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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) carried out operations at businesses across Los Angeles on Friday, sparking protests and clashes outside at least one location, which resulted in authorities throwing
flash bangs in an effort to disperse the crowd.
The Associated Press reported that immigration advocates confirmed nearly
45 people were arrested across seven locations. The locations included two Home Depot stores, a store in the fashion district and a doughnut shop, according to Angelica Salas, the executive director of the Coalition of Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA), who spoke at an afternoon news
conference to denounce the actions.
David Huerta, the president of SEIU California, a major labor union, was arrested and charged for impeding a federal agent while protesting, the
U.S. Attorney’s office said.
"Let’s be clear: ICE injured and detained the president of SEIU California for peacefully observing," SEIU California wrote on X. "ICE picked the
wrong side. The wrong state. The wrong person. and the wrong union. David Huerta stood up. And 750,000 SEIU workers are standing with him."
California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, responded that Huerta is a "respected leader, a patriot, and an advocate for working people" and that "no one should ever be harmed for witnessing government action."
Videos of the operations taken by bystanders and TV news crews showed
people being escorted across a Home Depot parking lot by federal agents.
The videos also captured clashes between protesters and federal agents at detention sites.
KTLA shared aerial footage of agents outside a clothing store in the
fashion district escorting individuals out of a building and toward two
large white vans. The individuals were detained and had their hands tied behind their backs. Before being placed into the vans, agents were seen patting the detained individuals down.
One man has already been sent back to Mexico after being picked up at a
Home Depot on Friday morning, Yliana Johansen-Mendez, chief program
officer for the Immigrant Defenders Law Center, told The Associated Press. The man’s family contacted the organization, and one of their attorneys
was waiting for hours to speak to him inside the detention center. Authorities later said he had already been removed, and the man contacted
his family to say he was back in Mexico.
Agents executing the operations wore vests bearing FBI, ICE and HSI
(Homeland Security Investigations).
In one video, officers were seen throwing smoke bombs and flash bangs onto the street to get people to disperse, so the authorities could drive away
in vans, SUVs and military-style vehicles.
Dozens of protesters gathered Friday evening outside a federal detention center in Los Angeles, chanting "set them free, let them stay!" Other protesters held signs that said "ICE out of LA!" while others led chants
and shouted from megaphones.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) did not immediately respond to
Fox News Digital’s request for comment on the operations executed in Los Angeles on Friday.
HSI spokesperson Yasmeen Pitts O’Keefe told the Los Angeles Times that federal agents were executing search warrants relating to the harboring of people illegally in the country.
At the warehouse in the fashion district, agents had a search warrant
after a judge found there was probable cause that the employer was using fictitious documents for some of its workers, U.S. Attorney’s Office spokesperson Ciaran McEvoy told The Associated Press.
Still, local and state officials raised issues with the federal agencies’ actions on Friday.
"Our community is under attack and is being terrorized. These are workers, these are fathers, these are mothers, and this has to stop," Salas said
while being surrounded by a crowd holding signs protesting ICE.
"Immigration enforcement that is terrorizing our families throughout this country and picking up our people that we love must stop now."
While police were spotted on the scene, Los Angeles Police Department
(LAPD) Chief Jim McDonnell said his officers were not involved in civil immigration enforcement.
"Today the LAPD became aware that federal law enforcement agencies
conducted activities in the City of Los Angeles. I’m aware that these actions cause anxiety for many Angelenos, so I want to make it clear: the LAPD is not involved in civil immigration enforcement," the chief said in
a statement posted on X. "While the LAPD will continue to have a visible presence in all our communities to ensure public safety, we will not
assist or participate in any sort of mass deportations, nor will the LAPD
try to determine an individual’s immigration status."
McDonnell also said a policy in place since 1979 has barred police
officers from initiating law enforcement action simply to determine a person’s immigration status.
Instead, he added, the LAPD remains focused on initiatives that improve
the quality of life for all city residents, regardless of immigration
status.
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass said in a statement on X that as a mayor of a "proud city of immigrants," who she said contributes to the city in many ways, she was "deeply angered" by the actions taken by federal agencies in
LA on Friday.
"These tactics sow terror in our communities and disrupt basic principles
of safety in our city," Bass said. "We will not stand for this."
Bass also spoke to reporters on Friday, saying, "We are gonna fight for
all Angelenos, regardless of when they got here, whether they have papers
or not. We are a city of immigrants and this impacts hundreds of thousands
of Angelenos."
Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Calif., called the ICE raids across Los Angeles a continuation of a "disturbing pattern of extreme and cruel" immigration enforcement operations across the U.S.
"These indiscriminate raids prove once again that the Trump administration cares about nothing but instilling harm and fear in our communities to
drive immigrants into the shadows," he said in a statement shared on X.
"It will not work. This fearmongering is not going to change the fact that immigrants are valued members of our communities who contribute to our society and economy, and my office will demand accountability for today’s actions."
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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) carried out operations at >businesses across Los Angeles on Friday, sparking protests and clashes >outside at least one location, which resulted in authorities throwing
flash bangs in an effort to disperse the crowd.
The Associated Press reported that immigration advocates confirmed nearly
45 people were arrested across seven locations. The locations included two >Home Depot stores, a store in the fashion district and a doughnut shop, >according to Angelica Salas, the executive director of the Coalition of >Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA), who spoke at an afternoon news
conference to denounce the actions.
David Huerta, the president of SEIU California, a major labor union, was >arrested and charged for impeding a federal agent while protesting, the
U.S. Attorneys office said.
"Lets be clear: ICE injured and detained the president of SEIU California >for peacefully observing," SEIU California wrote on X. "ICE picked the
wrong side. The wrong state. The wrong person. and the wrong union. David >Huerta stood up. And 750,000 SEIU workers are standing with him."
California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, responded that Huerta is a >"respected leader, a patriot, and an advocate for working people" and that >"no one should ever be harmed for witnessing government action."
Videos of the operations taken by bystanders and TV news crews showed
people being escorted across a Home Depot parking lot by federal agents.
The videos also captured clashes between protesters and federal agents at >detention sites.
KTLA shared aerial footage of agents outside a clothing store in the
fashion district escorting individuals out of a building and toward two
large white vans. The individuals were detained and had their hands tied >behind their backs. Before being placed into the vans, agents were seen >patting the detained individuals down.
One man has already been sent back to Mexico after being picked up at a
Home Depot on Friday morning, Yliana Johansen-Mendez, chief program
officer for the Immigrant Defenders Law Center, told The Associated Press. >The mans family contacted the organization, and one of their attorneys
was waiting for hours to speak to him inside the detention center. >Authorities later said he had already been removed, and the man contacted
his family to say he was back in Mexico.
Agents executing the operations wore vests bearing FBI, ICE and HSI
(Homeland Security Investigations).
In one video, officers were seen throwing smoke bombs and flash bangs onto >the street to get people to disperse, so the authorities could drive away
in vans, SUVs and military-style vehicles.
Dozens of protesters gathered Friday evening outside a federal detention >center in Los Angeles, chanting "set them free, let them stay!" Other >protesters held signs that said "ICE out of LA!" while others led chants
and shouted from megaphones.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) did not immediately respond to
Fox News Digitals request for comment on the operations executed in Los >Angeles on Friday.
HSI spokesperson Yasmeen Pitts OKeefe told the Los Angeles Times that >federal agents were executing search warrants relating to the harboring of >people illegally in the country.
At the warehouse in the fashion district, agents had a search warrant
after a judge found there was probable cause that the employer was using >fictitious documents for some of its workers, U.S. Attorneys Office >spokesperson Ciaran McEvoy told The Associated Press.
Still, local and state officials raised issues with the federal agencies >actions on Friday.
"Our community is under attack and is being terrorized. These are workers, >these are fathers, these are mothers, and this has to stop," Salas said
while being surrounded by a crowd holding signs protesting ICE.
"Immigration enforcement that is terrorizing our families throughout this >country and picking up our people that we love must stop now."
While police were spotted on the scene, Los Angeles Police Department
(LAPD) Chief Jim McDonnell said his officers were not involved in civil >immigration enforcement.
"Today the LAPD became aware that federal law enforcement agencies
conducted activities in the City of Los Angeles. Im aware that these
actions cause anxiety for many Angelenos, so I want to make it clear: the >LAPD is not involved in civil immigration enforcement," the chief said in
a statement posted on X. "While the LAPD will continue to have a visible >presence in all our communities to ensure public safety, we will not
assist or participate in any sort of mass deportations, nor will the LAPD
try to determine an individuals immigration status."
McDonnell also said a policy in place since 1979 has barred police
officers from initiating law enforcement action simply to determine a >persons immigration status.
Instead, he added, the LAPD remains focused on initiatives that improve
the quality of life for all city residents, regardless of immigration
status.
Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass said in a statement on X that as a mayor of a >"proud city of immigrants," who she said contributes to the city in many >ways, she was "deeply angered" by the actions taken by federal agencies in
LA on Friday.
"These tactics sow terror in our communities and disrupt basic principles
of safety in our city," Bass said. "We will not stand for this."
Bass also spoke to reporters on Friday, saying, "We are gonna fight for
all Angelenos, regardless of when they got here, whether they have papers
or not. We are a city of immigrants and this impacts hundreds of thousands
of Angelenos."
Sen. Alex Padilla, D-Calif., called the ICE raids across Los Angeles a >continuation of a "disturbing pattern of extreme and cruel" immigration >enforcement operations across the U.S.
"These indiscriminate raids prove once again that the Trump administration >cares about nothing but instilling harm and fear in our communities to
drive immigrants into the shadows," he said in a statement shared on X.
"It will not work. This fearmongering is not going to change the fact that >immigrants are valued members of our communities who contribute to our >society and economy, and my office will demand accountability for todays >actions."
CHIRLA is an illegally funded anti-American non-profit organization.
Another clear attempt to lump illegals in with legal
immigrants. It is illegal to employ illegals and all
illegals should be deported when identified.
On 17/6/25 2:06, Attila wrote:
Another clear attempt to lump illegals in with legal
immigrants. It is illegal to employ illegals and all
illegals should be deported when identified.
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
On 17 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:102re3o$2aalt$2@dont-email.me:The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial profiling if
On 17/6/25 2:06, Attila wrote:
Another clear attempt to lump illegals in with legal
immigrants. It is illegal to employ illegals and all
illegals should be deported when identified.
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
It's not hard if the people start running away as soon as they see
border patrol vehicles.
On 17 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:102re3o$2aalt$2@dont-email.me:
On 17/6/25 2:06, Attila wrote:
Another clear attempt to lump illegals in with legal
immigrants. It is illegal to employ illegals and all
illegals should be deported when identified.
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
It's not hard if the people start running away as soon as they see
border patrol vehicles.
Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!
On 6/17/2025 9:10 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese >convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 17 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted someThe ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial profiling if
news:102re3o$2aalt$2@dont-email.me:
On 17/6/25 2:06, Attila wrote:
Another clear attempt to lump illegals in with legal
immigrants. It is illegal to employ illegals and all
illegals should be deported when identified.
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
It's not hard if the people start running away as soon as they see
border patrol vehicles.
they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining brown-skinned people, >Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you know that's illegal.
You're never going to figure out your tell, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* Nazi >cocksucker.
Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!
On 6/17/2025 9:10 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 17 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted someThe ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial
news:102re3o$2aalt$2@dont-email.me:
On 17/6/25 2:06, Attila wrote:
Another clear attempt to lump illegals in with legal
immigrants. It is illegal to employ illegals and all
illegals should be deported when identified.
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
It's not hard if the people start running away as soon as they see
border patrol vehicles.
profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you
know that's illegal.
You're never going to figure out your tell, Blowjob, you stupid *fat*
Nazi cocksucker.
On 17 Jun 2025, Bradford Carlton <notgenx32@yahoo.com> posted some news:102s4js$2fh6j$3@dont-email.me:
Blowjob is too stupid to realize his tell. What a fucking idiot!
On 6/17/2025 9:10 AM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 17 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted someThe ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial
news:102re3o$2aalt$2@dont-email.me:
On 17/6/25 2:06, Attila wrote:
Another clear attempt to lump illegals in with legal
immigrants. It is illegal to employ illegals and all
illegals should be deported when identified.
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
It's not hard if the people start running away as soon as they see
border patrol vehicles.
profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining
brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you
know that's illegal.
You're never going to figure out your tell, Blowjob, you stupid *fat*
Nazi cocksucker.
Are you sick or something?
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead
of releasing them back into the general population.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 02:56:08 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
By noting if they run when the guys in ICE jackets walk up to them.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 02:56:08 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
By noting if they run when the guys in ICE jackets walk up to them.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial >>profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining >>brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you
know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on the
spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead
of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:uof45kh681n69ktb45eiilbb90ossidqtg@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 02:56:08 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
How can ICE know the status of people in a Home Depot parking lot?
By noting if they run when the guys in ICE jackets walk up to them.
A lot of citizens would run too.
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in news:d1g45k9d0nud8jfr8gumlgdiuhi7nl534q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial >>profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining >>brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you >>know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on the
spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
And, let's see - if no prints in system then they're illegal? Hell, there's Citizens with no prints in the system.
Or is it the reverse? If they're illegal, they all have prints in the
system? How did that happen?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 15:25:35 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:d1g45k9d0nud8jfr8gumlgdiuhi7nl534q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial >>>>profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining >>>>brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob,
you know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on the
spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
And, let's see - if no prints in system then they're illegal? Hell,
there's Citizens with no prints in the system.
Or is it the reverse? If they're illegal, they all have prints in the >>system? How did that happen?
That's the starting point. If they've been caught and ided before,
they go to jail. If they are unable to prove citizenship, they get
deported.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then >>imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with
it as we are.
Baxter wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote inThe prints don't usually go into the system unless a person commits a
news:d1g45k9d0nud8jfr8gumlgdiuhi7nl534q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial
profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining
brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you >>>> know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on the
spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
And, let's see - if no prints in system then they're illegal? Hell,
there's
Citizens with no prints in the system.
Or is it the reverse? If they're illegal, they all have prints in the
system? How did that happen?
crime/ is charged with a crime.
In article <102ulpf$36ns3$4@dont-email.me>, bax02
_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d1g45k9d0nud8jfr8gumlgdiuhi7nl534q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial
profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining
brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you
know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on the
spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
And, let's see - if no prints in system then they're illegal?
Hell, there's
Citizens with no prints in the system.
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead
of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
--
NO KINGS
8647!
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead
of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting conviction justifying your punishment?
And if you are acquitted, announce no harm, no foul?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then >>imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with
it as we are.
Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional >>>>>> funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then >>>imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration
infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with
it as we are.
Trump wants things as they are, just like when he ordered his Johnson
to shitcan the bipartisan immigration deal.
"Praetor Mandrake" <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mbgc1hFam65U2@mid.individual.net...
Baxter wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote inThe prints don't usually go into the system unless a person commits a crime/ >> is charged with a crime.
news:d1g45k9d0nud8jfr8gumlgdiuhi7nl534q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial
profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining >>>>> brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, you >>>>> know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on the
spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
And, let's see - if no prints in system then they're illegal? Hell, there's >>> Citizens with no prints in the system.
Or is it the reverse? If they're illegal, they all have prints in the
system? How did that happen?
Well, when they apply for a visa they are...
But.. shit.. when did the law matter to you.
In the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f6u55kdj7c266fd56vdq9an236sucqdb9v@4ax.com...
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead
of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
--
NO KINGS
8647!
Where the person is a flight risk, which I would tend to think an [sic]
suspected illegal alien without ties to the community would be, they should be held...
"Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message news:1030sft$3rk8d$5@dont-email.me...That's a lie, scooter, and the Republiscums/QAnon in Congress *knew* it was a lie, because they *supported* the bill as being in America's interest, until the
Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional >>>>>>> funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also >>>>>>> suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration
infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with
it as we are.
Trump wants things as they are, just like when he ordered his Johnson
to shitcan the bipartisan immigration deal.
It needed to be shitcanned, if gave Americans nothing and gave illegal immigrants everything.
"Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:102v3ab$3aeot$2@dont-
email.me...
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then imprisonment >> without trial.
Ah.. because there IS a trial?
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting conviction
justifying your punishment?
Yep.
And if you are acquitted, announce no harm, no foul?
Pretty much as long as they acted in good faith and had legal justification.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ngp75kl9p0fhhviq32fv5lhmot88tklflf@4ax.com...
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional >>>>>> funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also >>>>>> suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration
infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with
it as we are.
Agreed. the whole system is badly broken at multiple levels, from border security and entry, through presence and jobs and then apprehension and deportation. Employers should also be more accountable, to the point we should
consider sting operations.
On 6/19/2025 8:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
That's a lie, scooter, and the Republiscums/QAnon in Congress *knew* it was a >lie, because they *supported* the bill as being in America's interest, until the
"Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message
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Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional >>>>>>>> funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also >>>>>>>> suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial. >>>>>
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration
infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with >>>> it as we are.
Trump wants things as they are, just like when he ordered his Johnson
to shitcan the bipartisan immigration deal.
It needed to be shitcanned, if gave Americans nothing and gave illegal
immigrants everything.
Orange Shitbag ordered them not to pass it because it was so good and Biden was
going to get the credit for it. We all know that Trump's self-interest is the >reason he told his Johnson to kill it, scooter. You know that.
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On 6/19/2025 8:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ngp75kl9p0fhhviq32fv5lhmot88tklflf@4ax.com...
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional >>>>>>>> funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also >>>>>>>> suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial. >>>>>>
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration
infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with >>>> it as we are.
Agreed. the whole system is badly broken at multiple levels, from
border security and entry, through presence and jobs and then
apprehension and deportation. Employers should also be more
accountable, to the point we should consider sting operations.
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other
rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on immigration.
Actually he was going after some of the employers on some other
unrelated issues such as first and second amendment rights uses. But as
a whole, he has not gone after employers specifically.
On 6/19/2025 8:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
That's a lie, scooter, and the Republiscums/QAnon in Congress *knew*
"Chris Ahlstrom" <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote in message
news:1030sft$3rk8d$5@dont-email.me...
Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest
additional funding for deportation courts to speed up the
process. I'd also suggest encampments/prisons for those
awaiting their hearing instead of releasing them back into the >>>>>>>> general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until
trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration
infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around
with it as we are.
Trump wants things as they are, just like when he ordered his
Johnson to shitcan the bipartisan immigration deal.
It needed to be shitcanned, if gave Americans nothing and gave
illegal immigrants everything.
it was a lie, because they *supported* the bill as being in America's interest, until the Orange Shitbag ordered them not to pass it because
it was so good and Biden was going to get the credit for it. We all
know that Trump's self-interest is the reason he told his Johnson to
kill it, scooter. You know that.
Attila wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 15:26:03 -0500, Praetor MandrakeI'm not really a fan of guilt by association, but you are entitled to
<horchata12839@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<mbja2sFrlf4U1@mid.individual.net> wrote:
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On 6/19/2025 8:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:Actually he was going after some of the employers on some other
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ngp75kl9p0fhhviq32fv5lhmot88tklflf@4ax.com...
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> >>>>>> wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional >>>>>>>>>> funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also >>>>>>>>>> suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>>>>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it >>>>>>>>> used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial. >>>>>>>>
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted, >>>>>>> announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration >>>>>> infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around with >>>>>> it as we are.
Agreed. the whole system is badly broken at multiple levels, from
border security and entry, through presence and jobs and then
apprehension and deportation. Employers should also be more
accountable, to the point we should consider sting operations.
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other >>>> rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on immigration. >>>
unrelated issues such as first and second amendment rights uses. But as >>> a whole, he has not gone after employers specifically.
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
your own opinion.
On 6/19/2025 8:51 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Siri Cruz" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:102v3ab$3aeot$2@dont- email.me...
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest
additional funding for deportation courts to speed up the
process. I'd also suggest encampments/prisons for those
awaiting their hearing instead of releasing them back into the
general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until
trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Ah.. because there IS a trial?
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment?
Yep.
And if you are acquitted, announce no harm, no foul?
Pretty much as long as they acted in good faith and had legal
justification.
So why are the J6 insurrectionists who were held in pretrial detention
On 6/19/2025 8:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ngp75kl9p0fhhviq32fv5lhmot88tklflf@4ax.com...
On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:16:28 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 18/6/25 10:35, Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest
additional funding for deportation courts to speed up the
process. I'd also suggest encampments/prisons for those
awaiting their hearing instead of releasing them back into the
general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until
trial.
If they are imprisonned until trial, how is that different then
imprisonment without trial.
Is the theory that you can be punished on accusation awaiting
conviction justifying your punishment? And if you are acquitted,
announce no harm, no foul?
My point being, again, we need to invest in sufficient immigration
infrastructure to get the job done instead of just dicking around
with it as we are.
Agreed. the whole system is badly broken at multiple levels, from
border security and entry, through presence and jobs and then
apprehension and deportation. Employers should also be more
accountable, to the point we should consider sting operations.
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other
rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
On 6/19/2025 8:33 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Praetor Mandrake" <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mbgc1hFam65U2@mid.individual.net...
Baxter wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote inThe prints don't usually go into the system unless a person commits
news:d1g45k9d0nud8jfr8gumlgdiuhi7nl534q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal
racial profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start
detaining brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you
are, Blowjob, you know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on
the spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
And, let's see - if no prints in system then they're illegal? Hell,
there's Citizens with no prints in the system.
Or is it the reverse? If they're illegal, they all have prints in
the system? How did that happen?
a crime/ is charged with a crime.
Well, when they apply for a visa they are...
How many people who commit improper entry do you imagine apply for a
visa, scooter? You fucking dope.
But.. shit.. when did the law matter to you.
Always, scooter. It's your side that doesn't believe in following the
law, scooter. When the criminal Nazi filth Trump regime ignores
judicial orders, scooter, they prove it.
On 6/19/2025 8:49 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f6u55kdj7c266fd56vdq9an236sucqdb9v@4ax.com...
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:25:51 -0700, Siri Cruz wrote:
On 17/6/25 21:22, Governor Swill wrote:
We agree but due process must be followed. I'd suggest additional
funding for deportation courts to speed up the process. I'd also
suggest encampments/prisons for those awaiting their hearing instead >>>>> of releasing them back into the general population.
Same problem. We are not allowed indefinite detention or as it
used to be known, imprisonment without trial.
I am not suggesting that. I'm suggesting imprisonment until trial.
--
NO KINGS
8647!
Where the person is a flight risk, which I would tend to think an [sic]
A scooterism!
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On 6/19/2025 8:33 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Praetor Mandrake" <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mbgc1hFam65U2@mid.individual.net...
Baxter wrote:
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote inThe prints don't usually go into the system unless a person commits a
news:d1g45k9d0nud8jfr8gumlgdiuhi7nl534q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2025 09:20:12 -0700, Bradford Carlton wrote:
The ICE Gestapo are engaging in unconstitutional and illegal racial >>>>>>> profiling if they go to a Home Depot parking lot and start detaining >>>>>>> brown-skinned people, Blowjob. Even as stupid as you are, Blowjob, >>>>>>> you
know that's illegal.
They ask for papers and if they don't get them, they id them on the >>>>>> spot with a bit of ink and run their prints.
And, let's see - if no prints in system then they're illegal? Hell,
there's
Citizens with no prints in the system.
Or is it the reverse? If they're illegal, they all have prints in the >>>>> system? How did that happen?
crime/ is charged with a crime.
Well, when they apply for a visa they are...
How many people who commit improper entry do you imagine apply for a
visa, scooter? You fucking dope.
About half of them.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:56:19 -0400, Attila wrote:
It allowed a certain number of illegals in legally.
If they're allowed in legally, they're not illegals, are they?
Your racism is showing.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 00:34:53 -0400, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun Praetor Mandrake wrote:<snip>
Attila wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.I'm not really a fan of guilt by association, but you are entitled to
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
your own opinion.
They would be violating federal law. The circumstances
would be similar for a fence dealing in stolen property.
That's a telling admission.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Next, Biden asked for more money for border security but again,But those are responsible men who wouldn't dash bills for merely
Republicans in the Senate shot it down. Apparently because Biden
wasn't deporting fast enough.
Then Senate Republicans wrote their own immigration bill, got
enough
Dem votes to pass it, sent it to the House who shut it down
because
Trump told them to.
That's three immigration bills the GOP has shot down in the
past four
years alone.
partisan reasons. They must be responsible if they got elected
to congress.
On 21/6/25 7:35, Praetor Mandrake wrote:
Next, Biden asked for more money for border security but again,But those are responsible men who wouldn't dash bills for merely
Republicans in the Senate shot it down. Apparently because Biden
wasn't deporting fast enough.
Then Senate Republicans wrote their own immigration bill, got
enough
Dem votes to pass it, sent it to the House who shut it down
because
Trump told them to.
That's three immigration bills the GOP has shot down in the
past four
years alone.
partisan reasons. They must be responsible if they got elected
to congress.
You need better trolls.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-sweeps-through-la-businesses-local- >democrats-cry-foul-over-trump-administrations-enforcement-actions
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) carried out operations at >businesses across Los Angeles on Friday, sparking protests and clashes >outside at least one location, which resulted in authorities throwing
flash bangs in an effort to disperse the crowd.
On 21/6/25 13:03, P. Coonan wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
Debt does not matter.
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to >>what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Siri Cruz wrote:
On 21/6/25 13:03, P. Coonan wrote:Of course it does. It's like a gear in a machine. The more and more debt the rustier the gear gets and eventually slips when USA lowers its rate of return against investors because is only option. If the debt gets too
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
Debt does not matter.
high the USA will not be able to afford its interest on the debt and will begin screwing customers because its pristine state will be sodden and deflowered.
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other
rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here for
jobs, nothing else.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other >>>> rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here for
jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans refuse to do, scooter.
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other >>>>> rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here for
jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs from >native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans refuse to do,
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
scooter.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other >>>>>> rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here for >>>> jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs from
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans refuse to do,
scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans >>refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Those people who say they can't live on minimum wage have 1000 island dressing dripping down their faces. Learn to budget, stupid entitled profligate.
Illegal immigrants live on jobs that often pay less than
minimum wage.
Scout wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero? Are wages high enough to allow families
to survive?
Yes, wages are high enough. I don't see any of them professing their
great ability to save money, just lamenting a raw income with no
information about their wasteful lives. I lived on minimum wage when
that was what I had. Thankfully I moved upwards in the job world.
Baxter wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has
any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals
come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans
refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
==============
‘Handcuffed like we’re criminals’: Ohio teen soccer star
recounts deportation
Emerson Colindres reflects on ‘traumatizing’ ordeal after Ice
sent him to Honduras despite having no criminal record
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/23/emerson-colindres-ohio
- teen-ice-deportation
=============
ICE Deports High School Soccer Star Days After Graduation
An Ohio teenager with no criminal record was deported to Honduras
this week after being detained at a routine ICE check-in.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-deports-high-school-soccer-star-
emerson-colindres-baquedano-days-after-graduation/
===========
3. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, bank claims it's a
holdup note and the guard arrests you.
Illegal immigrants are career criminals. If you break the law you are
a criminal. They are clearly breaking US law. This guy was keeping
his nose clean and finally they tracked him down. Just think of the
damage he would have caused if he had been allowed to remain here,
what with the temptations of Sin.
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in >news:mbta11FhgvqU1@mid.individual.net:
Baxter wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has >>>>>>>>> any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals >>>>>>> come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans
refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
==============
‘Handcuffed like we’re criminals’: Ohio teen soccer star
recounts deportation
Emerson Colindres reflects on ‘traumatizing’ ordeal after Ice
sent him to Honduras despite having no criminal record
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/23/emerson-colindres-ohio
- teen-ice-deportation
=============
ICE Deports High School Soccer Star Days After Graduation
An Ohio teenager with no criminal record was deported to Honduras
this week after being detained at a routine ICE check-in.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-deports-high-school-soccer-star-
emerson-colindres-baquedano-days-after-graduation/
===========
3. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, bank claims it's a
holdup note and the guard arrests you.
Illegal immigrants are career criminals. If you break the law you are
a criminal. They are clearly breaking US law. This guy was keeping
his nose clean and finally they tracked him down. Just think of the
damage he would have caused if he had been allowed to remain here,
what with the temptations of Sin.
Here's another example how one says he's a racist POS without coming out
and actually admitting he's a racist POS/
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any other >>>>>>> rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here for >>>>> jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs from
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans refuse to do,
scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving" any Americans
of jobs.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
The difference is that in the first case, it's your money, and in the second, it
isn't.
You fucking moron.
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in >news:mbtah9Fhj36U2@mid.individual.net:
Scout wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero? Are wages high enough to allow families
to survive?
Yes, wages are high enough. I don't see any of them professing their
great ability to save money, just lamenting a raw income with no
information about their wasteful lives. I lived on minimum wage when
that was what I had. Thankfully I moved upwards in the job world.
Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour. Working 40 hours/week at that rate
will not pay the rent on a studio appartment - much less buy food,
medical, clothes, transportation, etc.
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in >news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans >>>refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
==============
Handcuffed like were criminals: Ohio teen soccer star recounts
deportation
Emerson Colindres reflects on traumatizing ordeal after Ice sent him to >Honduras despite having no criminal record
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/23/emerson-colindres-ohio- >teen-ice-deportation
=============
ICE Deports High School Soccer Star Days After Graduation
An Ohio teenager with no criminal record was deported to Honduras this
week after being detained at a routine ICE check-in.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-deports-high-school-soccer-star- >emerson-colindres-baquedano-days-after-graduation/
===========
3. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, bank claims it's a holdup
note and the guard arrests you.
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.
As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to >>>> what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable. >>>> If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth
within the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 08:20:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <phe6Q.1624948$vvyf.751579@fx18.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>>> other
rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against >>>>>> employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here >>>>>> for
jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs from >>>> native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
refuse to do,
scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving" any >>Americans
of jobs.
Irrelevant. If they entered illegally they should be
identified by any means necessary and immediately deported.
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:mbtaevFhj36U1@mid.individual.net:
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Those people who say they can't live on minimum wage have 1000 island
dressing dripping down their faces. Learn to budget, stupid entitled
profligate.
Says the jerkwad who never had to try to live on minimum wage. Yeah,
decades ago you could do it, but no longer.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id <jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other
rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on
immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here for >>>> jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs from >>native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans refuse
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
to do,
scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans >>>refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
Which is allowable:They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 15:18:57 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <103br90$1b435$4@dont-email.me> wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in >>news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against >>>>>> employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here >>>>>> for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans >>>>refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
By securing permission before they enter the country?
==============
'Handcuffed like we're criminals': Ohio teen soccer star recounts >>deportation
Why should soccer stars be exempt from the law?
Emerson Colindres reflects on 'traumatizing' ordeal after Ice sent him to >>Honduras despite having no criminal record
Was he in the country legally?
Every person in the US is here either
legally or illegally. If they are here
illegally they should be identified and
deported as soon as possible without
exception.
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:mbtah9Fhj36U2@mid.individual.net:
Scout wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero? Are wages high enough to allow families
to survive?
Yes, wages are high enough. I don't see any of them professing their
great ability to save money, just lamenting a raw income with no
information about their wasteful lives. I lived on minimum wage when
that was what I had. Thankfully I moved upwards in the job world.
Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour. Working 40 hours/week at that rate
will not pay the rent on a studio appartment - much less buy food,
medical, clothes, transportation, etc.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows
slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion
leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their
parents did.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:24:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <103c2l2$1d4en$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:mbtah9Fhj36U2@mid.individual.net:
Scout wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero? Are wages high enough to allow families
to survive?
Yes, wages are high enough. I don't see any of them professing their
great ability to save money, just lamenting a raw income with no
information about their wasteful lives. I lived on minimum wage when
that was what I had. Thankfully I moved upwards in the job world.
Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour. Working 40 hours/week at that rate >>will not pay the rent on a studio appartment - much less buy food,
medical, clothes, transportation, etc.
By the time you are supporting yourself you should have used
education and if necessary specialized training to qualify
for more than a minimum wage.
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.By securing permission before they enter the country?
Why should soccer stars be exempt from the law?
Every person in the US is here either
legally or illegally. If they are here
illegally they should be identified and
deported as soon as possible without
exception.
Why should soccer stars be exempt from the law?
Well, Democrats are great at making excuses for ignoring the law.
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
I don't doubt that some are, as no system in perfect, but when we
weren't allowed to do so because Democrats were sheltering them.. then
you sweep up more in the shuffle.
That's $1250 a month and a studio apartment is $550 per month.
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only reason employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
So? After all, if an illegal alien can survive here on that or less,
should be good enough for you, right?
I mean it's not like you can ask for a higher pay because then they
would just fire you and put that illegal alien doing your job, because
they have a right to your job.
Scout wrote:
<snip>
He's saying the employers are so goddamn stupid they don't realize that
they can pay $1 more per hour and get bona fide American citizens
working for them.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:51:56 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
By the time you are supporting yourself you should have used
education and if necessary specialized training to qualify
for more than a minimum wage.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda ...
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:mbtah9Fhj36U2@mid.individual.net:
Scout wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero? Are wages high enough to allow families
to survive?
Yes, wages are high enough. I don't see any of them professing their
great ability to save money, just lamenting a raw income with no information about their wasteful lives. I lived on minimum wage when
that was what I had. Thankfully I moved upwards in the job world.
Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour. Working 40 hours/week at that rate
will not pay the rent on a studio appartment - much less buy food,
medical, clothes, transportation, etc.
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:mbta11FhgvqU1@mid.individual.net:
Baxter wrote:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has >>>>>>>> any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals >>>>>> come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans
refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
==============
?Handcuffed like we?re criminals?: Ohio teen soccer star
recounts deportation
Emerson Colindres reflects on ?traumatizing? ordeal after Ice
sent him to Honduras despite having no criminal record
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/23/emerson-colindres-ohio
- teen-ice-deportation
=============
ICE Deports High School Soccer Star Days After Graduation
An Ohio teenager with no criminal record was deported to Honduras
this week after being detained at a routine ICE check-in.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-deports-high-school-soccer-star-
emerson-colindres-baquedano-days-after-graduation/
===========
3. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, bank claims it's a
holdup note and the guard arrests you.
Illegal immigrants are career criminals. If you break the law you are
a criminal. They are clearly breaking US law. This guy was keeping
his nose clean and finally they tracked him down. Just think of the
damage he would have caused if he had been allowed to remain here,
what with the temptations of Sin.
Here's another example how one says he's a racist POS without coming out
and actually admitting he's a racist POS/
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote in news:mbtaevFhj36U1@mid.individual.net:
Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Those people who say they can't live on minimum wage have 1000 island dressing dripping down their faces. Learn to budget, stupid entitled profligate.
Says the jerkwad who never had to try to live on minimum wage. Yeah,
decades ago you could do it, but no longer.
Illegal immigrants live on jobs that often pay less than
minimum wage.
Actually they don't, they work piecemeal - or they have other support
that ordinary people don't have.
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals
come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals
come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving" any Americans of jobs.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
The difference is that in the first case, it's your money, and in the
second, it isn't.
You fucking moron.
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.Who are illegaly here to begin with.
Dutch wrote:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.Who are illegaly here to begin with.
No. The stormtroopers have to empty the land of non-whites.
Attila wrote:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.By securing permission before they enter the country?
Yes. Catch up on the news, idiot. Some of them, like Cubans and
Venezuelans, campaigned for TACO and have spouses that voted for him.
Why should soccer stars be exempt from the law?
After spending all that money on education and healthcare, just as they
are about to get jobs and pay taxes, generating a return on investment,
that is when we send him to another country so it can get that return on
our investment. No wonder goober states are such failures at capitalism.
Every person in the US is here either
legally or illegally. If they are here
illegally they should be identified and
deported as soon as possible without
exception.
How are they identified legally? Are they receiving due process?
Why should soccer stars be exempt from the law?
When it enriches our country. Your bigotry makes you hate which is
stupid. Trust someone from the world's fourth largest economy. Tolerance
is profitable.
Scout wrote:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
I don't doubt that some are, as no system in perfect, but when we
weren't allowed to do so because Democrats were sheltering them.. then
you sweep up more in the shuffle.
Better a hundred innocent men get hanged than one guilty man go free.
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message >news:978j5k1dfqi8fpu3v541giabafbufd0un8@4ax.com...
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 08:20:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<phe6Q.1624948$vvyf.751579@fx18.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>>>> other
rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on >>>>>>>>> immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against >>>>>>> employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here >>>>>>> for
jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs from >>>>> native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
refuse to do,
scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving" any >>>Americans
of jobs.
Irrelevant. If they entered illegally they should be
identified by any means necessary and immediately deported.
Makes me wonder if a couple of dozen decided to move in with Rudy whether he >would mind as long as they weren't depriving Rudy of his bed.
After all.. they wnat the shelter, the fact it belongs to Rudy would appear >to be an irrelevant issue according to Rudy
Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >news:60hj5k5shttpga5da9to606in27ijl76a6@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:51:56 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
By the time you are supporting yourself you should have used
education and if necessary specialized training to qualify
for more than a minimum wage.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda ...
And you have to have money and free time to get the training. You can't >always have both.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving" any Americans
of jobs.
On 23 Jun 2025, Klaus Canoza <bondrock@ifx.net> posted some news:jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any
other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis
on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against
employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here
for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
Good, then I make all I need sucking cocks.
On 23 Jun 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:103br90$1b435$4@dont-email.me:
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:fgqi5k97anbkd9dr0688rkhlhas9mm36o5@4ax.com:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has
any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals
come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
They're deporting legal immigrants
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is that one is following a lawful
process and the other is acting illegally.
Who are illegaly here to begin with. Kick them all out. Knock before entering.
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> >>>>>>>> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to >>>>>> what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable. >>>>>> If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within >>>> the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and >the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when foreigners >buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion leaves
our economy.
It comes back, scooter.
You just don't know a fucking thing about trade, scooter.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
<snip>
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and >>the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your >>> economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, >>> not at all or even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>foreigners buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to >>>>>>> what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to >>>>>> pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use >>>>>> foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion leaves
our economy.
It comes back, scooter.
You just don't know a fucking thing about trade, scooter.
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows
slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion
leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their
parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money coming
back to USA.
Scout wrote:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
I don't doubt that some are, as no system in perfect, but when we
weren't allowed to do so because Democrats were sheltering them.. then
you sweep up more in the shuffle.
Better a hundred innocent men get hanged than one guilty man go free.
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:04:41 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is >>> offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your >>> economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows
slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion
leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their
parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money coming >>back to USA.
Since we control the supply of global trading currency, how much
leaves is irrelevant. We just create more.
Scout wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 08:20:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<phe6Q.1624948$vvyf.751579@fx18.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>>>>> other
rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis on >>>>>>>>>> immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action against >>>>>>>> employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals come here >>>>>>>> for
jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs >>>>>> from
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that Americans
refuse to do,
scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving" any
Americans
of jobs.
Irrelevant. If they entered illegally they should be
identified by any means necessary and immediately deported.
Makes me wonder if a couple of dozen decided to move in with Rudy whether
he would mind as long as they weren't depriving Rudy of his bed.
After all.. they wnat the shelter, the fact it belongs to Rudy would
appear to be an irrelevant issue according to Rudy
Or set up a shop cooking burritoes for the public. Who wants those sweaty moustachios nearby?
Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103celo$1gcsr$4@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only reason >>> employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their
labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home more, because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they would never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were audited.
Scout wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103celo$1gcsr$4@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only
reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy >>>> to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their
labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home more,
because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they would
never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were
audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt mean.
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay
attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians
accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to >>>>>>> pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use >>>>>>> foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth >>>>>> within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay
is offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those
jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into
your economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not
at all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They
buy pesos or yuan or whatever and send that.
Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure
on the dollar, making it easier for American firms to export goods and services.
Even if the immigrants were to send U.S. dollars to their families in
their home countries, those dollars would come back to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just
like scooter.
[snips!]
Even if the immigrants were to send U.S. dollars to their families in
their home countries, those dollars would come back to us.
When? With $950 Billion in trade imbalance.. when exactly do those
dollars come back[?]
Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
<snip>
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your >>>> economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, >>>> not at all or even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>>foreigners buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
Not to worry. Uncle Scam has that covered:
<https://www.dw.com/en/trump-remittance-tax-to-hit-africans-hard/a-72695501>
Trump remittance tax to hit Africans hard
Arthur Sullivan 05/31/2025May 31, 2025
The US president's much-touted tax bill includes a plan to
place significant levies on remittances leaving the country.
The impact on migrants and their families will be felt across
the world, including Africa.
Can't let a single buck escape Punkinspice Palpatine's clawlike
grasp.
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to >>>>>>> pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use >>>>>>> foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy >pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign >currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American >firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S. >dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like scooter.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion leaves
our economy.
It comes back, scooter.
You just don't know a fucking thing about trade, scooter.
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:103epd7$25ugu$1@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103celo$1gcsr$4@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only
reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy >>>>> to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their
labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home more,
because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they would >>> never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were
audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt mean.
I do understand, and it's because we deport the non-exempt leaving companies >without a significant portion of their work force they are working to make >sure those they hire actually are legally here and legally authorized to >work.
I know of one company that lost in excess of $2 million in project delay >penalties after an ICE raid gutted their work for and lord knows how much >they had to pay in fines and on top of that.
<snip>
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to >>>>>>>>> pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use >>>>>>>>> foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign >>> currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
<snip>
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
You're such a Hun. :-D
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:35:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> in alt.atheism with message-id <103f97l$2a6fg$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
<snip>
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
You're such a Hun. :-D
You always contribute so much to a discussion.
On 6/24/2025 10:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103cd3b$1g5cf$2@dont- email.me...
scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
I don't doubt that some are, as no system in perfect, but when we
weren't allowed to do so because Democrats were sheltering them.
That never happened, scooter.
On 6/24/2025 10:32 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
Inflation is very low and people can afford what they want to buy,
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2hgj5k5cggbmtmnn0u5pi5s9vhv5bvvev4@4ax.com...
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:04:41 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay >>>>> is
offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into
your
economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows
slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion >>>>> leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their
parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money coming >>>> back to USA.
Since we control the supply of global trading currency, how much
leaves is irrelevant. We just create more.
Which is why inflation is making our money worthless and people can no
longer afford anything.
scooter.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:50:10 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <103es1f$26nvm$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:103epd7$25ugu$1@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103celo$1gcsr$4@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only
reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly
happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their
labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home more, >>>> because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they
would
never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were
audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt mean.
I do understand, and it's because we deport the non-exempt leaving >>companies
without a significant portion of their work force they are working to make >>sure those they hire actually are legally here and legally authorized to >>work.
I know of one company that lost in excess of $2 million in project delay >>penalties after an ICE raid gutted their work for and lord knows how much >>they had to pay in fines and on top of that.
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
On 6/24/2025 10:50 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me...
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay >>>>>>>>>> attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians >>>>>>>>>> accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting >>>>>>>>> to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use >>>>>>>>> foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth >>>>>>>> within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay >>>>>> is offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those >>>>> jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into >>>>>> your economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not >>>>>> at all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They >>> buy pesos or yuan or whatever and send that.
Unless the pesos or yuan or whatever is highly inflationary, then dollars
remain preferred, but
They don't send dollars, scooter.
They convert the money to their home currency when they cash in the money order or make the deposit.
Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure
Translation:
No, scooter. Whenever you write "translation:" or "In other words," what follows is always bullshit.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:54:01 -0400, Attila wrote:
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>>foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
You guys act like money is some finite resource.
On 23 Jun 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <bondrock@ifx.net> posted some news:phe6Q.1624948$vvyf.751579@fx18.iad:
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has any >>>>>>>> other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you Nazis >>>>>>>> on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those illegals >>>>>> come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving" any
Americans of jobs.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
The difference is that in the first case, it's your money, and in the
second, it isn't.
You fucking moron.
Do I eat shit and suck cocks?
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message news:KWE6Q.13407$sxI1.7818@fx11.iad...No, scooter. There are so-called "sanctuary cities," but that does not equate to
On 6/24/2025 10:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103cd3b$1g5cf$2@dont- email.me...
scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process.
I don't doubt that some are, as no system in perfect, but when we
weren't allowed to do so because Democrats were sheltering them.
That never happened, scooter.
So you're calling Democrats liars for making the claims about this place or that
place being a sanctuary city, town, or area?
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kutt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:BVE6Q.13406$sxI1.2024@fx11.iad...
On 6/24/2025 10:32 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
Inflation is very low and people can afford what they want to buy, scooter.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2hgj5k5cggbmtmnn0u5pi5s9vhv5bvvev4@4ax.com...
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:04:41 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is >>>>>> offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your >>>>>> economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows
slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion >>>>>> leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their >>>>>> parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money coming >>>>> back to USA.
Since we control the supply of global trading currency, how much
leaves is irrelevant. We just create more.
Which is why inflation is making our money worthless and people can no longer
afford anything.
Really?
1960The price of gold has gone up more than the rate of inflation, scooter. Many things are cheaper today in real terms, i.e. adjusted for inflation, than they were in 1960, scooter:
Gold $36.50/ounce
Minimum wage $1/hr
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) could buy an ounce of gold working
just 36.5 hours
2025
Gold $3,330.00/ounce
Minimum wage $7.50/hr 444hrs.
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) can buy an ounce of gold working a
mere 444hrs.
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message news:ms1m5khsddgck9565qojkc99eoe6hr75l1@4ax.com...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:50:10 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <103es1f$26nvm$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Scout wrote:I do understand, and it's because we deport the non-exempt leaving companies
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only >>>>>>> reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy >>>>>>> to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their >>>>> labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home more, >>>>> because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they would >>>>> never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were
audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt mean. >>>
without a significant portion of their work force they are working to make >>> sure those they hire actually are legally here and legally authorized to >>> work.
I know of one company that lost in excess of $2 million in project delay >>> penalties after an ICE raid gutted their work for and lord knows how much >>> they had to pay in fines and on top of that.
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
Sounds like a good start.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9sgn5khmncdrl3r99eodcm8gvu2bjgdnel@4ax.com...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:54:01 -0400, Attila wrote:
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
You guys act like money is some finite resource.
Money is not finite but the value that money represents IS..
You can tack a couple of zeros to the end.. and prices will increase by the same
amount.
On 6/25/2025 6:46 AM, Scout wrote:
No, scooter. There are so-called "sanctuary cities," but that does not
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 6/24/2025 10:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is
frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process. >>>>>>I don't doubt that some are, as no system in perfect, but when we
weren't allowed to do so because Democrats were sheltering them.
That never happened, scooter.
So you're calling Democrats liars for making the claims about this place
or that place being a sanctuary city, town, or area?
equate to "sheltering" or concealing undocumented aliens. It means those jurisdictions will not allow their law enforcement to be commandeered into enforcing immigration law. That is what it means, scooter, and they are
doing the right thing.
Detecting and deporting every undocumented immigrant in the U.S. is bad
for America, scooter.
All right-thinking people see that, scooter.
What's your problem (other than being a drunken Virginia camper)?
On 6/25/2025 6:47 AM, Scout wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:50:10 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <103es1f$26nvm$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Scout wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only >>>>>>>> reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly >>>>>>>> happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their >>>>>> labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home
more,
because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they >>>>>> would
never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were >>>>>> audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt
mean.
I do understand, and it's because we deport the non-exempt leaving
companies
without a significant portion of their work force they are working to
make
sure those they hire actually are legally here and legally authorized
to
work.
I know of one company that lost in excess of $2 million in project
delay
penalties after an ICE raid gutted their work for and lord knows how
much
they had to pay in fines and on top of that.
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
Sounds like a good start.
Why haven't Republiscum/QAnon regimes *already* taken punitive action
against firms that hire undocumented immigrants, scooter? You know the reason, scooter: because the business owners *are* Republiscums/QAnon.
That is the reason, scooter.
On 6/25/2025 6:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kutt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 6/24/2025 10:32 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
Inflation is very low and people can afford what they want to buy,
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:04:41 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what >>>>>>> pay is
offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into >>>>>>> your
economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows >>>>>>> slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1
Trillion
leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their >>>>>>> parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money
coming
back to USA.
Since we control the supply of global trading currency, how much
leaves is irrelevant. We just create more.
Which is why inflation is making our money worthless and people can no >>>> longer afford anything.
scooter.
Really?
Yes, scooter.
The price of gold has gone up more than the rate of inflation, scooter.
1960
Gold $36.50/ounce
Minimum wage $1/hr
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) could buy an ounce of gold
working just 36.5 hours
2025
Gold $3,330.00/ounce
Minimum wage $7.50/hr 444hrs.
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) can buy an ounce of gold
working a mere 444hrs.
things are cheaper today in real terms, i.e. adjusted for inflation, than they were in 1960, scooter:
* clothing
* bananas
* televisions
* airfare
* washing machines
* toys
* aluminum
https://historyfacts.com/us-history/article/7-things-that-are-much-cheaper-now-than-they-used-to-be/
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103hbkc$2sqef$2@dont-email.me...
On 6/25/2025 6:46 AM, Scout wrote:
No, scooter. There are so-called "sanctuary cities," but that does not equate
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:KWE6Q.13407$sxI1.7818@fx11.iad...
On 6/24/2025 10:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103cd3b$1g5cf$2@dont- email.me...
scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is >>>>>> frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
They're deporting immigrants who are following the legal process. >>>>>>>I don't doubt that some are, as no system in perfect, but when we >>>>>>> weren't allowed to do so because Democrats were sheltering them.
That never happened, scooter.
So you're calling Democrats liars for making the claims about this place or >>> that place being a sanctuary city, town, or area?
to "sheltering" or concealing undocumented aliens. It means those
jurisdictions will not allow their law enforcement to be commandeered into >> enforcing immigration law. That is what it means, scooter, and they are doing
the right thing.
Detecting and deporting every undocumented immigrant in the U.S. is bad for >> America, scooter.
Why?
Are you saying we should turn a blind eye to crime?
All right-thinking people see that, scooter.
So now you're claiming to be a Republican?
What's your problem (other than being a drunken Virginia camper)?
Well, I could say it's your ignorance and stupidity
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103hb30$2sqef$1@dont-email.me...
On 6/25/2025 6:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kutt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 6/24/2025 10:32 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
Inflation is very low and people can afford what they want to buy, scooter.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:04:41 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows >>>>>>>> slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion >>>>>>>> leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their >>>>>>>> parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money coming >>>>>>> back to USA.
Since we control the supply of global trading currency, how much
leaves is irrelevant. We just create more.
Which is why inflation is making our money worthless and people can no >>>>> longer afford anything.
Really?
Yes, scooter.
The price of gold has gone up more than the rate of inflation, scooter.
1960
Gold $36.50/ounce
Minimum wage $1/hr
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) could buy an ounce of gold
working just 36.5 hours
2025
Gold $3,330.00/ounce
Minimum wage $7.50/hr 444hrs.
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) can buy an ounce of gold working
a mere 444hrs.
Yes, but it's called a gold standard for a reason.
overtime.. gold has shown
that it accurately reflects the value. a meal costing the same amount in gold, a
suit, a home. etc
? Many
things are cheaper today in real terms, i.e. adjusted for inflation, than they
were in 1960, scooter:
* clothing
* bananas
* televisions
* airfare
* washing machines
* toys
* aluminum
https://historyfacts.com/us-history/article/7-things-that-are-much-cheaper- >> now-than-they-used-to-be/
Some things are, but if what you claim were true.. then we could make everyone
Billionaires and live like kings.
Meanwhile, Home ownership for many people has become an impossible dream.
Yep, according to Rudy everyone has more than enough money.
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103hbn4$2sqef$3@dont-email.me...
On 6/25/2025 6:47 AM, Scout wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:50:10 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <103es1f$26nvm$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Scout wrote:I do understand, and it's because we deport the non-exempt leaving companies
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103celo$1gcsr$4@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only >>>>>>>>> reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their >>>>>>> labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home more, >>>>>>> because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they would
never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were >>>>>>> audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt mean. >>>>>
without a significant portion of their work force they are working to make
sure those they hire actually are legally here and legally authorized to >>>>> work.
I know of one company that lost in excess of $2 million in project delay >>>>> penalties after an ICE raid gutted their work for and lord knows how much >>>>> they had to pay in fines and on top of that.
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
Sounds like a good start.
Why haven't Republiscum/QAnon regimes *already* taken punitive action against
firms that hire undocumented immigrants, scooter? You know the reason,
scooter: because the business owners *are* Republiscums/QAnon. That is the >> reason, scooter.
So you admit Democrats have no head for business.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:54:01 -0400, Attila wrote:
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
You guys act like money is some finite resource.
That's the reason they are killing pennies. Each one costs three cents
to produce. I hear the nickel is a loss too.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 12:54:20 -0500, Praetor Mandrake
<horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:
That's $1250 a month and a studio apartment is $550 per month. Why
will it not pay the rent? Does minimum wage money not go in the
slots, like pennies or something?
Where can you find an apartment for that price? Around here you
can't get a travel trailer for that kind of money. Cheap rents start
at half again that much.e
Add utilities for another $300.
Car payment, insurance, upkeep and repair is easily $500 a month.
Food, clothes, health care, furniture ... you're as full of shit as a
Thanksgiving turkey.
Utah and Illinois both.
How is furniture a life necessity? You're as full of extravagance as
a Mar A Lago Resort. I did notice you listed it last. How does it
feel to say inconsequential things?
On 6/23/2025 11:40 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 23 Jun 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <bondrock@ifx.net> posted some
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On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has >>>>>>>>> any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those
illegals come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving"
any Americans of jobs.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
The difference is that in the first case, it's your money, and in
the second, it isn't.
You fucking moron.
Do you eat shit and suck cocks?
Yes, I give Blowjobs, I do.
Nomen Nescio wrote:
In article <mc3gbjFijrnU10@mid.individual.net>
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:54:01 -0400, Attila wrote:That's the reason they are killing pennies. Each one costs three cents
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
You guys act like money is some finite resource.
to produce. I hear the nickel is a loss too.
FYI, the US has never minted pennies. It has however minted cents.
Take a look at one and see what is says on the reverse.
it says we have no sense
On 6/25/2025 11:06 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 6/25/2025 6:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kutt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 6/24/2025 10:32 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
Inflation is very low and people can afford what they want to buy,
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:04:41 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what >>>>>>>>> pay is
offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters >>>>>>>>> into your
economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows >>>>>>>>> slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 >>>>>>>>> Trillion
leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as >>>>>>>>> their
parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money >>>>>>>> coming
back to USA.
Since we control the supply of global trading currency, how much >>>>>>> leaves is irrelevant. We just create more.
Which is why inflation is making our money worthless and people can >>>>>> no longer afford anything.
scooter.
Really?
Yes, scooter.
The price of gold has gone up more than the rate of inflation, scooter.
1960
Gold $36.50/ounce
Minimum wage $1/hr
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) could buy an ounce of gold >>>> working just 36.5 hours
2025
Gold $3,330.00/ounce
Minimum wage $7.50/hr 444hrs.
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) can buy an ounce of gold
working a mere 444hrs.
Yes, but it's called a gold standard for a reason.
There is no more gold standard, scooter.
overtime.. gold has shown that it accurately reflects the value. a meal
costing the same amount in gold, a suit, a home. etc
No, scooter, it does *not*. Just shut the fuck up, scooter. You don't know
a thing about gold.
On 6/25/2025 11:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 6/25/2025 6:47 AM, Scout wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:50:10 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <103es1f$26nvm$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Scout wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103celo$1gcsr$4@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only >>>>>>>>>> reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly >>>>>>>>>> happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment?
Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of >>>>>>>> their
labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home >>>>>>>> more,
because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they >>>>>>>> would
never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were >>>>>>>> audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt >>>>>>> mean.
I do understand, and it's because we deport the non-exempt leaving >>>>>> companies
without a significant portion of their work force they are working to >>>>>> make
sure those they hire actually are legally here and legally authorized >>>>>> to
work.
I know of one company that lost in excess of $2 million in project >>>>>> delay
penalties after an ICE raid gutted their work for and lord knows how >>>>>> much
they had to pay in fines and on top of that.
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
Sounds like a good start.
Why haven't Republiscum/QAnon regimes *already* taken punitive action
against firms that hire undocumented immigrants, scooter? You know the
reason, scooter: because the business owners *are* Republiscums/QAnon.
That is the reason, scooter.
So you admit Democrats have no head for business.
No, scooter. Most industries that don't employ undocumented workers are
led by Democrats, scooter.
On 25 Jun 2025, Paul Jackson wrote:
On 6/23/2025 11:40 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 23 Jun 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <bondrock@ifx.net> posted some
news:phe6Q.1624948$vvyf.751579@fx18.iad:
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote:
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has >>>>>>>>>> any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those >>>>>>>> illegals come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs >>>>>> from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement?
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving"
any Americans of jobs.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
The difference is that in the first case, it's your money, and in
the second, it isn't.
You fucking moron.
Do I eat shit and suck cocks?
Yes, Blowjobs, you do.
The monkeypox is killing me.
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103hl49$2vklr$4@dont-email.me...
On 6/25/2025 11:06 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103hb30$2sqef$1@dont-email.me...
On 6/25/2025 6:45 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:Yes, but it's called a gold standard for a reason.
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kutt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:BVE6Q.13406$sxI1.2024@fx11.iad...
On 6/24/2025 10:32 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
Inflation is very low and people can afford what they want to buy, scooter.
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2hgj5k5cggbmtmnn0u5pi5s9vhv5bvvev4@4ax.com...
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:04:41 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Scout wrote:
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows >>>>>>>>>> slower, not at all or even declines.
Currently between trade and direct transfer of money about $1 Trillion
leaves our economy. Then people wonder why they can't live as their >>>>>>>>>> parents did.
And that trillion is used to buy american exports with the money coming
back to USA.
Since we control the supply of global trading currency, how much >>>>>>>> leaves is irrelevant. We just create more.
Which is why inflation is making our money worthless and people can no >>>>>>> longer afford anything.
Really?
Yes, scooter.
The price of gold has gone up more than the rate of inflation, scooter. >>>
1960
Gold $36.50/ounce
Minimum wage $1/hr
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) could buy an ounce of gold >>>>> working just 36.5 hours
2025
Gold $3,330.00/ounce
Minimum wage $7.50/hr 444hrs.
So a worker (ignoring taxes and deductions) can buy an ounce of gold >>>>> working a mere 444hrs.
There is no more gold standard, scooter.
Sure there is.
overtime.. gold has shown that it accurately reflects the value. a meal
costing the same amount in gold, a suit, a home. etc
No, scooter, it does *not*. Just shut the fuck up, scooter. You don't know a >> thing about gold.
And Rudy lashes out because
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:103hleq$2vklr$6@dont-email.me...
On 6/25/2025 11:08 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103hbn4$2sqef$3@dont-email.me...
On 6/25/2025 6:47 AM, Scout wrote:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:ms1m5khsddgck9565qojkc99eoe6hr75l1@4ax.com...
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:50:10 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <103es1f$26nvm$2@dont-email.me> wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103epd7$25ugu$1@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:
"chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:103celo$1gcsr$4@dont-email.me...
Scout wrote:Yep.. I know of companies that had a massive illegal portion of their >>>>>>>>> labor as illegal. The illegals could work for less and take home more,
Of course, if I wanted to be mean I might point out that the only >>>>>>>>>>> reason
employers don't pay more is because illegal aliens are perfectly happy
to do Baxter's former job for that.
You see a lot of 'illegal aliens' getting exempt employment? >>>>>>>>>
because they could claim maximum exemptions because they knew they would
never stick around for an audit much less pay the tax if they were >>>>>>>>> audited.
Stop embarrassing yourself and find out what exempt and non-exempt mean.
I do understand, and it's because we deport the non-exempt leaving companies
without a significant portion of their work force they are working to make
sure those they hire actually are legally here and legally authorized to
work.
I know of one company that lost in excess of $2 million in project delay
penalties after an ICE raid gutted their work for and lord knows how much
they had to pay in fines and on top of that.
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
Sounds like a good start.
Why haven't Republiscum/QAnon regimes *already* taken punitive action
against firms that hire undocumented immigrants, scooter? You know the >>>> reason, scooter: because the business owners *are* Republiscums/QAnon. That
is the reason, scooter.
So you admit Democrats have no head for business.
No, scooter. Most industries that don't employ undocumented workers are led by
Democrats, scooter.
Good,
Good, then you fully support the ICE actions then.. after all, if it's
only hurting Republicans then we know you are for it.
because you're full of shit, scooter. You don't know a fucking thing about gold,
scooter, and in particular why it serves as a store of value.
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan"
<nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to >>>>>>>>>>> pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use >>>>>>>>>>> foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>>>>>> foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance >service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right >now: >https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first >says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency >designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag >next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
On 6/24/2025 9:40 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:35:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103f97l$2a6fg$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
<snip>
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
You're such a Hun. :-D
You always contribute so much to a discussion.
Far more than you, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
Rudy Disappears, Swill shows up... wrote:
Democrats had the chance to step up the plate and stop him.
Be cause Democrats are Magic.
On 25 Jun 2025, "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some news:103i6mf$33dm1$1@dont-email.me:
Rudy Disappears, Swill shows up... wrote:
Democrats had the chance to step up the plate and stop him.
Be cause Democrats are Magic.
62 percent of white liberals have been told by a doctor they have a
mental health condition
https://x.com/NancyRPearcey/status/1822107887851765804?lang=en
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:It can also send dollars.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>>>>>>>> foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency >>> designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso. >>>
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar. >>
They don't.
No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country.
No dollars leave the country in remittances paid to immigrants' families. And >all dollars that leave the country in purchasing imports come back to the >country, either to purchase our exports or to invest.
On 6/25/2025 8:06 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 25 Jun 2025, Paul Jackson wrote:
On 6/23/2025 11:40 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 23 Jun 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <bondrock@ifx.net> posted some
news:phe6Q.1624948$vvyf.751579@fx18.iad:
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote: >>>>>>>>>
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has >>>>>>>>>>> any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action
against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those
illegals come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement? >>>>>>> No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs >>>>>>> from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving"
any Americans of jobs.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
The difference is that in the first case, it's your money, and in
the second, it isn't.
You fucking moron.
Do they have a stool for you to reach the teller window?
Yes, Blowjobs too, they do.
The monkeypox is killing you.
I deserve it,
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 10:45:10 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <GGf7Q.69669$YI%5.19778@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:40 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:35:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103f97l$2a6fg$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
<snip>
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
You're such a Hun. :-D
You always contribute so much to a discussion.
Far more than you, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
How many more names are you going to use Rudy?
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US. Why is that?
On 26 Jun 2025, Allahu Snackbar wrote:
On 6/25/2025 8:06 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese
convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 25 Jun 2025, Paul Jackson wrote:
On 6/23/2025 11:40 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly
obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:
On 23 Jun 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <bondrock@ifx.net> posted some
news:phe6Q.1624948$vvyf.751579@fx18.iad:
On 6/23/2025 7:55 AM, Attila wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:15:42 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<bondrock@ifx.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<jkd6Q.291562$8%X2.248903@fx08.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 7:04 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>> and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:jaad5ktcrlm66jed35vodv2bvoru065k3o@4ax.com...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 07:14:06 +0200, Mark wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
On 19 Jun 2025, short shit Klaus Schadenfreude posted<snip>
Trump has *never* gone after the employers, scooter, nor has >>>>>>>>>>>> any other rabid Republiscum/QAnon president who panders to you >>>>>>>>>>>> Nazis on immigration.
You don't know what's he's done.
We know that Republicans have avoided taking serious action >>>>>>>>>> against employers who hire undocumented workers. Those
illegals come here for jobs, nothing else.
Is unemployment nearly zero?
As close as it's feasible to get, scooter.
Are wages high enough to allow families to survive?
Yes, scooter.
Americans refuse to do, scooter.
How does depriving Americans' of jobs and income an improvement? >>>>>>>> No such "deprivation," scooter. The immigrants are not taking jobs >>>>>>>> from native-born Americans, scooter. They're doing jobs that
Not a problem if they are here legally.
Not a problem no matter how they're here. They're not "depriving"
any Americans of jobs.
Which is allowable:
1. Go to your bank, write a check for cash, and leave with
the money.
2. Go to a bank. Pull a gun. Demand money. Leave with
cash.
The only difference is
The difference is that in the first case, it's your money, and in
the second, it isn't.
You fucking moron.
Do I eat shit and suck cocks?
Yes, Blowjobs, you do.
The monkeypox is killing me.
You deserve it, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* impotent cocksucker.
I fucked around and found out.
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in news:cqjs5k55tpooc545aivusatsv9eulvsg8h@4ax.com:
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US. Why is that?
Because that IS the way it works. You sell me a sheep, I give you 100BaxterFakeMoney - are you going to eat that 100BaxterFakeMoney? The
only place you can spend it is Baxter. Meanwhile, I've barbecued and ate
the sheep.
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in >news:cqjs5k55tpooc545aivusatsv9eulvsg8h@4ax.com:
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US. Why is that?
Because that IS the way it works. You sell me a sheep, I give you >100BaxterFakeMoney - are you going to eat that 100BaxterFakeMoney? The
only place you can spend it is Baxter. Meanwhile, I've barbecued and ate
the sheep.
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>>>>>>>>>> foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency >>>>> designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country.
No dollars leave the country in remittances paid to immigrants' families. And
all dollars that leave the country in purchasing imports come back to the >>> country, either to purchase our exports or to invest.
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US.
No, I am not.
One way or another, all dollars obtained by foreigners come back to the U.S.
Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:Yes dollars are finite. They are printed on paper with green ink. What >planet are you from that paper is infinite? It's made out of trees and
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>>>>>>>>> foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency >>>> designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars. No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country. Which is why a large tax on such transfers has
been suggested.
Rudy wrong again. Is anyone surprised?
Dollars are not a finite resource. Gold is. Should we legislate
against allowing gold to leave the country?
ink is often made from plants. Where's your sense of conservation?
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message >news:dm9r5khi8lip6nlngvcs34hjbef9it6eti@4ax.com...
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 10:45:10 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<GGf7Q.69669$YI%5.19778@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:40 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:35:32 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103f97l$2a6fg$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
Attila wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
<snip>
I would make the penalty a significant percentage of their
yearly gross income. In double digits.
You're such a Hun. :-D
You always contribute so much to a discussion.
Far more than you, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
How many more names are you going to use Rudy?
How many does it take to overload someone's spam filter?
Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:Yes dollars are finite. They are printed on paper with green ink.
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com...
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth
within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those >>>>>>>>>> jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when >>>>>>>>>> foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They
buy
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for >>>>>>>> American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send
U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if
they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?
cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency >>>> designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars. No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country. Which is why a large tax on such transfers has
been suggested.
Rudy wrong again. Is anyone surprised?
Dollars are not a finite resource. Gold is. Should we legislate
against allowing gold to leave the country?
What planet are you from that paper is infinite?
It's made out of trees and ink is often
made from plants. Where's your sense of conservation?
Dollars are not a finite resource. Gold is. Should we legislateYes dollars are finite. They are printed on paper with green ink. What planet are you from that paper is infinite? It's made out of trees and
against allowing gold to leave the country?
ink is often made from plants. Where's your sense of conservation?
Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 00:22:46 -0500, Praetor Mandrake
<horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:
Baxter wrote:
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote inI rented a 2 bedroom apartment. I had no furniture then I bought a $50 >>> kit for a desk and grabbed a chair I saw offered out in front of a wood
news:mc3fvpFijrnU5@mid.individual.net:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 12:54:20 -0500, Praetor Mandrake
<horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:
That's $1250 a month and a studio apartment is $550 per month. Why >>>>>>> will it not pay the rent? Does minimum wage money not go in the >>>>>>> slots, like pennies or something?
Where can you find an apartment for that price? Around here you
can't get a travel trailer for that kind of money. Cheap rents start >>>>>> at half again that much.e
Add utilities for another $300.
Car payment, insurance, upkeep and repair is easily $500 a month.
Food, clothes, health care, furniture ... you're as full of shit as a >>>>>> Thanksgiving turkey.
Utah and Illinois both.
How is furniture a life necessity? You're as full of extravagance as >>>>> a Mar A Lago Resort. I did notice you listed it last. How does it >>>>> feel to say inconsequential things?
So, you're going to eat off the floor?
shop. That was the only furniture I had up to the point I was done
renting there.
soap, shampoo, razor blades, shaving cream, toilet paper, bowl
cleaner, tub cleaner, dish soap, cooking pans and dishes, shoes,
socks, underwear, shirts, pants, a good coat for winter, gloves, a
hat,
I could go on some more but you get the idea. Start with $700 or more
for a hovel in a bad neighborhood then start adding up all the other
stuff you require for life. Been to the grocery store lately? How
much does it cost to feed even one person? If they know how to cook
and how to shop, they might get by on $150 a month.
No, even $15 an hour is barely a living wage. What if you have a
spouse? A couple of kids?
Well.
Check out how the vast majority of workers lived during the Gilded
Age. That is not something we should be aspiring to.
Maybe it's not a popular opinion, but some American families run around like chickens with their heads cut off. I was carefully groomed as a shiny new coin,
built to make money. Great care was taken to guide me to such a route.
From the way my peers are, the only thing their parents did was train them to chase pussy.
Not all bad is such training - no spouse here or kids, which I would really like
to have some day.
However, where's the money supposed to come from to support
such a family?
These peers are 40 yrs old and getting minimum wage jobs?Virtually no one — probably *literally* no one — age 40 and older is earning
Baxter wrote:This is normal. This is what young people do, and have *always* done. There is *no* injustice in it.
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote inI rented a 2 bedroom apartment. I had no furniture then I bought a $50 kit for
news:mc3fvpFijrnU5@mid.individual.net:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 12:54:20 -0500, Praetor Mandrake
<horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:
That's $1250 a month and a studio apartment is $550 per month. Why >>>>> will it not pay the rent? Does minimum wage money not go in the
slots, like pennies or something?
Where can you find an apartment for that price? Around here you
can't get a travel trailer for that kind of money. Cheap rents start >>>> at half again that much.e
Add utilities for another $300.
Car payment, insurance, upkeep and repair is easily $500 a month.
Food, clothes, health care, furniture ... you're as full of shit as a
Thanksgiving turkey.
Utah and Illinois both.
How is furniture a life necessity? You're as full of extravagance as
a Mar A Lago Resort. I did notice you listed it last. How does it
feel to say inconsequential things?
So, you're going to eat off the floor?
a desk and grabbed a chair I saw offered out in front of a wood shop. That was
the only furniture I had up to the point I was done renting there.
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:39:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <ROz7Q.17290$xcB4.10220@fx47.iad> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus SchadenfreudeThey don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families. >>>>>>>>>>
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency
designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter.
Because it's a fact, blowjob.
No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country.
No dollars leave the country in remittances paid to immigrants' families. And
all dollars that leave the country in purchasing imports come back to the >>>> country, either to purchase our exports or to invest.
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US.
No, I am not.
One way or another, all dollars obtained by foreigners come back to the U.S.
Why do you think that?
Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:59:48 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>Yes dollars are finite. They are printed on paper with green ink.
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>> and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, >>>>>>>>>> trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>>>> and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, >>>>>>>>>>>> trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>> message news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila
<prochoice@here.now> wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fines. As measured in a percentage of their gross >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> income.
+1
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay attention to what is ultimately their
responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consenting to pay more for goods and services from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> businesses who decline to use foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more
economic growth within the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of >>>>>>>>>>> what pay is offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans >>>>>>>>>> to those jobs and the businesses still make money, scooter. >>>>>>>>>>
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or
enters into your economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows >>>>>>>>>>> slower, not at all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back
either when foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid
fuckwit. They buy pesos or yuan or whatever and send that.
Selling dollars and buying foreign currency puts downward
pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were >>>>>>>> to send U.S. dollars to their families in their home countries, >>>>>>>> those dollars would come back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency
exchanges, just like scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't
matter if they did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other
remittance service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending
money to Mexico right now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_sr
c=organic_search It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below
that are two boxes. The first says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with
an American flag next to the currency designation. The second says,
"Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag next to the
currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi
rapist liar.
It can also send dollars. No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country. Which is why a large tax on such transfers has
been suggested.
Rudy wrong again. Is anyone surprised?
Dollars are not a finite resource. Gold is. Should we legislate
against allowing gold to leave the country?
What planet are you from that paper is infinite? It's made out of
trees and ink is often made from plants. Where's your sense of
conservation?
Praetor Mandrake wrote:
Dollars are not a finite resource. Gold is. Should we legislateYes dollars are finite. They are printed on paper with green ink. What
against allowing gold to leave the country?
planet are you from that paper is infinite? It's made out of trees and
ink is often made from plants. Where's your sense of conservation?
The bank has a stack of paper money equal to my checking account balance.
Dunce.
On 6/27/2025 5:07 PM, Attila wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:39:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<ROz7Q.17290$xcB4.10220@fx47.iad> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>>>>>>> <kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-idThey don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families. >>>>>>>>>>>
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency
designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter.
It matters, fuckwit.
Because it's a fact, blowjob.
No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country.
No dollars leave the country in remittances paid to immigrants' families. And
all dollars that leave the country in purchasing imports come back to the >>>>> country, either to purchase our exports or to invest.
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US.
No, I am not.
One way or another, all dollars obtained by foreigners come back to the U.S.
Why do you think that?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:41:36 -0700, J Carlson
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <103nh8g$g2n1$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 5:07 PM, Attila wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:39:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<ROz7Q.17290$xcB4.10220@fx47.iad> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>>>>>>>> <kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families. >>>>>>>>>>>>
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency
designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter.
It matters, fuckwit.
Why should it?
Because it's a fact, blowjob.
No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country.
No dollars leave the country in remittances paid to immigrants' families. And
all dollars that leave the country in purchasing imports come back to the
country, either to purchase our exports or to invest.
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US.
No, I am not.
One way or another, all dollars obtained by foreigners come back to the U.S.
Why do you think that?
Just calling something a fact does not make it one
Praetor Mandrake wrote:
Dollars are not a finite resource. Gold is. Should we legislateYes dollars are finite. They are printed on paper with green ink. What >> planet are you from that paper is infinite? It's made out of trees and
against allowing gold to leave the country?
ink is often made from plants. Where's your sense of conservation?
The bank has a stack of paper money equal to my checking account balance.
On 6/28/2025 1:26 AM, Attila wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 18:41:36 -0700, J Carlson
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103nh8g$g2n1$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 5:07 PM, Attila wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:39:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<ROz7Q.17290$xcB4.10220@fx47.iad> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>>>>>>> <notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. They buy
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in >>>>>>>>>> dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency
designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter.
It matters, fuckwit.
Why should it?
Because it demolishes your claim.
Because it's a fact, blowjob.
No matter what the output in the
US the input is dollars and the result is dollars leaving
the country.
No dollars leave the country in remittances paid to immigrants' families. And
all dollars that leave the country in purchasing imports come back to the
country, either to purchase our exports or to invest.
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US.
No, I am not.
One way or another, all dollars obtained by foreigners come back to the U.S.
Why do you think that?
Just calling something a fact does not make it one
Calling it a fact is not what "makes" it a fact it *being* a fact is why I >call it a fact.
On 6/27/2025 9:21 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:103mc1b$72pm$4@dont-email.me...
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
news:cqjs5k55tpooc545aivusatsv9eulvsg8h@4ax.com:
You are assuming the money sent is used to buy imports from
the US. Why is that?
Because that IS the way it works. You sell me a sheep, I give you
100BaxterFakeMoney - are you going to eat that 100BaxterFakeMoney? The
only place you can spend it is Baxter. Meanwhile, I've barbecued and
ate
the sheep.
Actually if BaxterFakeMoney is a world currency.. then I can spend it
with anyone and
It isn't legal tender for anyone but you, scooter.
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:39:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <ROz7Q.17290$xcB4.10220@fx47.iad> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus SchadenfreudeThey don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid >>>>>>>>>> fuckwit. They buy
<kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>>>>> gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>>>>>>> lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of >>>>>>>>>>>>> what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to >>>>>>>>>>>> those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters >>>>>>>>>>>>> into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows >>>>>>>>>>>>> slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either >>>>>>>>>>>> when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families. >>>>>>>>>>
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and >>>>>>>>>> buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier >>>>>>>>>> for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were >>>>>>>>>> to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars >>>>>>>>>> would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, >>>>>>>>>> just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't >>>>>>>> matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other >>>>>> remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to
Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. >>>>>> The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the
currency
designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a
Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican >>>>>> peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist >>>>>> liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter. It is the transfer of wealth - the
medium doesn't matter.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter. It is the transfer of wealth - the
medium doesn't matter.
BINGO...
We have a winner.
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message news:mdcu5kp5nrpc4892q0ejmfm68lrub79fr4@4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:39:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<ROz7Q.17290$xcB4.10220@fx47.iad> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>>>>>>> <kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-idThey don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid fuckwit. >>>>>>>>>>> They buy
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>>>>>> gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:You're an idiot.
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold politicians >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more economic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of what
pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans to >>>>>>>>>>>>> those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or enters >>>>>>>>>>>>>> into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows slower,
not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families. >>>>>>>>>>>
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and buying >>>>>>>>>>> foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier for >>>>>>>>>>> American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were to >>>>>>>>>>> send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those dollars >>>>>>>>>>> would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency exchanges, >>>>>>>>>>> just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't matter
if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other >>>>>>> remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to Mexico
right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?
cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two boxes. The
first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the currency
designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a Mexican
flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi rapist liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter. It is the transfer of wealth - the
medium doesn't matter.
BINGO...
We have a winner.
On 6/30/2025 6:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:mdcu5kp5nrpc4892q0ejmfm68lrub79fr4@4ax.com...
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:39:12 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<ROz7Q.17290$xcB4.10220@fx47.iad> wrote:
On 6/27/2025 1:02 AM, Attila wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 15:51:53 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<dak7Q.56280$z995.46716@fx48.iad> wrote:
On 6/26/2025 12:59 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 09:23:35 -0700, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<bue7Q.202737$sxI1.92519@fx11.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:39 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:49:38 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<kytt@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<S3F6Q.1014$648b.506@fx40.iad> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 1:13 PM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:37:52 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<notgenx32@yahoo.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<103enpg$24nkj$3@dont-email.me> wrote:
On 6/24/2025 9:54 AM, Attila, lying Nazi rapist, lied: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:05:47 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>>>>>>>> <kott@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<f9z6Q.24205$YI%5.12181@fx14.iad> wrote:They don't send U.S. dollars to their families, you stupid >>>>>>>>>>>> fuckwit. They buy
On 6/23/2025 12:12 PM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kott@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Hld6Q.291563$8%X2.54262@fx08.iad...
On 6/23/2025 7:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
news:q69h5k5od6e4i6opfmi7g4f4en1nshkalj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 20:03:00 -0000 (UTC), "P. Coonan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On 21 Jun 2025, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> posted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
news:1036npk$15viq$4@dont-email.me:
On 21/6/25 5:38, Governor Swill wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 17:58:03 -0400, Attila >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <prochoice@here.now>
wrote:
Employers who employ illegals should face really huge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fines.+1
As measured in a percentage of their gross income. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Whether by paying off fines, or abandonning businesses, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
consumers pay.
Consumers pay when they let down their guard and don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay attention to
what is ultimately their responsibility. Hold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians accountable.
If there's a problem, why keep electing those who foster >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it?
You're an idiot.
Consumers can't control illegal immigration except by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consenting to
pay more for goods and services from businesses who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decline to use
foreign labor.
Which means more jobs, better paying jobs, and more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> economic growth within
the US.
No, scooter, it doesn't mean that at all.
Ok, so you're saying no one will do those jobs regardless of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what pay is
offered?
Businesses *cannot* offer enough pay to draw lazy Americans >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to those jobs and
the businesses still make money, scooter.
As far as economic growth, when money remains within or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enters into your
economy
it grows faster. When the money is bleeding out, it grows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slower, not at
all or
even declines.
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back >>>>>>>>>>>>>> either when
foreigners
buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families. >>>>>>>>>>>>
pesos or yuan or whatever and send that. Selling dollars and >>>>>>>>>>>> buying foreign
currency puts downward pressure on the dollar, making it easier >>>>>>>>>>>> for American
firms to export goods and services. Even if the immigrants were >>>>>>>>>>>> to send U.S.
dollars to their families in their home countries, those >>>>>>>>>>>> dollars would come
back
to us.
You don't know a fucking thing about trade or currency >>>>>>>>>>>> exchanges, just like
scooter.
They send it in dollars - for now,
They do not send it in dollars, you stupid fuck. But it wouldn't >>>>>>>>>> matter if they
did.
Western Union and similar wire transfer services pay out in
dollars to the recipient.
Fuck off. You don't know anything about Western Union or any other >>>>>>>> remittance
service. I'm looking at Western Union's page for sending money to >>>>>>>> Mexico right
now:
https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money-to-mexico.html?
cust_src=organic_search
It says, "Send money back home to Mexico." Below that are two
boxes. The first
says, "Send amount 100.00 USD" with an American flag next to the >>>>>>>> currency
designation. The second says, "Receiver gets 1913.08 MXN" with a >>>>>>>> Mexican flag
next to the currency symbol. "MXN" is the currency symbol for
Mexican peso.
Western Union *does* the currency conversion, you fucking Nazi >>>>>>>> rapist liar.
It can also send dollars.
They don't.
They can.
They don't.
It doesn't matter. It is the transfer of wealth - the
medium doesn't matter.
BINGO...
We have a winner.
No, scooter.
No, scooter. Remittances sent to an immigrant's relatives in another country is
not a "loss" for the U.S. The actual dollars stay right here, scooter. "Attila,"
the Nazi, is full of shit, and so are you, scooter.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:19:06 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that circumstance. >>>People earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young
adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates' >>fingers.
Well? Did you find any?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that circumstance. People >> earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young adults *without* >> children.
That's a myth.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates'
fingers.
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that circumstance. People >>> earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young adults *without*
children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates'
fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023. There were 80.5
million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum wage (it's possible to earn less than
the minimum if working on farms or as a family member in a family business). Among those paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married. That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse present. That's 21% of
the total who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a *fact* that
very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that circumstance.
People earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young
adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates'
fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023. There
were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. Of
those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum wage
(it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on farms or as
a family member in a family business). Among those paid at or below
the minimum, 593,000 have never been married. That's more than 68%.
183,000 were married with a spouse present. That's 21% of the total
who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a
*fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are
married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that circumstance.
People earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young
adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates'
fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023. There
were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. Of
those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum wage
(it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on farms or
as a family member in a family business). Among those paid at or
below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married. That's more than
68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse present. That's 21% of the
total who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a
*fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are
married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly believe
it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young unmarried people. Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with
families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as the
BLS statistics prove.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that circumstance.
People earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young
adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates'
fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023. There
were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. Of
those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum wage
(it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on farms or
as a family member in a family business). Among those paid at or
below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married. That's more than
68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse present. That's 21% of the
total who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a
*fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are
married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I was
responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly believe
it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young unmarried people.
Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with
families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as the
BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again.
I'm fully cognizent [sic]
that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:circumstance.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in >>news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
TherePeople earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young >>>>>> adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates'
fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
people.were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. Of
those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum wage
(it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on farms or
as a family member in a family business). Among those paid at or
below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married. That's more than
68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse present. That's 21% of the
total who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a
*fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are
married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I was
responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly believe
it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young unmarried
Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with
families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as the
BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again. Have you gone senile or did a worm eat your brain? I'm
fully cognizent that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), younger
workers tend to make up the largest share of minimum wage earners.
Specifically, workers under age 25, despite representing a smaller
portion of all hourly paid workers, account for a significantly higher percentage of those earning the federal minimum wage or less. In
recent years, this age group has made up over 40% of all minimum wage earners. Teenagers (16 to 19 years old) have a particularly high
likelihood of earning the minimum wage or less compared to older
workers.
On 7/3/2025 12:40 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
circumstance. People earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried
extremely young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
There were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly
wage. Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal
minimum wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if
working on farms or as a family member in a family business). Among
those paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been
married. That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse
present. That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below minimum
wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a
*fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are
married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I was
responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly believe
it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young unmarried
people. Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people
with families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false,
as the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again.
Nope. I'm right, as always.
I'm fully cognizent [sic]
*cognizant*, you illiterate fuckwit.
that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
That wasn't the subject, you illiterate fuckwit. The subject was how
many minimum wage earners are married, and the answer is very few.
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wroteNo, your point was *disproved*, Bugster, with the same data I used. I already gave you the distribution, you stupid lying commie. Here it is again:
in
news:lqnd6k15ep115scl6vjh1h42hb981vq6rk@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksuck ing.dwarf.com:
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:circumstance.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
TherePeople earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely young >>>>>>> adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on associates' >>>>>> fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
people.were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. Of
those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum wage
(it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on farms or
as a family member in a family business). Among those paid at or
below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married. That's more than >>>>> 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse present. That's 21% of the
total who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a
*fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are
married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" ā€” I thought I was >>>> responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly believe
it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young unmarried
Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with
families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as the
BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again. Have you gone senile or did a worm eat your brain? I'm
fully cognizent that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), younger
workers tend to make up the largest share of minimum wage earners.
Specifically, workers under age 25, despite representing a smaller
portion of all hourly paid workers, account for a significantly higher
percentage of those earning the federal minimum wage or less. In
recent years, this age group has made up over 40% of all minimum wage
earners. Teenagers (16 to 19 years old) have a particularly high
likelihood of earning the minimum wage or less compared to older
workers.
You prove my point - 40% is less than most.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in news:9lB9Q.83406$YCgd.43206@fx44.iad:
On 7/3/2025 12:40 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
circumstance. People earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried >>>>>>> extremely young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
There were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly
wage. Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal
minimum wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if
working on farms or as a family member in a family business). Among
those paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been
married. That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse
present. That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below minimum
wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is a
*fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower) are
married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I was
responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly believe
it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young unmarried
people. Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people
with families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false,
as the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again.
Nope. I'm right, as always.
Like hell you are.
I'm fully cognizent [sic]
*cognizant*, you illiterate fuckwit.
Spelling nazi.
that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
That wasn't the subject, you illiterate fuckwit. The subject was how
many minimum wage earners are married, and the answer is very few.
That was Governor Swill's subject, then you changed the subject by
opining about what I do or do not beleive.
<who cares about the rest of your BS?>
On 7/3/2025 4:18 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:9lB9Q.83406$YCgd.43206@fx44.iad:
On 7/3/2025 12:40 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
circumstance. People earning $15/hour are teenagers or
unmarried extremely young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
There were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly
wage. Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal
minimum wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if
working on farms or as a family member in a family business).
Among those paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been
married. That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse
present. That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below minimum
wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is
a *fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower)
are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I
was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly
believe it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young
unmarried people. Regardless of who believes there are lots of
married people with families earning minimum wage, the belief is
absolutely false, as the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again.
Nope. I'm right, as always.
Like hell you are.
Nope. I'm right and you're wrong.
==========I'm fully cognizent [sic]
*cognizant*, you illiterate fuckwit.
Spelling nazi.
You're illiterate, you fucking commie.
that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
That wasn't the subject, you illiterate fuckwit. The subject was how
many minimum wage earners are married, and the answer is very few.
That was Governor Swill's subject, then you changed the subject by
opining about what I do or do not beleive.
<who cares about the rest of your BS?>
You snipped it because it proves you wrong. Here it is again:
On 7/3/2025 4:13 PM, Baxter wrote:
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>No, your point was *disproved*, Bugster, with the same data I used. I
wrote in
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[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:circumstance.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
TherePeople earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely
young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
people.were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage.
Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum
wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on
farms or as a family member in a family business). Among those
paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married.
That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse present.
That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is
a *fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower)
are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong
beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" ā€” I thought
I was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly
believe it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young
unmarried
Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with
families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as
the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again. Have you gone senile or did a worm eat your brain?
I'm fully cognizent that most minimum wage earners are not
teenagers.
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), younger
workers tend to make up the largest share of minimum wage earners.
Specifically, workers under age 25, despite representing a smaller
portion of all hourly paid workers, account for a significantly
higher percentage of those earning the federal minimum wage or less.
In recent years, this age group has made up over 40% of all minimum
wage earners. Teenagers (16 to 19 years old) have a particularly
high likelihood of earning the minimum wage or less compared to
older workers.
You prove my point - 40% is less than most.
already gave you the distribution, you stupid lying commie. Here it is
again:
Total % Total % at
Age paid or below
_range_ _hourly_ _minimum_
16-24 20.6 44.4
25-34 23.5 26.1
35-44 18.9 12.9
45-54 16.4 7.9
55-64 14.8 5.6
65 and older 5.8 3.1
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So people age 16-24 are 20.6% of all people paid hourly wages, but
they are 44.4% of people earning minimum wage. And as I said the first
time and you were too stupid to understand, as age increases, the
percentage of that cohort earning minimum wage falls continuously.
Minimum wage earners are mostly young people, and they mostly are not married. People are not commonly "raising families" on minimum wage
jobs. This is not in rational dispute.
Your beliefs about minimum wage are bullshit.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in news:gRE9Q.363143$wybc.300613@fx17.iad:
On 7/3/2025 4:18 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:9lB9Q.83406$YCgd.43206@fx44.iad:
On 7/3/2025 12:40 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
circumstance. People earning $15/hour are teenagers or
unmarried extremely young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
There were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly >>>>>>> wage. Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal
minimum wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if
working on farms or as a family member in a family business).
Among those paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been >>>>>>> married. That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse >>>>>>> present. That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below minimum >>>>>>> wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is >>>>>>> a *fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower)
are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong >>>>>>> beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I
was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly
believe it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young
unmarried people. Regardless of who believes there are lots of
married people with families earning minimum wage, the belief is
absolutely false, as the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again.
Nope. I'm right, as always.
Like hell you are.
Nope. I'm right and you're wrong.
You're adamantly stupid
==========
I'm fully cognizent [sic]
*cognizant*, you illiterate fuckwit.
Spelling nazi.
You're illiterate, you fucking commie.
AI Overview
No, intelligence and spelling ability are not directly correlated.
No, I didn't snip because "it proved me wrong",
that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
That wasn't the subject, you illiterate fuckwit. The subject was how
many minimum wage earners are married, and the answer is very few.
That was Governor Swill's subject, then you changed the subject by
opining about what I do or do not beleive.
<who cares about the rest of your BS?>
You snipped it because it proves you wrong. Here it is again:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in news:oSE9Q.363144$wybc.214554@fx17.iad:44.4% of minimum wage earners are very young people, Bugster, you illiterate innumerate fucking commie, and another 13.7% of them — those aged 25-29 — are
On 7/3/2025 4:13 PM, Baxter wrote:So anybody below 65 is "young people"?!!
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>No, your point was *disproved*, Bugster, with the same data I used. I
wrote in
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[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:circumstance.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
TherePeople earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely >>>>>>>>> young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
people.were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. >>>>>>> Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum >>>>>>> wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on
farms or as a family member in a family business). Among those
paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married.
That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse present. >>>>>>> That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It is >>>>>>> a *fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or lower)
are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his wrong >>>>>>> beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" ā€” I thought >>>>>> I was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly
believe it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young
unmarried
Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with
families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as
the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again. Have you gone senile or did a worm eat your brain?
I'm fully cognizent that most minimum wage earners are not
teenagers.
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), younger
workers tend to make up the largest share of minimum wage earners.
Specifically, workers under age 25, despite representing a smaller
portion of all hourly paid workers, account for a significantly
higher percentage of those earning the federal minimum wage or less.
In recent years, this age group has made up over 40% of all minimum
wage earners. Teenagers (16 to 19 years old) have a particularly
high likelihood of earning the minimum wage or less compared to
older workers.
You prove my point - 40% is less than most.
already gave you the distribution, you stupid lying commie. Here it is
again:
Total % Total % at
Age paid or below
_range_ _hourly_ _minimum_
16-24 20.6 44.4
25-34 23.5 26.1
35-44 18.9 12.9
45-54 16.4 7.9
55-64 14.8 5.6
65 and older 5.8 3.1
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So people age 16-24 are 20.6% of all people paid hourly wages, but
they are 44.4% of people earning minimum wage. And as I said the first
time and you were too stupid to understand, as age increases, the
percentage of that cohort earning minimum wage falls continuously.
Minimum wage earners are mostly young people, and they mostly are not
married. People are not commonly "raising families" on minimum wage
jobs. This is not in rational dispute.
Your beliefs about minimum wage are bullshit.
On 7/3/2025 5:32 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:gRE9Q.363143$wybc.300613@fx17.iad:
On 7/3/2025 4:18 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:9lB9Q.83406$YCgd.43206@fx44.iad:
On 7/3/2025 12:40 PM, Baxter wrote:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
circumstance. People earning $15/hour are teenagers or
unmarried extremely young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023. >>>>>>>> There were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an
hourly wage. Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the
federal minimum wage (it's possible to earn less than the
minimum if working on farms or as a family member in a family
business). Among those paid at or below the minimum, 593,000
have never been married. That's more than 68%. 183,000 were
married with a spouse present. That's 21% of the total who are >>>>>>>> paid at or below minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It >>>>>>>> is a *fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or
lower) are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his
wrong beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" — I thought I
was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would wrongly
believe it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are young
unmarried people. Regardless of who believes there are lots of
married people with families earning minimum wage, the belief is >>>>>>> absolutely false, as the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again.
Nope. I'm right, as always.
Like hell you are.
Nope. I'm right and you're wrong.
You're adamantly stupid
==========
I'm fully cognizent [sic]
*cognizant*, you illiterate fuckwit.
Spelling nazi.
You're illiterate, you fucking commie.
AI Overview
No, intelligence and spelling ability are not directly correlated.
Spelling ability and *literacy* absolutely are correlated, you stupid illiterate commie.
No, I didn't snip because "it proved me wrong",
that most minimum wage earners are not teenagers.
That wasn't the subject, you illiterate fuckwit. The subject was
how many minimum wage earners are married, and the answer is very
few.
That was Governor Swill's subject, then you changed the subject by
opining about what I do or do not beleive.
<who cares about the rest of your BS?>
You snipped it because it proves you wrong. Here it is again:
Yes, that's exactly why you snipped it, Bugster. You want to claim
that there are lots of older and married workers trying to raise
families while being paid minimum wage, and you are simply wrong:
*most* minimum wage earners are very young, and there are *very few*
minimum wage earners who are married and raising families.
It's a hard fact: *most* minimum wage earners are unmarried young
people, and they acquire skills and begin earning more than minimum
wage. You're fucked, Bugster. Your commie beliefs are false.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in news:oSE9Q.363144$wybc.214554@fx17.iad:
On 7/3/2025 4:13 PM, Baxter wrote:So anybody below 65 is "young people"?!!
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>No, your point was *disproved*, Bugster, with the same data I used. I
wrote in
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[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:circumstance.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
TherePeople earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely >>>>>>>>> young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
people.were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. >>>>>>> Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum >>>>>>> wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on
farms or as a family member in a family business). Among those
paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married.
That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse
present. That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below
minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It
is a *fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or
lower) are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his
wrong beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" ā€” I
thought I was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would
wrongly believe it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are
young unmarried
Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with
families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as
the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again. Have you gone senile or did a worm eat your brain?
I'm fully cognizent that most minimum wage earners are not
teenagers.
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), younger
workers tend to make up the largest share of minimum wage earners.
Specifically, workers under age 25, despite representing a smaller
portion of all hourly paid workers, account for a significantly
higher percentage of those earning the federal minimum wage or
less. In recent years, this age group has made up over 40% of all
minimum wage earners. Teenagers (16 to 19 years old) have a
particularly high likelihood of earning the minimum wage or less
compared to older workers.
You prove my point - 40% is less than most.
already gave you the distribution, you stupid lying commie. Here it
is again:
Total % Total % at
Age paid or below
_range_ _hourly_ _minimum_
16-24 20.6 44.4
25-34 23.5 26.1
35-44 18.9 12.9
45-54 16.4 7.9
55-64 14.8 5.6
65 and older 5.8 3.1
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So people age 16-24 are 20.6% of all people paid hourly wages, but
they are 44.4% of people earning minimum wage. And as I said the
first time and you were too stupid to understand, as age increases,
the percentage of that cohort earning minimum wage falls
continuously.
Minimum wage earners are mostly young people, and they mostly are not
married. People are not commonly "raising families" on minimum wage
jobs. This is not in rational dispute.
Your beliefs about minimum wage are bullshit.
On 03 Jul 2025, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some news:10477m5$ejim$3@dont-email.me:
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:oSE9Q.363144$wybc.214554@fx17.iad:
On 7/3/2025 4:13 PM, Baxter wrote:So anybody below 65 is "young people"?!!
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>No, your point was *disproved*, Bugster, with the same data I used. I
wrote in
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s uck ing.dwarf.com:
[Default] Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> typed:circumstance.
Bill Litchfield <billy@kick.wieber> wrote in
news:kNx9Q.75327$QkNb.13720@fx37.iad:
On 7/3/2025 8:34 AM, Bill Litchfield wrote:
On 6/30/2025 3:19 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 17:40:19 -0700, Bill Litchfield wrote:
Virtually *no one* earning $15 per hour lives in that
TherePeople earning $15/hour are teenagers or unmarried extremely >>>>>>>>>> young adults *without* children.
That's a myth.
It's not a myth, Bugster.
Next time you're at Walmart, check for wedding rings on
associates' fingers.
The latest BLS minimum wage characteristics data are from 2023.
people.were 80.5 million people in the labor force paid an hourly wage. >>>>>>>> Of those, only 869,000 were paid at or below the federal minimum >>>>>>>> wage (it's possible to earn less than the minimum if working on >>>>>>>> farms or as a family member in a family business). Among those >>>>>>>> paid at or below the minimum, 593,000 have never been married. >>>>>>>> That's more than 68%. 183,000 were married with a spouse
present. That's 21% of the total who are paid at or below
minimum wage.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So, once again, Bugster, I'm right and you're full of shit. It >>>>>>>> is a *fact* that very few people paid the minimum wage (or
lower) are married.
Prediction: Bugster, the commie, will try to stick with his
wrong beliefs despite the data proving him wrong.
I was mistaken about who posted "that's a myth" ā€” I
thought I was responding to Bugster, and of course he also would >>>>>>> wrongly believe it's a myth that most minimum wage earners are
young unmarried
Regardless of who believes there are lots of married people with >>>>>>> families earning minimum wage, the belief is absolutely false, as >>>>>>> the BLS statistics prove.
Wrong again. Have you gone senile or did a worm eat your brain?
I'm fully cognizent that most minimum wage earners are not
teenagers.
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), younger
workers tend to make up the largest share of minimum wage earners.
Specifically, workers under age 25, despite representing a smaller
portion of all hourly paid workers, account for a significantly
higher percentage of those earning the federal minimum wage or
less. In recent years, this age group has made up over 40% of all
minimum wage earners. Teenagers (16 to 19 years old) have a
particularly high likelihood of earning the minimum wage or less
compared to older workers.
You prove my point - 40% is less than most.
already gave you the distribution, you stupid lying commie. Here it
is again:
Total % Total % at
Age paid or below
_range_ _hourly_ _minimum_
16-24 20.6 44.4
25-34 23.5 26.1
35-44 18.9 12.9
45-54 16.4 7.9
55-64 14.8 5.6
65 and older 5.8 3.1
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2023/
So people age 16-24 are 20.6% of all people paid hourly wages, but
they are 44.4% of people earning minimum wage. And as I said the
first time and you were too stupid to understand, as age increases,
the percentage of that cohort earning minimum wage falls
continuously.
Minimum wage earners are mostly young people, and they mostly are not
married. People are not commonly "raising families" on minimum wage
jobs. This is not in rational dispute.
Your beliefs about minimum wage are bullshit.
They are in this day and age. There are some hot looking 65-year-old
cougars out there. Try getting out of your shed more often.
In article <mc3gbjFijrnU10@mid.individual.net>
Praetor Mandrake <horchata12839@gmail.com> wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 12:54:01 -0400, Attila wrote:That's the reason they are killing pennies. Each one costs three
The money is not "bleeding out," scooter. It comes back either
when foreigners buy our goods, or when they invest here.
Except for the part they send back home to their families.
You guys act like money is some finite resource.
cents to produce. I hear the nickel is a loss too.
FYI, the US has never minted pennies. It has however minted cents.
Take a look at one and see what is says on the reverse.
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