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    From jojo@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Thu Jul 10 23:29:40 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    chine.bleu wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 7/9/2025 1:52 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 7/6/2025 12:20 PM, AlleyCat wrote:
    Experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’
    ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management
    officials.

    By Christopher Flavelle
    Published July 5, 2025 | Updated July 6, 2025, 12:40 p.m. ET

    Crucial positions at the local offices of the National
    Weather Service
    were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central
    Texas on
    Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether
    staffing
    shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to
    coordinate with
    local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.

    Texas officials appeared to blame the Weather Service for
    issuing
    forecasts on Wednesday that underestimated how much rain was
    coming.
    But former Weather Service officials said the forecasts were
    as good
    as could be expected, given the enormous levels of rainfall
    and the
    storm’s unusually abrupt escalation.

    The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those
    former
    officials said — the loss of experienced people who would
    typically
    have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours
    after
    flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

    The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized
    as the
    death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have
    emerged
    about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr
    County’s
    apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county,
    roughly 50
    miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths
    occurred.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnings- >>>>>
    vacancies.html?
    unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.FmX-.UqCT2EXTloky&smid=url-share


    Trump is to blame for gutting the NWS, of course. Trump is
    not to
    blame for shithole red Kerr County in shithole red Texas not
    having a
    flood warning system. The stupid Trump-supporting locals are
    to blame.

    Yep, it's impossible to fine-tune any organization so that it
    is 100%
    efficient, which means, that to be fully staffed, any
    organization needs
    to be over-staffed, if only by a little bit.

    Of course, we'll never know with absolute certainty if any
    additional
    NWS forecasters would have saved these hundreds of living
    human beings
    from the horrific & terrifying deaths that they all
    experienced; their
    pitiless screams, tears & cries have, along with them, been
    forever
    lost.

    Dawn

    They are the adults in the room.


    Hi Siri,

    It's been awhile.  Having said that, I don't understand your
    comment;
    likely, the adults were screaming, too, at least some of them.

    Dawn

    I do not claim them to be intelligent or mature adults, but they
    are the ones who want to be in charge, so they represent the
    county, and it is their decisions children have to live with.

    A long time policy of Congress is to take a little from other
    states to protect people in the target state.

    States can get stuck with unfortunate geology, weather, insects.
    Good neighbours help, but it is still up to the state to identify
    needs, propose solutions, and pay at least a part of it.


    you are siri?! you should have made an announcement of your name
    change!! i thought you were a chinese guy.

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  • From Roderick@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 11 12:34:29 2025
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    XPost: alt.fun, alt.politics.democrats.d

    On 10 Jul 2025, jojo <f00@0f0.00f> posted some news:bcb8290f-8a14-be63-0f65-bd3bf81390f4@shinku.aoyagi.konjou:

    chine.bleu wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 7/9/2025 1:52 PM, chine.bleu wrote:
    Dawn Flood wrote:
    On 7/6/2025 12:20 PM, AlleyCat wrote:
    Experts say staff shortages might have complicated forecasters’ >>>>>> ability to coordinate responses with local emergency management
    officials.

    By Christopher Flavelle
    Published July 5, 2025 | Updated July 6, 2025, 12:40 p.m. ET

    Crucial positions at the local offices of the National
    Weather Service
    were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central
    Texas on
    Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether
    staffing
    shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to
    coordinate with
    local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.

    Texas officials appeared to blame the Weather Service for
    issuing
    forecasts on Wednesday that underestimated how much rain was
    coming.
    But former Weather Service officials said the forecasts were
    as good
    as could be expected, given the enormous levels of rainfall
    and the
    storm’s unusually abrupt escalation.

    The staffing shortages suggested a separate problem, those
    former
    officials said — the loss of experienced people who would
    typically
    have helped communicate with local authorities in the hours
    after
    flash flood warnings were issued overnight.

    The shortages are among the factors likely to be scrutinized
    as the
    death toll climbs from the floods. Separate questions have
    emerged
    about the preparedness of local communities, including Kerr
    County’s
    apparent lack of a local flood warning system. The county,
    roughly 50
    miles northwest of San Antonio, is where many of the deaths
    occurred.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/us/politics/texas-floods-warnin >>>>>> gs-

    vacancies.html?
    unlocked_article_code=1.UU8.FmX-.UqCT2EXTloky&smid=url-share


    Trump is to blame for gutting the NWS, of course. Trump is
    not to
    blame for shithole red Kerr County in shithole red Texas not
    having a
    flood warning system. The stupid Trump-supporting locals are
    to blame.

    Yep, it's impossible to fine-tune any organization so that it
    is 100%
    efficient, which means, that to be fully staffed, any
    organization needs
    to be over-staffed, if only by a little bit.

    Of course, we'll never know with absolute certainty if any
    additional
    NWS forecasters would have saved these hundreds of living
    human beings
    from the horrific & terrifying deaths that they all
    experienced; their
    pitiless screams, tears & cries have, along with them, been
    forever
    lost.

    Dawn

    They are the adults in the room.


    Hi Siri,

    It's been awhile.  Having said that, I don't understand your
    comment;
    likely, the adults were screaming, too, at least some of them.

    Dawn

    I do not claim them to be intelligent or mature adults, but they
    are the ones who want to be in charge, so they represent the
    county, and it is their decisions children have to live with.

    A long time policy of Congress is to take a little from other
    states to protect people in the target state.

    States can get stuck with unfortunate geology, weather, insects.
    Good neighbours help, but it is still up to the state to identify
    needs, propose solutions, and pay at least a part of it.


    you are siri?! you should have made an announcement of your name
    change!! i thought you were a chinese guy.

    It's really Rudy pretending to be a fem again.

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