• Quick test of a web page, please

    From David@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 8 10:10:11 2025
    <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>

    This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
    to take you to your chosen option.

    I just get white background and no chevron (so no option).

    I am corresponding (slowly) with their help desk, but am wondering if this
    is a browser or OS specific issue.

    When I have encountered this in the past on other systems, it has often
    been one of two things:

    (1) In house use of a specific manufacturer and browser, e.g. Apple
    systems.

    (2) The web page relies on something in the "in house" environment such as
    a local file so it only works on the company's internal LAN.

    I have the same result on W10 using Chrome and Edge.
    I also can replicate on my Samsung Galaxy pad using the Samsung browser.

    Independent tests would be most helpful.

    TIA



    Dave R

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  • From David@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jun 8 10:46:29 2025
    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 10:10:11 +0000, David wrote:

    <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>

    This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the
    text to take you to your chosen option.

    I just get white background and no chevron (so no option).

    I am corresponding (slowly) with their help desk, but am wondering if
    this is a browser or OS specific issue.

    When I have encountered this in the past on other systems, it has often
    been one of two things:

    (1) In house use of a specific manufacturer and browser, e.g. Apple
    systems.

    (2) The web page relies on something in the "in house" environment such
    as a local file so it only works on the company's internal LAN.

    I have the same result on W10 using Chrome and Edge.
    I also can replicate on my Samsung Galaxy pad using the Samsung browser.

    Independent tests would be most helpful.

    Looks as though you have to allow all cookies for the site and an
    associated site.

    I have managed to find a browser which doesn't automatically block
    cookies, or had "block cookies" selected for the site.
    I haven't yet worked out how to allow all cookies again once they have
    been blocked.

    All very frustrating.

    Cheers



    Dave R



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  • From Graham J@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Jun 8 12:14:00 2025
    Andy Burns wrote:
    David wrote:

    <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>

    This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
    to take you to your chosen option.

    Only the header section has a black background, rest of page is white,
    no chevrons.  checked with firefox (my everyday browser which has ads/cookies blocked aggressively) and chrome (with no blocking).

    clicking on the text of what I would expect to be links does nothing, clicking slightly to the right (perhaps where the chevrons ought to
    appear) does follow the link.

    SeaMonkey: nothing like you describe.

    Chrome: much as described by Any Burns

    Firefox: again, much as described by Any Burns, but the chevron I tested
    does work and takes me to the expected page.

    In all cases, have to accept cookies (in 3 different places). Thin is
    on a W7 Pro PC with the most modern browser versions that will work on
    the PC.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jun 8 11:49:35 2025
    David wrote:

    <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>

    This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
    to take you to your chosen option.

    Only the header section has a black background, rest of page is white,
    no chevrons. checked with firefox (my everyday browser which has
    ads/cookies blocked aggressively) and chrome (with no blocking).

    clicking on the text of what I would expect to be links does nothing,
    clicking slightly to the right (perhaps where the chevrons ought to
    appear) does follow the link.

    ICBA to debug the html/css

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jun 8 15:00:49 2025
    David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
    Looks as though you have to allow all cookies for the site and an
    associated site.

    I have managed to find a browser which doesn't automatically block
    cookies, or had "block cookies" selected for the site.
    I haven't yet worked out how to allow all cookies again once they have
    been blocked.

    Often incognito mode can help with this - new incognito window, allow
    cookies for the site, do whatever you need to, close the window and throw
    away the cookies. Although if the browser blocks third party cookies as a
    rule you may need to turn them on, eg: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/third-party-cookies-firefox-tracking-protection
    (I don't know if that setting persists before normal and incognito mode)

    Theo

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sun Jun 8 13:28:12 2025
    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:49:35 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

    David wrote:

    <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>

    This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the
    text to take you to your chosen option.

    Only the header section has a black background, rest of page is white,
    no chevrons. checked with firefox (my everyday browser which has
    ads/cookies blocked aggressively) and chrome (with no blocking).

    clicking on the text of what I would expect to be links does nothing, clicking slightly to the right (perhaps where the chevrons ought to
    appear) does follow the link.

    ICBA to debug the html/css

    Thank you.
    Very useful.
    I hadn't considered that the chevron might be there but concealed.

    I have already fired off a grump-o-gram telling them they are very user aggressive.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 9 14:13:58 2025
    In article <mal5s3F9k92U1@mid.individual.net>, wibble@btinternet.com
    says...

    <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>

    This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
    to take you to your chosen option.

    I just get white background and no chevron (so no option).


    White background on Chrome, Edge and Firefox.
    Multiple HTML and CSS errors when run through a validator.

    Using the Development Tools Inspector (press F12 in most browsers) I see
    that:

    <main class="content-main">

    The class "content-main" (which is the area you want to be black) has "background-color" set to "var(--bs-body-bg)" which is assigned a value
    of #fff (white). So it's displaying as written/generated.

    Detailed debugging of generated code is something I regard as self-
    harm...

    I haven't spotted any chevrons. It could be useful to know exactly
    where to look.
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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Jun 9 17:02:19 2025
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    I haven't spotted any chevrons.  It could be useful to know exactly
    where to look.

    I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element, something like

    a.chevron-link-class::after { content = ">" }

    s/=/:

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Mon Jun 9 16:57:39 2025
    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    I haven't spotted any chevrons. It could be useful to know exactly
    where to look.

    I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element, something like

    a.chevron-link-class::after { content = ">" }

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  • From Philip Herlihy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 10 12:06:06 2025
    In article <maoejqF97j4U2@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
    says...

    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    I haven't spotted any chevrons. It could be useful to know exactly
    where to look.

    I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element, >something like

    a.chevron-link-class: after { content = ">" }

    That would do it, but it would show up in the "Computed Styles" tab on
    the development environment (- I think: it's been a while since I had
    any fluency with this!)

    CSS can be baffling if you're not up-to-date. I remember my puzzlement
    over a page I was trying to understand which had a "media query" in the
    code. For the uninitiated, a media query applies different formatting
    rules e.g. if the viewport width shrinks below a certain size.

    Anyway, if the OP specifies exactly where the chevrons are supposed to
    be, at some point this week I might get a chance to see if they are in
    the code at all (visible in the rendered display or not).

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Philip Herlihy on Wed Jun 11 17:17:26 2025
    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:06:06 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:

    In article <maoejqF97j4U2@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
    says...

    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    I haven't spotted any chevrons. It could be useful to know exactly
    where to look.

    I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element, >>something like

    a.chevron-link-class: after { content = ">" }

    That would do it, but it would show up in the "Computed Styles" tab on
    the development environment (- I think: it's been a while since I had
    any fluency with this!)

    CSS can be baffling if you're not up-to-date. I remember my puzzlement
    over a page I was trying to understand which had a "media query" in the
    code. For the uninitiated, a media query applies different formatting
    rules e.g. if the viewport width shrinks below a certain size.

    Anyway, if the OP specifies exactly where the chevrons are supposed to
    be, at some point this week I might get a chance to see if they are in
    the code at all (visible in the rendered display or not).

    --

    Just got back to this.
    Will try and post a screen shot.


    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From David@21:1/5 to David on Sun Jun 29 17:18:04 2025
    On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 17:17:26 +0000, David wrote:

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:06:06 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:

    In article <maoejqF97j4U2@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
    says...

    Philip Herlihy wrote:

    I haven't spotted any chevrons. It could be useful to know exactly
    where to look.

    I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element, >>>something like

    a.chevron-link-class: after { content = ">" }

    That would do it, but it would show up in the "Computed Styles" tab on
    the development environment (- I think: it's been a while since I had
    any fluency with this!)

    CSS can be baffling if you're not up-to-date. I remember my puzzlement
    over a page I was trying to understand which had a "media query" in the
    code. For the uninitiated, a media query applies different formatting
    rules e.g. if the viewport width shrinks below a certain size.

    Anyway, if the OP specifies exactly where the chevrons are supposed to
    be, at some point this week I might get a chance to see if they are in
    the code at all (visible in the rendered display or not).

    --

    Just got back to this.
    Will try and post a screen shot.

    Apologies for lack of progress, but I have had other urgent things to do.

    I will try to come back to this.

    Cheers



    Dave R



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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to David on Thu Jul 3 10:04:46 2025
    On 08/06/2025 11:10, David wrote:
    <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>

    This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
    to take you to your chosen option.

    I just get white background and no chevron (so no option).

    I am corresponding (slowly) with their help desk, but am wondering if this
    is a browser or OS specific issue.

    When I have encountered this in the past on other systems, it has often
    been one of two things:

    (1) In house use of a specific manufacturer and browser, e.g. Apple
    systems.

    (2) The web page relies on something in the "in house" environment such as
    a local file so it only works on the company's internal LAN.

    I have the same result on W10 using Chrome and Edge.
    I also can replicate on my Samsung Galaxy pad using the Samsung browser.

    Independent tests would be most helpful.

    TIA

    The chevrons show up in Firefox if you allow cookies.



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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to wasbit on Thu Jul 3 10:39:00 2025
    wasbit wrote:

    The chevrons show up in Firefox if you allow cookies.

    Allowing approx 400 cookies seems a high price to pay?

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