusional..

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jun 18 15:20:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:3he45k51i8nqsq5rlv6je8hj1bceoe7a7d@4ax.com:

    On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 15:21:07 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:3sp25khksf4bdrj0vuseq9vnvtuqodr89j@4ax.com:

    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:13:42 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    But then it's easy to disprove your claim here, as there were 20K at >>>>most for tRump's folly, and 12M for NO KINGS.

    Baxter, you like just as much and as badly as the right.

    Even the organizers' maximum estimates didn't exceed 5M and most
    observers put it between 2M and 4M.

    Alt National Park Service says 12 million. There were protestors in
    every city and town - even in tiny towns, that didn't get counted by >>organizers.

    Google Alt National Park Service

    "The "Alt National Park Service" is a term used to describe a group of individuals and online communities that act as a form of resistance or advocacy for the National Park Service (NPS), particularly during
    periods of perceived threat or policy uncertainty. It is not an
    official branch of the US government. This group, which includes the
    social media accounts @AltUSNPS on various platforms, emerged in 2017 following actions by the Trump administration regarding the NPS's
    social media presence according to USA Today. "

    Sorry, I don't credit accuracy to some semi anonymous facebook
    account.


    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of
    official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500. Does
    that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    And then lets look closer to home in Oregon - you see pictures of 50K in Portland's Waterfront park, but you don't see the other protests in the Portland Metro - Clackamas, Hillsboro, Beaverton, Vancouver, and likely
    Oregon City, Grasham and many others. Glossed over are events up and down
    the Oregon Coast, medium cities like Woodburn, Salem, Eugene,
    Albany/Corvallis, Bend, and many other. Same sort of thing throughout the nation. There was even a protest at a wide spot in the road in Alaska.

    No, the offical estimates severely undercount the reality.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jun 19 02:38:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of
    official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500.
    Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY protest
    - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ... yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just like tRump's
    parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Jun 18 20:58:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 18/6/25 19:38, Baxter wrote:
    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of
    official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500.
    Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY protest
    - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ... yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just like tRump's
    parade drew 250K (according to tRump).


    That is not important enough to fight over. The revealing
    question is how do Republicans in Congress feel about reelection
    chances?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 07:11:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <102vt7e$3knhp$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500.
    Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY protest
    - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ... yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just like tRump's
    parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Question: Who the fuck cares?

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jun 19 15:28:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:2bp75k163e595o7u912q0t0u4r9gfr68bf@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 02:38:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>>>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500. >>>>Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY
    protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ...
    yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just
    like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Meanwhile Bozeman, Montana had a few hundred.

    Using only big city turnouts as the "average attendance" of all the
    events is ...

    well, it's stupid.


    Accepting the organizers counts is also stupid. They put NY at 200K,
    while other creditable accounts put it at closer to 500K. Also the
    number of events, 2000, doesn't reflect reality - there were a LOT of unofficial, grassroots events.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jun 19 21:33:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:2bp75k163e595o7u912q0t0u4r9gfr68bf@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 02:38:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>>>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500. >>>>Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY
    protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ...
    yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just
    like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Meanwhile Bozeman, Montana had a few hundred.

    Using only big city turnouts as the "average attendance" of all the
    events is ...

    well, it's stupid.


    By all means, underreport the turnout. 12M is too close to that magic
    3.5% regime change number, and might piss off his magesty.
    Underreporting helps maintain the status quo and maybe people will go
    away and let the destruction of democracy continue.

    Take a gander at these deep red smaller cities and tell me your numbers
    are real.
    ==========
    People Are Shocked By These Photos Showing How Thousands Showed Up To
    These Deep-Red States' "No Kings" Protests

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-shocked-photos-showing-thousands- 234035121.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8 &guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACbz8dCNUG7xgQ-PmleWe__o31HcWYCvCFgdoIyESJv-hT-- jQpmCW0mRWPX9iyZ2DqnLclf5RvFeiM_QoOL2AJ6imvbmvVZhARj792r- dlfQiB5QAUgmuvrgKV0r-7GS22CtWx4dxvU5ezutxOFTM8BcjDWlyNcSRnVMHPlrRit

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From mean dad@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 00:15:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 18 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:102vt7e$3knhp$1@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500.
    Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY
    protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ...
    yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just
    like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Democrat expert calculations = guestimates, COVID death projections,
    global warming, acid rain, overwhelming numbers of homosexuals and transgenders, no illegal aliens.

    If we believed their numbers, homosexuals would be anally birthing
    triplets and transgenders would be commanding the military.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to dad on Fri Jun 20 03:27:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    mean dad <meandad@trump.usa> wrote in news:512212d7bf.1750378531
    @mswmh.rr:

    On 18 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:102vt7e$3knhp$1@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>>>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500. >>>>Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY
    protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ...
    yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just
    like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Democrat expert calculations = guestimates, COVID death projections,
    global warming, acid rain, overwhelming numbers of homosexuals and transgenders, no illegal aliens.

    If we believed their numbers, homosexuals would be anally birthing
    triplets and transgenders would be commanding the military.

    Conservaturd "math" has no connection with reality.

    One tRumpster get's talked mean to, it's 9/11 again. 100 school kids get slaughtered, no big deal.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 07:51:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <1032kff$djcm$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    mean dad <meandad@trump.usa> wrote in news:512212d7bf.1750378531
    @mswmh.rr:

    On 18 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:102vt7e$3knhp$1@dont-email.me:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>>>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500. >>>>Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY
    protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ...
    yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just
    like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Democrat expert calculations = guestimates, COVID death projections,
    global warming, acid rain, overwhelming numbers of homosexuals and transgenders, no illegal aliens.

    If we believed their numbers, homosexuals would be anally birthing
    triplets and transgenders would be commanding the military.

    Conservaturd "math" has no connection with reality.

    One tRumpster get's talked mean to, it's 9/11 again. 100 school kids get slaughtered, no big deal.

    You really are as stupid as you act.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 07:34:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 07:11:01 -0600, Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com>
    wrote:

    In article <102vt7e$3knhp$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of
    official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500.
    Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY protest >> - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ... yeah, sure it >> takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just like tRump's
    parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Question: Who the fuck cares?

    He "saw" a calculation by an "expert" but couldn't show us who or
    where.

    All you need to know about him.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com on Fri Jun 20 07:35:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 15:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >news:2bp75k163e595o7u912q0t0u4r9gfr68bf@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 02:38:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>>>>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500. >>>>>Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY >>>protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ...
    yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just >>>like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Meanwhile Bozeman, Montana had a few hundred.

    Using only big city turnouts as the "average attendance" of all the
    events is ...

    well, it's stupid.


    Accepting the organizers counts is also stupid. They put NY at 200K,
    while other creditable accounts put it at closer to 500K. Also the
    number of events, 2000, doesn't reflect reality - there were a LOT of >unofficial, grassroots events.

    What "creditable accounts"?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jon Brady@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 20:57:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 20 Jun 2025, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> posted some news:kpha5k598u5sd7fgkcv7jrv8513uauqj1e@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 07:11:01 -0600, Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com>
    wrote:

    In article <102vt7e$3knhp$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of
    official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of
    2,500. Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the
    events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY
    protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ...
    yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to --
    just like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Question: Who the fuck cares?

    He "saw" a calculation by an "expert" but couldn't show us who or
    where.

    All you need to know about him.

    "There are no kings in the UA"

    Where exactly is that?

    "Not today Gavin"
    "Men can have babies!"
    "Gay is a right"
    "Boys are girls"
    "The only King is God"
    "Fuck ICE"
    "Trump banned my abortions!"

    These were some of the signs the protesters were carrying.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jon Brady@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 20 21:01:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 20 Jun 2025, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> posted some news:krha5ktf48at3idv3n7qpd7gc82se5rgo3@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 15:28:38 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:2bp75k163e595o7u912q0t0u4r9gfr68bf@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 02:38:39 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
    <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>news:btt55kljr4bhf0g7fb19mt6h6e298mp7hm@4ax.com:

    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:20:30 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    Let's take the "official" high number, 5M, divide by the number of >>>>>>official events 2,000 - That would give an average turnout of 2,500. >>>>>>Does that look reasonable when you look at pictures of the events?

    That depends. Have you seen pictures of every event?


    Don't need EVERY event. Saw an calculation by an expert on the NY >>>>protest - near 500K on NY alone. Then all the other big cities ... >>>>yeah, sure it takes a genius to figure out we're being lied to -- just >>>>like tRump's parade drew 250K (according to tRump).

    Meanwhile Bozeman, Montana had a few hundred.

    Using only big city turnouts as the "average attendance" of all the
    events is ...

    well, it's stupid.


    Accepting the organizers counts is also stupid. They put NY at 200K,
    while other creditable accounts put it at closer to 500K. Also the
    number of events, 2000, doesn't reflect reality - there were a LOT of >>unofficial, grassroots events.

    What "creditable accounts"?

    Most of the media estimates were complete horse manure, or just plain
    outright lies.

    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)

    How wide is 300 North Los Angeles Street?
    Approximately 80 feet not including sidwalks.

    Calculate the square footage, length x width.

    Put a yard stick on the floor and see how much actual square footage you
    take up, you might be surprised. Assume the following includes a foot of spacing on all sides, which is not much. It's ahole to belly button, no
    bump room in a crowd. It's tight enough to get punched for touching
    someone who doesn't like it.

    Each sub takes up a square yard, 3x3 = 9 sq ft.
    If they have signs or flags, make it 4x3 = 12 sq ft.

    300 x 80 = 24000 sq ft / 9 = 2,666 subs
    500 x 80 = 40000 sq ft / 9 = 4,444 subs
    600 x 80 = 48000 sq ft / 9 = 5,333 subs
    700 x 80 = 56000 sq ft / 9 = 6,222 subs

    300 x 80 = 24000 sq ft / 12 = 2,000 subs
    500 x 80 = 40000 sq ft / 12 = 3,333 subs
    600 x 80 = 48000 sq ft / 12 = 4,000 subs
    700 x 80 = 56000 sq ft / 12 = 4,666 subs

    Multiply by blocks and the totals still won't approach the estimates
    provided by the media. Far from it in fact.

    One mile calculations.

    5280 x 80 = 422,400 sq ft / 9 = 46,933 subs
    5280 x 80 = 422,400 sq ft / 12 = 35,200 subs

    Mile divided by blocks.

    5280 / 300 = 17 blks
    5280 / 500 = 10 blks
    5280 / 600 = 8 blks
    5280 / 700 = 7 blks

    Pictures can lie to low information suckers and the media knows it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Jon Brady on Fri Jun 20 15:01:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Jon Brady on Fri Jun 20 17:31:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it would
    have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the situation and
    then lied about it.

    --
    Oh, by the way, which one's Pink?
    -- Pink Floyd

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Garrison Hilliard@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 21 04:27:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math
    sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Garrison Hilliard on Sat Jun 21 00:35:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math
    sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to OFeem1987@teleworm.us on Sat Jun 21 08:57:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:31:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it would
    have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the situation and
    then lied about it.

    Likely more.
    Next question?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 21 09:03:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math
    sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jun 21 09:55:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 21/6/25 5:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:31:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it would
    have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the situation and
    then lied about it.

    Likely more.
    Next question?


    How long have you been a sociology expert?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Jun 21 10:02:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 21/6/25 6:03, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math
    sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.


    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-party-doubling-town-hall-meetings-republican-held/story?id=120644780>

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-999. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 4.0 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 09:01:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:02:19 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 21/6/25 6:03, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math
    sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are. >>>>>>
    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.


    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-party-doubling-town-hall-meetings-republican-held/story?id=120644780>

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

    So now you admit that the dems manufacture the outrage at these
    townhalls.

    This is progress for you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 09:02:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 09:55:05 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 21/6/25 5:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:31:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it would >>> have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the situation and
    then lied about it.

    Likely more.
    Next question?


    How long have you been a sociology expert?

    I didn't realize you also post as Chris.

    And the question is irrelevant.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jun 22 09:03:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 08:57:37 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 17:31:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it would >>have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the situation and >>then lied about it.

    Likely more.
    Next question?

    <crickets.wav>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Jun 22 09:44:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 6/22/2025 6:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:02:19 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 21/6/25 6:03, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your >>>>>>> eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math >>>>>>> sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are. >>>>>>>
    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.


    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-party-doubling-town-hall-meetings-republican-held/story?id=120644780>

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

    So now you admit

    No.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From btempleton@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 23 09:36:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 22 Jun 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:1039btc$ko4c$2@dont-email.me:

    On 6/22/2025 6:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:02:19 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 21/6/25 6:03, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on
    your eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle
    basic math sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you >>>>>>>> are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down >>>>>>> over random spots and count people. Get representative sample
    and average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.


    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-party-doubling-town-hall-
    meetings-republican-held/story?id=120644780>

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

    So now you admit

    No.

    Yes you do.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Jun 23 06:54:27 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 09:01:55 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:02:19 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 21/6/25 6:03, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your >>>>>>> eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math >>>>>>> sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are. >>>>>>>
    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.

    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-party-doubling-town-hall-meetings-republican-held/story?id=120644780>

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

    So now you admit that the dems manufacture the outrage at these
    townhalls.

    This is progress for you.

    And the drunk has run away.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Mon Jun 23 09:06:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your eyes
    and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over
    random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors favor the number you want.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Derek LeHousse@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 23 07:23:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/23/2025 2:36 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 22 Jun 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:1039btc$ko4c$2@dont-email.me:

    On 6/22/2025 6:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:02:19 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 21/6/25 6:03, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on >>>>>>>>> your eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle
    basic math sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you >>>>>>>>> are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down >>>>>>>> over random spots and count people. Get representative sample
    and average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos
    start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.


    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-party-doubling-town-hall-
    meetings-republican-held/story?id=120644780>

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

    So now you admit

    No.

    Yes

    No, Blowjob. Whenever a right-wingnut (aka Nazi) claims that an opponent "admits" something, he's always lying.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Mon Jun 23 15:24:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out
    and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over
    random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average.
    Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can
    easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors
    favor the number you want.

    If you wanted to do this in an honest way (honest being the opposite of corrupt), one would eyeball the chosen spot to see that it is nearly representative by picking a location with average population.


    'Lay it down over random spots and count people. Get representative
    sample and average.'

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike Shepherd@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 05:30:10 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 23 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:103bn90$1a58o$1@dont-email.me:

    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out
    and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over
    random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average.
    Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can
    easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors
    favor the number you want.

    That's what the media does. They lie and Democrats swear to it. A dead
    pig rotting in the sun still smells like a dead pig during moonlight.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Pipewrench Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 24 08:04:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/23/2025 10:30 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 23 Jun 2025, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
    posted some news:103bn90$1a58o$1@dont-email.me:

    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out
    and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over
    random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average.
    Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can
    easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors
    favor the number you want.

    That's what the media does.

    No, Blowjob.

    They lie and

    Only far-right-wingnut media lie, Blowjob.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Praetor Mandrake on Tue Jun 24 13:09:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Praetor Mandrake" <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mbtsvcFkhhuU2@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your eyes >>>> and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out
    and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over
    random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average.
    Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can
    easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors
    favor the number you want.

    If you wanted to do this in an honest way (honest being the opposite of corrupt), one would eyeball the chosen spot to see that it is nearly representative by picking a location with average population.

    And until you establish that the average population is how can you determine the location that will have a representative average population?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jun 24 13:10:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103ck61$1hsvl$2@dont-email.me...
    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out >>>>> and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over
    random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average.
    Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can
    easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors
    favor the number you want.

    If you wanted to do this in an honest way (honest being the opposite of
    corrupt), one would eyeball the chosen spot to see that it is nearly
    representative by picking a location with average population.


    'Lay it down over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average.'

    Assuming the spots are truly random and actually produce a representative sample. Again, you are assuming the samples will be representative of a
    massive area.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jun 24 11:06:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103ck61$1hsvl$2@dont-email.me...
    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out >>>>>> and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are. >>>>>>
    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over >>>>> random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average. >>>>> Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can
    easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors >>>> favor the number you want.

    If you wanted to do this in an honest way (honest being the opposite of
    corrupt), one would eyeball the chosen spot to see that it is nearly
    representative by picking a location with average population.


    'Lay it down over random spots and count people. Get representative
    sample and average.'

    Assuming the spots are truly random and actually produce a
    representative sample. Again, you are assuming the samples will be representative of a massive area.

    And this is why you were too stupid to take college math.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jun 24 18:12:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in news:103epg2$25ugu$2@dont-email.me:

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:103ck61$1hsvl$2@dont-email.me...
    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on
    your eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it >>>>>>> out and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you
    are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you
    can easily make the results into anything you want by insuring
    such errors favor the number you want.

    If you wanted to do this in an honest way (honest being the
    opposite of corrupt), one would eyeball the chosen spot to see that
    it is nearly representative by picking a location with average
    population.


    'Lay it down over random spots and count people. Get representative
    sample and average.'

    Assuming the spots are truly random and actually produce a
    representative sample. Again, you are assuming the samples will be
    representative of a massive area.

    And this is why you were too stupid to take college math.


    Pam Bondi says don't use math to embarass tRump.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jun 24 14:41:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103epg2$25ugu$2@dont-email.me...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:103ck61$1hsvl$2@dont-email.me...
    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your >>>>>>> eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math sorts it out >>>>>>> and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are. >>>>>>>
    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down over >>>>>> random spots and count people. Get representative sample and average. >>>>>> Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can >>>>> easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such errors >>>>> favor the number you want.

    If you wanted to do this in an honest way (honest being the opposite of >>>> corrupt), one would eyeball the chosen spot to see that it is nearly
    representative by picking a location with average population.


    'Lay it down over random spots and count people. Get representative
    sample and average.'

    Assuming the spots are truly random and actually produce a
    representative sample. Again, you are assuming the samples will be
    representative of a massive area.

    And this is why you were too stupid to take college math.

    Took it, learned it, passed it. one was even entitled the Statistical Error
    of Measurement.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Doctor Fill@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jun 24 15:13:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 6/24/2025 12:41 PM, Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103epg2$25ugu$2@dont-email.me...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:103ck61$1hsvl$2@dont-email.me...
    Praetor Mandrake wrote:
    Scout wrote:


    "Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me...
    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your >>>>>>>> eyes and
    your brain gives up, misrepresents.  A litle basic math sorts it >>>>>>>> out
    and
    provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example?  Depends where you are. >>>>>>>>
    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down >>>>>>> over
    random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average.
    Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    1) You assume the spot picked is actually representative.

    2) You assume the area is accurately calculated

    Even a slight mistake could massively swing the results, and you can >>>>>> easily make the results into anything you want by insuring such
    errors
    favor the number you want.

    If you wanted to do this in an honest way (honest being the
    opposite of
    corrupt), one would eyeball the chosen spot to see that it is nearly >>>>> representative by picking a location with average population.


    'Lay it down over random spots and count people. Get representative
    sample and average.'

    Assuming the spots are truly random and actually produce a
    representative sample. Again, you are assuming the samples will be
    representative of a massive area.

    And this is why you were too stupid to take college math.

    By 8th grade I was taught that one doesn't construct a sentence that
    begins with "And".


    Took it, learned it, passed it.  one was even entitled the Statistical
    Error of Measurement.




    You must have been smart enough in your youth to not take on a college
    major that ended in "studies," LOL.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    ‘The quiet that follows an exchange of missiles should not be mistaken
    for peace. It is often the eye of the storm.’

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 25 05:01:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 23 Jun 2025, Dumbass Rudy Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 6/23/2025 2:36 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 22 Jun 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1039btc$ko4c$2@dont-email.me:

    On 6/22/2025 6:01 AM, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 10:02:19 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 21/6/25 6:03, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:35:49 -0700, Siri Cruz
    <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On 20/6/25 21:27, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on >>>>>>>>>> your eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle >>>>>>>>>> basic math sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective. >>>>>>>>>>
    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you >>>>>>>>>> are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down >>>>>>>>> over random spots and count people. Get representative sample >>>>>>>>> and average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    And? How many did you come up with?


    That is the standard way to do census surveys.

    I know that count does not matter. What matters is whether Magoos >>>>>>> start to worry about reelections.

    Republicans in LA?

    Do tell.


    <https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-party-doubling-town-
    hall-
    meetings-republican-held/story?id=120644780>

    Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!

    So now you admit

    No.

    Yes

    No, Blowjob.

    Michael Terrell said he'd like one if you've got time.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jon Brady@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 18:39:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Jon Brady@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 18:40:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 20 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:1034lof$99rb$3@dont-email.me:

    On 20/6/25 14:01, Jon Brady wrote:
    Pictures are worth a thousand words, but they play tricks on your
    eyes and your brain gives up, misrepresents. A litle basic math
    sorts it out and provides a clearer perspective.

    How long is a city block in LA for example? Depends where you are.

    300-600 feet (Older, dense areas)
    500-700 feet (Federal buildings area)


    Using the picture scale, choose a size like 5m x 5m. Lay it down
    over random spots and count people. Get representative sample and
    average. Calculate the area with people. Multiply.

    Takes too long and the numbers will actually work out to be less than the example calcs I provided because of clumping or spacing. You could also
    try AI recognition, but that has drawbacks as well. The numbers will only
    be as good as the photos permit and prone to human error.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 6 11:47:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/6/2025 11:39 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work kicking my fat flabby doughy pimply Nazi faggot ass some more.

    He will, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Jon Brady on Sun Jul 6 15:18:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.

    Pound sand, dull boy.

    --
    Peers's Law:
    The solution to a problem changes the nature of the problem.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Jon Brady on Sun Jul 6 14:35:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert
    that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jul 7 08:27:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some
    news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert that
    the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass destruction doesn't matter.

    typical liberal mindset. Fuck the people impacted by the destructions of
    their homes, vehicles and property.. there just aren't enough of you to matter....

    However, you get 2 transvestites complaining they can't watch young women shower.. then of course IMMEDIATE action has to be taking.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 7 17:42:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some
    news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert
    that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 7 11:22:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some
    news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert
    that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass destruction doesn't matter.

    The protests were confined to a few blocks near a Home Depot. The city
    was not burning down.

    'Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned'

    typical liberal mindset. Fuck the people impacted by the destructions of their homes, vehicles and property.. there just aren't enough of you to matter....

    No homes, vehicles. nor properties were impacted. Other than ICE getting
    their asses handed to them. ICEstapo now operates without uniforms or identification, looking just like roaming gangs of armed criminals.

    However, you get 2 transvestites complaining they can't watch young
    women shower.. then of course IMMEDIATE action has to be taking.

    Why deny women, and especially girls, facilities that preserve their
    privacy? Why do you want to expose girls to lesbians watching them?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Locus Bring'r on Tue Jul 8 01:37:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Locus Bring'r <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:md2nbsFqgilU2 @mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some
    news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it >>>>>> would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert
    that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass
    destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh


    That wasn't looting, it was taking legitimate souvenirs. It's not like they-carried out Mitch McConnell's scalp like you are implying, Baxter.


    I didn't write anything in this post.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Locus Bring'r on Tue Jul 8 01:41:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Locus Bring'r <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:md2nbsFqgilU2 @mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some
    news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it >>>>>> would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert
    that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass
    destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh


    That wasn't looting, it was taking legitimate souvenirs.


    LOL!

    That's rich.

    "Your honor, my client is not a thief, he was
    just admiring this man's car and took the catalytic
    converter as a souvenir"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Tue Jul 8 08:40:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:104h38n$32073$1@dont-email.me...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some
    news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it
    would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert
    that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass
    destruction doesn't matter.

    The protests were confined to a few blocks near a Home Depot. The city was not burning down.

    So, according to you unless the "city is burning down" then any damage, vandalism, theft, even personal assaults can just be ignored?

    Ok, then all of the Jan 6th protesters are totally innocent of wrong doing,
    and those incarcerated should be compensated to the tune of millions for
    their wrongful conviction and incarcerations.

    .... or you could try being honest for once.


    'Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it would have burned'

    typical liberal mindset. Fuck the people impacted by the destructions of
    their homes, vehicles and property.. there just aren't enough of you to
    matter....

    No homes, vehicles. nor properties were impacted.

    Those facing the damage and destruction of their property would beg to
    differ.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 07:57:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <104hsnr$36jvc$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Locus Bring'r <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:md2nbsFqgilU2 @mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some >>>>> news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it >>>>>> would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert >>>> that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass
    destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh


    That wasn't looting, it was taking legitimate souvenirs. It's not like they-carried out Mitch McConnell's scalp like you are implying, Baxter.


    I didn't write anything in this post.

    Facts scare you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 07:58:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <XnsB315D1EFEBEB0629555@185.151.15.190>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Locus Bring'r <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:md2nbsFqgilU2 @mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some >>>>> news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it >>>>>> would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert >>>> that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass
    destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh


    That wasn't looting, it was taking legitimate souvenirs.


    LOL!

    That's rich.

    "Your honor, my client is not a thief, he was
    just admiring this man's car and took the catalytic
    converter as a souvenir"

    Did that work for your side that burned and spray painted
    innocent peoples car Mr. BUTWHATABOUT?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 9 08:00:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <ap9bQ.803571$9SBb.597790@fx18.iad>,
    kyulatt@gmail.com says...

    On 7/8/2025 5:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:104h38n$32073$1@dont-
    email.me...
    Scout wrote:


    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted some >>>>> news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage of it >>>>>> would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose into the
    situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy.  Impress us and figure it out yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen Colbert >>>> that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting, mass
    destruction doesn't matter.

    The protests were confined to a few blocks near a Home Depot. The city was not
    burning down.

    So, according to you unless the "city is burning down" then any damage, vandalism, theft, even personal assaults can just be ignored?

    No, scooter. That's just your straw man. He isn't saying that at all.


    Ok, then all of the Jan 6th protesters are totally innocent of wrong doing

    No, scooter, the insurrectionists are all guilty as fuck. Your straw man was shredded above.

    No, 90% of those arrested were never in the building. You
    support it only what your side does it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Wed Jul 9 17:54:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.42d823476e3d12dc98a420@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <104hsnr$36jvc$1@dont-email.me>, bax02
    _spamblock@baxcode.com says...

    Locus Bring'r <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:md2nbsFqgilU2
    @mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted
    some news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage
    of it would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose
    into the situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out
    yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen
    Colbert that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was
    about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting,
    mass destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh


    That wasn't looting, it was taking legitimate souvenirs. It's not
    like they-carried out Mitch McConnell's scalp like you are
    implying, Baxter.


    I didn't write anything in this post.

    Facts scare you?


    What would you know about facts?


    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Skeeter OG on Wed Jul 9 17:56:49 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.42d82384686e62b98a421@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB315D1EFEBEB0629555@185.151.15.190>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Locus Bring'r <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:md2nbsFqgilU2
    @mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted
    some news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage
    of it would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose
    into the situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out
    yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen
    Colbert that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was
    about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting,
    mass destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh


    That wasn't looting, it was taking legitimate souvenirs.


    LOL!

    That's rich.

    "Your honor, my client is not a thief, he was
    just admiring this man's car and took the catalytic
    converter as a souvenir"

    Did that work for your side that burned and spray painted
    innocent peoples car Mr. BUTWHATABOUT?



    Did that work for your side that
    invaded the US Capitol to steal furniture
    and smear their shit on the walls?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jul 10 18:06:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Fri Jul 11 07:59:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the statement.

    --
    ...And no philosophy, sadly, has all the answers. No matter how assured
    we may be about certain aspects of our belief, there are always painful inconsistencies, exceptions, and contradictions. This is true in religion as it is in politics, and is self-evident to all except fanatics and the naive.
    As for the fanatics, whose number is legion in our own time, we might be advised to leave them to heaven. They will not, unfortunately, do us the
    same courtesy. They attack us and each other, and whatever their
    protestations to peaceful intent, the bloody record of history makes clear
    that they are easily disposed to restore to the sword. My own belief in
    God, then, is just that -- a matter of belief, not knowledge. My respect
    for Jesus Christ arises from the fact that He seems to have been the
    most virtuous inhabitant of Planet Earth. But even well-educated Christians are frustrated in their thirst for certainty about the beloved figure
    of Jesus because of the undeniable ambiguity of the scriptural record.
    Such ambiguity is not apparent to children or fanatics, but every
    recognized Bible scholar is perfectly aware of it. Some Christians, alas, resort to formal lying to obscure such reality.
    - Steve Allen, comedian, from an essay in the book "The Courage of
    Conviction", edited by Philip Berman

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Fri Jul 11 07:54:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."

    I see now that Skeeter is not quite right because it is still possible
    to prove SOME things without full knowledge. Good on you for catching that.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Fri Jul 11 18:19:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."


    And that is, of course, wrong.

    Science has established with 100%
    certainty that viruses cause disease,
    that vaccines work, that the Earth
    is round, that the Moon landings
    happened, that thare was no Noah
    flood, that the speed of light has
    been established, that the age of
    Earth has been established, that
    faith healing is a fiction, that
    climate change is real, that
    evolution happpens.

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri Jul 11 13:40:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100%
    certainty."


    And that is, of course, wrong.

    Science has established with 100%
    certainty that viruses cause disease,
    that vaccines work, that the Earth
    is round, that the Moon landings
    happened, that thare was no Noah
    flood, that the speed of light has
    been established, that the age of
    Earth has been established, that
    faith healing is a fiction, that
    climate change is real, that
    evolution happpens.

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    Is that right?

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Fri Jul 11 17:49:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Skeeter OG@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 11 17:49:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    In article <XnsB3178321F6017629555@185.151.15.160>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com> wrote in news:MPG.42d82384686e62b98a421@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <XnsB315D1EFEBEB0629555@185.151.15.190>,
    noemail@aol.com says...

    Locus Bring'r <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:md2nbsFqgilU2
    @mid.individual.net:

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
    news:104giej$2uhgq$2@dont-email.me:



    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:104eq75$2ep2h$4@dont-email.me...
    Jon Brady wrote:
    On 20 Jun 2025, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> posted
    some news:1034jvl$8qov$1@dont-email.me:

    Jon Brady wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    <irrelevant mathematics snipped>

    Now present the total area of LA and tell us what percentage
    of it would have burned, had Trump not stuck his orange nose
    into the situation and then lied about it.

    Get to work, bright boy. Impress us and figure it out
    yourself.


    Los Angeles is bigger than podunk villages out east. Stephen
    Colbert that the couple blocks where the protests occurred was
    about 0.01%.

    I see.. so as long as the city is big enough.. rioting, looting,
    mass destruction doesn't matter.


    They didn't matter to the "rioting looting
    and mass destruction" caused by your Jan 6
    heroes. Who is going to pay for THAT?




    $30 Million In Damages From Pro-Trump Riot
    FEBRUARY 24, 2021
    https://tinyurl.com/bddt46jh


    That wasn't looting, it was taking legitimate souvenirs.


    LOL!

    That's rich.

    "Your honor, my client is not a thief, he was
    just admiring this man's car and took the catalytic
    converter as a souvenir"

    Did that work for your side that burned and spray painted
    innocent peoples car Mr. BUTWHATABOUT?



    Did that work for your side that
    invaded the US Capitol to steal furniture
    and smear their shit on the walls?

    BUT WHAT ABOUT!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sat Jul 12 23:21:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Sun Jul 13 07:15:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>> certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g. chemistry and physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for example, there is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements at the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that underlies space flight, spectroscopy, electronics etc. are well settled,

    --
    He who walks on burning coals is sure to get burned.
    -- Sinbad

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Sun Jul 13 06:25:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>>> certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means? >>>> Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g. chemistry and physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for example, there is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements at the deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks show?

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Sun Jul 13 08:07:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>>>> certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means? >>>>> Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>> to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g. chemistry and >> physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for example, there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements at the >> deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that
    underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks show?

    He's not using science :-)

    --
    He who writes with no misspelled words has prevented a first suspicion
    on the limits of his scholarship or, in the social world, of his general education and culture.
    -- Julia Norton McCorkle

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Sun Jul 13 13:05:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    chine.bleu wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is wrong
    and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and is brought up >>> >to date.  There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide
    open
    to change.
    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted centuries.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective.
    If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment results so they can prove they are objective.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not. Life is
    easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    Science denies the Tarot. I can't use it.

    I know the supernatural is something that's not supposed to happen, but
    it does happen.
    --
    Hasbro

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Sun Jul 13 10:34:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.
    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted centuries.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective.
    If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment
    results so they can prove they are objective.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not. Life is
    easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
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    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Sun Jul 13 11:07:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g. chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for example, there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements at the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that >>> >>underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks show?
    He's not using science:-)

    The point of NASA was to find all the ways to blow up rockets and not
    repeat.

    --
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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Jul 13 17:48:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 23:21:46 -0500, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>>> certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means? >>>> Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    You are moving the goal posts. That is not what was originally
    claimed. Nobody said science was infallible. A claim was made that
    science had determined some facts with certainty and a few examples
    were given. You have responded by insisting that science does NOT
    ever find out anything with certainty. Aside from being wrong, you're changing the topic.

    No I'm not. I said that skeeter was right, then someone refuted him.
    Then I mentioned my version of what he said, the way I say it. I'm not
    moving the goal posts just demonstrating that my statement is weaker
    than skeeter's but in fact is correct while his is suspect.
    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Jul 13 17:50:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Jul 2025 23:21:46 -0500, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>>> certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means? >>>> Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    You are moving the goal posts. That is not what was originally
    claimed. Nobody said science was infallible. A claim was made that
    science had determined some facts with certainty and a few examples
    were given. You have responded by insisting that science does NOT
    ever find out anything with certainty. Aside from being wrong, you're changing the topic.

    I don't move the goal posts much. I may have used to, but people on
    staff around here do it with such frequency that the practice repulses
    me now.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jul 14 07:00:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>> >to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective.
    If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it
    down.

    --
    "Intelligence without character is a dangerous thing."
    -- G. Steinem

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jul 14 06:42:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>>>> to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted
    centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    I understood it just fine, layman. I don't think that it's that I have
    any greater reading comprehension than you, it's that I am not opposed
    to the author and intentionally misreading.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective.
    If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment
    results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us know his
    Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not possible to get
    the result they wanted. Can you see any benefit in that?

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it
    down.

    Mmm. Good.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 09:10:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>>>>> to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted
    centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    I understood it just fine, layman. I don't think that it's that I have
    any greater reading comprehension than you, it's that I am not opposed
    to the author and intentionally misreading.

    Layman :-D You trollin' bro.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective. >>> If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment
    results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    That's a silly/ambiguous comment.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us know his
    Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not possible to get
    the result they wanted. Can you see any benefit in that?

    Yes.

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it
    down.

    Mmm. Good.

    --
    BEWARE! People acting under the influence of human nature.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 08:50:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means? Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 08:53:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdgqiqF82e4U2@mid.individual.net...
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>> certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong and
    it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up to
    date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open to change.

    And yet it has.... true, not all the time, and certainly not about every
    topic, but here you are asserting the very absolute you are asserting is
    never accurate.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jul 14 06:49:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>>>> to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted
    centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective.
    If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment
    results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it
    down.

    It modus tollens or proof by contradiction.

    You assume a statement you wish to disprove, show this assumption leads
    to problems, and that proves the statement is wrong. It is a valid and productive method of deduction as long as you keep your focus.

    From my experience uncertainty/incompleteness is embedded in every part
    of the universe. In comes from the difference between aleph-0 and
    aleph-1. The assumption resolves some annoying contradiction.

    --
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 08:59:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>> to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g. chemistry
    and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for example,
    there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements at
    the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that
    underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks
    show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering. Which is why
    engineers regularly include a "safety factor". A space ship as a very small safety factor and the interaction between the engineering, science and
    reality shows were issues were ignored or improperly applied/understood
    between in the interactions between every component and between thosw components and reality. Why? Because we simply can not, currently, know
    these until put under real world testing. We think we have the science
    right.. but SOB sometimes elements arise that either were not considered or which we knew nothing about.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jul 14 09:00:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1050skb$2svmf$3@dont-email.me...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for
    example, there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements
    at the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics
    that
    underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks
    show?
    He's not using science:-)

    The point of NASA was to find all the ways to blow up rockets and not
    repeat.

    LOL.. short, sweet, and accurate.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jul 14 10:11:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>>>>> to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted
    centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective. >>> If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment
    results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Actually, the big problem these days is people rejecting science they
    don't like.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it
    down.

    It modus tollens or proof by contradiction.

    You assume a statement you wish to disprove, show this assumption leads
    to problems, and that proves the statement is wrong. It is a valid and productive method of deduction as long as you keep your focus.

    As I said, strawman. Trivial.

    From my experience uncertainty/incompleteness is embedded in every part
    of the universe. In comes from the difference between aleph-0 and
    aleph-1. The assumption resolves some annoying contradiction.

    Haw haw haw you funny.

    --
    Boren's Laws (precursor to Trump's laws):
    (1) When in charge, ponder.
    (2) When in trouble, delegate.
    (3) When in doubt, mumble.
    Trump's Laws:
    (1) When in charge, talk loud and make up stuff.
    (2) When in trouble, delegate the blame.
    (3) When in doubt, talk loud and make up stuff.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 15:00:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us know
    his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not possible
    to get the result they wanted. Can you see any benefit in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method. Science is not ever
    about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 14 10:39:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

         The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means?
    Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote.  You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty.  In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is wrong >>>> and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>> to date.  There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide
    open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for
    example, there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements
    at the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that
    underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks
    show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering. Which is why engineers regularly include a "safety factor". A space ship as a very
    small safety factor and the interaction between the engineering, science
    and reality shows were issues were ignored or improperly
    applied/understood between in the interactions between every component
    and between thosw components and reality. Why? Because we simply can
    not, currently, know these until put under real world testing. We think
    we have the science right.. but SOB sometimes elements arise that either
    were not considered or which we knew nothing about.




    I'm gonna disagree.

    I don't feel that issues were ignored or improperly applied.

    I feel that rockets are such a complex system that if any one thing goes
    wrong (such as the O rings for Challenger) the whole system goes to
    Draper and gets fucked. You can't build a safety factor for any one fuck
    up in the whole system. You basically have to find out the hard way -
    Russia solved many of our problems because they blew up a megaton of
    rockets getting into space. NASA took this to heart. Elon is
    reinventing the wheel in many ways and playing catch up in my opinion.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 14 10:35:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100%
    certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    It's clear to me -

    Science has never said anything with certainty
    because it doesn't know if it's done searching.


    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jul 14 10:40:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Baxter wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us know
    his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not possible
    to get the result they wanted. Can you see any benefit in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method. Science is not ever about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

    That's science - tweak all the formulas and equations until they fit
    reality. When they fit, they declare it done.

    However, much in reality can be fit by more than one set of formulae.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Mon Jul 14 10:42:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    chine.bleu wrote:
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is wrong >>>>>> and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and is
    brought up
    to date.  There is always some subtle change around the corner, I >>>>>> contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is
    wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted
    centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective. >>> If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment
    results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it
    down.

    It modus tollens or proof by contradiction.

    You assume a statement you wish to disprove, show this assumption leads
    to problems, and that proves the statement is wrong. It is a valid and productive method of deduction as long as you keep your focus.

    From my experience uncertainty/incompleteness is embedded in every part
    of the universe. In comes from the difference between aleph-0 and
    aleph-1. The assumption resolves some annoying contradiction.

    That reminds me I'm reading Isaac Azimov's FoundaTION again because
    Stephen King says reading a lot is the way to become a better writer.
    I'm working on my second book. It's about the length of a novella.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jul 14 10:43:32 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I >>>>>>> contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted >>>> centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective. >>>> If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment >>>> results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Actually, the big problem these days is people rejecting science they
    don't like.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it
    down.

    It modus tollens or proof by contradiction.

    You assume a statement you wish to disprove, show this assumption leads
    to problems, and that proves the statement is wrong. It is a valid and
    productive method of deduction as long as you keep your focus.

    As I said, strawman. Trivial.

    From my experience uncertainty/incompleteness is embedded in every part
    of the universe. In comes from the difference between aleph-0 and
    aleph-1. The assumption resolves some annoying contradiction.

    Haw haw haw you funny.

    Now I think you're trolling me to see if I'll produce a flailing
    response defending siri for a SECOND time.

    Proof by contradiction is a perfectly valid form of mathematical proof.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 14 10:44:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdgqiqF82e4U2@mid.individual.net...
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>>> certainty."

        The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means? >>>> Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote.  You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty.  In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is wrong
    and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date.  There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide
    open to change.

    And yet it has.... true, not all the time, and certainly not about every topic, but here you are asserting the very absolute you are asserting is never accurate.

    Sorry, I can't understand what you are getting at in this sentence.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 12:00:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Premise:

    because it doesn't know if it's done searching.

    Conclusion:

    Science has never said anything with certainty

    Wrong.

    (done with this troll)

    --
    "...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead
    sit in front of your linux computer playing with the
    all-new-and-improved linux kernel version."
    (By Linus Torvalds)

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 12:03:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I >>>>>>>> contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted >>>>> centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective. >>>>> If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment >>>>> results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Actually, the big problem these days is people rejecting science they
    don't like.

    Science produces useful results whether it is correct or not.

    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    Life is easier if you accept some things you cannot know.

    You set up the strawman of "science knows everything" only to knock it >>>> down.

    It modus tollens or proof by contradiction.

    You assume a statement you wish to disprove, show this assumption leads
    to problems, and that proves the statement is wrong. It is a valid and
    productive method of deduction as long as you keep your focus.

    As I said, strawman. Trivial.

    From my experience uncertainty/incompleteness is embedded in every part >>> of the universe. In comes from the difference between aleph-0 and
    aleph-1. The assumption resolves some annoying contradiction.

    Haw haw haw you funny.

    Now I think you're trolling me to see if I'll produce a flailing
    response defending siri for a SECOND time.

    Proof by contradiction is a perfectly valid form of mathematical proof.

    Siri is applying it to *science*.

    --
    What does "it" mean in the sentence "What time is it?"?

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Jul 14 09:28:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Proof by contradiction is a perfectly valid form of mathematical proof.
    Siri is applying it to*science*.

    It is valid in every context where you can prove and disprove. I know in
    this context it is weaker. I am using vaguer notions of never that
    depend on examples rather than a math negated universal quantifier. I
    use language to indicate that.

    Universal quantification is a powerful mathematical notion. I dislike
    bland and unsupported claims of what is always in all cases. I try to
    avoid it unless I am using obviously emotional language.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Mon Jul 14 12:59:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klyvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ztadQ.152361$YCgd.102354@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:mdgqiqF82e4U2@mid.individual.net...
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never*
    said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open >>> to change.

    And yet

    A scooterism

    A Rudism.. with the sole intent of avoiding discussion which he knows he
    will lose.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Mon Jul 14 13:11:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdkmkoFrv2aU1@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>>
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>> means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll. >>>>>>
    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never* >>>>>> said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide
    open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for example, >>>> there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements at >>>> the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that >>>> underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks
    show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering. Which is why
    engineers regularly include a "safety factor". A space ship as a very
    small safety factor and the interaction between the engineering, science
    and reality shows were issues were ignored or improperly
    applied/understood between in the interactions between every component
    and between thosw components and reality. Why? Because we simply can not,
    currently, know these until put under real world testing. We think we
    have the science right.. but SOB sometimes elements arise that either
    were not considered or which we knew nothing about.




    I'm gonna disagree.

    I don't feel that issues were ignored or improperly applied.

    I never said they were ignored or improperly applied, I'm simply stating you have a mass design which pushes the downward limit of safety factors (to
    save weight) and subjecting it to conditions that can't be totally tested on the ground or even by computer simulation (as the simulation is only as good
    as your knowledge of the inputs and interactions).

    Rather I recognize that there is a legitimate purpose and need for actual flight testing.. and shit is probably going to go wrong during it. Unlike an airplane you can't apply minimal forces and then slowly increase loadings
    and conditions. It's a rocket in flight.. it either goes. or it doesn't.
    There are no half measures.


    I feel that rockets are such a complex system that if any one thing goes wrong (such as the O rings for Challenger) the whole system goes to Draper and gets fucked.

    Exactly and you never know which systems they will be.

    You can't build a safety factor for any one fuck up in the whole system.
    You basically have to find out the hard way - Russia solved many of our >problems because they blew up a megaton of rockets getting into space. NASA >took this to heart. Elon is reinventing the wheel in many ways and playing >catch up in my opinion.

    In some ways, in others he is doing things that have never been tried before using technologies that didn't even exist until he created them.

    Shit is going to fail. That's why we have such testing. Even a mature area
    like airplane design (with a larger safety factor) still undergo extensive testing until they are flight certified.

    indeed those that complain we've not been back to the Moon because we "lost
    the technology" don't know what they are talking about. Under current rules
    a Saturn V wouldn't be flight certified, much less for human cargo. That's
    not even considering how inefficient the design was. It was designed and
    build for one purpose. To get to the moon before the Russians, and hopefully without killing to many people in the process.

    So, now, pushing the boundaries as Musk is doing... shit is going to happen, often minor, rarely major and perhaps on rare occasions even catastrophic.
    To suggest anything else is to be a narrow minded fool as some here seem to
    be when they suggest every flight should be perfect each time, every time,
    all the time.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Mon Jul 14 13:12:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klegatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:juadQ.152362$YCgd.64931@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:59 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: >>>>
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>> means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll. >>>>>>
    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never* >>>>>> said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide
    open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for example, >>>> there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements at >>>> the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics that >>>> underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks
    show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering.

    Muskrat understands neither, scooter.

    That's ok, because you understand nothing.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jul 14 13:17:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:105361o$3fck1$2@dont-email.me...
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us know
    his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not possible
    to get the result they wanted. Can you see any benefit in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method. Science is not ever about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

    actually it is. You want to do X.. you try time and time again to achieve X
    and if you do it enough, you're good enough, and smart enough you may
    finally figure out a way to do it.

    Say you want to figure out how to control the reaction between A and B which usually when mixed and ignited simply explode. You try different means of mixing, burning and igniting until you figure it out.

    Free hint. The Saturn V engines has serious issues with this as they
    regularly blew up. Yet they kept trying different ideas until they figured
    out the science that would allow them to produce those engines. Sure, you
    can call it engineering, but engineering is based on the science. If the science is screwed up, so will the engineering.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Mon Jul 14 13:21:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or 100% >>>>> certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because science
    has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty." And that's a
    true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science never "proves" anything
    at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually flat
    despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    Maybe Water is NOT H2O but actually something else?

    Sorry, but science does prove things. It is the things that are proven that allows up to built on those proofs and expand our knowledge.

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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 14 15:31:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/14/2025 11:11 AM, Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdkmkoFrv2aU1@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

         The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>> means?
    Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, troll. >>>>>>>
    But that's not what you wrote.  You wrote that science has *never* >>>>>>> said anything with absolute certainty.  In fact, science has said >>>>>>> *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is wrong >>>>>> and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and is
    brought up
    to date.  There is always some subtle change around the corner, I >>>>>> contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is
    wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review
    and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for
    example, there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements
    at the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics
    that
    underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a
    fireworks show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering. Which is why
    engineers regularly include a "safety factor". A space ship as a very
    small safety factor and the interaction between the engineering,
    science and reality shows were issues were ignored or improperly
    applied/understood between in the interactions between every
    component and between thosw components and reality. Why? Because we
    simply can not, currently, know these until put under real world
    testing. We think we have the science right.. but SOB sometimes
    elements arise that either were not considered or which we knew
    nothing about.




    I'm gonna disagree.

    I don't feel that issues were ignored or improperly applied.

    I never said they were ignored or improperly applied, I'm simply stating
    you have a mass design which pushes the downward limit of safety factors
    (to save weight) and subjecting it to conditions that can't be totally
    tested on the ground or even by computer simulation (as the simulation
    is only as good as your knowledge of the inputs and interactions).

    Rather I recognize that there is a legitimate purpose and need for
    actual flight testing.. and shit is probably going to go wrong during
    it. Unlike an airplane you can't apply minimal forces and then slowly increase loadings and conditions. It's a rocket in flight.. it either
    goes. or it doesn't. There are no half measures.


    I feel that rockets are such a complex system that if any one thing
    goes wrong (such as the O rings for Challenger) the whole system goes
    to Draper and gets fucked.

    Exactly and you never know which systems they will be.

    You can't build a safety factor for any one fuck up in the whole
    system. You basically have to find out the hard way - Russia solved
    many of our problems because they blew up a megaton of rockets getting
    into space. NASA took this to heart.  Elon is reinventing the wheel in
    many ways and playing catch up in my opinion.

    In some ways, in others he is doing things that have never been tried
    before using technologies that didn't even exist until he created them.

    Shit is going to fail. That's why we have such testing. Even a mature
    area like airplane design (with a larger safety factor) still undergo extensive testing until they are flight certified.

    indeed those that complain we've not been back to the Moon because we
    "lost the technology" don't know what they are talking about. Under
    current rules a Saturn V wouldn't be flight certified, much less for
    human cargo. That's not even considering how inefficient the design was.
    It was designed and build for one purpose. To get to the moon before the Russians, and hopefully without killing to many people in the process.

    So, now, pushing the boundaries as Musk is doing... shit is going to
    happen, often minor, rarely major and perhaps on rare occasions even catastrophic. To suggest anything else is to be a narrow minded fool as
    some here seem to be when they suggest every flight should be perfect
    each time, every time, all the time.




    This is a Youtube channel that does an outstanding job of making each of
    the NASA projects interesting, exciting, and entertaining. When the
    original NASA projects were happening, "we" were limited to what "60
    Minutes" or Walter Cronkite or some other network talking head would be
    able to tell "us" in relatively abbreviated chunks of time.

    Home Made Documentaries is impressive because it collects thousands of
    hours of videos from various space projects that would have remained
    unseen in vaults somewhere and forgotten. Check it out. The videos on
    the Apollo Missions are amazing. One sees videos of things you never
    knew happened, in depth and with great narrative.

    https://www.youtube.com/@JacksonTyler

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=homemade+documentaries

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Tue Jul 15 00:52:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 2025-07-14, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I >>>>>>> contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review and >>>>> feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes lasted >>>> centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is objective. >>>> If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we make up experiment >>>> results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Actually, the big problem these days is people rejecting science they
    don't like.

    Flatten the curve in 10 days.
    Masks work agains COVID.
    Masks don't work against COVID.
    So now 2 masks work against COVID.
    The vax prevents transmission of COVID.
    ETC.

    While MOST science is honest, there is a large faction of "science"
    that is simply preserving their next grant to fund their never ending
    research.

    The system is corrupt.



    --
    pothead

    36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
    the *Snit (AKA Michael Glasser)*, this should not be done. He
    will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
    need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
    set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
    pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
    engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
    you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004 <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to pothead on Tue Jul 15 02:55:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:10548of$3msd5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-07-14, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is >>>>>>>> wrong and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and >>>>>>>> is brought up to date. There is always some subtle change
    around the corner, I contend. It cannot speak with absolute
    certainty because it is wide open to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it is not), it has strict controls on how it is done,
    with peer review and feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes
    lasted centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is
    objective. If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we
    make up experiment results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Actually, the big problem these days is people rejecting science they
    don't like.

    Flatten the curve in 10 days.
    Masks work agains COVID.
    Masks don't work against COVID.
    So now 2 masks work against COVID.
    The vax prevents transmission of COVID.
    ETC.

    While MOST science is honest, there is a large faction of "science"
    that is simply preserving their next grant to fund their never ending research.

    The system is corrupt.

    No.

    You are an idiot.

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Jul 14 23:25:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Jul 2025 12:00:48 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
    <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Premise:

    because it doesn't know if it's done searching.

    Conclusion:

    Science has never said anything with certainty

    Wrong.

    (done with this troll)

    Ditto.

    He had a promising start though.

    Great. Next time you respond to me, I'll get you for double think too.
    You'll see, I'll say something that will get your goad.

    I don't consider myself a troll. I consider myself someone who speaks
    strongly behind a wall of distance. You're over 400 mi away - I'm not
    cowed by your physical pretext. I don't think I overdo it like checkmate
    did and got his own self slayed by usenet. Guy died, did you realize that?

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 14 23:28:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:

    Free hint. The Saturn V engines has serious issues with this as they regularly blew up. Yet they kept trying different ideas until they
    figured out the science that would allow them to produce those engines.
    Sure, you can call it engineering, but engineering is based on the
    science. If the science is screwed up, so will the engineering.

    Sounds like they stopped using science and started kludging instead.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Scout on Mon Jul 14 23:26:58 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdkmkoFrv2aU1@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

         The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>> means?
    Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, troll. >>>>>>>
    But that's not what you wrote.  You wrote that science has *never* >>>>>>> said anything with absolute certainty.  In fact, science has said >>>>>>> *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is wrong >>>>>> and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and is
    brought up
    to date.  There is always some subtle change around the corner, I >>>>>> contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is
    wide open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review
    and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for
    example, there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements
    at the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics
    that
    underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a
    fireworks show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering. Which is why
    engineers regularly include a "safety factor". A space ship as a very
    small safety factor and the interaction between the engineering,
    science and reality shows were issues were ignored or improperly
    applied/understood between in the interactions between every
    component and between thosw components and reality. Why? Because we
    simply can not, currently, know these until put under real world
    testing. We think we have the science right.. but SOB sometimes
    elements arise that either were not considered or which we knew
    nothing about.




    I'm gonna disagree.

    I don't feel that issues were ignored or improperly applied.

    I never said they were ignored or improperly applied, I'm simply stating
    you have a mass design which pushes the downward limit of safety factors
    (to save weight) and subjecting it to conditions that can't be totally
    tested on the ground or even by computer simulation (as the simulation
    is only as good as your knowledge of the inputs and interactions).

    Rather I recognize that there is a legitimate purpose and need for
    actual flight testing.. and shit is probably going to go wrong during
    it. Unlike an airplane you can't apply minimal forces and then slowly increase loadings and conditions. It's a rocket in flight.. it either
    goes. or it doesn't. There are no half measures.


    I feel that rockets are such a complex system that if any one thing
    goes wrong (such as the O rings for Challenger) the whole system goes
    to Draper and gets fucked.

    Exactly and you never know which systems they will be.

    You can't build a safety factor for any one fuck up in the whole
    system. You basically have to find out the hard way - Russia solved
    many of our problems because they blew up a megaton of rockets getting
    into space. NASA took this to heart.  Elon is reinventing the wheel in
    many ways and playing catch up in my opinion.

    In some ways, in others he is doing things that have never been tried
    before using technologies that didn't even exist until he created them.

    Shit is going to fail. That's why we have such testing. Even a mature
    area like airplane design (with a larger safety factor) still undergo extensive testing until they are flight certified.

    indeed those that complain we've not been back to the Moon because we
    "lost the technology" don't know what they are talking about. Under
    current rules a Saturn V wouldn't be flight certified, much less for
    human cargo. That's not even considering how inefficient the design was.
    It was designed and build for one purpose. To get to the moon before the Russians, and hopefully without killing to many people in the process.

    So, now, pushing the boundaries as Musk is doing... shit is going to
    happen, often minor, rarely major and perhaps on rare occasions even catastrophic. To suggest anything else is to be a narrow minded fool as
    some here seem to be when they suggest every flight should be perfect
    each time, every time, all the time.



    I'll have to use it. I was trying to get full run every time. I wonder
    how many of these I'll need for certainty.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 11:56:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <klegatt@gmail.com> posted some news:PbcdQ.458278$V4j4.440623@fx46.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:12 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klegatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:juadQ.152362$YCgd.64931@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:59 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with
    absolute or 100% certainty."

         The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what
    100% means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are >>>>>>>>> off topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote.  You wrote that science has
    *never* said anything with absolute certainty.  In fact,
    science has said *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is >>>>>>> wrong and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and >>>>>>> is brought up to date.  There is always some subtle change
    around the corner, I contend. It cannot speak with absolute
    certainty because it is wide open to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it is not), it has strict controls on how it is done,
    with peer review and feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In
    physics, for example, there is no "mistaken information". Rather,
    there are ongoing refinements at the deep end as accelerators
    provide ever higher energies. The physics that underlies space
    flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a
    fireworks show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering.

    Muskrat understands neither, scooter.

    That's ok, because you understand

    everything worth understanding

    Explain how dumb voters have to be to support someone like Kamala Harris
    or Elizabeth Warren.

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 12:43:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kubatt@gmail.com> posted some news:tacdQ.458277$V4j4.109326@fx46.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 9:59 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klyvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ztadQ.152361$YCgd.102354@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mdgqiqF82e4U2@mid.individual.net...
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>> or 100% certainty."

        The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off
    topic, troll.

    But that's not what you wrote.  You wrote that science has
    *never* said anything with absolute certainty.  In fact, science >>>>>> has said *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time.  It is
    wrong and it corrects itself.  It has mistaken information and is >>>>> brought up to date. There is always some subtle change around the
    corner, I contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because
    it is wide open to change.

    And yet

    A scooterism

    A Rudism.

    No, scooter. When I point

    Everyone sees how short and dirty your fingers are.

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 12:28:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurbatt@gmail.com> posted some news:4dcdQ.458279$V4j4.7325@fx46.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:17 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:105361o$3fck1$2@dont-email.me...
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and
    findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us
    know his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not
    possible to get the result they wanted.  Can you see any benefit
    in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method.  Science is
    not ever about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

    actually

    Another scooterism

    Rudy continues down the loquacious pathway to hypocrisy.

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  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 13:38:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurgatt@gmail.com> posted some news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in
    Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>> 100% certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, >>>>> troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    It's not a theory. It's a scientific fact as are the following.

    If we were both standing on the same sea level plane, the distance to
    the horizon for you would be 1.5 miles because of the earth's curvature
    and your diminutive height.

    For me, it would be 3.08 miles because I'm taller than you. You'd also
    see the sun set before I would if that's any consolation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Tue Jul 15 06:24:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    burch cassidy wrote:
    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurbatt@gmail.com> posted some news:4dcdQ.458279$V4j4.7325@fx46.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:17 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:105361o$3fck1$2@dont-email.me...
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and
    findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us
    know his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not
    possible to get the result they wanted.  Can you see any benefit >>>>> in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method.  Science is >>>> not ever about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

    actually

    Another scooterism

    Rudy continues down the loquacious pathway to hypocrisy.

    The red haired bastard said something like,

    "Not to be pedantic, but...."

    and then waited for applause.

    You are no Mel Brooks, sir.

    --
    Hasbro

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Jul 15 12:38:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 2025-07-15, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:10548of$3msd5$1@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-07-14, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is >>>>>>>>> wrong and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and >>>>>>>>> is brought up to date. There is always some subtle change
    around the corner, I contend. It cannot speak with absolute
    certainty because it is wide open to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, >>>>>>> with peer review and feedback from the scientific communities.

    Self-correcting is an assumption. It is assumed mistakes will be
    revealed by subsequent contradictions. We have examples of people
    ignoring revealing contradictions. Also examples where mistakes
    lasted centuries.

    That's some mess of "logic" you just dropped there.

    Science makes assumptions about the universe, like reality is
    objective. If this is wrong and we make up reality as we go, we
    make up experiment results so they can prove they are objective.

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    It is if you are unaware of the limitations.

    Actually, the big problem these days is people rejecting science they
    don't like.

    Flatten the curve in 10 days.
    Masks work agains COVID.
    Masks don't work against COVID.
    So now 2 masks work against COVID.
    The vax prevents transmission of COVID.
    ETC.

    While MOST science is honest, there is a large faction of "science"
    that is simply preserving their next grant to fund their never ending
    research.

    The system is corrupt.

    No.

    You are an idiot.

    Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment !



    --
    pothead

    36- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with
    the *Snit (AKA Michael Glasser)*, this should not be done. He
    will drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted
    need to be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts,
    set up strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
    pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
    engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
    you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!" 27 Oct 2004 <https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 15 08:19:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kubatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:tacdQ.458277$V4j4.109326@fx46.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 9:59 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klyvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ztadQ.152361$YCgd.102354@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mdgqiqF82e4U2@mid.individual.net...
    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>> means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll. >>>>>>
    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never* >>>>>> said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said
    *many* things with absolute certainty.


    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is wrong >>>>> and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought up >>>>> to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I
    contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide
    open to change.

    And yet

    A scooterism

    A Rudism.

    No, scooter.

    A Rudism

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Tue Jul 15 07:31:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    burch cassidy wrote:
    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurgatt@gmail.com> posted some news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>> news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in
    Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>> 100% certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic,
    troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    It's not a theory. It's a scientific fact as are the following.

    If we were both standing on the same sea level plane, the distance to
    the horizon for you would be 1.5 miles because of the earth's curvature
    and your diminutive height.

    For me, it would be 3.08 miles because I'm taller than you. You'd also
    see the sun set before I would if that's any consolation.

    What a burn. It took you an hour to come up with that.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 15 08:18:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klegatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:PbcdQ.458278$V4j4.440623@fx46.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:12 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klegatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:juadQ.152362$YCgd.64931@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:59 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mdhjckFc2cqU1@mid.individual.net...
    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse
    code:

    Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Jul 2025 "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" wrote:

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>>> means?
    Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic, troll. >>>>>>>>
    But that's not what you wrote. You wrote that science has *never* >>>>>>>> said anything with absolute certainty. In fact, science has said >>>>>>>> *many* things with absolute certainty.

    It has not because science corrects itself all the time. It is
    wrong
    and it corrects itself. It has mistaken information and is brought >>>>>>> up
    to date. There is always some subtle change around the corner, I >>>>>>> contend. It cannot speak with absolute certainty because it is wide >>>>>>> open
    to change.

    Science is not "wide open" to change. When properly implemented
    (sometimes it
    is not), it has strict controls on how it is done, with peer review >>>>>> and
    feedback from the scientific communities.

    You also need to distinguish between the "hard" sciences (e.g.
    chemistry and
    physics) and "soft" sciences (e.g. sociology). In physics, for
    example, there
    is no "mistaken information". Rather, there are ongoing refinements >>>>>> at the
    deep end as accelerators provide ever higher energies. The physics >>>>>> that
    underlies space flight,

    Then why can't Elon launch a space ship without putting on a fireworks >>>>> show?

    Because there is a gap between science and engineering.

    Muskrat understands neither, scooter.

    That's ok, because you understand

    everything worth understanding

    Is nothing you would understand.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 15 08:20:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurbatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4dcdQ.458279$V4j4.7325@fx46.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:17 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:105361o$3fck1$2@dont-email.me...
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us know
    his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not possible
    to get the result they wanted. Can you see any benefit in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method. Science is not
    ever
    about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

    actually

    Another scooterism — empty wheeze.

    Another Rudism - empty wheeze.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Tue Jul 15 08:22:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdm3npF4jguU3@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:

    Free hint. The Saturn V engines has serious issues with this as they
    regularly blew up. Yet they kept trying different ideas until they
    figured out the science that would allow them to produce those engines.
    Sure, you can call it engineering, but engineering is based on the
    science. If the science is screwed up, so will the engineering.

    Sounds like they stopped using science and started kludging instead.

    Well, the solution was a kludge.... but it worked.

    Sometimes when the science isn't there, you just try things until you find something that works.. then you study why it worked and make it science.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 08:20:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "burch cassidy" <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in message news:20250715.122804.01312470@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurbatt@gmail.com> posted some news:4dcdQ.458279$V4j4.7325@fx46.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:17 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:105361o$3fck1$2@dont-email.me...
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and
    findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us
    know his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not
    possible to get the result they wanted.Ã, Can you see any benefit
    in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method.Ã, Science is
    not ever about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

    actually

    Another scooterism

    Rudy continues down the loquacious pathway to hypocrisy.

    You're just now figuring that out about Rudy?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 15 08:25:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
    chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse >>>>>>>> code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

    The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means? Do you understand what absolute means? You are off topic,
    troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because science
    has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty." And that's a
    true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science never "proves"
    anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually flat
    despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical, scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100% centainty.

    And here you just claimed they never did...

    Maybe Water is NOT H2O but actually something else?

    Same again, scooter. The earth being an oblate spheroid and water being comprised of hydrogen and oxygen are not "prove" by science, scooter. They are observed facts.

    Which is science and which you claim never makes such absolutes and thus according to you water could actually be made of something else.

    Well, that didn't take long to get you to refute your very own claims.

    Rudy loses yet again, and shows his claims can NOT be accepted as factual.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Scout on Tue Jul 15 09:22:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>> news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in Morse >>>>>>>>> code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>> 100%
    certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, >>>>>> troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100% centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical. In fact
    it's more oblong than a perfect sphere. The equator juts out notably. Or
    were you saying science says with absolute certainty that the shape of
    the Earth is pretty much what it is? There you have it, scooter
    disproved me. Science still has the IDENTITY PROPERTY: a = a. Green is
    green, a gas is a gas, a liquid is a liquid, a solid is a solid.
    Science DOES say this with absolute certainty and I am disproven. Thank goodness: this was getting loud.

    And here you just claimed they never did...

    Maybe Water is NOT H2O but actually something else?

    Same again, scooter. The earth being an oblate spheroid and water
    being comprised of hydrogen and oxygen are not "prove" by science,
    scooter. They are observed facts.

    Which is science and which you claim never makes such absolutes and thus according to you water could actually be made of something else.

    Well, that didn't take long to get you to refute your very own claims.

    Rudy loses yet again, and shows his claims can NOT be accepted as factual.





    --
    Hasbro

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  • From F. Georg McDuffee@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 08:21:56 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/15/2025 3:28 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurbatt@gmail.com> posted some news:4dcdQ.458279$V4j4.7325@fx46.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:17 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
    news:105361o$3fck1$2@dont-email.me...
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    news:mdk8omFpn4uU1@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

    You make it sound like science is mass hysteria.

    Science is all about serving the majority.

    WTF?


    Uh, no. Useful results derive from correct experiments and
    findings.

    No, I had a great chemistry teacher in middle school who let us
    know his Ph.D thesis was a failure - they showed thAT it was not
    possible to get the result they wanted.  Can you see any benefit
    in that?


    Clearly you do NOT understand the Scientific Method.  Science is
    not ever about 'getting the result you want' - that is anti-science.

    actually

    Another scooterism

    Rudy continues kicking the asses of dumbfuck right-wingnuts like scooter and me.
    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From a midget, a whore and a Chinaman go@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 08:23:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/15/2025 4:38 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurgatt@gmail.com> posted some news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>> news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in
    Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute or >>>>>>>> 100% certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100%
    means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off topic, >>>>>> troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    It's not a theory.

    So no science, then. That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.


    It's a scientific fact as

    No such thing, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger. There are just facts, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Tue Jul 15 13:47:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <karzott@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f2udQ.528413$W5Jb.53640@fx09.iad...
    On 7/15/2025 5:22 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:mdm3npF4jguU3@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:

    Free hint. The Saturn V engines has serious issues with this as they
    regularly blew up.

    *NO* Saturn rockets ever "blew up," scooter, you stupid fucking liar.

    Poor rudy, unable to understand the difference between engine and the ship.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Tue Jul 15 18:01:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    burch cassidy wrote:
    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> posted some news:mdn00nF952jU1@mid.individual.net:

    burch cassidy wrote:
    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurgatt@gmail.com> posted some
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>> or 100% certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are
    off topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    It's not a theory. It's a scientific fact as are the following.

    If we were both standing on the same sea level plane, the distance to
    the horizon for you would be 1.5 miles because of the earth's
    curvature and your diminutive height.

    For me, it would be 3.08 miles because I'm taller than you. You'd
    also see the sun set before I would if that's any consolation.

    What a burn. It took you an hour to come up with that.

    Na, a minute or so, basic trig. Same sort of calcs you'd use for cell
    tower LOS, MLRS or M155 firing solutions, others.

    Funny that you should mention cell Tower LOS. I signed a
    non-ddisclosure act for that job, so I will never tell you the name of
    the company.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 00:33:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com>
    posted some news:mdn00nF952jU1@mid.individual.net:

    burch cassidy wrote:
    On 14 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <kurgatt@gmail.com> posted some
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad:

    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote
    in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>> or 100% certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are
    off topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    It's not a theory. It's a scientific fact as are the following.

    If we were both standing on the same sea level plane, the distance to
    the horizon for you would be 1.5 miles because of the earth's
    curvature and your diminutive height.

    For me, it would be 3.08 miles because I'm taller than you. You'd
    also see the sun set before I would if that's any consolation.

    What a burn. It took you an hour to come up with that.

    Na, a minute or so, basic trig. Same sort of calcs you'd use for cell
    tower LOS, MLRS or M155 firing solutions, others.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 01:32:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com>
    posted some news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote
    in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off
    topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical. In fact
    it's more oblong than a perfect sphere. The equator juts out notably.
    Or were you saying science says with absolute certainty that the shape
    of the Earth is pretty much what it is? There you have it, scooter
    disproved me. Science still has the IDENTITY PROPERTY: a = a. Green
    is green, a gas is a gas, a liquid is a liquid, a solid is a solid.
    Science DOES say this with absolute certainty and I am disproven.
    Thank goodness: this was getting loud.

    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force to
    thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding. Earth spins
    a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic melt has to go
    somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat would.

    And here you just claimed they never did...

    Maybe Water is NOT H2O but actually something else?

    Same again, scooter. The earth being an oblate spheroid and water
    being comprised of hydrogen and oxygen are not "prove" by science,
    scooter. They are observed facts.

    Which is science and which you claim never makes such absolutes and
    thus according to you water could actually be made of something else.

    Well, that didn't take long to get you to refute your very own
    claims.

    Rudy loses yet again, and shows his claims can NOT be accepted as
    factual.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Wed Jul 16 03:30:08 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in news:20250716.013201.4726d1cc@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby"
    <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> posted some
    news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what
    100% means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are >>>>>>>> off topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical. In
    fact it's more oblong than a perfect sphere. The equator juts out
    notably. Or were you saying science says with absolute certainty that
    the shape of the Earth is pretty much what it is? There you have it,
    scooter disproved me. Science still has the IDENTITY PROPERTY: a =
    a. Green is green, a gas is a gas, a liquid is a liquid, a solid is a
    solid. Science DOES say this with absolute certainty and I am
    disproven. Thank goodness: this was getting loud.

    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force
    to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding. Earth
    spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic melt has to
    go somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat would.

    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.


    And here you just claimed they never did...

    Maybe Water is NOT H2O but actually something else?

    Same again, scooter. The earth being an oblate spheroid and water
    being comprised of hydrogen and oxygen are not "prove" by science,
    scooter. They are observed facts.

    Which is science and which you claim never makes such absolutes and
    thus according to you water could actually be made of something
    else.

    Well, that didn't take long to get you to refute your very own
    claims.

    Rudy loses yet again, and shows his claims can NOT be accepted as
    factual.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Jul 15 20:46:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Baxter wrote:
    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force
    to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding. Earth
    spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic melt has to
    go somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat would.
    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.



    The arctic melt goes downhill, into the Canadian lakes.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From AlleyCat@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 15 23:11:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/15/2025 4:32 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> posted some news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are off
    topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical. In fact
    it's more oblong than a perfect sphere. The equator juts out notably.
    Or were you saying science says with absolute certainty that the shape
    of the Earth is pretty much what it is? There you have it, scooter
    disproved me. Science still has the IDENTITY PROPERTY: a = a. Green
    is green, a gas is a gas, a liquid is a liquid, a solid is a solid.
    Science DOES say this with absolute certainty and I am disproven.
    Thank goodness: this was getting loud.

    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York

    Shut up, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 14:08:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 15 Jul 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:10576bu$hlfo$1@dont-email.me:

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in news:20250716.013201.4726d1cc@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby"
    <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> posted some
    news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

       The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what
    100% means? Do you understand what absolute means?  You are >>>>>>>>> off topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty." >>>>>>> And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical. In
    fact it's more oblong than a perfect sphere. The equator juts out
    notably. Or were you saying science says with absolute certainty that
    the shape of the Earth is pretty much what it is? There you have it,
    scooter disproved me. Science still has the IDENTITY PROPERTY: a =
    a. Green is green, a gas is a gas, a liquid is a liquid, a solid is a
    solid. Science DOES say this with absolute certainty and I am
    disproven. Thank goodness: this was getting loud.

    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force
    to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding. Earth
    spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic melt has to
    go somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat would.

    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.

    That was the simplest way to describe the effect without going into more
    detail involving physics discussion. Seems like you got it, job done.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 08:37:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "burch cassidy" <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in message news:20250716.013201.4726d1cc@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> posted some news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in
    message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

    Ã, Ã, The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?Ã, You are off
    topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical.

    spherical
    adjective
    spher·?i·?cal 'sfir-i-k?l 'sfer-
    Synonyms of spherical
    1: having the form of a sphere or of one of its segments

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spherical

    spherical
    Share
    /'sfir?k?l/
    /'sfir?k?l/
    IPA guide
    A ball is spherical; it's shaped like a sphere - a three-dimensional version
    of the two-dimensional circle.

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/spherical


    So, yes, the Earth meets the very definition of spherical (ie approximates a sphere).

    But did I say it was spherical? No, I said it was a globe.

    Dictionary
    Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
    globe
    /glob/
    noun
    1.the earth.
    "collecting goodies from all over the globe"
    Similar:
    world
    earth
    universe
    planet
    orb
    2. a spherical or rounded object.
    "orange trees clipped into giant globes"

    So, yes, the Earth is a globe, and that globe is spherical,

    Indeed if the Earth were the size of a billiard ball.. it's shape and tolerances would put it within WPA dimensional specifications for billiard balls

    http://www.curiouser.co.uk/facts/smooth_earth.htm

    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal intents
    and purposes is a sphere.

    it's more oblong than a perfect sphere. The equator juts out notably.
    Or were you saying science says with absolute certainty that the shape
    of the Earth is pretty much what it is? There you have it, scooter
    disproved me. Science still has the IDENTITY PROPERTY: a = a. Green
    is green, a gas is a gas, a liquid is a liquid, a solid is a solid.
    Science DOES say this with absolute certainty and I am disproven.
    Thank goodness: this was getting loud.

    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force to
    thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding. Earth spins
    a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic melt has to go
    somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat would.

    And here you just claimed they never did...

    Maybe Water is NOT H2O but actually something else?

    Same again, scooter. The earth being an oblate spheroid and water
    being comprised of hydrogen and oxygen are not "prove" by science,
    scooter. They are observed facts.

    Which is science and which you claim never makes such absolutes and
    thus according to you water could actually be made of something else.

    Well, that didn't take long to get you to refute your very own
    claims.

    Rudy loses yet again, and shows his claims can NOT be accepted as
    factual.

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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to Scout on Wed Jul 16 10:22:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Scout wrote:


    "burch cassidy" <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in message news:20250716.013201.4726d1cc@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com>
    posted some news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
    and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday.

    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

    Ã, Ã,  The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?Ã,  You are off >>>>>>>>> topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because
    science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty." >>>>>>> And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science
    never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually
    flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that?  The Earth is not spherical.

    spherical
    adjective
    spher·?i·?cal 'sfir-i-k?l  'sfer-
    Synonyms of spherical
    1: having the form of a sphere or of one of its segments

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spherical

    spherical
    Share
    /'sfir?k?l/
    /'sfir?k?l/
    IPA guide
    A ball is spherical; it's shaped like a sphere - a three-dimensional
    version of the two-dimensional circle.

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/spherical


    So, yes, the Earth meets the very definition of spherical (ie
    approximates a sphere).

    But did I say it was spherical? No, I said it was a globe.

    Dictionary
    Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
    globe
    /glob/
    noun
    1.the earth.
    "collecting goodies from all over the globe"
    Similar:
    world
    earth
    universe
    planet
    orb
    2. a spherical or rounded object.
    "orange trees clipped into giant globes"

    So, yes, the Earth is a globe, and that globe is spherical,

    Indeed if the Earth were the size of a billiard ball.. it's shape and tolerances would put it within WPA dimensional specifications for
    billiard balls

    http://www.curiouser.co.uk/facts/smooth_earth.htm

    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Wed Jul 16 10:57:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However, according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger.
    That difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where they
    launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly less fuel due to
    the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth
    at the equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit when the
    rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin. From the point of
    view of physics, the 47 km bulge is not insignificant from the
    standpoint of the energy needed to escape earth's gravity.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 10:34:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal intents >>>> and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I wouldn't >>> call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a valid
    scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However, according to BBC
    Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the equatorial and polar
    diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger. That >> difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where they launch rockets into
    outer space is advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as
    another benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth. There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Wed Jul 16 13:15:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a valid
    scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However, according to
    BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the equatorial and
    polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the
    larger. That difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter — i.e., it's
    negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where they
    launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape Canaveral or
    Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly less fuel due to
    the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the
    earth at the equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit
    when the rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth. There
    is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter vs the
    polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And the
    advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that are
    intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help. You understand a crowbar, right? The
    longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a satellite.
    This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce more force than a
    valley launch at the equator. It's okay though. I'm a Nazi filth too.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Wed Jul 16 18:43:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdq8hoFpsenU1@mid.individual.net:

    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain,"
    "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve
    from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi
    filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the
    equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial
    diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% of the polar
    diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit,
    the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an additional
    boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same direction as
    the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter
    vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And
    the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that
    are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help. You understand a crowbar, right? The
    longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a satellite.
    This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce more force than a
    valley launch at the equator. It's okay though. I'm a Nazi filth too.


    That's 42km DIAMETER - not Radius (21 km). And that's an average, so if
    you're launching near Sea Level, it's going to be less than that.
    ==========

    Offline Admiral_Ritt
    Substantial Advantages to Equatorial Ramp Launch
    « on: 12/30/2015 04:17 pm »
    We know a few of the standard reasons to do this.

    Near the Equator, there is close to a 1,000 MPH free boost.
    Near the Equator the atmosphere thins out faster due to Earth bulging distortion.
    For Missions in the solar system orbital Plane, No need to use extra
    fuel to maneuver you ship to this attitude.

    https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39184.0
    =========

    Do a google, nowhere do they talk about a boost because of elevation.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Wed Jul 16 11:58:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain," "Hisler,"
    "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a
    drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal intents
    and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I wouldn't
    call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a valid
    scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However, according to BBC >>>> Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the equatorial and polar >>>> diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger. That
    difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching Facility in
    French Guyana near the equator in South America where they launch rockets >>> into outer space is advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that >>> the rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the equator >>> and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the
    rockets an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same >>> direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth. There is no
    advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter vs the polar diameter,
    as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost
    exclusively for launches of satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right?  The longer the
    crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a satellite. This means that an
    elevated extra 42 km will produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles,
    which translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to the Kourou, French Guiana
    site over Cape Canaveral.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Wed Jul 16 14:17:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain,"
    "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve
    from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi
    filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal >>>>>>> intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I >>>>>> wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the
    equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial
    diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% of the polar
    diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit,
    the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an additional
    boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same direction as
    the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter
    vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And
    the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that
    are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right?  The
    longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a satellite.
    This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce more force than a
    valley launch at the equator. It's okay though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The advantage come
    from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big
    advantage for launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel
    is required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the launch
    angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't "get"
    what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the equator.
    The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to the Kourou,
    French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    If you are unwilling to listen to reason, please tell me why you find it advantageous to dismiss the bulge. Because clearly this is a religious
    issue for you. Why do you "want" the bulge not to matter?

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Wed Jul 16 12:34:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/16/2025 12:17 PM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain,"
    "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from >>>> Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal >>>>>>>> intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I >>>>>>> wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a valid >>>>>> scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However, according to BBC >>>>>> Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the equatorial and polar >>>>>> diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger. >>>>>> That difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching Facility
    in French Guyana near the equator in South America where they launch >>>>> rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan
    in that the rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the
    equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives
    the rockets an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the
    same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth. There is >>>> no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter vs the polar >>>> diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is >>>> almost exclusively for launches of satellites that are intended for
    geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right?  The longer
    the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a satellite. This means >>> that an elevated extra 42 km will produce more force than a valley launch at
    the equator. It's okay though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator being a
    minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The advantage come from the
    radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 miles, versus only 3,496.9 at
    28.3922° N latitude at Cape Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500
    miles, which translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the >> equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to
    geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust the
    position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already a lot closer to
    geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't "get" what the
    bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between polar radius/diameter/ >> circumference versus the same measure at the equator. The additional 26 miles
    is not what gives the advantage to the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape >> Canaveral.

    If you are unwilling to listen to reason,

    You have yet to post any. You're the fuckwit unable to understand reason.

    To repeat: it is *not* the difference between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus equatorial radius/diameter/circumference. It's the fact of the linear velocity at the equator being substantially higher than the linear velocity at any other latitude, *and* the site in French Guiana being nearly on the equator, so that little adjustment is needed to the path of the satellite to get it to geosynchronous orbit.

    You just don't know what the fuck you're bullshitting about.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Wed Jul 16 14:58:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 12:17 PM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman
    Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all
    normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, >>>>>>>> I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between
    the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% of >>>>>>> the polar diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit, >>>>>> the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an
    additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same
    direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter
    vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi.
    And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites
    that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right?
    The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a
    satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce more
    force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay though.  I'm a
    Nazi filth too.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator being
    a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The advantage
    come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 miles,
    versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape Canaveral. That's
    a difference of almost 500 miles, which translates to quite a lot of
    additional linear velocity at the equator versus at Cape Canaveral.
    But the other big advantage for launches to geostationary orbit is
    that not as much fuel is required to adjust the position of the
    satellite, because the launch angle is already a lot closer to
    geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't "get"
    what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between polar
    radius/diameter/ circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    If you are unwilling to listen to reason,

    You have yet to post any. You're the fuckwit unable to understand reason.

    To repeat: it is *not* the difference between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus equatorial radius/diameter/circumference. It's the fact of the linear velocity at
    the equator being substantially higher than the linear velocity at any
    other latitude, *and* the site in French Guiana being nearly on the
    equator, so that little adjustment is needed to the path of the
    satellite to get it to geosynchronous orbit.

    You just don't know what the fuck you're bullshitting about.

    Bullshit. You dumb asinine physics-deficient loser. 42 km is an
    AVERAGE. The equator is not a flat Tootsie Roll plateau. There are ups
    and downs and the ups can be quite a lot more than 42 km.

    Admit it, you want there to be no benefit. It's so obvious. I guess
    it's your natural pessimism, Luddite stance, or Christianity that you
    want tech to have no benefit from anything.

    --
    Hasbro

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Wed Jul 16 21:18:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in news:mdqejpFqqslU1@mid.individual.net:

    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 12:17 PM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and
    subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a >>>>>>>> valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between >>>>>>>> the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% >>>>>>>> of the polar diameter — i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket
    Launching Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South
    America where they launch rockets into outer space is
    advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the
    rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the
    equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth at the
    equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit when
    the rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial
    diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km
    / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of
    satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right?
    The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a
    satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce
    more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which
    translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the
    equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for
    launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is
    required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the
    launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between
    polar radius/diameter/ circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    If you are unwilling to listen to reason,

    You have yet to post any. You're the fuckwit unable to understand
    reason.

    To repeat: it is *not* the difference between polar
    radius/diameter/circumference versus equatorial
    radius/diameter/circumference. It's the fact of the linear velocity
    at the equator being substantially higher than the linear velocity at
    any other latitude, *and* the site in French Guiana being nearly on
    the equator, so that little adjustment is needed to the path of the
    satellite to get it to geosynchronous orbit.

    You just don't know what the fuck you're bullshitting about.

    Bullshit. You dumb asinine physics-deficient loser. 42 km is an
    AVERAGE. The equator is not a flat Tootsie Roll plateau. There are
    ups and downs and the ups can be quite a lot more than 42 km.

    Admit it, you want there to be no benefit. It's so obvious. I guess
    it's your natural pessimism, Luddite stance, or Christianity that you
    want tech to have no benefit from anything.


    in addition to being a POS you're stupid too.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 00:43:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:1058nr6$rdd7$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth,
    vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the
    equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial
    diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% of the polar
    diameter  i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit,
    the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an additional
    boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same direction as
    the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter vs
    the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that are
    intended for geostationary orbit.

    That's why you flunked accounting, you always disregard the pennies.
    Gravity at the equator is roughly 1% less than at the poles. For the
    average LEO rocket, that's a gravitational "credit" of around 23,000+ lbs
    at lift off.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rickp@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 01:14:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:1058urm$sgqv$2@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 12:17 PM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and
    subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all
    normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between
    the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33%
    of the polar diameter  i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another
    benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets
    an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the
    same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial
    diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km /
    26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of
    satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right?  >>>> The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a
    satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce
    more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay though. 
    I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which translates
    to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus
    at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to
    geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust
    the position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already a
    lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between
    polar radius/diameter/ circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    If you are unwilling to listen to reason,

    You have yet to post any. You're the fuckwit unable to understand
    reason.

    To repeat: it is *not* the difference between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus equatorial radius/diameter/circumference. It's the fact of the linear velocity at
    the equator being substantially higher than the linear velocity at any
    other latitude, *and* the site in French Guiana being nearly on the
    equator, so that little adjustment is needed to the path of the
    satellite to get it to geosynchronous orbit.

    You just don't know what the fuck you're bullshitting about.

    You for sure don't. You just grabbed some google scrapings and tossed
    them out there hoping the OP would give up and go away. He's got you
    pegged.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 17:42:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 3:43 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:1058nr6$rdd7$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain,"
    "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from
    Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth,
    vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between the
    equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the equatorial
    diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% of the polar
    diameter  i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit,
    the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an additional
    boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same direction as
    the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter vs
    the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And the
    advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that are
    intended for geostationary orbit.

    That's why you flunked accounting

    I never flunked anything, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft
    dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. And you don't know anything about rocket launches or achieving geosynchronous orbit — not a fucking thing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 03:04:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 15 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:10577b7$hqrd$1@dont-email.me:

    Baxter wrote:
    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force
    to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding.
    Earth spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic
    melt has to go somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat
    would.
    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.



    The arctic melt goes downhill, into the Canadian lakes.

    and oceans. It doesn't all shift to the equator as one would expect
    though. That's an area of centripetal interest.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud Frawley@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 16 18:23:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 6:04 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 15 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:10577b7$hqrd$1@dont-email.me:

    Baxter wrote:
    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force
    to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding.
    Earth spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic
    melt has to go somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat
    would.
    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.



    The arctic melt goes downhill, into the Canadian lakes.

    and oceans. It doesn't all shift to the equator as one would expect
    though.

    One would *not* expect that, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jul 16 20:52:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote:

    What the system is, is imperfect.

    Science keeps us abreast of current understanding of the natural
    world. As investigations deepen, understanding changes. That you
    hold science to be the last word demonstrates the high esteem you have
    for it's works.

    One way to get a Nobel is show a famous scientist is completely wrong. It is an incentive
    to keep things churning.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    Thank goodness my iron lung is working again! /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Hartung's DD-214@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 06:08:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain,"
    "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve
    from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi
    filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all
    normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator,
    I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between
    the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% of
    the polar diameter  i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit,
    the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an
    additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same
    direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter
    vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And
    the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that
    are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right? 
    The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a
    satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce more
    force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay though.  I'm a
    Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.
    =============
    AI Overview

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator being
    a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The advantage come
    from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape Canaveral. That's a difference
    of almost 500 miles, which translates to quite a lot of additional
    linear velocity at the equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other
    big advantage for launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much
    fuel is required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the
    launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't "get"
    what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the equator.
    The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to the Kourou,
    French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun
    a rounded swelling or protuberance that distorts a flat surface.

    So the Earth is flat again?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Thu Jul 17 08:16:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    What the system is, is imperfect.

    Science keeps us abreast of current understanding of the natural
    world. As investigations deepen, understanding changes. That you
    hold science to be the last word demonstrates the high esteem you have
    for it's works.

    One way to get a Nobel is show a famous scientist is completely wrong. It is an incentive to keep things churning.

    A big problem is that there is a continuum from pseudoscience to
    flawed science to airtight science.

    To cut through the chaff takes more diligence than dolts like crockpot
    can manage.

    --
    About the only thing we have left that actually discriminates in favor of
    the plain people is the stork.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jul 17 08:20:44 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 03:30:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote
    <snip>
    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force
    to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding. Earth
    spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic melt has to
    go somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat would.

    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.

    That's because the Earth is not 'oblong', it's a sphere with a slight
    bulge at its beltline due to centrifugal force. But the truly stupid
    part is that this bulge prevents flooding in the tropics.

    Flooding is routine in the tropics. If the land bulges out due to centrifugal force, so does the water.

    Climate science deniers don't understand that sea-level is not the same all over the earth, and not just because of the equatorial bulge.

    --
    The luck that is ordained for you will be coveted by others.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby on Thu Jul 17 09:08:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in message news:mdpuebFo828U1@mid.individual.net...
    Scout wrote:


    "burch cassidy" <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in message
    news:20250716.013201.4726d1cc@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com>
    posted some news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>> lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>> and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>> message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

    Ã, Ã, The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?Ã, You are off >>>>>>>>>> topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because >>>>>>>> science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty." >>>>>>>> And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science >>>>>>>> never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually >>>>>>> flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical,
    scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical.

    spherical
    adjective
    spher·?i·?cal 'sfir-i-k?l 'sfer-
    Synonyms of spherical
    1: having the form of a sphere or of one of its segments

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spherical

    spherical
    Share
    /'sfir?k?l/
    /'sfir?k?l/
    IPA guide
    A ball is spherical; it's shaped like a sphere - a three-dimensional
    version of the two-dimensional circle.

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/spherical


    So, yes, the Earth meets the very definition of spherical (ie
    approximates a sphere).

    But did I say it was spherical? No, I said it was a globe.

    Dictionary
    Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
    globe
    /glob/
    noun
    1.the earth.
    "collecting goodies from all over the globe"
    Similar:
    world
    earth
    universe
    planet
    orb
    2. a spherical or rounded object.
    "orange trees clipped into giant globes"

    So, yes, the Earth is a globe, and that globe is spherical,

    Indeed if the Earth were the size of a billiard ball.. it's shape and
    tolerances would put it within WPA dimensional specifications for
    billiard balls

    http://www.curiouser.co.uk/facts/smooth_earth.htm

    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal intents
    and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Bulge? Virtually undetectable in the grand scheme of things, you're talking about a difference of about 0.1-0.15% difference.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Thu Jul 17 09:11:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kvoratt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:UIPdQ.1130379$9SBb.716705@fx18.iad...
    On 7/16/2025 8:22 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
    frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child
    molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> >>>> posted some news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
    gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>> lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>> and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>> message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with absolute >>>>>>>>>>>>> or 100%
    certainty."

    Ã, Ã, The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what 100% >>>>>>>>>>> means? Do you understand what absolute means?Ã, You are off >>>>>>>>>>> topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong.


    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because >>>>>>>>> science has never said anything with absolute or 100% certainty." >>>>>>>>> And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science >>>>>>>>> never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually >>>>>>>> flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical, >>>>>>> scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical.

    spherical
    adjective

    [dictionary bullshit erased]

    Because Rudy can't be bothered with the facts, or what words ACTUALLY mean.



    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible.

    Oh, well if we are to be precise as possible.. then you had better step up
    your game because most of the time your precision is such that we would have
    to consider a cube to be a sphere.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 07:07:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas McCain,"
    "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve
    from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi
    filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all
    normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, >>>>>>> I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between
    the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% of
    the polar diameter  i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another benefit,
    the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets an
    additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the same
    direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial diameter
    vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / 26 mi. And
    the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of satellites that
    are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar, right?Â
    The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the object, a
    satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will produce more
    force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay though.  I'm a
    Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator being
    a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The advantage come
    from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 miles, versus only
    3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape Canaveral. That's a difference
    of almost 500 miles, which translates to quite a lot of additional
    linear velocity at the equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other
    big advantage for launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much
    fuel is required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the
    launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't "get"
    what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between polar
    radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the equator.
    The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to the Kourou,
    French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cunt Flaps Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 17 08:08:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics

    [Default] "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

    Because literate and knowledgeable people don't need dictionaries, scooter.


    "Dictionaries are for illiterate uneducated fucks"
    -Rudy, self-admitted illiterate, uneducated fuck
    as he proceeds to use a dictionary later in the post. Message-ID: <lclKI.22418$7H7.21328@fx42.iad>

    Thanks for admitting you're an illiterate uneducated fuck, Cunt Flaps!

    ROFLMAO!!!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Thu Jul 17 15:16:47 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and
    subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all
    normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a
    valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between
    the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33%
    of the polar diameter  i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another
    benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets
    an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the
    same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial
    diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km /
    26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of
    satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar,
    right? The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will
    produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which translates
    to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus
    at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to
    geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust
    the position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already a
    lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between
    polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.


    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate spheroid. ==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Jul 17 08:50:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/17/2025 8:16 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and
    subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a >>>>>>>> valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between >>>>>>>> the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% >>>>>>>> of the polar diameter  i.e., it's negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching >>>>>>> Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where >>>>>>> they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly >>>>>>> less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another
    benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets
    an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the
    same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial
    diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / >>>>>> 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of
    satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar,
    right? The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will
    produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which translates
    to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus
    at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to
    geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust
    the position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already a
    lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between
    polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.


    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate spheroid. ==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    No, you stupid fucking moron. The radius that matters is the radius of the circle spinning around the earth's axis, *not* the radius to the center of the earth. The earth spins around its axis, not around the center of the planet. The
    radius of the circle centered around the axis is 500 miles greater than the radius of the circle at the latitude of Cape Canaveral. If you're standing exactly on one of the poles, you have *zero* linear velocity relative to the axis of the earth, because the radius of your position on the pole to the axis is exactly zero.

    The eastward linear velocity of an object at Cape Canaveral is about 408.8 m/s, or 914.5 mph, while the linear velocity at the Kourou launch site in French Guiana is about 463.3 m/s, or 1036.4 mph. That's a difference of over 100mph faster at Kourou. It's that increase in linear velocity that gives an advantage to launching from Kourou rather than from Cape Canaveral.

    Just keep your fucking mouth shut, Bugster, about things of which you are entirely ignorant. That means you need to keep your fucking mouth shut about nearly everything.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Thu Jul 17 09:04:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 03:30:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote
    <snip>
    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal force
    to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of flooding. Earth >>>> spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator. Excess arctic melt has to
    go somewhere, so it accumulates where you'd expect fat would.

    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.

    That's because the Earth is not 'oblong', it's a sphere with a slight
    bulge at its beltline due to centrifugal force. But the truly stupid
    part is that this bulge prevents flooding in the tropics.

    Flooding is routine in the tropics. If the land bulges out due to
    centrifugal force, so does the water.

    Climate science deniers don't understand that sea-level is not the same all over the earth, and not just because of the equatorial bulge.


    <https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/87189/seafloor-features-are-revealed-by-the-gravity-field>

    Seafloor Features Are Revealed by the Gravity Field

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Jul 17 09:08:02 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator. The latitude through
    the cape is not a great circle.

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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Klaus Schadenfreude on Thu Jul 17 12:52:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kvoratt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:IB7eQ.1258175$9qCb.421508@fx15.iad...
    On 7/17/2025 6:11 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kvoratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:UIPdQ.1130379$9SBb.716705@fx18.iad...
    On 7/16/2025 8:22 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
    frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:



    Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child
    molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 15 Jul 2025, "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby"
    <wichitajayhawks@msn.com>
    posted some news:mdn6gtFa7f5U1@mid.individual.net:

    Scout wrote:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <kurgatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:XqcdQ.110199$1c77.67158@fx04.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 10:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>> and
    lied:


    "Klaus Schadenfreude" <klobatt@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:QradQ.152360$YCgd.130938@fx44.iad...
    On 7/14/2025 5:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>>>> and lied:


    "Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>> message news:mddioaFm560U1@mid.individual.net...
    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    "Lane \"Stonehowler\" Waldby" <wichitajayhawks@msn.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in news:mdcfrvFgejgU3@mid.individual.net:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote this post while blinking in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morse code:

    Governor Swill wrote:

    "That's because science has never
    proven anything."
    Skeeter, Aug 15, 2923
    https://tinyurl.com/3p3t8uj5

    This is a fact. To be certain, I said it yesterday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Your posting here via a computer network puts the LIE to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
    statement.

    Here's what I said:

    "That's because science has never said anything with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolute
    or 100%
    certainty."

    Ã, Ã, The very fact you are posting on
    this network is proof that science
    works.

    When did I say science doesn't work? Do you understand what >>>>>>>>>>>>> 100%
    means? Do you understand what absolute means?Ã, You are off >>>>>>>>>>>>> topic, troll.

    Do you understand what "never" means?

    Because if you're going to say "never" you would be wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>

    No, scooter, he's not wrong. The statement was, "That's because >>>>>>>>>>> science has never said anything with absolute or 100%
    certainty."
    And that's a true statement, scooter. In fact, scooter, science >>>>>>>>>>> never "proves" anything at all.

    So you think there is some possibility that the Earth is actually >>>>>>>>>> flat despite the all the science that proves it's a globe?

    What scientific theory predicted the earth is (mostly) spherical, >>>>>>>>> scooter? You fucking dope.

    So you are saying that science is saying an absolute or 100%
    centainty.

    Where do you see him saying that? The Earth is not spherical.

    spherical
    adjective

    [dictionary bullshit erased]

    Because

    Because literate and knowledgeable people don't need dictionaries,
    scooter.

    I only need a dictionary to show you and everyone else that you don't understand the meaning of the words you use.

    It's called a cite.

    When you need to post a dictionary definition, scooter, you're *admitting*
    to having a 7th-rate intellect.

    Well, I'm admitting YOU have a 7th-rate intellect since otherwise I wouldn't need to show the meaning of the words you use are NOT what you seem to think they mean.

    Of course, this does explain why you are wrong about virtually everything because you don't even know what you're saying.


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all normal
    intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the equator, I
    wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a valid
    scientific quest to be as precise as possible.

    Oh, well if we are to be precise as possible.. then you had better step
    up your game because most of the time your precision is

    superb. Yes, scooter, it is. Thanks for noticing!

    To repeat: the so-called "bulge" has nothing to do with close proximity to the equator being advantageous to space launches.

    Here's another helpful repetition: Saturn V rocket engines did not "regularly" blow up — *one* known instance on a test platform — and there were *no* catastrophic in-flight failures on any launch, and *no* failures
    at all on any crewed mission. You're a fuck-up, scooter.

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Thu Jul 17 12:42:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity. The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to the earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator. The latitude
    through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the earth. The linear velocity of an
    object at or near the equator is significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther from the equator due to the greater length of the radius from
    the surface to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating linear velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = ω * r, where 'v' is linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity in radians, and 'r' is the radius of the circle. The angular velocity of earth's rotation is *constant* for the entire planet — obviously, except to Bugster — and it is equal to 7.2921159 × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph, while linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra 100+ mph that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at Kourou. If the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary orbit, meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then being closer to the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and thus less fuel, to achieve the desired orbit. That's a major additional benefit of launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to understand this.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Thu Jul 17 21:40:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b64a$1d1r7$4@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 8:16 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and >>>>>>> subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in >>>>>>>>> a valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible.
    However, according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the
    difference between the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km >>>>>>>>> / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger. That
    difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter  i.e., it's >>>>>>>>> negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket
    Launching Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South
    America where they launch rockets into outer space is
    advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the
    rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the >>>>>>>> equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth at the
    equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit when
    the rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi
    filth. There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the
    equatorial diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is >>>>>>> only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for
    launches of satellites that are intended for geostationary
    orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar,
    right? The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will
    produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger
    and Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which
    translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the
    equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for
    launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is
    required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the
    launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference
    between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same
    measure at the equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives
    the advantage to the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape
    Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.


    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate
    spheroid. ==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    No, you stupid fucking moron. The radius that matters is the radius of
    the circle spinning around the earth's axis, *not* the radius to the
    center of the earth. The earth spins around its axis, not around the
    center of the planet. The radius of the circle centered around the
    axis is 500 miles greater than the radius of the circle at the
    latitude of Cape Canaveral. If you're standing exactly on one of the
    poles, you have *zero* linear velocity relative to the axis of the
    earth, because the radius of your position on the pole to the axis is
    exactly zero.

    The eastward linear velocity of an object at Cape Canaveral is about
    408.8 m/s, or 914.5 mph, while the linear velocity at the Kourou
    launch site in French Guiana is about 463.3 m/s, or 1036.4 mph. That's
    a difference of over 100mph faster at Kourou. It's that increase in
    linear velocity that gives an advantage to launching from Kourou
    rather than from Cape Canaveral.

    Just keep your fucking mouth shut, Bugster, about things of which you
    are entirely ignorant. That means you need to keep your fucking mouth
    shut about nearly everything.


    You're an idiot.
    ============
    Earth's spin axis drifts slowly around the poles; the farthest away it
    has wobbled since observations began is 37 feet (12 meters). These
    wobbles don't affect our daily life, but they must be taken into account
    to get accurate results from GPS, Earth-observing satellites and
    observatories on the ground.

    https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-study-solves-two-mysteries-about- wobbling-earth/
    ===========

    What part of "slowly" do you not understand

    The difference in velocity between Cape Canaveral and Kourou is due to
    Latitude - not to any wobble.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Thu Jul 17 21:51:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity. The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to the
    earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator.
    The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand
    that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the
    earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near the equator is significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther from
    the equator due to the greater length of the radius from the surface
    to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating linear
    velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = ω * r, where 'v' is
    linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity in radians, and 'r' is the
    radius of the circle. The angular velocity of earth's rotation is
    *constant* for the entire planet — obviously, except to Bugster —
    and it is equal to 7.2921159 × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph, while
    linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra 100+ mph
    that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at Kourou. If
    the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary orbit, meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then being closer to
    the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and thus less fuel, to
    achieve the desired orbit. That's a major additional benefit of
    launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Jul 17 16:10:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/17/2025 2:51 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity. The
    difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to the
    earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator.
    The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand
    that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the
    earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near the equator is
    significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther from
    the equator due to the greater length of the radius from the surface
    to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating linear
    velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = ω * r, where 'v' is
    linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity in radians, and 'r' is the
    radius of the circle. The angular velocity of earth's rotation is
    *constant* for the entire planet — obviously, except to Bugster —
    and it is equal to 7.2921159 × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph, while
    linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra 100+ mph
    that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at Kourou. If
    the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary orbit, meaning
    geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then being closer to
    the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and thus less fuel, to
    achieve the desired orbit. That's a major additional benefit of
    launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, Bugster, it's not even close. You reveal you don't know a fucking thing about angular velocity being converted to linear velocity. You insisted, stupidly, that launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule difference between the equatorial and polar radii. It's not. You're a fucking idiot.

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Thu Jul 17 16:06:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/17/2025 2:40 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b64a$1d1r7$4@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 8:16 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and >>>>>>>> subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in >>>>>>>>>> a valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible.
    However, according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the
    difference between the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km >>>>>>>>>> / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger. That
    difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter  i.e., it's >>>>>>>>>> negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket
    Launching Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South >>>>>>>>> America where they launch rockets into outer space is
    advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the
    rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the >>>>>>>>> equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth at the >>>>>>>>> equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit when >>>>>>>>> the rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi
    filth. There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the
    equatorial diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is >>>>>>>> only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for >>>>>>>> launches of satellites that are intended for geostationary
    orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar,
    right? The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will >>>>>>> produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay >>>>>>> though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger
    and Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 >>>>>> miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which
    translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the
    equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for
    launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is
    required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the
    launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference
    between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same
    measure at the equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives
    the advantage to the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape
    Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.


    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate
    spheroid. ==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    No, you stupid fucking moron. The radius that matters is the radius of
    the circle spinning around the earth's axis, *not* the radius to the
    center of the earth. The earth spins around its axis, not around the
    center of the planet. The radius of the circle centered around the
    axis is 500 miles greater than the radius of the circle at the
    latitude of Cape Canaveral. If you're standing exactly on one of the
    poles, you have *zero* linear velocity relative to the axis of the
    earth, because the radius of your position on the pole to the axis is
    exactly zero.

    The eastward linear velocity of an object at Cape Canaveral is about
    408.8 m/s, or 914.5 mph, while the linear velocity at the Kourou
    launch site in French Guiana is about 463.3 m/s, or 1036.4 mph. That's
    a difference of over 100mph faster at Kourou. It's that increase in
    linear velocity that gives an advantage to launching from Kourou
    rather than from Cape Canaveral.

    Just keep your fucking mouth shut, Bugster, about things of which you
    are entirely ignorant. That means you need to keep your fucking mouth
    shut about nearly everything.


    You're an idiot.
    ============
    Earth's spin axis drifts slowly around the poles

    Nothing to do with different linear velocity being higher at the equator than it
    is away from it.


    The difference in velocity between Cape Canaveral and Kourou is due to Latitude - not to any wobble.

    *Exactly*, Bugster, you stupid fucktard. That's what I've been saying.

    You just don't know what the *fuck* you're bullshitting about, Bugster.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Timmy's Tampons@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 02:35:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 17 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:105b752$1elum$2@dont-email.me:

    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator.
    The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Baxter's head spins in great circles when you talk like that.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 03:24:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:105cebo$1r98d$1@dont-email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bvse$1k03u$3@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 2:51 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral
    is 0 miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity.
    The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to
    the earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the
    equator. The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand
    that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the
    earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near the equator is
    significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther
    from the equator due to the greater length of the radius from the
    surface to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating
    linear velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = ω * r,
    where 'v' is linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity in radians,
    and 'r' is the radius of the circle. The angular velocity of
    earth's rotation is *constant* for the entire planet — obviously,
    except to Bugster — and it is equal to 7.2921159 × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph,
    while linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra
    100+ mph that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at
    Kourou. If the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary
    orbit, meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then
    being closer to the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and
    thus less fuel, to achieve the desired orbit. That's a major
    additional benefit of launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, Bugster, it's not even close. You reveal you don't know a fucking
    thing about angular velocity being converted to linear velocity. You
    insisted, stupidly, that launches were easier near the equator due to
    the minuscule difference between the equatorial and polar radii. It's
    not. You're a fucking idiot.


    If you were talking about oblate spheroid/etc. If you meant Latitude
    why didn't you use that word? And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule difference between the equatorial and polar radii". Again, right there, when you
    say "equatorial and polar radii" are you talking about Latitude or
    center of earth?


    If you're saying "minuscule difference" in radii, then you're talking
    about center of Earth, and I was entirely on point and you can take your
    flames and stick them up your ass.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Fri Jul 18 03:17:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bvse$1k03u$3@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 2:51 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is
    0 miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity.
    The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to
    the earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator.
    The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand
    that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the
    earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near the equator is
    significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther
    from the equator due to the greater length of the radius from the
    surface to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating
    linear velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = ω * r, where
    'v' is linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity in radians, and 'r'
    is the radius of the circle. The angular velocity of earth's
    rotation is *constant* for the entire planet — obviously, except
    to Bugster — and it is equal to 7.2921159 × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph,
    while linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra
    100+ mph that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at
    Kourou. If the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary orbit,
    meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then being
    closer to the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and thus
    less fuel, to achieve the desired orbit. That's a major additional
    benefit of launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, Bugster, it's not even close. You reveal you don't know a fucking
    thing about angular velocity being converted to linear velocity. You insisted, stupidly, that launches were easier near the equator due to
    the minuscule difference between the equatorial and polar radii. It's
    not. You're a fucking idiot.


    If you were talking about oblate spheroid/etc. If you meant Latitude why didn't you use that word? And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule difference
    between the equatorial and polar radii". Again, right there, when you
    say "equatorial and polar radii" are you talking about Latitude or center
    of earth?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Hartung's DD-214@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 07:43:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 17 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> is too stupid to realize
    his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!


    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries,

    Rudy gets smacked with another fact and runs away.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 08:47:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 17 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:105b6tu$1elum$1@dont-email.me:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 03:30:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote
    <snip>
    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal
    force to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of
    flooding. Earth spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator.
    Excess arctic melt has to go somewhere, so it accumulates where
    you'd expect fat would.

    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.

    That's because the Earth is not 'oblong', it's a sphere with a
    slight bulge at its beltline due to centrifugal force. But the
    truly stupid part is that this bulge prevents flooding in the
    tropics.

    Flooding is routine in the tropics. If the land bulges out due to
    centrifugal force, so does the water.

    Climate science deniers don't understand that sea-level is not the
    same all over the earth, and not just because of the equatorial
    bulge.


    <https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/87189/seafloor-features-are-re >vealed-by-the-gravity-field>

    Seafloor Features Are Revealed by the Gravity Field

    "Trump administration dismisses nearly 400 scientists working on congressionally mandated national climate report"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-climate-assessment-report-scientists-fired/

    They'll have to go try selling their biased modeling to the private
    sector now instead of bilking tax payers. Maybe the NYT will buy into
    it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From burch cassidy@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 09:45:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 17 Jul 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:105b44v$1dvqr$2@dont-email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and
    subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a >>>>>>>> valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However,
    according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between >>>>>>>> the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% >>>>>>>> of the polar diameter  i.e., it's negligible. >>>>>>>
    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching >>>>>>> Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where >>>>>>> they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape
    Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly >>>>>>> less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another
    benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets
    an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the
    same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth.
    There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial
    diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / >>>>>> 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of
    satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar,
    right? The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will
    produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which translates
    to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus
    at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to
    geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust
    the position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already a
    lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between
    polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.

    Rudy is an ignoramus

    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate spheroid.
    ==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    Your AI says you're wrong.

    ==============
    AI Overview
    The Earth is not a perfect sphere; it bulges at the equator. Therefore,
    the radius at the equator is greater than the radius at Cape Canaveral's latitude. The difference in radius is approximately 22 kilometers.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michae1 A Terre11@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 11:23:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 17 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:105b64a$1d1r7$4@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 8:16 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and >>>>>>> subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in >>>>>>>>> a valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible.
    However, according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the
    difference between the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km >>>>>>>>> / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger. That
    difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter  i.e., it's
    negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket
    Launching Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South
    America where they launch rockets into outer space is
    advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the
    rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the >>>>>>>> equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth at the
    equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit when
    the rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi
    filth. There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the
    equatorial diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is >>>>>>> only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for
    launches of satellites that are intended for geostationary
    orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar,
    right? The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will
    produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger
    and Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which
    translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the
    equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for
    launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is
    required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the
    launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference
    between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same
    measure at the equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives
    the advantage to the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape
    Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.


    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate
    spheroid. ==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    No, you stupid fucking moron. The radius that matters is the radius of
    the circle spinning around the earth's axis, *not* the radius to the
    center of the earth. The earth spins around its axis, not around the
    center of the planet. The radius of the circle centered around the
    axis is 500 miles greater than the radius of the circle at the
    latitude of Cape Canaveral. If you're standing exactly on one of the
    poles, you have *zero* linear velocity relative to the axis of the
    earth, because the radius of your position on the pole to the axis is
    exactly zero.

    The eastward linear velocity of an object at Cape Canaveral is about
    408.8 m/s, or 914.5 mph, while the linear velocity at the Kourou
    launch site in French Guiana is about 463.3 m/s, or 1036.4 mph. That's
    a difference of over 100mph faster at Kourou. It's that increase in
    linear velocity that gives an advantage to launching from Kourou
    rather than from Cape Canaveral.

    Just keep your fucking mouth shut, Bugster, about things of which you
    are entirely ignorant. That means you need to keep your fucking mouth
    shut about nearly everything.

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 07:54:43 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:105br9m$1iqrp$2@dont-email.me...
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity. The
    difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to the
    earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator.
    The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand
    that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the
    earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near the equator is
    significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther from
    the equator due to the greater length of the radius from the surface
    to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating linear
    velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = Ï? * r, where 'v' is
    linear velocity, 'Ï?' is angular velocity in radians, and 'r' is the
    radius of the circle. The angular velocity of earth's rotation is
    *constant* for the entire planet â?" obviously, except to Bugster â?"
    and it is equal to 7.2921159 Ã- 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph, while
    linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra 100+ mph
    that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at Kourou. If
    the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary orbit, meaning
    geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then being closer to
    the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and thus less fuel, to
    achieve the desired orbit. That's a major additional benefit of
    launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, a spelling flame is a minor issue with typing.. what we have above is
    the presentation of material facts directly relevant to the discussion.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 07:58:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Hartung's DD-214" <not-in-arizona@rudy.invalid> wrote in message news:20250718.074316.c4bf1c2f@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    On 17 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> is too stupid to realize
    his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!


    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries,

    Rudy gets smacked with another fact and runs away.

    Rudy hates when people prove he doesn't even understand the meaning of the words he uses.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 07:56:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:105ceoo$1r98d$4@dont-email.me...
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:105cebo$1r98d$1@dont-email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bvse$1k03u$3@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 2:51 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral
    is 0 miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity.
    The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to
    the earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the
    equator. The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand
    that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the
    earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near the equator is
    significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther
    from the equator due to the greater length of the radius from the
    surface to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating
    linear velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = Ï? * r,
    where 'v' is linear velocity, 'Ï?' is angular velocity in radians,
    and 'r' is the radius of the circle. The angular velocity of
    earth's rotation is *constant* for the entire planet â?" obviously,
    except to Bugster â?" and it is equal to 7.2921159 Ã- 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph,
    while linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra
    100+ mph that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at
    Kourou. If the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary
    orbit, meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then
    being closer to the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and
    thus less fuel, to achieve the desired orbit. That's a major
    additional benefit of launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, Bugster, it's not even close. You reveal you don't know a fucking
    thing about angular velocity being converted to linear velocity. You
    insisted, stupidly, that launches were easier near the equator due to
    the minuscule difference between the equatorial and polar radii. It's
    not. You're a fucking idiot.


    If you were talking about oblate spheroid/etc. If you meant Latitude
    why didn't you use that word? And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule difference
    between the equatorial and polar radii". Again, right there, when you
    say "equatorial and polar radii" are you talking about Latitude or
    center of earth?


    If you're saying "minuscule difference" in radii, then you're talking
    about center of Earth, and I was entirely on point and you can take your flames and stick them up your ass.

    And even when presented with clear concise facts that show why that isn't
    the issue and why.. Baxter doubles down on his stupidity.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 07:57:40 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:105bqjl$1iqrp$1@dont-email.me...
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b64a$1d1r7$4@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 8:16 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and >>>>>>>> subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in >>>>>>>>>> a valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible.
    However, according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the
    difference between the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km >>>>>>>>>> / 26 mi., the equatorial diameter being the larger. That
    difference is 0.33% of the polar diameter ââ,¬â? i.e., it's >>>>>>>>>> negligible.

    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket
    Launching Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South >>>>>>>>> America where they launch rockets into outer space is
    advantageous over Cape Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the
    rockets require significantly less fuel due to the bulge at the >>>>>>>>> equator and, as another benefit, the spin of the earth at the >>>>>>>>> equator gives the rockets an additional boost into orbit when >>>>>>>>> the rocket is aimed in the same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi
    filth. There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the
    equatorial diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is >>>>>>>> only 40 km / 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for >>>>>>>> launches of satellites that are intended for geostationary
    orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.Ã, You understand a crowbar,
    right?Ã, The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will >>>>>>> produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay >>>>>>> though.Ã, I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger
    and Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2 >>>>>> miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922Ã,° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which
    translates to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the
    equator versus at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for
    launches to geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is
    required to adjust the position of the satellite, because the
    launch angle is already a lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference
    between polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same
    measure at the equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives
    the advantage to the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape
    Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.


    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate
    spheroid. ==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    No, you stupid fucking moron. The radius that matters is the radius of
    the circle spinning around the earth's axis, *not* the radius to the
    center of the earth. The earth spins around its axis, not around the
    center of the planet. The radius of the circle centered around the
    axis is 500 miles greater than the radius of the circle at the
    latitude of Cape Canaveral. If you're standing exactly on one of the
    poles, you have *zero* linear velocity relative to the axis of the
    earth, because the radius of your position on the pole to the axis is
    exactly zero.

    The eastward linear velocity of an object at Cape Canaveral is about
    408.8 m/s, or 914.5 mph, while the linear velocity at the Kourou
    launch site in French Guiana is about 463.3 m/s, or 1036.4 mph. That's
    a difference of over 100mph faster at Kourou. It's that increase in
    linear velocity that gives an advantage to launching from Kourou
    rather than from Cape Canaveral.

    Just keep your fucking mouth shut, Bugster, about things of which you
    are entirely ignorant. That means you need to keep your fucking mouth
    shut about nearly everything.


    You're an idiot.
    ============
    Earth's spin axis drifts slowly around the poles; the farthest away it
    has wobbled since observations began is 37 feet (12 meters). These
    wobbles don't affect our daily life, but they must be taken into account
    to get accurate results from GPS, Earth-observing satellites and observatories on the ground.

    https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasa-study-solves-two-mysteries-about- wobbling-earth/
    ===========

    What part of "slowly" do you not understand

    The difference in velocity between Cape Canaveral and Kourou is due to Latitude - not to any wobble.

    And just like that Baxter tries to change what is being discussed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 07:59:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    "burch cassidy" <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in message news:20250718.094554.b0e178f9@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    On 17 Jul 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:105b44v$1dvqr$2@dont-email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and >>>>>>> subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a >>>>>>>>> valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However, >>>>>>>>> according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between >>>>>>>>> the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% >>>>>>>>> of the polar diameter Ãf¢ââ?s‰â,¬Â i.e., it's negligible. >>>>>>>>
    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket Launching >>>>>>>> Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America where >>>>>>>> they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape >>>>>>>> Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require significantly >>>>>>>> less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another
    benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets >>>>>>>> an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the >>>>>>>> same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth. >>>>>>> There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial
    diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km / >>>>>>> 26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of
    satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.Ãfâ?sÃ, You understand a crowbar,
    right?Ãfâ?s The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will
    produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.Ãfâ?sÃ, I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922Ãfâ?sÃ,° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which translates >>>>> to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus
    at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to
    geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust
    the position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already a >>>>> lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between
    polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.

    Rudy is an ignoramus

    Careful, if you keep using words like that Rudy might want to look them up
    in a dictionary..... if he only knew how.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 08:01:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/17/2025 8:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bvse$1k03u$3@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 2:51 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is >>>>>> 0 miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity.
    The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator *to
    the earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the equator.
    The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to understand
    that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the center of the
    earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near the equator is
    significantly higher than that of an object at a latitude farther
    from the equator due to the greater length of the radius from the
    surface to the axis at the equator. The formula for calculating
    linear velocity at a point on a rotating circle is v = ω * r, where
    'v' is linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity in radians, and 'r'
    is the radius of the circle. The angular velocity of earth's
    rotation is *constant* for the entire planet — obviously, except
    to Bugster — and it is equal to 7.2921159 × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph,
    while linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that extra
    100+ mph that provides the main advantage in launching rockets at
    Kourou. If the satellite is intended to achieve geostationary orbit,
    meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over the equator, then being
    closer to the equator at launch means less maneuvering, and thus
    less fuel, to achieve the desired orbit. That's a major additional
    benefit of launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, Bugster, it's not even close. You reveal you don't know a fucking
    thing about angular velocity being converted to linear velocity. You
    insisted, stupidly, that launches were easier near the equator due to
    the minuscule difference between the equatorial and polar radii. It's
    not. You're a fucking idiot.


    If you were talking about oblate spheroid/etc.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid old demented shitwipe, because that's what the earth is.

    If you meant Latitude why didn't you use that word?

    I *did* use the word, Bugster, you stupid shitworm.


    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    Again, right there, when you
    say "equatorial and polar radii" are you talking about Latitude or center
    of earth?

    I made that crystal clear, Bugster, you stupid shitworm. But it wouldn't make any difference to you, because you don't know the difference between you 85-year-old flabby ass and your florid dumb-fuck face.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Fri Jul 18 15:12:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in news:20250718.084705.c76316d2@msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

    On 17 Jul 2025, "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:105b6tu$1elum$1@dont-email.me:

    Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
    Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 03:30:08 -0000 (UTC), Baxter wrote:

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote
    <snip>
    Climatists in Oregon, California and New York have centrifugal
    force to thank for the "bulge" at the middle and absence of
    flooding. Earth spins a bit over 1,000 MPH at the equator.
    Excess arctic melt has to go somewhere, so it accumulates where
    you'd expect fat would.

    Somehow that makes you sound like an idiot.

    That's because the Earth is not 'oblong', it's a sphere with a
    slight bulge at its beltline due to centrifugal force. But the
    truly stupid part is that this bulge prevents flooding in the
    tropics.

    Flooding is routine in the tropics. If the land bulges out due to
    centrifugal force, so does the water.

    Climate science deniers don't understand that sea-level is not the
    same all over the earth, and not just because of the equatorial
    bulge.


    <https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/87189/seafloor-features-are-r
    e vealed-by-the-gravity-field>

    Seafloor Features Are Revealed by the Gravity Field

    "Trump administration dismisses nearly 400 scientists working on congressionally mandated national climate report"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-climate-assessment-report-scienti sts-fired/

    They'll have to go try selling their biased modeling to the private
    sector now instead of bilking tax payers. Maybe the NYT will buy into
    it.


    Meanwhile you get flooded out.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 18 08:11:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!

    On 7/17/2025 10:43 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

    On 17 Jul 2025, J Carlson wrote:


    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries,

    Rudy kicks the living shit out of scooter and me again.

    That's right, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Fri Jul 18 15:26:26 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dnl3$2438l$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 8:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bvse$1k03u$3@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 2:51 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral
    is 0 miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity.
    The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator
    *to the earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the
    equator. The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to
    understand that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the
    center of the earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near
    the equator is significantly higher than that of an object at a
    latitude farther from the equator due to the greater length of the
    radius from the surface to the axis at the equator. The formula
    for calculating linear velocity at a point on a rotating circle is
    v = ω * r, where 'v' is linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity
    in radians, and 'r' is the radius of the circle. The angular
    velocity of earth's rotation is *constant* for the entire planet
    — obviously, except to Bugster — and it is equal to 7.2921159
    × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph,
    while linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that
    extra 100+ mph that provides the main advantage in launching
    rockets at Kourou. If the satellite is intended to achieve
    geostationary orbit, meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over
    the equator, then being closer to the equator at launch means less
    maneuvering, and thus less fuel, to achieve the desired orbit.
    That's a major additional benefit of launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, Bugster, it's not even close. You reveal you don't know a
    fucking thing about angular velocity being converted to linear
    velocity. You insisted, stupidly, that launches were easier near the
    equator due to the minuscule difference between the equatorial and
    polar radii. It's not. You're a fucking idiot.


    If you were talking about oblate spheroid/etc.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid old demented shitwipe, because that's what
    the earth is.

    Which has nothing to do with Latitude and everything to do with center.

    If you meant Latitude why didn't you use that word?

    I *did* use the word, Bugster, you stupid shitworm.

    Nope.


    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.


    Again, right there, when you
    say "equatorial and polar radii" are you talking about Latitude or
    center of earth?

    I made that crystal clear, Bugster, you stupid shitworm. But it
    wouldn't make any difference to you, because you don't know the
    difference between you 85-year-old flabby ass and your florid
    dumb-fuck face.


    You just keep digging yourself deeper. You fucked up and now like tRump
    you double down like the jerkwad you are.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to burch cassidy on Fri Jul 18 15:23:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    burch cassidy <bcassidy@ucla.edu> wrote in news:20250718.094554.b0e178f9 @msgid.frell.theremailer.net:

    On 17 Jul 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:105b44v$1dvqr$2@dont-email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105b037$1d1r7$1@dont-email.me:

    Blowjob is too stupid to realize his many glaring tells. What a
    fucking idiot!

    On 7/16/2025 9:08 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
    obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
    On 16 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some
    news:1058sou$sgqv$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/16/2025 11:15 AM, Lane "Stonehowler" Waldby wrote:
    J Carlson wrote:
    On 7/16/2025 9:57 AM, "Doctor Fill," "Dark Brandon," "Lucas
    McCain," "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and >>>>>>> subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:
    On 7/16/2025 9:39 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
    [dictionary bullshit erased]


    So yes, the Earth is a globe, it is spherical, and for all >>>>>>>>>>> normal intents and purposes is a sphere.

    I hate to be pedantic, but with a bulge like that @ the
    equator, I wouldn't call it spherical, I would call it
    eyeball-shaped.

    Scientists call it an oblate spheroid rather than a sphere in a >>>>>>>>> valid scientific quest to be as precise as possible. However, >>>>>>>>> according to BBC Science Focus Magazine, the difference between >>>>>>>>> the equatorial and polar diameters is 42 km / 26 mi., the
    equatorial diameter being the larger. That difference is 0.33% >>>>>>>>> of the polar diameter  i.e., it's negligible. >>>>>>>>
    I recall reading somewhere that the French Space Rocket
    Launching
    Facility in French Guyana near the equator in South America
    where
    they launch rockets into outer space is advantageous over Cape >>>>>>>> Canaveral or Khazakstan in that the rockets require
    significantly
    less fuel due to the bulge at the equator and, as another
    benefit, the spin of the earth at the equator gives the rockets >>>>>>>> an additional boost into orbit when the rocket is aimed in the >>>>>>>> same direction as the spin.

    The extra velocity is the *only* reason, you subhuman Nazi filth. >>>>>>> There is no advantage due to the "bulge" of the equatorial
    diameter vs the polar diameter, as that difference is only 40 km
    /
    26 mi. And the advantage is almost exclusively for launches of
    satellites that are intended for geostationary orbit.

    Actually, the bulge does help.  You understand a crowbar,
    right? The longer the crowbar the more force impelled to the
    object, a satellite. This means that an elevated extra 42 km will
    produce more force than a valley launch at the equator. It's okay
    though.  I'm a Nazi filth too.

    Rudy had to google it.

    No, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and draft dodger and
    Social Security dole scrounger, I didn't.

    Once again, it's not the "bulge" of the diameter of the equator
    being a minuscule amount greater than the polar diameter. The
    advantage come from the radius of the equator circle being 3,963.2
    miles, versus only 3,496.9 at 28.3922° N latitude at Cape
    Canaveral. That's a difference of almost 500 miles, which
    translates
    to quite a lot of additional linear velocity at the equator versus
    at Cape Canaveral. But the other big advantage for launches to
    geostationary orbit is that not as much fuel is required to adjust
    the position of the satellite, because the launch angle is already
    a
    lot closer to geostationary orbit.

    You and scooter and the other fuckwits just fundamentally don't
    "get" what the bulge is. The bulge refers to the difference between
    polar radius/diameter/circumference versus the same measure at the
    equator. The additional 26 miles is not what gives the advantage to
    the Kourou, French Guiana site over Cape Canaveral.

    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries, Blowjob, you stupid fucking *fat* cocksucker and
    draft dodger and Social Security dole scrounger. When you resort to
    one, you're telling us your an uneducated illiterate Blowjob.

    Rudy is an ignoramus

    he's wrong about the 500 miles too.

    ===============
    AI Overview
    The equatorial radius of the Earth is approximately 21 kilometers (13
    miles) greater than the polar radius. This difference is due to the
    Earth's rotation, which causes a slight bulge at the equator and
    flattening at the poles, resulting in the shape of an oblate spheroid. >>==========

    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral is 0
    miles.

    Your AI says you're wrong.

    ==============
    AI Overview
    The Earth is not a perfect sphere; it bulges at the equator. Therefore,
    the radius at the equator is greater than the radius at Cape
    Canaveral's
    latitude. The difference in radius is approximately 22 kilometers.

    The answer you get depends on how you ask the question.
    ===
    AI Overview
    Earth's Structure: A Simple Exploration (Video)
    The Earth's radius at the equator, also known as the equatorial radius,
    is approximately 6,378 kilometers (3,963 miles).
    ===
    AI Overview
    The Earth's radius at Cape Canaveral, which is at a latitude of
    approximately 28°N, is essentially the same as the average Earth radius,
    which is 6,371 kilometers (3,959 miles). While the Earth is slightly
    flattened at the poles and bulging at the equator, the difference is
    negligible for most practical calculations related to the radius at Cape Canaveral.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 08:47:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/18/2025 8:26 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dnl3$2438l$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 8:17 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bvse$1k03u$3@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 2:51 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105bjmo$1hhbu$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/17/2025 9:08 AM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Baxter wrote:
    The difference in radius between the equator and Cape Canaveral >>>>>>>> is 0 miles.

    This is where Bugster, the professional dope, shows his stupidity. >>>>>> The difference in radius between Cape Canaveral and the equator
    *to the earth axis* is not zero.


    The great circles through the cape are not parallel to the
    equator. The latitude through the cape is not a great circle.

    Bugster, a professional dope who for some inexplicable reason is
    sitting on thousands of skeins of yarn, is too stupid to
    understand that earth rotates around its axis, *not* around the
    center of the earth. The linear velocity of an object at or near
    the equator is significantly higher than that of an object at a
    latitude farther from the equator due to the greater length of the >>>>>> radius from the surface to the axis at the equator. The formula
    for calculating linear velocity at a point on a rotating circle is >>>>>> v = ω * r, where 'v' is linear velocity, 'ω' is angular velocity >>>>>> in radians, and 'r' is the radius of the circle. The angular
    velocity of earth's rotation is *constant* for the entire planet
    — obviously, except to Bugster — and it is equal to 7.2921159
    × 10â»âµ.

    The eastward linear velocity at Cape Canaveral is about 914 mph,
    while linear velocity at Kourou is about 1,035 mph. It's that
    extra 100+ mph that provides the main advantage in launching
    rockets at Kourou. If the satellite is intended to achieve
    geostationary orbit, meaning geosynchronous orbit directly over
    the equator, then being closer to the equator at launch means less >>>>>> maneuvering, and thus less fuel, to achieve the desired orbit.
    That's a major additional benefit of launching at Kouros.

    But Bugster is a professional dope, so he'll never be able to
    understand this.


    This is on par with a spelling flame.

    No, Bugster, it's not even close. You reveal you don't know a
    fucking thing about angular velocity being converted to linear
    velocity. You insisted, stupidly, that launches were easier near the
    equator due to the minuscule difference between the equatorial and
    polar radii. It's not. You're a fucking idiot.


    If you were talking about oblate spheroid/etc.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid old demented shitwipe, because that's what
    the earth is.

    Which [snip whiny bullshit]

    If you meant Latitude why didn't you use that word?

    I *did* use the word, Bugster, you stupid shitworm.

    Nope.

    Yep.



    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.



    Again, right there, when you
    say "equatorial and polar radii" are you talking about Latitude or
    center of earth?

    I made that crystal clear, Bugster, you stupid shitworm. But it
    wouldn't make any difference to you, because you don't know the
    difference between you 85-year-old flabby ass and your florid
    dumb-fuck face.


    You just keep digging yourself deeper.

    No, Bugster, you demented yarn hoarder. I keep kicking your demented 85-year-old
    ass.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Fri Jul 18 20:23:01 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 16:04:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    Bugster concedes defeat.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Fri Jul 18 23:44:45 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you admit you can't prove it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Fri Jul 18 19:51:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/18/2025 4:44 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you

    You already conceded defeat, Bugster. There's no need to keep repeating it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Jul 19 15:14:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:105gcm4$2ql7r$1@dont- email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105f16o$2h2hr$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 4:44 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    [crickits]


    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you

    You already conceded defeat, Bugster. There's no need to keep
    repeating it.


    Carlson knows he fucked up, so like every conservaturd bluster and
    attack.

    J Carlson, is your ego so fragile you need a kiss? You need someone to
    pat you on the head and say you're a good boy?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Sat Jul 19 15:13:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105f16o$2h2hr$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 4:44 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    [crickits]


    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you

    You already conceded defeat, Bugster. There's no need to keep
    repeating it.


    Carlson knows he fucked up, so like every conservaturd bluster and
    attack.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Jul 19 09:04:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/19/2025 8:13 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105f16o$2h2hr$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 4:44 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule
    difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you

    You already conceded defeat, Bugster. There's no need to keep
    repeating it.


    Carlson knows

    that you fucked up and then conceded defeat. *Everyone* knows it, Bugster.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sat Jul 19 09:05:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    On 7/19/2025 8:14 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in news:105gcm4$2ql7r$1@dont- email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105f16o$2h2hr$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 4:44 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule >>>>>>>>>> difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    [crickits]


    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you

    You already conceded defeat, Bugster. There's no need to keep
    repeating it.


    Carlson knows I fucked up,

    Everyone knows it, Bugster.


    J Carlson is

    your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior. That's right, Bugster — and I'm also not hoarding yarn.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Sun Jul 20 03:25:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105gfmn$2qstr$4@dont-email.me:

    On 7/19/2025 8:13 AM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105f16o$2h2hr$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 4:44 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont-
    email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule >>>>>>>>>> difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    [crickets]

    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you

    You already conceded defeat, Bugster. There's no need to keep
    repeating it.


    Carlson knows

    I fucked up and then conceded defeat. *Everyone* knows it,
    Bugster.


    finally!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Sun Jul 20 03:28:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics, mn.politics

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105gfp3$2qstr$5@dont-email.me:

    On 7/19/2025 8:14 AM, Baxter wrote:
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
    news:105gcm4$2ql7r$1@dont- email.me:

    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105f16o$2h2hr$1@dont-email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 4:44 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105ejtm$2asnt$1@dont- email.me:

    On 7/18/2025 1:23 PM, Baxter wrote:
    J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in
    news:105dqa1$2438l$10@dont-email.me:





    And, no IT WAS NOT ME that was claiming
    "launches were easier near the equator due to the minuscule >>>>>>>>>>> difference between the equatorial and polar radii".

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid shitworm, you did.

    No it was not.

    Yes, Bugster, you stupid lying shitworm, you did.

    Prove it!

    [crickets]

    [still crickets]


    Bugster concedes defeat.

    So you

    You already conceded defeat, Bugster. There's no need to keep
    repeating it.


    Carlson knows he fucked up,

    Everyone knows it, Bugster.


    J Carlson is

    a blowhard.

    Admitting your problem is first step in overcomming it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 21 07:39:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, alt.politics.immigration
    XPost: or.politics

    [Default] An incel dwarf typed:

    Scout bitch-slapped Rudy by typing:


    "Hartung's DD-214" <not-in-arizona@rudy.invalid> wrote in message >>news:20250718.074316.c4bf1c2f@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
    On 17 Jul 2025, J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> is too stupid to realize >>> his many glaring tells. What a fucking idiot!


    bulge
    /b?lj/
    noun

    No dictionaries,

    Rudy gets smacked with another fact and runs away.

    Rudy hates when people prove he doesn't even understand the meaning of the >>words he uses.

    That's right, scooter.


    Most times when people can't understand me, it's because my mouth is
    full.

    If you are a right wing nut
    Or you're a leftist hippy
    If your cock's infected bad
    With lots of sores and drippy
    Rudy's waiting at the Jolly Kone
    To make your dreams come true
    Just come by, pull your pants right down
    And get into the queue!
    'Cause sucking cock is what I do
    My talent's unsurpassed!
    And all in California know
    My blow jobs are first class!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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