https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/14eqa3r/the_babs_3rd_commandment_drink_his_special_white/

To u/taeinthewind's apt response:

taeinthewind

"The list of seven laws is from the Bab’s Khasa’il sab’a. The second text with the recipe is from the Sahifa bayn al-haramayn. Both are early and were written before either Bayan."

IRI hack u/SuccessfulCorner2512 aka u/Investigator919 retorts in embarrassment (while making a series of faux pas' revealing more of their ignorance in the process) as follows:

SuccessfulCorner2512:

"Yes, and both sources are from 1845, after his proclamation. Are you saying the Bayan abrogated his own earlier teachings? He sounds rather fickle.

Commandments reference: The Bab, al-Khasa’il al-saba (The Seven Qualifications), a.k.a. al-Shaa’ir al-sab****a (The Seven Religious Practices), composed in Bushihr at the end of the Bab’s pilgrimage in the summer of 1845 (see Lambden). The Bab
instructed Quddus to go to Shiraz and deliver it to his uncle, SayyidAli, to whom it was addressed, with the instructions that all of the Bab’s followers were to follow these laws when the time was right (Mazandarani, Zuhur, 2:71; Afnan, `Ahd, 83).
Quddus also delivered a copy to Mulla Sadiq, who was brutally punished for following the fourth law (Shuhada-yi amr, 1:63; Nabil, Dawnbreakers, 144)"

Now let's pick this apart:

First, why instructions and a recommendation for the preparation of a special kind of tea would be deemed controversial at all is anyone's guess. What is the big deal here? If it is controversial, does that mean that these IRI hacks also have a problem
with Japanese tea ceremonies and find those scandalous as well? Or how about the genre within Islamic literature generally? Off the top of my head, Ibn Arabi (d. 1240) recommends the consumption and avoidance of certain foods in his Futuhat al-Makkiyah,
giving graphic details about his own eating habits as well as his digestion while stopping short of actually talking about his bowel movements. Certain fiqhi/jurisprudential texts among Sunni and Shi'i alike go into detailed and explicit instructions on
the preparation of certain foods. Occult texts such as the shams al-ma'arif go into vast and elaborate detail on the use of herbs, incenses, spices, etc. Why is this remotely something to nitpick? Unless, that is, it is merely an excuse and a malicious
exercise simply to ridicule the Bab for its own sake, which has been a trademark of the mullahs and their allies since the 1840s, not to mention revealing the core pettiness and disingenuous duplicity of this IR hack.

Then the IRI hack opines:

"Are you saying the Bayan abrogated his own earlier teachings? He sounds rather fickle."

This particular item is not an ordinance or law to be abrogated. If this ignorant hack had the ability to actually read the sahifa bayna'l-haramayn (The Epistle between the Two Shrines [of Mecca and Medina]) in the original they would know this. Second,
the Qur'an revealed and abrogated laws and ordinances within the span of 23 years, which is why there are copious verses throughout the Qur'an deemed to be abrogated verses and non-binding. Is this IR hack going to tell us now that Muhammad (ص) was
fickle too? Please do, if you dare, but say it lest you be accused of hypocrisy and double-standards as I am accusing you of here.

Finally, the fact that this hack did not correct a very basic but blatant mistake in the very work they claim to be criticizing shows this individual to be an amateur only wheeled out for disinformation and smearing purposes:

Finally, the fact that this hack did not correct a very basic but blatant mistake in the very work they claim to be criticizing shows this individual to be an amateur only wheeled out for disinformation and smearing purposes:

"al-Shaa’ir al-sab****a"

It is khasa'il (خصائل), genius, not Shaa’ir !

I rest my case. These are the type of people that Haifan Baha'is like u/Bahai-2023 as well as these virtual Unitarian Baha'is hereabouts hide behind, give pedestals to, and protect online in their mutual interest to smear the Primal Point and the Babis:
ignorant and malicious LIARS and HACKS in the employ of state actors who are mass murderers and professional propaganda fantasists!

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https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeSpeechBahai/comments/14gukwo/responding_to/

MirzaJan mentally defecates:

Rest for one hour on your couch, for this is an established right for everyone.

-The Primal Point
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First explain, MirzaIRI_Jaan, why this is even controversial or something to nitpick? Should he have instead said something along the lines of what certain suluki or fiqhi texts are known for saying, stand upright without moving for as long as possible
even if your back hurts? Would that better appease your sense of rijaali pettiness?

Majlisi and Khomeini are on record for giving graphic instructions on the length it is permissible to which you can penetrate your penis into a camel's asshole. Khomeini as well as Majlisi give detailed instructions on which foot to enter a toilet with
and how many takbirs to recite as you do, not to mention the entire genre of the shakkiyaat (doubts) in fiqh/Islamic jurisprudence whose entire subject matter revolves farts and farting! What kind of religion is yours where your worship is invalidated by
inadvertently passing wind because God doesn't listen to you if you accidentally fart? And you want to ridicule the Bab here, for what exactly?

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones, MaaderChodJaan!

https://www.ipolitics.ca/news/the-top-ten-bizarre-sex-fatwas

The top ten bizarre sex fatwas

As Karim Sadjadpour recounts in his new article for Foreign Policy, an obscure cleric known as Ayatollah Gilani had a popular television show in the early days of the Iranian revolution during which he would opine upon the halal or haram status of
various outlandish scenarios. His best-remembered went like this:

Imagine you are a young man sleeping in your bedroom. In the bedroom directly below, your aunt lies asleep. Now imagine that an earthquake happens that collapses your floor, causing you to fall directly on top of her. For the sake of argument, let’s
assume that you’re both nude, and you’re erect, and you land with such perfect precision on top of her that you unintentionally achieve intercourse. Is the child of such an encounter halalzadeh (legitimate) or haramzadeh (a bastard)?

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