• HP Microserver N54L Boot Manager key?

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 13 14:46:37 2024
    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which key will bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?

    I keep ending up at a grub prompt :-(

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Aug 13 17:10:25 2024
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which key will bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?

    I usually mash F2, F10, F12 and Delete randomly. Couldn't tell you which
    one is detected by any particular machine :-)

    Theo

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  • From Daniel James@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Aug 13 19:01:12 2024
    On 13/08/2024 15:46, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which
    key will bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?
    F10 according to the helpful manual I downloaded ages ago.

    It's definitely worth downloading these manuals and squirrelling them
    away before they become unavailable ... or you, er, forget where to
    download them!

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Aug 14 10:09:40 2024
    On 13/08/2024 15:46, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which key
    will bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?

    I keep ending up at a grub prompt :-(


    IIRC you hit Esc like a demented woodpecker.


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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Gaines on Wed Aug 14 16:17:11 2024
    On 13/08/2024 in message <xn0opitaqivlkr500p@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:


    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which key will >bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?

    I keep ending up at a grub prompt :-(

    I have succeeded in getting into the BIOS by hitting F10 "like a demented woodpecker"!

    No sign of a boot menu from Escape, F2 or F12. Perhaps I need to work my
    way through the keyboard...

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    This mess is what happens when you elect a Labour government, in the end
    they will always run out of other people's money to spend.
    (Margaret Thatcher on her election in 1979)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Aug 14 17:47:31 2024
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    No sign of a boot menu

    Proliants often use F8, but the same key will do different thinkd
    depending on what the most recent prompt was, so don't rush

    I think it's Dells with ctrl-S

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 14 18:11:34 2024
    On 14/08/2024 in message <li45d2Fep2nU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
    wrote:

    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    No sign of a boot menu

    Proliants often use F8, but the same key will do different thinkd
    depending on what the most recent prompt was, so don't rush

    I think it's Dells with ctrl-S

    I will work my way round the keyboard :-)

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  • From Sump@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Wed Aug 14 19:40:47 2024
    On 13 Aug 2024 14:46:37 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:


    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which key will >bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?

    I keep ending up at a grub prompt :-(

    https://www.hpe.com/psnow/doc/c02473845

    Looks like F10
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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Gaines on Sat Aug 17 14:59:28 2024
    On 13/08/2024 in message <xn0opitaqivlkr500p@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:


    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which key will >bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?

    I keep ending up at a grub prompt :-(

    Just to wrap this up there are questions about this all over the Internet
    but very few answers - and those there are don't work :-(

    I sat at the machine for over half an hour and tried Escape, Delete, F2,
    F9, F11. F10 does bring up the BIOS setup screen but no boot manager.

    The only saving grace is if you plug a bootable DVD or Thumbdrive into the
    top of the front USB ports you do get a prompt asking if you want to boot
    from it.

    If I get stuck at that Grub prompt (it may be a shell prompt with user
    Grub) is there anything I can usefully do?

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sat Aug 17 20:07:41 2024
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 13/08/2024 in message <xn0opitaqivlkr500p@news.individual.net> Jeff
    Gaines wrote:


    I can't believe I am asking this but can somebody remind me which key will >bring up the boot menu on these microservers please?

    I keep ending up at a grub prompt :-(

    Just to wrap this up there are questions about this all over the Internet
    but very few answers - and those there are don't work :-(

    I sat at the machine for over half an hour and tried Escape, Delete, F2,
    F9, F11. F10 does bring up the BIOS setup screen but no boot manager.

    Are you sure there is a boot manager at all? Traditional practice has been
    to go into BIOS and switch the boot order to what you want. Boot managers
    are a newfangled innovation.

    If I get stuck at that Grub prompt (it may be a shell prompt with user
    Grub) is there anything I can usefully do?

    It is possible to tell Grub what you want to boot, same commands as in
    grub.cfg files. You can also 'chainload' another bootloader (eg Windows).
    Be aware that grub refers to discs by its own notation, eg (hd0,0) for first partition on first disc, rather than Linuxisms like sda1.

    Theo

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Theo on Sat Aug 17 21:22:47 2024
    On 17/08/2024 in message <1al*-0dSz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote:

    Just to wrap this up there are questions about this all over the Internet >>but very few answers - and those there are don't work :-(

    I sat at the machine for over half an hour and tried Escape, Delete, F2, >>F9, F11. F10 does bring up the BIOS setup screen but no boot manager.

    Are you sure there is a boot manager at all? Traditional practice has been
    to go into BIOS and switch the boot order to what you want. Boot managers
    are a newfangled innovation.

    There is according to the Internet! However, if there really was somebody somewhere in all the places I have searched would have posted a reply. I suspect it arrived with later generations of the Microserver.


    If I get stuck at that Grub prompt (it may be a shell prompt with user >>Grub) is there anything I can usefully do?

    It is possible to tell Grub what you want to boot, same commands as in >grub.cfg files. You can also 'chainload' another bootloader (eg Windows).
    Be aware that grub refers to discs by its own notation, eg (hd0,0) for
    first
    partition on first disc, rather than Linuxisms like sda1.

    OK, some learning to do, thank you :-)

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  • From Jaimie Vandenbergh@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 18 09:33:08 2024
    On 17 Aug 2024 at 22:22:47 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    There is according to the Internet! However, if there really was somebody somewhere in all the places I have searched would have posted a reply. I suspect it arrived with later generations of the Microserver.

    It's F11 on my N36L/N40L/N54L. Maybe you're on an older BIOS? But I
    think mine always had it.

    Cheers - Jaimie
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    producing random digits is, of course, in a state
    of sin. -- John von Neumann

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Vandenbergh on Mon Aug 19 09:15:51 2024
    On 18/08/2024 in message <lidtekFtkkcU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie
    Vandenbergh wrote:

    On 17 Aug 2024 at 22:22:47 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    There is according to the Internet! However, if there really was somebody >>somewhere in all the places I have searched would have posted a reply. I >>suspect it arrived with later generations of the Microserver.

    It's F11 on my N36L/N40L/N54L. Maybe you're on an older BIOS? But I
    think mine always had it.

    Thanks but still no go sadly.

    I am on BIOS 041 dated 1/10/2103, the one that gets the NIC working on
    Windows.

    I even tried powering off, removing the power lead, holding the on/off
    switch down for 30 second, putting cable back in, hold down F11 then power
    on. I do wonder if the person posting that was taking the Mick though!

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    life.
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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Aug 19 14:42:16 2024
    On 19/08/2024 10:15, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 18/08/2024 in message <lidtekFtkkcU1@mid.individual.net> Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote:

    On 17 Aug 2024 at 22:22:47 BST, ""Jeff Gaines"" <jgnewsid@outlook.com>
    wrote:

    There is according to the Internet! However, if there really was
    somebody
    somewhere in all the places I have searched would have posted a reply. I >>> suspect it arrived with later generations of the Microserver.

    It's F11 on my N36L/N40L/N54L. Maybe you're on an older BIOS? But I
    think mine always had it.

    Thanks but still no go sadly.

    I am on BIOS 041 dated 1/10/2103, the one that gets the NIC working on

    That is an impressive time machine!


    Windows.

    I even tried powering off, removing the power lead, holding the on/off
    switch down for 30 second, putting cable back in, hold down F11 then
    power on. I do wonder if the person posting that was taking the Mick
    though!


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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to v9vi3o$2sn2d$1@dont-email.me on Mon Aug 19 13:50:26 2024
    On 19/08/2024 in message <v9vi3o$2sn2d$1@dont-email.me> SH wrote:

    I am on BIOS 041 dated 1/10/2103, the one that gets the NIC working on

    That is an impressive time machine!

    Somebody keeps moving the keys on this xomputer.

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    I was standing in the park wondering why Frisbees got bigger as they get closer.
    Then it hit me.

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