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    From islandteak@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Harri Hannula on Sun Feb 19 17:45:39 2017
    On Saturday, March 25, 2000 at 1:00:00 AM UTC-7, Harri Hannula wrote:
    I think that I have to practise Jigmeism, and ask you all about
    this issue...
    ___________

    Why cannot a male, adult, accident victim (amputee) become
    accepted as a monk. Especially if the individual was born in
    good health with all appendages attached. I am sure that
    the Buddha did not specify no admittance to accident victims
    and this policy just results from 'un enlightened' thinking by the
    'clergy'. Any explanations ?

    Regards.....Ken

    I am pleased that my question stirred some thought. I am left with the understanding that those 'men' who may have been in charge of the 'system' were required to maintain a status that insured the adherents continue to offer gifts of food, selfless, or
    in quest of merit. Regardless, without the offerings the pre existing system would have been severely challenged if beggars were allowed to infiltrate the system. The irony is, that in today's world, we generally choose to give selflessly to the
    handicapped, without need of merit making. Just to help; just to personally be of value.

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  • From islandteak@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Harri Hannula on Sun Feb 19 17:47:07 2017
    On Saturday, March 25, 2000 at 1:00:00 AM UTC-7, Harri Hannula wrote:
    I think that I have to practise Jigmeism, and ask you all about
    this issue...
    ___________

    Why cannot a male, adult, accident victim (amputee) become
    accepted as a monk. Especially if the individual was born in
    good health with all appendages attached. I am sure that
    the Buddha did not specify no admittance to accident victims
    and this policy just results from 'un enlightened' thinking by the
    'clergy'. Any explanations ?

    Regards.....Ken

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  • From David Raleigh Arnold@21:1/5 to islandteak@gmail.com on Sun Mar 19 20:53:30 2017
    On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:45:39 -0800 (PST)
    islandteak@gmail.com wrote:

    On Saturday, March 25, 2000 at 1:00:00 AM UTC-7,
    Harri Hannula wrote:
    I think that I have to practise Jigmeism, and ask
    you all about this issue...
    ___________

    Why cannot a male, adult, accident victim (amputee)
    become accepted as a monk.

    Because he can't walk for hours, bowl in hand. Lord
    Buddha expected effort, lots of it, from the
    order.

    I have never heard of a rule that a monk who became
    incapacitated must be booted out, however.
    Metta, Rale

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  • From David Raleigh Arnold@21:1/5 to islandteak@gmail.com on Tue Mar 21 21:13:33 2017
    On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 17:45:39 -0800 (PST)
    islandteak@gmail.com wrote:

    On Saturday, March 25, 2000 at 1:00:00 AM UTC-7,
    Harri Hannula wrote:
    I think that I have to practise Jigmeism, and ask
    you all about this issue...
    ___________

    Why cannot a male, adult, accident victim (amputee)
    become accepted as a monk.

    Originally, Lord Buddha didn't want women in orders
    either. He relented, but some of his original reasons
    may clarify this other issue.

    1. Security. How is a community of women to defend
    against violent outrages?

    2. Need. Isn't her own home a better place to
    practice than out in the middle of nowhere?

    Metta, Rale

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