I note it's time for a refresher.
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are not
the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message news:105kjmi$3qgu7$1@dont-email.me...
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:105ls73$2ttoc$1@dont-email.me:
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
On 7/21/2025 11:12 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message news:105kjmi$3qgu7$1@dont-email.me...
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
"J Carlson" <notgenx32@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:105m06j$2ufra$2@dont-email.me...
On 7/21/2025 11:12 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside
are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that
they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
However, I'm willing to learn. Please tell us exactly what you feel
they 'envisioned' and back that feeling with supporting facts.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >>news:105ls73$2ttoc$1@dont-email.me:
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's not
going to happen.
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >>news:105ls73$2ttoc$1@dont-email.me:
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's not
going to happen.
On 7/21/2025 4:09 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:37:26 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper
and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
Iraq has had armed militias roaming its countryside for years. “Peaceful”
and “civilized” were not words that came to mind during that time.
“Peaceful” and “civilized” are descriptions of societies where you can
walk down the street with your head held high, without fear of being shot
at.
These are societies where parents don’t have to worry about buying
bulletproof backpacks, to try to ensure their kids survive their school
years.
None of them keep “armed militias” hanging around.
In particular, these societies are not "peaceful and civilized" societies
as a *result of* any militias.
scooter clings to a myth about the American citizen militia that *never*
was true: the militia *never* repelled a foreign invasion, and *never*
took down a tyrannical government. The only thing armed militias did in
the past was to serve as slave patrols, both to apprehend escaped slaves
and to suppress slave rebellions.
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are >>>>>> not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they >>>>> have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is
No, scooter, there isn't.
However, I'm willing to learn. Please tell us exactly what you feel they
'envisioned' and back that feeling with supporting facts.
The founders, scooter, saw the militia as an organized force with known commanders, training, and a mechanism for calling it out. You know,
scooter: the whole "well regulated" thing.
Further if there are not such militia.. is it because laws prohibit them
or those things which they would need to have to be such a militia?
It's because there's no structure, either in organization or known commanders; no instruction; no mechanism for calling it out.
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wrote in message news:sKwfQ.1479575$sxI1.1470586@fx11.iad...
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the militia.
As for
the lack of any structure, that's not needed until or unless they are
called out, and failure to provide for any of this doesn't not
interfere with the people's right to arms. For the citizens can, do
and will regulate themselves as needed in times of need.
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are >>>>> not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they >>>> have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's not
going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in news:105o2sr$gc0r$1@dont-email.me:
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On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the militia.
Show us this law.
As for
the lack of any structure, that's not needed until or unless they are
called out, and failure to provide for any of this doesn't not
interfere with the people's right to arms. For the citizens can, do
and will regulate themselves as needed in times of need.
Show us where that has ever happened.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
Governor Swill wrote:
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
Louisiana fought the British in New Orleans in 1815. I was not able to find out
if our side was Louisiana militia. Did Maryland or Virginia defend the Potomac?
California was attacked in 1942. I do not know if the US Army or California Guard responded.
There was no battle when Oregon was attacked.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's not
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they >>>>> have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are >>>>>> not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wroteShow us this law.
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the militia.
He can't and he won't.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are >>>>>> not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they >>>>> have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful
nation.
they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
not going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's not
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they >>>>> have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are >>>>>> not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
As noted above, militias have risen up *against* the US, not *for* it.
Its like saying you have no freedom of the press unless you have a
government issued printing press and an government appointed editor to
tell you want to write, when to write it and whe then decides if you
will even be allowed to print it.
Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful
nation.
they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
not going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
As noted above, militias have risen up *against* the US, not *for*
it.
The Russians are Coming!
The Russians are Coming!
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 10:20:52 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
Louisiana fought the British in New Orleans in 1815. I was not able to
find out if our side was Louisiana militia.
That was regular army under General Jackson.
Did Maryland or Virginia
defend the Potomac?
Not as states or state militias, no. The militias of the various
states were recruited into and trained by the regular army.
California was attacked in 1942. I do not know if the US Army or
California Guard responded.
Attacked by who? Japan?
There was no battle when Oregon was attacked.
?
On 7/22/2025 10:56 AM, Scout typed::
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There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of the
unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women, teenage boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer, scooter, and they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
In news:XaRfQ.4$Tc12.1@fx17.iad, "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> forged:
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There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of the
unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women,
teenage
boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer, scooter, and
they
are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
By federal law... but states define their own militias.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low standards, Cunt Flaps.
RCW 38.04.030
Composition of the militia.
The militia of the state of Washington shall consist of all able bodied citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, residing within this state, who shall be more than eighteen years of age, and shall include all persons who are members of the national guard and the state guard, and said militia shall be divided into two classes, the organized militia and the unorganized militia.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside >>>>>>>> are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>> they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women,
teenage boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer,
scooter, and they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low standards, scooter.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wroteShow us this law.
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the militia.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, scooter.
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, scooter.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's not >>>>> going to happen.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>> they
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside >>>>>>>> are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
That's not "time and time again," scooter. And the militia was *utterly* ineffective in that conflict.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 18:13:56 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>"Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>>> they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful
nation.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
not going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily described them
in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:16:35 -0400, Scout wrote:
Its like saying you have no freedom of the press unless you have a
government issued printing press and an government appointed editor to
tell you want to write, when to write it and whe then decides if you
will even be allowed to print it.
Well, you see, the difference is, a printing press is a constructive tool, whereas a gun is just a destructive weapon.
A printing press can be used to print books and magazines and sheet music
and brochures and whatnot -- all useful, peaceful, constructive kinds of things, that can inform and entertain people, or entice them to buy nice things.
Whereas all a gun can do is blow holes in things.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are >>>>>> not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that they >>>>> have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
Iraq has had armed militias roaming its countryside for years.
“Peaceful”
and “civilized” were not words that came to mind during that time. >>>>
“Peaceful” and “civilized” are descriptions of societies where you can
walk down the street with your head held high, without fear of being
shot
at.
These are societies where parents don’t have to worry about buying
bulletproof backpacks, to try to ensure their kids survive their school >>>> years.
None of them keep “armed militias” hanging around.
In particular, these societies are not "peaceful and civilized"
societies as a *result of* any militias.
scooter clings to a myth about the American citizen militia that *never* >>> was true: the militia *never* repelled a foreign invasion, and *never*
took down a tyrannical government. The only thing armed militias did in
the past was to serve as slave patrols, both to apprehend escaped slaves >>> and to suppress slave rebellions.
Well if we only look at the history of Democrats,
No, scooter. The parties switched on race, scooter.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wroteShow us this law.
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the militia.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, scooter.
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented to you before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia have been posted, scooter.
It would be impossible, scooter, because there *is* no such mechanism.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside >>>>>>>>>> are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>>>> they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women,
teenage boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer,
scooter, and they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
And you think those are the only people going deer hunting on opening
day?
Deer hunting has nothing to do with the unorganized militia, scooter.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's not >>>>>>> going to happen.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>>>> they
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside >>>>>>>>>> are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was >>>>> driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against >>>>> them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
That's not "time and time again," scooter. And the militia was *utterly* >>> ineffective in that conflict.
Well several times they were very effective.
No, scooter.
In Citizen Soldiers in the War of 1812, Skeen investigates militia
participation at the state level and its use to supplement regular
forces. He
also provides an overview of militia performance and concludes that
these
troops were ineffective for carrying out the war.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's >>>>>>>> not going to happen.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrotetroops against "armed militias" (Shay's
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>>>>> they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful >>>>>>>>>>> nation.
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was >>>>>> driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against >>>>>> them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily described them
in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
Why bother when Rudy has shown time and time again that the facts don't
matter to him.
The facts do matter to me, scooter, but you don't have any.
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On 7/21/2025 4:09 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:37:26 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside >>>>>>>> are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>> they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
Iraq has had armed militias roaming its countryside for years.
“Peaceful”
and “civilized” were not words that came to mind during that time. >>>>>>
“Peaceful” and “civilized” are descriptions of societies where you
can
walk down the street with your head held high, without fear of being >>>>>> shot
at.
These are societies where parents don’t have to worry about buying >>>>>> bulletproof backpacks, to try to ensure their kids survive their
school
years.
None of them keep “armed militias” hanging around.
In particular, these societies are not "peaceful and civilized"
societies as a *result of* any militias.
scooter clings to a myth about the American citizen militia that
*never* was true: the militia *never* repelled a foreign invasion, and >>>>> *never* took down a tyrannical government. The only thing armed
militias did in the past was to serve as slave patrols, both to
apprehend escaped slaves and to suppress slave rebellions.
Well if we only look at the history of Democrats,
No, scooter. The parties switched on race, scooter.
So you continue to claim,
So I have proved beyond any possibility of refutation, scooter.
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"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wrote
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the militia. >>>>>>>> Show us this law.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, scooter.
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia,
scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented to you
before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for calling out
the unorganized militia have been posted, scooter.
I have repeatedly.
Not once, scooter. What you posted were statutes defining the composition
of the militia. *None* of them described or defined a mechanism for
calling out the unorganized militia, scooter.
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" wroteAgreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's >>>>>>>>> not
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>>> that they
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who >>>>>>> was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against >>>>>>> them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
That's not "time and time again," scooter. And the militia was
*utterly* ineffective in that conflict.
Well several times they were very effective.
No, scooter.
In Citizen Soldiers in the War of 1812, Skeen investigates militia
participation at the state level and its use to supplement regular
forces. He
also provides an overview of militia performance and concludes that
these
troops were ineffective for carrying out the war.
They weren't there to be "carrying out the war", they were there to serve
as the militia,
And they were *atrocious* as a military force, scooter: untrained, disorganized, cut-and-run, etc.
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>>> that they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
George Washington himself had lead
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women,
teenage boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer,
scooter, and they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
And you think those are the only people going deer hunting on opening
day?
Deer hunting has nothing to do with the unorganized militia, scooter.
Sure it does.
No, scooter, it doesn't.
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's >>>>>>>>>> not going to happen."Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrotetroops against "armed militias" (Shay's
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>>>> that
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the >>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful >>>>>>>>>>>>> nation.
they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who >>>>>>>> was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms
against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily described them >>>>> in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
Why bother when Rudy has shown time and time again that the facts don't >>>> matter to him.
The facts do matter to me, scooter, but you don't have any.
First you say they matter to you.. then deny they exist when I present
them to you.
You haven't presented any, scooter.
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I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside >>>>>>>>>> are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>>>> they
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well.
Iraq has had armed militias roaming its countryside for years. >>>>>>>> “Peaceful”
and “civilized” were not words that came to mind during that time. >>>>>>>>
“Peaceful” and “civilized” are descriptions of societies where you
can
walk down the street with your head held high, without fear of >>>>>>>> being shot
at.
These are societies where parents don’t have to worry about buying >>>>>>>> bulletproof backpacks, to try to ensure their kids survive their >>>>>>>> school
years.
None of them keep “armed militias” hanging around.
In particular, these societies are not "peaceful and civilized"
societies as a *result of* any militias.
scooter clings to a myth about the American citizen militia that >>>>>>> *never* was true: the militia *never* repelled a foreign invasion, >>>>>>> and *never* took down a tyrannical government. The only thing armed >>>>>>> militias did in the past was to serve as slave patrols, both to
apprehend escaped slaves and to suppress slave rebellions.
Well if we only look at the history of Democrats,
No, scooter. The parties switched on race, scooter.
So you continue to claim,
So I have proved beyond any possibility of refutation, scooter.
Then you can present that proof here and now.
I did in the last post, scooter, but you unethically snipped it.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wrote
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the militia. >>>>>>>>>> Show us this law.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, scooter. >>>>>>>
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia,
scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented to you
before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for calling out >>>>> the unorganized militia have been posted, scooter.
I have repeatedly.
Not once, scooter. What you posted were statutes defining the
composition of the militia. *None* of them described or defined a
mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, scooter.
So you didn't bother to actually look at all of them.
I looked at all of them, scooter, and none specified a *mechanism* for calling up the unorganized militia. They addressed the *authority* of the governor to do so. That's not a mechanism, scooter.
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On 7/22/2025 10:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>> lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's >>>>>>>>>>> not"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrotetroops against "armed militias" (Shay's
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>>>>> that they
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who >>>>>>>>> was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms >>>>>>>>> against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
That's not "time and time again," scooter. And the militia was
*utterly* ineffective in that conflict.
Well several times they were very effective.
No, scooter.
In Citizen Soldiers in the War of 1812, Skeen investigates militia >>>>> participation at the state level and its use to supplement regular >>>>> forces. He
also provides an overview of militia performance and concludes that >>>>> these
troops were ineffective for carrying out the war.
They weren't there to be "carrying out the war", they were there to
serve as the militia,
And they were *atrocious* as a military force, scooter: untrained,
disorganized, cut-and-run, etc.
In some cases,
In *all* cases, scooter.
That's why so many books have been written about it, all of them concluding >it was an ineffective force.
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 18:13:56 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:qggv7klgo8qanphs1ikiof7ke2ipf4dlku@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. >>>>>>>>>>>> That's"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrotetroops against "armed militias" (Shay's
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation.
they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
not going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who >>>>>>>>>> was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms >>>>>>>>>> against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily described >>>>>>> them
in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
Why bother when Rudy has shown time and time again that the facts
don't matter to him.
The facts do matter to me, scooter, but you don't have any.
First you say they matter to you.. then deny they exist when I present >>>> them to you.
You haven't presented any, scooter.
Repeating your denial doesn't alter the truth. I posted it,
You didn't, scooter — no mechanism. This is settled, scooter.
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message news:105prr0$s1k9$4@dont-email.me...
In news:XaRfQ.4$Tc12.1@fx17.iad, "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com>
forged:
On 7/22/2025 10:56 AM, Scout typed::
"Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> forged in message
news:0LNfQ.133786$FIUe.37894@fx35.iad...
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout typed:
""Cunt Flaps" Canoza <notgenx32@yahoo.com> forged in message
news:105m06j$2ufra$2@dont- email.me...
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of the
unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women, teenage >>> boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer, scooter, and >>> they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
By federal law... but states define their own militias.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low standards, Cunt >> Flaps.
RCW 38.04.030
Composition of the militia.
The militia of the state of Washington shall consist of all able bodied
citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who have
declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, residing >> within this state, who shall be more than eighteen years of age, and shall >> include all persons who are members of the national guard and the state
guard, and said militia shall be divided into two classes, the organized
militia and the unorganized militia.
Excellent point.. lets add to it
44-1. Composition of militia.
The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States and all other able-bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least 16 years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years of age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National Guard, which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; the Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia.
So women count as do 16 & 17 year olds. Further any not older than 55 unless exclusions apply.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message news:105pc2e$m7bk$6@dont-email.me...
Whereas all a gun can do is blow holes in things.
Which depending on what, when and why such holes are being made can be a WONDERFUL thing.
A head shot to a terrorist about to detonate a bomb that will kill
hundreds, thousands or even millions can be a very good thing.
A shot to get meat to feed a starving family can be a very useful thing. Freeing a country by shooting an oppressive despot can save thousands of lives and improve the lives of hundreds of thousands.
A woman shooting a rapist to avoid being raped is a wonderful thing.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 15:57:37 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:105qrv5$10e05$2@dont-email.me, Scout >><me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> typed:
"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in message
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In news:XaRfQ.4$Tc12.1@fx17.iad, "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> >>>> forged:
On 7/22/2025 10:56 AM, Scout typed::
"Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> forged in message
news:0LNfQ.133786$FIUe.37894@fx35.iad...
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout typed:
""Cunt Flaps" Canoza <notgenx32@yahoo.com> forged in message
news:105m06j$2ufra$2@dont- email.me...
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of the >>>>>> unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women,
teenage boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer,
scooter, and they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
By federal law... but states define their own militias.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low standards, Cunt >>>> Flaps.
RCW 38.04.030
Composition of the militia.
The militia of the state of Washington shall consist of all able bodied >>>> citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who have >>>> declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, residing >>>> within this state, who shall be more than eighteen years of age, and shall >>>> include all persons who are members of the national guard and the state >>>> guard, and said militia shall be divided into two classes, the organized >>>> militia and the unorganized militia.
Excellent point.. lets add to it
44-1. Composition of militia.
The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able-bodied
residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States and all >>> other able-bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have declared >>> their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least 16
years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years of >>> age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National Guard, >>> which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; the
Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia.
So women count as do 16 & 17 year olds. Further any not older than 55 unless
exclusions apply.
Another inconvenient truth.
When has any militia been instrumental in defending the nation?
On 7/23/2025 6:35 PM, Governor Swill wrote:typed"):
On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried — and *failed* — to bullshit:
scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
On every date, oozing scarlet red maxipad, whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch, tried — and *failed* — to bullshit:
In news:XaRfQ.4$Tc12.1@fx17.iad, Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior to oozing scarlet red maxipad (whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch) *wrote* (not "
scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior to oozing scarlet red maxipad (whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch) *wrote* (not "typed"):
scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior to oozing scarlet red maxipad (whose mouth waters at the thought of his mommy's warm mackerel-reeking snatch) *wrote* (not "typed"):
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of the >>>>>>> unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women, teenage
boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer, scooter, and >>>>>> they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
By federal law... but states define their own militias.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low standards, Cunt
Flaps.
RCW 38.04.030
Composition of the militia.
The militia of the state of Washington shall consist of all able bodied >>>>> citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who have >>>>> declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, residing
within this state, who shall be more than eighteen years of age, and shall
include all persons who are members of the national guard and the state >>>>> guard, and said militia shall be divided into two classes, the organized >>>>> militia and the unorganized militia.
Excellent point.. lets add to it
§ 44-1. Composition of militia.
The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able-bodied
residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States and all
other able-bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have declared >>>> their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least 16
years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years of
age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National Guard, >>>> which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; the >>>> Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia.
So women count as do 16 & 17 year olds. Further any not older than 55 unless
exclusions apply.
Another inconvenient truth.
When has any militia been instrumental in defending the nation?
Civil War.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:04:08 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:8p908k59u8ulgqbj50beo6gdidrobtn0t0@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 18:13:56 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com> wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >>>>news:105ojtb$24pp$1@dont-email.me:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>"Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded."Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>> that they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as >>>>>>>>>> well.
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful >>>>>>>>>>> nation.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
That's not going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who
was driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms
against them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily described
them in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
Why bother when Rudy has shown time and time again that the facts
don't matter to him. Further I assume you are an intelligent adult
capable of research of your own. Further finding the information for >>yourself allows you to independently verify what you've been told as
well as to explore details that might not be presented in a short
Usenet post.
I will point out the Creek War and the subsequent pursuit of the
British forces. Then Hampstead Hill, along with the Defense of
Baltimore and New Orleans along with the defense of communities along
the shore of Delaware during the British Blockade.
Now, do I need to rub your nose in it and post specific proofs, or are
we intelligent adults here... with the exclusion of Rudy?
What's Rudy got to do with it? You claimed that militia beat back
British regulars during the War of 1812 on multiple occasions. I'm
asking for you to back that up with some certifiable facts.
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On 7/23/2025 4:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>> lied:
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On 7/22/2025 10:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>> and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:qggv7klgo8qanphs1ikiof7ke2ipf4dlku@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrotetroops against "armed militias" (Shay's
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power >>>>>>>>>>> who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms >>>>>>>>>>> against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
That's not "time and time again," scooter. And the militia was >>>>>>>>> *utterly* ineffective in that conflict.
Well several times they were very effective.
No, scooter.
In Citizen Soldiers in the War of 1812, Skeen investigates
militia
participation at the state level and its use to supplement
regular forces. He
also provides an overview of militia performance and concludes >>>>>>> that these
troops were ineffective for carrying out the war.
They weren't there to be "carrying out the war", they were there to >>>>>> serve as the militia,
And they were *atrocious* as a military force, scooter: untrained,
disorganized, cut-and-run, etc.
In some cases,
In *all* cases, scooter.
Ok.. Prove that
Your concession of defeat is noted, scooter.
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On 7/23/2025 8:49 AM, Scout wrote:
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On 7/23/2025 4:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and >>>>>>> lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koviatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/22/2025 10:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>> and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:97gv7khqrk95lddh2jckacifsmi8cmqtff@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wroteShow us this law.
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the >>>>>>>>>>>>> militia.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, scooter. >>>>>>>>>
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, >>>>>>>>> scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented to you >>>>>>>> before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for calling >>>>>>> out the unorganized militia have been posted, scooter.
I have repeatedly.
Not once, scooter. What you posted were statutes defining the
composition of the militia. *None* of them described or defined a
mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, scooter.
So you didn't bother to actually look at all of them.
I looked at all of them, scooter, and none specified a *mechanism* for
calling up the unorganized militia. They addressed the *authority* of
the governor to do so. That's not a mechanism, scooter.
Sure it is.
No, scooter, it doesn't exist.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:04:08 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:8p908k59u8ulgqbj50beo6gdidrobtn0t0@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 18:13:56 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in >>>>news:105ojtb$24pp$1@dont-email.me:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>"Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's >>>>>>>> not going to happen."Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrotetroops against "armed militias" (Shay's
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only that >>>>>>>>>> they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
I note it's time for a refresher.Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the
countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful >>>>>>>>>>> nation.
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was >>>>>> driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against >>>>>> them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily described them
in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
Why bother when Rudy has shown time and time again that the facts don't >>matter to him. Further I assume you are an intelligent adult capable of >>research of your own. Further finding the information for yourself allows >>you to independently verify what you've been told as well as to explore >>details that might not be presented in a short Usenet post.
I will point out the Creek War and the subsequent pursuit of the British >>forces. Then Hampstead Hill, along with the Defense of Baltimore and New >>Orleans along with the defense of communities along the shore of Delaware >>during the British Blockade.
Now, do I need to rub your nose in it and post specific proofs, or are we >>intelligent adults here... with the exclusion of Rudy?
What's Rudy got to do with it? You claimed that militia beat back
British regulars during the War of 1812 on multiple occasions. I'm
asking for you to back that up with some certifiable facts.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 15:57:37 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
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In news:XaRfQ.4$Tc12.1@fx17.iad, "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> >>>> forged:
On 7/22/2025 10:56 AM, Scout typed::
"Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> forged in message
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There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of the >>>>>> unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women,
teenage
boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer, scooter, >>>>> and
they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
By federal law... but states define their own militias.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low standards,
Cunt
Flaps.
RCW 38.04.030
Composition of the militia.
The militia of the state of Washington shall consist of all able bodied >>>> citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who
have
declared their intention to become citizens of the United States,
residing
within this state, who shall be more than eighteen years of age, and
shall
include all persons who are members of the national guard and the state >>>> guard, and said militia shall be divided into two classes, the
organized
militia and the unorganized militia.
Excellent point.. lets add to it
44-1. Composition of militia.
The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all
able-bodied
residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States and
all
other able-bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have declared >>> their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at
least 16
years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years >>> of
age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National
Guard,
which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; the
Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia.
So women count as do 16 & 17 year olds. Further any not older than 55
unless
exclusions apply.
Another inconvenient truth.
When has any militia been instrumental in defending the nation?
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:09:29 -0400, Scout wrote:
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message
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Whereas all a gun can do is blow holes in things.
Which depending on what, when and why such holes are being made can be a
WONDERFUL thing.
A head shot to a terrorist about to detonate a bomb that will kill
hundreds, thousands or even millions can be a very good thing.
Assuming they haven’t already pulled the pin, and all you’re doing is releasing their pressure on the trigger ...
A shot to get meat to feed a starving family can be a very useful thing.
Freeing a country by shooting an oppressive despot can save thousands of
lives and improve the lives of hundreds of thousands.
A woman shooting a rapist to avoid being raped is a wonderful thing.
You seem to think a lot of problems can be solved just by killing
somebody. Forgetting that the person you're thinking of killing is likely
to be armed themselves -- indeed, likely to outgun you.
What’re you going to do then?
On 7/24/2025 5:32 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 15:57:37 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:105qrv5$10e05$2@dont-email.me, Scout
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> typed:
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In news:XaRfQ.4$Tc12.1@fx17.iad, "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
<kvyatt@gmail.com>
forged:
On 7/22/2025 10:56 AM, Scout typed::
"Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> forged in message
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On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout typed:
""Cunt Flaps" Canoza <notgenx32@yahoo.com> forged in message >>>>>>>>>> news:105m06j$2ufra$2@dont- email.me...
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of the >>>>>>>> unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. Women, >>>>>>> teenage
boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer, scooter, >>>>>>> and
they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
By federal law... but states define their own militias.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low standards, >>>>>> Cunt
Flaps.
RCW 38.04.030
Composition of the militia.
The militia of the state of Washington shall consist of all able
bodied
citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who >>>>>> have
declared their intention to become citizens of the United States,
residing
within this state, who shall be more than eighteen years of age, and >>>>>> shall
include all persons who are members of the national guard and the
state
guard, and said militia shall be divided into two classes, the
organized
militia and the unorganized militia.
Excellent point.. lets add to it
§ 44-1. Composition of militia.
The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all
able-bodied
residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States
and all
other able-bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have
declared
their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at
least 16
years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55
years of
age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National
Guard,
which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; the >>>>> Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia.
So women count as do 16 & 17 year olds. Further any not older than 55 >>>>> unless
exclusions apply.
Another inconvenient truth.
When has any militia been instrumental in defending the nation?
Define "instrumental" the militia's involvement has occurred in pretty
much
That's a Category 2 scooterism: weasel words to try to create wiggle room. scooter means "every," without exception.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 19:53:47 -0700, "max headroom" wrote:
Governor Swill typed:<snip>
When has any militia been instrumental in defending the nation?
Civil War.
Hm . . . 170 years ago . . .
Be more specific, please, because as a Civil War buff, iirc the
various southern states called up their militias to ATTACK the Union,
not to defend it.
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On 7/23/2025 9:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless >>>>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On 7/23/2025 8:49 AM, Scout wrote:
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On 7/23/2025 4:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>> and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koviatt@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:8cRfQ.5$Tc12.2@fx17.iad...
On 7/22/2025 10:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>>>> and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:97gv7khqrk95lddh2jckacifsmi8cmqtff@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wroteShow us this law.
On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> militia.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, >>>>>>>>>>> scooter.
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, >>>>>>>>>>> scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented to you >>>>>>>>>> before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for calling >>>>>>>>> out the unorganized militia have been posted, scooter.
I have repeatedly.
Not once, scooter. What you posted were statutes defining the
composition of the militia. *None* of them described or defined a >>>>>>> mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, scooter.
So you didn't bother to actually look at all of them.
I looked at all of them, scooter, and none specified a *mechanism* for >>>>> calling up the unorganized militia. They addressed the *authority* of >>>>> the governor to do so. That's not a mechanism, scooter.
Sure it is.
No, scooter, it doesn't exist.
And yet it does.
No, scooter. No mechanism for calling out the all-but-fictional
unorganized militia exists.
This is settled, scooter.
Authority to call it out is not a mechanism for calling it out, scooter.
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On 7/23/2025 8:52 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
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On 7/23/2025 4:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>> and lied:
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On 7/22/2025 10:54 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>>>>> and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:qggv7klgo8qanphs1ikiof7ke2ipf4dlku@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside arehave civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only that they
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
going to happen.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power >>>>>>>>>>>>> who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms >>>>>>>>>>>>> against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
That's not "time and time again," scooter. And the militia was >>>>>>>>>>> *utterly* ineffective in that conflict.
Well several times they were very effective.
No, scooter.
In Citizen Soldiers in the War of 1812, Skeen investigates >>>>>>>>> militia
participation at the state level and its use to supplement >>>>>>>>> regular forces. He
also provides an overview of militia performance and concludes >>>>>>>>> that these
troops were ineffective for carrying out the war.
They weren't there to be "carrying out the war", they were there to >>>>>>>> serve as the militia,
And they were *atrocious* as a military force, scooter: untrained, >>>>>>> disorganized, cut-and-run, etc.
In some cases,
In *all* cases, scooter.
Ok.. Prove that
Your concession of defeat is noted, scooter.
You certainly
kicked my fat flabby doughy ass. Yes, scooter did.
On 7/24/2025 5:37 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:04:08 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 18:13:56 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> >>>>> wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. That's >>>>>>>>>> not going to happen."Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrotetroops against "armed militias" (Shay's
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not only >>>>>>>>>>>> that
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the >>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful >>>>>>>>>>>>> nation.
they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free one as well. >>>>>>>>>>> George Washington himself had lead
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who >>>>>>>> was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms
against
them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily described them >>>>> in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
Why bother when Rudy has shown time and time again that the facts don't >>>> matter to him. Further I assume you are an intelligent adult capable of >>>> research of your own. Further finding the information for yourself
allows
you to independently verify what you've been told as well as to explore >>>> details that might not be presented in a short Usenet post.
I will point out the Creek War and the subsequent pursuit of the
British
forces. Then Hampstead Hill, along with the Defense of Baltimore and
New
Orleans along with the defense of communities along the shore of
Delaware
during the British Blockade.
Now, do I need to rub your nose in it and post specific proofs, or are >>>> we
intelligent adults here... with the exclusion of Rudy?
What's Rudy got to do with it? You claimed that militia beat back
British regulars during the War of 1812 on multiple occasions. I'm
asking for you to back that up with some certifiable facts.
Sorry, but I said no such thing.
Yes, scooter, you did. You were asked,
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power who was
driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private arms against
them.
And your moronic reply was,
War of 1812 in several incidents.
And now you're whiffing off, as usual, from identifying any of those incidents. Why are you whiffing off? Because you're full of shit, of
course.
On 7/24/2025 5:39 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:09:29 -0400, Scout wrote:
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message
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Whereas all a gun can do is blow holes in things.
Which depending on what, when and why such holes are being made can be >>>> a
WONDERFUL thing.
A head shot to a terrorist about to detonate a bomb that will kill
hundreds, thousands or even millions can be a very good thing.
Assuming they haven’t already pulled the pin, and all you’re doing is >>> releasing their pressure on the trigger ...
A shot to get meat to feed a starving family can be a very useful
thing.
Freeing a country by shooting an oppressive despot can save thousands
of
lives and improve the lives of hundreds of thousands.
A woman shooting a rapist to avoid being raped is a wonderful thing.
You seem to think a lot of problems can be solved just by killing
somebody. Forgetting that the person you're thinking of killing is
likely
to be armed themselves -- indeed, likely to outgun you.
What’re you going to do then?
Head shot..
You've never made a "head shot" <chortle> on a human being in your fucking degraded squalid life, scooter.
A shot to get meat to feed a starving family can be a very useful thing.
Freeing a country by shooting an oppressive despot can save thousands of >> >>>lives and improve the lives of hundreds of thousands.
On 7/24/2025 8:20 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 15:57:37 -0700, "max headroom"
<maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote:
In news:105qrv5$10e05$2@dont-email.me, Scout
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In news:XaRfQ.4$Tc12.1@fx17.iad, "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
<kvyatt@gmail.com>
forged:
On 7/22/2025 10:56 AM, Scout typed::
"Cunt Flaps" Canoza <kvyatt@gmail.com> forged in message
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On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout typed:
""Cunt Flaps" Canoza <notgenx32@yahoo.com> forged in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:105m06j$2ufra$2@dont- email.me...
There isn't any "militia" as the founders envisioned it.
Sure there is.. just catch the start of every deer season.
Nothing to do with any militia, scooter.
Sure it does.. look at the legal requirements to be a member of >>>>>>>>>> the
unorganized militia. The overwhelming bulk of them qualify.
No, scooter. It has nothing to do with the militia, scooter. >>>>>>>>> Women, teenage
boys under age 18 and adult men above age 45 all hunt deer,
scooter, and
they are excluded by law from the unorganized militia.
By federal law... but states define their own militias.
That was exceptionally stupid even by your appallingly low
standards, Cunt
Flaps.
RCW 38.04.030
Composition of the militia.
The militia of the state of Washington shall consist of all able >>>>>>>> bodied
citizens of the United States and all other able bodied persons who >>>>>>>> have
declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, >>>>>>>> residing
within this state, who shall be more than eighteen years of age, >>>>>>>> and shall
include all persons who are members of the national guard and the >>>>>>>> state
guard, and said militia shall be divided into two classes, the >>>>>>>> organized
militia and the unorganized militia.
Excellent point.. lets add to it
§ 44-1. Composition of militia.
The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all >>>>>>> able-bodied
residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States >>>>>>> and all
other able-bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have
declared
their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at >>>>>>> least 16
years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 >>>>>>> years of
age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National >>>>>>> Guard,
which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; >>>>>>> the
Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia.
So women count as do 16 & 17 year olds. Further any not older than >>>>>>> 55 unless
exclusions apply.
Another inconvenient truth.
When has any militia been instrumental in defending the nation?
Define "instrumental" the militia's involvement has occurred in pretty >>>> much
That's a Category 2 scooterism: weasel words to try to create wiggle
room. scooter means "every," without exception.
What I say means exactly what I said.
No, scooter. This is a well-known category of scooterism:
"The second amendment to the constitution of the United States of
America
would pretty much render any gun control law you want to be null and void."
scooter, lying on 04/26/2023 at 12:45pm ET
A shot to get meat to feed a starving family can be a very useful
thing.
North America can only feed a few million by hunting and gatherring.
To keep hundred million alive, you farming of domesticated plants and animals.
Freeing a country by shooting an oppressive despot can save
thousands of lives and improve the lives of hundreds of
thousands.
Nobody is standing up to TACO except Colbert, Stewart, Ro Khanna,
Jasmine Crockett, ...
Without guns.
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On 7/23/2025 9:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
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and lied:
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On 7/23/2025 8:49 AM, Scout wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/23/2025 4:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>>> and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, >>>>>>>>>>> trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koviatt@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:8cRfQ.5$Tc12.2@fx17.iad...
On 7/22/2025 10:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia >>>>>>>>>>>>> camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death >>>>>>>>>>>>> of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
news:97gv7khqrk95lddh2jckacifsmi8cmqtff@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Show us this law.
Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> militia.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, >>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter.
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized >>>>>>>>>>>>> militia, scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented >>>>>>>>>>>> to you before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for >>>>>>>>>>> calling out the unorganized militia have been posted,
scooter.
I have repeatedly.
Not once, scooter. What you posted were statutes defining the >>>>>>>>> composition of the militia. *None* of them described or
defined a mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, >>>>>>>>> scooter.
So you didn't bother to actually look at all of them.
I looked at all of them, scooter, and none specified a
*mechanism* for calling up the unorganized militia. They
addressed the *authority* of the governor to do so. That's not a >>>>>>> mechanism, scooter.
Sure it is.
No, scooter, it doesn't exist.
And yet it does.
No, scooter. No mechanism for calling out the all-but-fictional
unorganized militia exists.
Having already cited the law that provides this mechanism,
No, scooter, you didn't. I read the the text for that law, scooter,
and it did not in any way identify any mechanism. All it did was
provide the authority for the governor to summon the unorganized
militia, scooter, but no mechanism was identified. You lied, scooter.
This is settled, scooter.
A Rudyism
That is *always* a bullshit statement, scooter.
On 7/24/2025 8:36 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On 7/24/2025 5:37 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
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lied:
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:04:08 -0400, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 18:13:56 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noemail@aol.com> wrote:
"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:105ojtb$24pp$1@dont-email.me:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:qggv7klgo8qanphs1ikiof7ke2ipf4dlku@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 08:17:22 -0400, "Scout"wrote:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote
On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 18:12:30 +0000, Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Scout" wrote
Agreed. They're only useful if the homeland is invaded. >>>>>>>>>>>> That's not going to happen."Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wroteGeorge Washington himself had lead
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I note it's time for a refresher.Agreed.. but their ability to do so is what assures not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> only that they have civilized, peaceful nation but a free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one as well.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countryside are not the hallmark of a civilized, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peaceful nation.
troops against "armed militias" (Shay's
rebellion, Whisky rebellion).
"Arned militias" have no respect for
democracy, much less the rule of law.
And yet it has happened. Time and time again.
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power >>>>>>>>>> who was driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their
private arms against them.
War of 1812 in several incidents.
What incidents?
None. Had there actually been any, he'd have haughtily
described them in detail if only to rub our noses in it.
Why bother when Rudy has shown time and time again that the facts
don't matter to him. Further I assume you are an intelligent
adult capable of research of your own. Further finding the
information for yourself allows you to independently verify what
you've been told as well as to explore details that might not be
presented in a short Usenet post.
I will point out the Creek War and the subsequent pursuit of the
British forces. Then Hampstead Hill, along with the Defense of
Baltimore and New Orleans along with the defense of communities
along the shore of Delaware during the British Blockade.
Now, do I need to rub your nose in it and post specific proofs,
or are we intelligent adults here... with the exclusion of Rudy?
What's Rudy got to do with it? You claimed that militia beat
back British regulars during the War of 1812 on multiple
occasions. I'm asking for you to back that up with some
certifiable facts.
Sorry, but I said no such thing.
Yes, scooter, you did. You were asked,
Tell us when the United States was invaded by a foreign power
who was driven off by ordinary citizens taking up their private
arms against them.
And your moronic reply was,
War of 1812 in several incidents.
And now you're whiffing off, as usual, from identifying any of those
incidents. Why are you whiffing off? Because you're full of shit, of
course.
Rudy, you seem to feel I have an obligation to waste my time
providing cites which we all know you will ignore.
I don't ignore them,
On 7/24/2025 8:40 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
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On 7/24/2025 5:39 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 08:09:29 -0400, Scout wrote:
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message
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Whereas all a gun can do is blow holes in things.
Which depending on what, when and why such holes are being made
can be a WONDERFUL thing.
A head shot to a terrorist about to detonate a bomb that will
kill hundreds, thousands or even millions can be a very good
thing.
Assuming they haven’t already pulled the pin, and all you’re
doing is releasing their pressure on the trigger ...
A shot to get meat to feed a starving family can be a very useful
thing. Freeing a country by shooting an oppressive despot can
save thousands of lives and improve the lives of hundreds of
thousands. A woman shooting a rapist to avoid being raped is a
wonderful thing.
You seem to think a lot of problems can be solved just by killing
somebody. Forgetting that the person you're thinking of killing is
likely to be armed themselves -- indeed, likely to outgun you.
What’re you going to do then?
Head shot..
You've never made a "head shot" <chortle> on a human being in your
fucking degraded squalid life, scooter.
Luckily I have never needed to. which doesn't mean I'm unable to do
so.
I'm unable to do it, scooter.
On 24 Jul 2025, Klaus Schadenfreude <karvatt@gmail.com>
posted some news:GTtgQ.138413$Tc12.82582@fx17.iad:
On 7/24/2025 8:30 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <karvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/24/2025 5:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/23/2025 11:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/23/2025 9:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>> and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6l8gQ.765$H1Q.599@fx44.iad...
On 7/23/2025 8:49 AM, Scout wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:kJ6gQ.5538$RDB4.3060@fx09.iad...
On 7/23/2025 4:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>>>> and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, >>>>>>>>>>>> trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koviatt@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8cRfQ.5$Tc12.2@fx17.iad...
On 7/22/2025 10:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
news:97gv7khqrk95lddh2jckacifsmi8cmqtff@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Show us this law.
Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> militia.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter.
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized >>>>>>>>>>>>>> militia, scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented >>>>>>>>>>>>> to you before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for >>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the unorganized militia have been posted,
scooter.
I have repeatedly.
Not once, scooter. What you posted were statutes defining the >>>>>>>>>> composition of the militia. *None* of them described or
defined a mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, >>>>>>>>>> scooter.
So you didn't bother to actually look at all of them.
I looked at all of them, scooter, and none specified a
*mechanism* for calling up the unorganized militia. They
addressed the *authority* of the governor to do so. That's not a >>>>>>>> mechanism, scooter.
Sure it is.
No, scooter, it doesn't exist.
And yet it does.
No, scooter. No mechanism for calling out the all-but-fictional
unorganized militia exists.
Having already cited the law that provides this mechanism,
No, scooter, you didn't. I read the the text for that law, scooter,
and it did not in any way identify any mechanism. All it did was
provide the authority for the governor to summon the unorganized
militia, scooter, but no mechanism was identified. You lied, scooter.
The fact that the unorganized militia exists
and can be summoned
This is settled, scooter.
A Rudyism
That is *always* a true statement, scooter.
So tell us something new.
Nobody is standing up to TACO except Colbert, Stewart, Ro Khanna,
Jasmine Crockett, ...
Without guns.
On 24 Jul 2025, rudy forging Klaus Schadenfreude <karvatt@gmail.com>
posted some news:GTtgQ.138413$Tc12.82582@fx17.iad:
On 7/24/2025 8:30 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <karvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/24/2025 5:35 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/23/2025 11:01 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and
gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled
and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/23/2025 9:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and >>>>>>>> gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled >>>>>>>> and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/23/2025 8:49 AM, Scout wrote:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koratt@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:kJ6gQ.5538$RDB4.3060@fx09.iad...
On 7/23/2025 4:53 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper >>>>>>>>>>>> and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, >>>>>>>>>>>> trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <koviatt@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8cRfQ.5$Tc12.2@fx17.iad...
On 7/22/2025 10:57 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message
news:97gv7khqrk95lddh2jckacifsmi8cmqtff@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2025 13:31:39 +0000, Mitchell Holman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
"Scout" < wrote
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <kovatt@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/21/2025 11:54 AM, Scout wrote:Show us this law.
Actually, the law provides a mechanism to call out the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> militia.
He can't and he won't.
I can and I've done so.
You can't and you haven't and you won't even attempt it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scooter.
There is no mechanism for calling out the unorganized >>>>>>>>>>>>>> militia, scooter.
Cites [sic] posted to doing so have already been presented >>>>>>>>>>>>> to you before.
No, scooter. No "cites" [sic] describing the mechanism for >>>>>>>>>>>> calling out the unorganized militia have been posted,
scooter.
I have repeatedly.
Not once, scooter. What you posted were statutes defining the >>>>>>>>>> composition of the militia. *None* of them described or
defined a mechanism for calling out the unorganized militia, >>>>>>>>>> scooter.
So you didn't bother to actually look at all of them.
I looked at all of them, scooter, and none specified a
*mechanism* for calling up the unorganized militia. They
addressed the *authority* of the governor to do so. That's not a >>>>>>>> mechanism, scooter.
Sure it is.
No, scooter, it doesn't exist.
And yet it does.
No, scooter. No mechanism for calling out the all-but-fictional
unorganized militia exists.
Having already cited the law that provides this mechanism,
No, scooter, you didn't. I read the the text for that law, scooter,
and it did not in any way identify any mechanism.
All it did was
provide the authority for the governor to summon the unorganized
militia, scooter, but no mechanism was identified. You lied, scooter.
The fact that the unorganized militia exists and can be summoned pretty
much nukes your silly argument.
This is settled, scooter.
A Rudyism
That is *always* a bullshit statement, scooter.
So tell us something new.
Head shot.. then it doesn't matter how much they "outgun" me.
I have however head shot wolves, dogs and even the occasional skunk.
Mouths aren't very effective against bullets and pink slips.
If the bad guy gets the drop on some self-styled "good guy with a gun,"
the bad guy is going to prevail more often than not.
Nobody is standing up to TACO except Colbert, Stewart, Ro Khanna,
Jasmine Crockett, ...
Without guns.
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 11:40:24 -0400, Scout wrote:
I have however head shot wolves, dogs and even the occasional skunk.
In other words, only creatures that were at a severe disadvantage with respect to you.
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 08:39:45 -0400, Scout wrote:
Head shot.. then it doesn't matter how much they "outgun" me.
Did you know cops are trained to do body shots, not head shots? Ever
wonder why?
On 7/25/2025 7:31 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 08:39:45 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper
and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and
lied:
Head shot.. then it doesn't matter how much they "outgun" me.
Did you know cops are trained to do body shots, not head shots? Ever
wonder why?
scooter has never done a "head shot" in his life — not of a human and not of any non-human animal. scooter is blowing smoke out his gaping
HIV-oozing asshole.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 20:10:49 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
If the bad guy gets the drop on some self-styled "good guy with a gun,"
the bad guy is going to prevail more often than not.
Remember the Las Vegas shooter? Up on the 32nd floor of that hotel? There were people down in the street with guns, but not a single one of them
tried to return fire. Instead, they all turned and ran.
Wonder why?
On 7/25/2025 7:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 20:10:49 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
If the bad guy gets the drop on some self-styled "good guy with a gun,"
the bad guy is going to prevail more often than not.
Remember the Las Vegas shooter? Up on the 32nd floor of that hotel? There
were people down in the street with guns, but not a single one of them
tried to return fire. Instead, they all turned and ran.
Wonder why?
And some years earlier, there was the Aurora shooter. Or one of them. He
was in body armour. Anybody who tried to stop running and return fire
would have been dead meat.
Yep. These gun fondlers like scooter imagine themselves to be "masters of
the universe," always able to outthink and and outrun and outgun their nemeses,
but they have *never* been put to the test.
They're living fantasy conflicts in their diseased minds
and they just have *no* idea how an actual conflict is going to unfold.
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 09:52:55 -0700, chine.bleu wrote:
Nobody is standing up to TACO except Colbert, Stewart, Ro Khanna,
Jasmine Crockett, ...
Without guns.
The thing with a crowd of peaceful, unarmed demonstrators is, if the Government shoots at them, it immediately gives them the moral high
ground. That kind of thing tends to sway public opinion in favour of the underdog.
On 7/28/2025 6:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <karvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 7/25/2025 7:31 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 08:39:45 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia
camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy,
trolled and lied:
Head shot.. then it doesn't matter how much they "outgun" me.
Did you know cops are trained to do body shots, not head shots? Ever
wonder why?
scooter has never done a "head shot" in his life — not of a human and
not of any non-human animal. scooter is blowing smoke out his gaping
HIV-oozing asshole.
Rudy chimes in with
facts.
Yes, scooter, facts. You have never done any sort of "head shot."
On 7/28/2025 6:09 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <karvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pxZgQ.13697$Mu%e.2049@fx34.iad...
On 7/25/2025 7:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 20:10:49 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
If the bad guy gets the drop on some self-styled "good guy with a
gun,"
the bad guy is going to prevail more often than not.
Remember the Las Vegas shooter? Up on the 32nd floor of that hotel?
There
were people down in the street with guns, but not a single one of them >>>> tried to return fire. Instead, they all turned and ran.
Wonder why?
And some years earlier, there was the Aurora shooter. Or one of them.
He
was in body armour. Anybody who tried to stop running and return fire
would have been dead meat.
Yep. These gun fondlers like scooter imagine themselves to be "masters
of the universe," always able to outthink and and outrun and outgun
their nemeses,
Hardly, but
Yes, you do, scooter. It's exactly like the way you imagine yourself to be some kind of Usenet ninja, when nothing could be further from the truth.
but they have *never* been put to the test.
How would you know?
It doesn't matter "how" I know, scooter. I just know.
They're living fantasy conflicts in their diseased minds
Says the person regularly
kicking the asses of right-wingnuts. Yes, scooter.
and they just have *no* idea how an actual conflict is going to unfold.
No one does.
You pretend you do, scooter.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message news:1061eml$18ohf$3@dont-email.me...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 08:39:45 -0400, Scout wrote:
Head shot.. then it doesn't matter how much they "outgun" me.
Did you know cops are trained to do body shots, not head shots? Ever
wonder why?
Because they are attempting to take the perp alive, and are attempting
to incapacitate.
I would be fighting for survival that's a totally different type of
combat with very different rules.
On 7/28/2025 6:03 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <karvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:X8XgQ.174068$hR%a.105876@fx14.iad...
On 7/25/2025 7:31 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 08:39:45 -0400, scooter, the drunken Virginia
camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy,
trolled and lied:
Head shot.. then it doesn't matter how much they "outgun" me.
Did you know cops are trained to do body shots, not head shots?
Ever wonder why?
scooter has never done a "head shot" in his life — not of a human >>> and not of any non-human animal. scooter is blowing smoke out his
gaping HIV-oozing asshole.
Rudy chimes in with
facts.
Yes, scooter, facts. You have never done any sort of "head shot."
On 7/28/2025 6:09 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, trolled and lied:
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <karvatt@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pxZgQ.13697$Mu%e.2049@fx34.iad...
On 7/25/2025 7:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 20:10:49 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
If the bad guy gets the drop on some self-styled "good guy with a
gun," the bad guy is going to prevail more often than not.
Remember the Las Vegas shooter? Up on the 32nd floor of that hotel?
There were people down in the street with guns, but not a single
one of them tried to return fire. Instead, they all turned and ran.
Wonder why?
And some years earlier, there was the Aurora shooter. Or one of
them. He was in body armour. Anybody who tried to stop running and
return fire would have been dead meat.
Yep. These gun fondlers like scooter imagine themselves to be
"masters of the universe," always able to outthink and and outrun
and outgun their nemeses,
Hardly, but
Yes, you do, scooter. It's exactly like the way you imagine yourself
to be some kind of Usenet ninja, when nothing could be further from
the truth.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message news:1061eml$18ohf$3@dont-email.me...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 08:39:45 -0400, Scout wrote:
Head shot.. then it doesn't matter how much they "outgun" me.
Did you know cops are trained to do body shots, not head shots? Ever
wonder why?
Because they are attempting to take the perp alive, and are attempting
to incapacitate.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 18:20:38 -0700, Rudy Canoza wrote:
I note it's time for a refresher.
Get rid of the damn thing. Armed militias roaming the countryside are
not the hallmark of a civilized, peaceful nation.
There are no armed militias roaming the countryside in the United
States. Anyone who tried to organize even in the slightest fashion, a
small group of peaceable men either got infiltrated by the Feds,
Waco'ed, or both.
"Lawrence D'Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in message news:1061f26$18ohf$6@dont-email.me...
The thing with a crowd of peaceful, unarmed demonstrators is, if the
Government shoots at them, it immediately gives them the moral high
ground. That kind of thing tends to sway public opinion in favour of
the underdog.
Sort of depends on the demonstrators doesn't it?
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